Al's Insights – Sun 26 Feb, 2012

Okay Ladies and Gentlemen, what do you think of this?

Cancelled  flight from Atlanta to Houston AW –  This is frightening

I, Gene  Hackemack, received this email from my good friend Tedd  Petruna, a diver at the NBL facility [Neutral Buoyancy  Lab], at NASA Houston, whom I used to work with.

Tedd happened to be on this same Flt. 297, Atlanta to  Houston.

In my opinion, the Muslims are all  getting very brave now… read Tedd’s story  below.

PS: Can you imagine, our own news media  now are so politically correct that they are afraid to  report that these were all Muslims…. unbelievable. Thank  God for people like Tedd Petruna.

“One week  ago, I went to Ohio on business and to see my  father…. On Tuesday,  the 17th, I returned  home.

If  you read the papers the 18th you may have seen a blurb  where a Air Tran  flight was cancelled from Atlanta to Houston due to a man  who refused to get off of his cell phone before  takeoff.
It was on  Fox.

This was NOT what happened.

I was in  1st class coming home. 11 Muslim men got on the  plane in full attire. 2 sat in 1st class and the rest  peppered themselves throughout the plane all the way to  the back. As the plane taxied to the runway the  stewardesses gave the safety spiel we are all so familiar  with. At that time, one of the men got on his cell and  called one of his companions in the back and proceeded to  talk on the phone in Arabic very loudly and very  aggressively.

This  took the 1st stewardess out of the picture for she  repeatedly told the man that cell phones were not  permitted at the time. He ignored her as if she was not  there.

The 2nd man who answered the phone did the  same and this took out the 2nd stewardess. In the back of  the plane at this time, 2 younger Muslims, one in the  back, isle, and one in front of him, window, began to show  footage of a porno they had taped the night before, and  were very loud about it. Now – they are only
permitted  to do this prior to Jihad. If a Muslim man goes into a  strip club, he has to view the woman via mirror with his  back to her…. (don’t ask me..I don’t make the rules, but  I’ve studied).

The 3rd  stewardess informed them that they were not to have  electronic devices on at this time. To which one of the  men said “shut up infidel dog!” She went to take the  camcorder and he began to scream in her face in Arabic. At  that exact moment, all 11 of them got up and started to  walk the cabin.

This is where I had had enough! I  got up and started to the back where I heard a voice  behind me from another Texan twice my size say “I got your  back.” I grabbed the man who had been on the phone by the  arm and said “you WILL go sit down or you Will be thrown  from this plane!” As I “led” him around me to take his  seat, the fellow Texan grabbed him by the back of his neck  and his waist and headed out with him…. I then grabbed  the 2nd man and said, “You WILL do the same!” He protested  but adrenaline was flowing now and he was going to  go….

As I escorted him forward the plane doors  open and 3 TSA agents and 4 police officers entered. Me  and my new Texan friend were told to cease and desist for  they had this under  control….

I was happy  to oblige actually. There was some commotion in the back,  but within moments, all 11 were escorted off the plane.  They then unloaded their luggage.

We talked about  the occurrence and were in disbelief that it had happened,  when suddenly, the door open again and in walked all 11!!  Stone faced, eyes front and robotic (the only way I can  describe it). The stewardess from the back had been in  tears and when she saw this, she was having NONE of it!  Being that I was up front, I heard and saw the whole  ordeal.

She told the TSA  agent there was NO WAY she was staying on the plane with  these men. The agent told her they had searched them and  were going to go through their luggage with a fine tooth  comb and that they were allowed to proceed to Houston. The  captain and co-captain came out and told the agent
“we  and our crew will not fly this plane!” After a word or  two, the entire crew, luggage in tow, left the plane. 5  minutes later, the cabin door opened again and a whole new  crew walked on.

Again…. this is where I had had  enough!!! I got up and asked “What the hell is going  on!?!?” I was told to take my seat. They were sorry for  the delay and I would be home shortly. I said “I’m getting  off this plane”. The stewardess sternly told me that she  could not allow me to get off. (now I’m mad!) I said “I am  a grown man who bought this ticket, who’s time is mine  with a family at home and I am going through that door, or  I’m going through that door with you under my arm!! But I  am going through that door!!” And I heard a voice behind  me say “so am I”. Then everyone behind us started to get  up and say the same.

Within 2 minutes, I was  walking off that plane where I was met with more agents  who asked me to write a statement. I had 5 hours to kill  at this point so why the hell not. Due to the amount of  people who got off that flight, it was canceled. I was  supposed to be in Houston at 6 pm. I got here at 12:30  am.

Look up the date. Flight 297 Atlanta to  Houston. If this wasn’t a dry run, I don’t know what one  is. The terrorists wanted to see how TSA would handle it,  how the crew would handle it, and how the passengers would  handle it.

I’m telling this to you because I want  you to know. The threat is real. I saw it with my own  eyes.”

– Tedd  Petruna

I just received this from a good friend.

It needs to be circulated!


Big Al


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Comments:
  1. On February 26, 2012 at 10:16 am,
    Larrry says:

    Al, it is becoming more apparent all the time that these kind of activities are be coming more common place all the time. Without responce from the federal authorities regarding this incident and substantial warnings to look out for these activites, what are average Amercans expected to do. This is another incidence of governmenets un willingness to do the right thing. Who will lead?

    • On February 26, 2012 at 10:47 am,
      Jerry O^OTB says:

      Larry, glad you brought that up…….I think the leader of our country, which is the
      Pres. should be more active here….but, maybe he was doing that in January when
      he signed the new bill, that said he could arrest anyone at anytime, without a trial,
      etc….you get the point…but, then again, why were these eleven (11) not arrested
      were they american,which would not make a difference, or was the new bill, just
      against americans….

      • On February 26, 2012 at 3:28 pm,
        Big Al says:

        HI Jerry,

        I am getting more and more disappointed with the President.

        Suggest you might read this: http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-plays-race-card-calls-on-churches-to-support-campaign.html

        Big All

        • On February 27, 2012 at 5:58 am,
          Jerry O^OTB says:

          Just listen to the post…..Afro-Americans for Obama..
          this may back fire on him….I have several reasons,
          but , I will wait to see if anyone else chimes in on this issue…
          Great post…..I SEE YOU ARE GOING TO PRISONPLANET FOR SOME
          INFO…ALEX JONES….I get some of my radical*different) ideas from Alex…
          or is it just info. for thought..?
          As Always…..OUT OF THE BOX….

          • On February 27, 2012 at 9:44 am,
            Big Al says:

            Morning In the Box,

            I think it shows a bit of desperation and it could very well back fire on him.

            Big Al

    • On February 26, 2012 at 3:27 pm,
      Big Al says:

      Larry,

      I found this article, assuming it to be true, to be terrifying.

      Yes, who is going to lead?

      Big Al

  2. On February 26, 2012 at 10:25 am,
    Pauline says:

    Perhaps this was a internal test, perhaps security is testing itself. I can always hope.

    What is average American supposed to do!?

    STAND UP. SPEAK OUT. KEEP READING. KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN. SEEK TRUTH. STOP BEING A LEMMING. STAND UP. SPEAK OUT!!

    • On February 26, 2012 at 1:00 pm,
      Marc says:

      Pauline,
      Absolutely!! Now let’s figure out how to get the “American Idolers” and “Two and a half meners” and other network TV lunies off their duffs and do the same thing as advanced-thinking folks of this website do…..me included, I think? :)
      All the best,
      Marc

      • On February 26, 2012 at 3:30 pm,
        Big Al says:

        Thanks Marc.

        Yeh, what the hell is going on!

        Big Al

    • On February 26, 2012 at 3:29 pm,
      Big Al says:

      HI Pauline,

      I really appreciate your words.

      I have to wonder if this was an internal test. Hard to say. But, I will say that I am getting more and more concerned.

      Best to you,

      Big Al

  3. On February 26, 2012 at 10:27 am,
    Jerry O^OTB says:

    THERE YOU HAVE IT …WOULD APPEAR THERE ARE MUSLUMS STILL TRYING TO CAUSE
    POTENTIAL PROBLEMS…
    NOW IF ANY OTHER NATIONALITY WOULD DO THE SAME,,,,TSA, WOULD HAVE THEM
    IN LOCK UP….

    • On February 26, 2012 at 10:37 am,
      Jerry O^OTB says:

      I know there are some nice people with muslem faith, and there are some trouble makers
      and I do not want to case a wide net….and include all, so, I will say there are some
      bad apples, just like any other faith…..so this is my disclaimer…..

      • On February 26, 2012 at 11:55 am,
        Jerry O^OTB says:

        error, case….cast…

        • On February 26, 2012 at 6:01 pm,
          Big Al says:

          I will say, Mr. In the Box that by not coming out and forcefully condemning the actions of the crazies, they certainly have painted themselves in a corner.

          Big Al

          • On February 27, 2012 at 6:07 am,
            Jerry O^OTB says:

            I AGREE,Al,

      • On February 26, 2012 at 3:15 pm,
        CFS says:

        I have yet to meet one (ONE!) I would trust, the more devout the less I would trust them!
        They do not have the same set of moral values. I’m sorry, but that is a fact.

        • On February 26, 2012 at 3:31 pm,
          Big Al says:

          Hi cfs and Mr. In the Box,

          Pretty hard to disagree with your thoughts.

          Big Al

          • On February 26, 2012 at 4:51 pm,
            CFS says:

            On the other hand, I did hire two Iranians a few years after the Shah was deposed.
            He was clean shaven, english educated. She was a daughter of an iranian embassy staff, who dyd not want to go back to Iran. Either od both could have been muslim, I never asked, and don’t know. I would trust either of them. They were both melting into american society.

  4. On February 26, 2012 at 10:49 am,
    skii says:

    This is unbelievable. The terrorists don’t *have* to do anything except scare people–the gov’t will take care of the rest. The country is being destroyed from the inside by things like NDAA–terrorist events are mostly non-existent–they’re totally unnecessary..the terrorists are winning by virtue of steps the gov is taking to “protect” everyone. In the end, it is up to everyone to protect themselves, but every time people stand up and want the gov to “do something”. Well now sexual harassment at airports is commonplace. mission accomplished. everyone is guilty until proven innocent. So much for “land of the free”.

  5. On February 26, 2012 at 11:23 am,
    Marc says:

    Wooooooooooo, nelly! Just a minute here. Although very disturbing, this is just an incident that got some media attention by highly motivated individuals (and rightly so). However, the question we have to answer is: What was the exact nature and INTENT of these actions!? In other words, what was their motivations to create such an obvious disruptions of affairs on a commercial aircraft? I REALLY don’t know and neither does anyone in this forum. All this article does is create strong emotions and conjecture with no relative facts to back anything up of real importance. A dry run maybe? But why such an obvious method (aircraft) already deployed by terrorists on 9/11. Doesn’t make any sense to me. Maybe just a bunch of a_______of middle eastern descent creating havoc. Or maybe a certain group of individuals with a much darker-devious plot to execute? My final word would be that if the government is smart and proactive they will find the REAL truth behind this and not become indifferent to it in the days and months ahead. That’s their job. Their other job is to become indifferent to the US dollar and inflate the hell out of it in lieu of taxing us to death to keep them from getting re-elected. Wait a minute! I expect these bozos to be proactive and get down to the real truth of these guys bizarre and potentially dangerous actions? Who am I kidding!!!
    Marc

    • On February 26, 2012 at 12:00 pm,
      Marc says:

      Big Al,
      FYI, please go to your gmail to check out what I wrote to Al Lewis regarding “O Captain, My Captain” article he wrote. Hope it meets with your approval.
      All the best,
      Marc

      • On February 26, 2012 at 3:34 pm,
        Big Al says:

        Thanks Marc,

        Wisdom relating from a potentially terrifying situation.

        Best,

        Big Al

  6. On February 26, 2012 at 12:08 pm,
    Tex says:

    My favorite part of the story is what state the the ‘good guys’ came from. The author clearly knows where true heroes reside…..better go get Silver out for our afternoon ride! Now where did I put my silver bullets?

    • On February 26, 2012 at 3:35 pm,
      Big Al says:

      Hey Tex,

      You guys down there have always stood your ground and I truly respect that!

      Big Al

  7. On February 26, 2012 at 1:04 pm,
    Dennis Brophy says:

    After reading your story I went to check out the story to see if it were true and did mywebsearch engine under `TSA air tran flight from Atlanta to Houston 18th` and got many links all of them pretty much saying the same thing. Was this fact or fiction? And coming to http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php%3D1429147%26sid%3Da8cf0712a0e2eaedc0dc3b… Now this link message was the same that Al got sent to him. Now in link http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/3312 has at date of Dec. 3, 2009. So do a mywebsearch for yourselves. Check to see if what you hear can be confirmed. Look who we have had on this site just recently a wild eye`d liberal to flank us and bog us down and mess with our minds. Now this could be Big Brother too, to see how we would react…

    • On February 26, 2012 at 1:21 pm,
      Dennis Brophy says:

      Its amazing to see how this war crap can move us like cattle. Obama, like GW Bush wanted war to have total control over everything and everybody like what happened in Washington DC aimed at toward the Congress to stampede them into signing that Patriot Act without most if not all from having had the time to read what they signed. Was this a ploy done to scare the sheep or what. I wouldn`t put it past our noble leaders to do just that to all of the American people anytime they wanted to.

      • On February 26, 2012 at 3:20 pm,
        John W. Robertson says:

        “I wouldn’t put it past our noble leaders…”

        Neither would I Dennis. It’s so brazen that it sounds like game theory in action.

        • On February 26, 2012 at 6:09 pm,
          Big Al says:

          Dennis,

          Again, you make a very good point.

          Big Al

      • On February 26, 2012 at 3:38 pm,
        Big Al says:

        HI Dennis,

        Interesting thought.

        We live in really truly bizarre times!

        Big Al

    • On February 27, 2012 at 9:48 am,
      Big Al says:

      Pretty interesting point Dennis.

      Getting really interesting isn’t it!

      Big Al

  8. On February 26, 2012 at 3:17 pm,
    John W. Robertson says:

    I’m a real airplane buff, and I always keep my camera in the seatback pocket ready to snap photos of the ocean or desert…but there’s another reason too. This is not the first time I’ve heard of this kind of incident, although this one was far more brazen than any I’ve heard of. I can guarantee you the entire thing will be videotaped if I’m on the plane. I wouldn’t tell anyone I have it until I copied the video to computer, and then went to two, competing news stations with the video, because unfortunately, it does seem like these things are being kept from the news. You’ll probably never need it, but keep that cell phone with the 8 megapixel video camera ready, just in case.

    • On February 26, 2012 at 3:37 pm,
      Big Al says:

      Great idea John W,

      Big Al

      • On February 26, 2012 at 4:18 pm,
        Dennis Brophy says:

        Al, I enjoyed Brent Cook his talk about the ATM and having Gold come out of the machine after we either used our debit bank cards, or our standard of money to then get a cash card to get the Au. Also Simon Mikhailovich`s comments towards the end of his message about the coming crash. And of course really liked Roger Wiegand on how to trade courses, I need more understanding of what you guys know about trading. My brother Bill he`s about 20 years older than me still does wall street says mining stocks are the best, he buys short. And he`s always traveling so he`s never around to talk. So if you have some books on the subject, tell me, I want to learn more. My other brother, he made real good money on the stock exchange too, but he`s difficult to reach too.

        • On February 26, 2012 at 6:07 pm,
          Big Al says:

          Hi Dennis,

          Unfortunately, I am somewhat self-taught re: the mining industry. I do have a BSc in econ. and an MBA in Finance and International Trade.

          I read all of our regular guests’ newsletters and I am pretty up to speed on economic conditions on both a domestic and international basis.

          I will think of some books to suggest.

          Best,

          Big Al

          P.S. Call Marshall Berol of the Encompass Fund and chat with him. You can reach Marshall at 415-956-5566.

          • On February 27, 2012 at 1:36 am,
            Dennis Brophy says:

            Thanks Al, I`ll have to give him a call, thank you. I`m too am self taught in mining/refining, use of chemicals by doing experiments, and reading books. The prospecting since my early twenty`s. In 1983 found gold in a hard rock deposit, the vein was quite massive, the gold in it was so much in it. Quite visible to the naked eye. Green igneous rock like California Jade, it was beautiful. Also found another deposit of silverly white metal in what looked like an alluvial type formation, it was buried down further in green rock too. I had it tested and it had all the pt-group-metals in it, but mosty Iridium. The metal was very chemical resistant even aqua regia couldn`t touch it. Probably had were insoluble blacks, which needed to be fused with either Na or Ba peroxide, to free the metal. The material I`m working on now is mostly Fe and a combination of Au,Ag,Pd,Pt,Rh its been very hard to get a handle, being so insoluble it took me better than ten years to find an acid that would work on it. I figured it had to have been locked up with C, hence the use of an organic acid, coupled with an inorganic acid like H2SO4, using a proper precipitant was equally hard to find that would free up the precious metals using stabilized sodium borohydride with NaOH is the best method to obtain the best product.

  9. On February 26, 2012 at 4:38 pm,
    benb says:

    Maybe Im the slow one but I dont believe it happened.
    I would think all 11 would have gone directly to guantonimo or the like not put back on the plane.
    Also why on earth do it in the first place? Without saying too much I can come up with a few ways to totally shut down cities, and as guenius is not required to get ideas and they are not done makes it hard for me to even believe organized terrorist exist. Maybe Im crazy but I dont believe it, to easy to come up with other stuff to chance loseing men like this if I am a terrorist. Nope lots of reasons this is not true, hard to find one that makes it believable for me.

    • On February 26, 2012 at 6:08 pm,
      Big Al says:

      HI benb,

      I agree with much of what you say, but it is kind of hard to believe that the incident did not happen.

      Big Al

  10. On February 26, 2012 at 7:50 pm,
    Bobby says:

    Hi everyone, 2 things about todays blog.
    1. you might want to read the account of flight 297 which happened in 2009 on Snopes:
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/flight297.asp
    2. Although Alex Jones (info-wars/prison-planet) has some interesting guests, he is even more of a conspirist than I am. Talk about being way out there!

    • On February 27, 2012 at 9:52 am,
      Big Al says:

      Yep, that is pretty much my feeling.

      Big Al

  11. On February 26, 2012 at 11:04 pm,
    Bentnail says:

    Jesus warned repeatedly to NOT BE DECEIVED in the last days. Personally, I am VERY careful when it comes to the information that I take in. Logic tells me that if there is great deception as Christ said, then not everything will be as it seems. The bible also says that most of the world will fall for the deception (even the very elect if that were possible). That tells me that if the majority of the worldbelieves the very same thing (especially if it falls in line with what the mainstream media spews out of its mouth) then there is a pretty good chance that it could be a lie (ie. Y2K Computer Bug). Satan is not stupid — he always tells us what he wants us to believe — not the truth (ie. “eat the fruit and you shall be as God”).

    • On February 27, 2012 at 2:55 am,
      Dennis Brophy says:

      Bentnail, Hi the Y2K bug must be a little lake in coming its 2012. But along came computers so came software with back-doors put in place by their designers. You could wonder what came with windows programs, but one may not know. But Bill Gates has done rather well for himself, but not by himself. Do you know of the pirates of silcon valley made their money by stealing information. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.(1st Corinthians 2:14). Lucky my friend in my book The Bible Satan looses read the last chapter. After the resurrection Satan lost his lease on earth that he got from the 1st Adam. The church doesn`t seem to see that to well. We have authority in this earth, Satan has none, except misinformation given to all to hear. Satan isn`t anointed anymore he didn`t know about Jesus would have sin put upon Him; Satan took Jesus to hell, oops, Satan was took someone to hell who hadn`t sinned, that was a mistake he will have for an eternity. So you see Satan like the natural man makes mistakes, because of no anointing. The word `Christian` means the anointed one. In Mark 16:17-20 gives us tools of the trade,`Authority` to use His name that`s Jesus to the world, not anybody else. Oh ya as some cursed crowd would say, like those Scriptures were added, well in the Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaitic they say are the oldest Gk. manuscripts well of the period of 325 and 350 AD yes, But the `Peshito` MSS of Syriac language its date was of 150 AD, or the Latin version the Vetus Itala(2nd cent.) are extant and many other texts that still exist today. So my friend we have authority, no turning back.

    • On February 27, 2012 at 6:24 am,
      Jerry O^OTB says:

      Bentnail….they have already fell…..
      what is a fact, gold is headed higher, inflation is real, and
      everything else is just noise….but, noise affects the price.
      Great info….oh, the devil is stupid,you know where he winds up…
      I think Al, will be ok, with using the word “stupid” in this case…
      glad to hear from you..”.ben”…a long time…
      respectfully…..Jerryootb

  12. On February 27, 2012 at 4:07 am,
    missivedutexas says:

    I don`t know why anyone would believe this was anything else but a false flag attempt by government rog agents. If you ever try this as a single individual, you will be thrown out and be put on the no fly list for life. Only government goons are allowed to do this and get a WHOLE new flying crew to get them going.

    Scanners at the airport after underwear bomber ? Ya right, the guy was let in by a government agent of an unknown agency.

    Wake up people, your own government seeks to incrementaly enslave E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E

    Undersecretary of State Patrick Kennedy Admits Unnamed US Intelligence Agency Got Underwear Bomber On Flight 253

    (see this clip on youtube)

    • On February 27, 2012 at 9:56 am,
      Big Al says:

      You make a very interesting point!

      Big Al

  13. On February 27, 2012 at 4:57 am,
    blimp says:

    http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/what-happened-on-flight-297/

    Looks like this story is an “urban legend”…

    • On February 27, 2012 at 5:40 am,
      Tex says:

      NAW….how could that be? Texans telling tall tales?

      • On February 27, 2012 at 9:59 am,
        Big Al says:

        Yep Tex, that is simply an unheard of action!

        Big Al

  14. On February 27, 2012 at 6:28 am,
    Big Al says:

    I haven’t seen the inside of an airplane in several years. I use to fly often but after 9/11 I decreased my flying and now drive if I have to get somewhere, and guess what? It takes just as much time driving sometimes than flying.

    • On February 27, 2012 at 9:58 am,
      Big Al says:

      You know, my friend, in many cases you are absolutely correct about the time issue.

      I personally still really enjoy flying. No cell phones; fairly comfortable if you get the right seat; and usually pretty polite people.

      Big Al

  15. On February 27, 2012 at 8:21 am,
    Clay says:

    Wyoming has the right idea. Build their own military, a well run militia, consider gold and silver to be legal tender, initiate a draft and purchase fighter planes and an Aircraft carrier. All this just in case the federal government of North America collapses and dies.

    http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/wyoming-house-advances-doomsday-bill/article_af6e1b2b-0ca4-553f-85e9-92c0f58c00bd.html

    Perhaps David Brinn has it right in the Future, “The Postman”. I guess I would be one of the Rogues in such case.

  16. On February 27, 2012 at 11:24 am,
    Stephen says:

    The following was taking from http://www.insideairtran.com/?p=2200

    AirTran 297- Anatomy of an Urban Legend Posted on 04 December 2009

    BREAKING NEWS UPDATE

    After conducting additional research into this situation, we have verified, according to flight manifests (legally binding documents) that the individual that allegedly created a first-hand account of events on-board AirTran Airways flight 297, a Theodore Petruna, was never actually on-board the flight.

    According to all available records, Mr. Petruna’s trip originated from Akron-Canton, Ohio (CAK) on AirTran flight 205. This flight arrived at the gate in Atlanta at 5:06 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. Flight 297, the flight which Mr. Petruna allegedly wrote a first-hand account of, originally pushed back from its gate in Atlanta at 4:40 p.m. EST, a full 26 minutes before flight 205 arrived at the gate in Atlanta making this flight connection impossible.

    While Mr. Petruna was originally scheduled to begin his journey on AirTran flight 202 from CAK and connect to flight 297 in Atlanta he did not make that original flight.

    On November 17, 2009, AirTran flight 297 was scheduled to travel from Atlanta to Houston-Hobby. During taxi a passenger was non-compliant with Crew Members, using a cell phone and taking pictures. The flight taxied back to the gate and the passenger, who did not speak English, and his companion acting as his interpreter were asked to de-plane. They were met by customer service personnel and TSA.

    The passengers were allowed to re-board and continued on the flight after speaking with AirTran and TSA representatives. The flight was delayed by more than two hours.

    Since the flight and initial media reports, several blogs and Internet sites have recounted the incident as portrayed by a passenger originally scheduled for the flight. Below is that passenger’s account (unedited in any way including spelling and grammar), as reported on several blogs. Highlighted between the passenger’s account, are the factually accurate circumstances surrounding this incident.

    We bring this to your attention in order to dispel myths that are beginning to make the rounds in chat rooms, blogs and conspiracy theorists’ Web sites.
    —————————————————————————————————

    “I was in first class coming home. Eleven muslim men got on the plane in full attire. Two sat in first class and the rest peppered themselves throughout the plane all the way to the back.”

    -The full party was 13 individuals. Their religion is not known to anyone at AirTran. The individuals in this party proceeded to their seats throughout the aircraft and were dressed like any other passenger.

    “As the plane taxied to the runway, the stewardesses gave the safety spiel we are all so familiar with. At that time, one of the men got on his cell and called one of his companions in the back and proceeded to talk on the phone in Arabic very loudly and very aggressively. This took the first stewardess out of the picture for she repeatedly told the man that cell phones were not permitted at the time. He ignored her as if she wasn’t there.”

    - There have been no reports of any individual phoning any other individual on the flight. Furthermore it would be extremely difficult to know who someone is calling. If they are calling someone in the back of the plane, the person listening in on this conversation would not be able to hear the person in the back of the plane nor know where the call was going to.

    “The second man who answered the phone did the same and this took out the second stewardess. In the back of the plane at this time, 2 younger muslims, one in the back aisle, and one in front of him, window, began to show footage of a porno they had taped the night before, and were very loud about it.”

    - It would be impossible to know what people were allegedly watching or whom they were speaking with in the back of the plane from Business Class. Furthermore, how would anyone know what was on this alleged videotape or when it was made?

    “Now, they are only permitted to do this prior to Jihad. If a Muslim man goes into a strip club, he has to view the woman via mirror with his back to her (don’t ask me, I don’t make the rules, but I’ve studied). The third stewardess informed them that they were not to have electronic devices on at this time. To which one of the men said, “Shut up, infidel dog!” She went to take the camcorder and he began to scream in her face in Arabic.”

    - While the flight attendants did ask an individual to discontinue the use of portable electronic devices, there are no reports of screaming or shouting insults to our Crew Members.

    “At that exact moment, all 11 of them got up and started to walk to the cabin. This is where I had had enough! I got up and started to the back where I heard a voice behind me from another Texan twice my size say, “I got your back.” I grabbed the man who had been on the phone by the arm and said, “you WILL go sit down or you Will be thrown from this plane!””

    - There are no reports of any passenger standing up in a threatening manner. At NO time was there any physical altercation between passengers. Upon returning to the gate, the individual on the phone and his party were asked to de-plane and did so in full compliance of Crew Members’ instructions.

    “As I led him around me to take his seat, the fellow Texan grabbed him by the back of his neck and his waist and headed out with him. I then grabbed the second man and said, “You WILL do the same!””

    - This is simply untrue. At NO time was there any physical altercation between passengers.

    “He protested but adrenaline was flowing now and he was going to go. As I escorted him forward, the plane doors open and 3 TSA agents and 4 police officers entered.”

    - At no time did any law enforcement or Transportation Security Administration (TSA) official enter the aircraft. Two TSA inspectors came to the gate to assess the situation and spoke with the individual involved and his party.

    “Me and my new Texan friend were told to cease and desist for they had this under control. I was happy to oblige actually. There was some commotion in the back, but within moments, all 11 were escorted off the plane. They then unloaded their luggage.”

    - The entire party complied fully with Crew Members’ instructions to exit the aircraft in order to ascertain the situation. Their bags were not removed at any time.

    “We talked about the occurrence and were in disbelief that it had happened, when suddenly, the door opened again and on walked all eleven!!”

    - After determining none of the individuals posed a security threat to the aircraft, the party was allowed to re-plane.

    “Stone faced, eyes front and robotic (the only way I can describe it). The stewardess from the back had been in tears and when she saw this, she was having NONE of it! Being that I was up front, I heard and saw the whole ordeal. She told the TSA agent there was NO WAY she was staying on the plane with these men”

    - There was no TSA or law enforcement agent ever on the plane.

    “The agent told her they had searched them and were going to go through their luggage with a fine tooth comb and that they were allowed to proceed to Houston.”

    - There was no TSA agent on the plane and there was no additional screening of anyone’s bags.

    “The captain and co-captain came out and told the agent, “we and our crew will not fly this plane!” After a word or two, the entire crew, luggage in tow, left the plane. Five minutes later, the cabin door opened again and a whole new crew walked on.”

    - The crews were swapped. This is a common occurrence in the aviation industry for any number of reasons. If a Crew Member cannot or will not continue a flight, we must replace that Crew Member.

    “Again, this is where I had had enough!! I got up and asked, “What the hell is going on?” I was told to take my seat. They were sorry for the delay and I would be home shortly. I said, “I’m getting off this plane.” The stewardess sternly told me that she could not allow me to get off.”

    “Now I’m mad! I said, “I am a grown man who bought this ticket, who’s time is mine with a family at home and I am going through that door, or I’m going through that door with you under my arm!! But I am going through that door!!””

    - At no time did any AirTran Crew Member refuse to allow a passenger off the plane. Had any passenger threatened a Crew Member, we would have taken appropriate action, including contacting law enforcement.

    “And I heard a voice behind me say, “So am I.” Then everyone behind us started to get up and say the same. Within 2 minutes, I was walking off that plane where I was met with more agents who asked me to write a statement. I had 5 hours to kill at this point so why the hell not. Due to the amount of people who got off that flight, it was cancelled. I was supposed to be in Houston at 6pm. I got here at 12:30am.”

    - After offering all passengers the opportunity to de-plane the aircraft, 12 individuals decided to not take this flight and opted to be re-booked. AirTran officials did not request any passenger to complete an official statement.

    - The flight was not cancelled and did continue to Houston-Hobby

    “Look up the date. Flight 297, Atlanta to Houston.”

    - The flight was not cancelled and did continue to Houston-Hobby

    “If this wasn’t a dry run, I don’t know what one is. They wanted to see how TSA would handle it, how the crew would handle it, and how the passengers would handle it.”
    “I’m telling this to you because I want you to know. The threat is real. I saw it with my own eyes.The flight was not cancelled and did continue to Houston-Hobby.”

    - The TSA determined this was a customer service issue. The party continued on the flight to Houston-Hobby that evening without further incident.

  17. On February 27, 2012 at 11:35 am,
    missivedutexas says:

    You guys are mixing flight 297 (your story Mr. Korelin) and 253 (Underwear bomber).

    253 is not an urban legend, and it was used to justify implementation of body scanners.

    Go hear the Kennedy congressional testimony, no urban legend there.

  18. On February 27, 2012 at 8:54 pm,
    Barry says:

    Could be theatre to justify more and more TSA and more xray scanners and more invasion of privacy.

  19. On February 28, 2012 at 2:01 pm,
    Dagen says:

    …as Bobby stated in her email above…..go to:
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/flight297.asp for the scoop.
    Whenever you hear stuff like this, always run it through the b.s. machine first.

  20. On February 28, 2012 at 6:22 pm,
    Vance says:

    Hi Al. Wanted to forward this from fact check about the people and incident
    http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/what-happened-on-flight-297/