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Big Al
October 14, 2013

I have been concerned for a long time now about the potential of social unrest resulting from our shakey economy and the lack of an attempt to correctly deal with what I believe could be a huge problem.

Click here to read about a situation that occurred over the weekend in Louisiana. (And it was not at a Saints or Tigers football game!)

 

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39 Comments
    Oct 14, 2013 14:31 AM

    This is just opportunistic human behavior and nothing new.. remember aftermath of Katrina where people looted Walmart and such?

      Oct 14, 2013 14:03 PM

      You are correct MustangDon but I still think that it is a harbinger of things to come. And, I say that with a lot of regret!

    cfs
    Oct 14, 2013 14:34 AM

    What should one expect from an education system no longer teaches morality.

    Perhaps that is why the US has the most prisoners on a per capita basis, in the world.
    Is the government oppressive or are the citizens immoral?

      Oct 14, 2013 14:04 PM

      Or cfs, is it a combination of both!

      But I do think that the root of the problem is the complete lack of morality.

      Oct 14, 2013 14:58 PM

      How can an immoral “education” system teach morality?

        Oct 14, 2013 14:56 PM

        And, there lies the rub!

    Oct 14, 2013 14:02 AM

    Without a doubt this is a harbinger of things to come. Those dummy’s that believe they scored free food may be in for a surprise when they try and use the EBT cards next month and they find that they have a negative balance on their cards. Yes, those folks are partying like its 1999 now. They just can’t see farther than the end of their nose.

      Oct 14, 2013 14:04 PM

      Yep!

    cfs
    Oct 14, 2013 14:31 AM

    This contrasts with a different era. Here are a couple of examples:
    During World War II, England suffered a lot of bombing, London shop windows were regularly blown out, but I never heard of looting from any store, even during a time when people were suffering from deprivation of food and clothing. Most would not dream of stealing.
    As a second example, in the Midwest, in the 60s and 70s, I never used to lock my car no matter where I parked when out shopping. Even with stuff on the back seat or a camera which could be seen though a window, simply because I KNEW it was safe. People would not steal. (Maybe that would not be true in Chicago or DC, but in small town America, it most certainly was.)
    The US has changed, and not for the better, and despite being a member of the ACLU, I blame this group and similar groups for destroying the Judeo-Christian ethic and similar teachings out of schools. (I remind folks who have not read earlier postings that while I am neither a Christian nor a Jew, I abhor actions to attack and destroy such teachings in education.) I, personally, to the best of my ability, live by the Golden Rule, which can easily be justified from philosophical considerations, as well as religious teachings, as an optimal way of life.

      Oct 14, 2013 14:06 PM

      You are a pretty bright guy as I have said before, cfs!

      Oct 14, 2013 14:42 PM

      And the ACLU is innocent then?

        Oct 14, 2013 14:44 PM

        Of what Bentnail?

          Oct 14, 2013 14:11 PM

          AL:

          That was in response to CFS’s post: “The US has changed, and not for the better, and despite being a member of the ACLU, I blame this group and similar groups for destroying the Judeo-Christian ethic…”

          It is bizarre that someone who belongs to the ACLU (an extremely anti-Christian organization) gives a hoot about schools destroying Judeo-Christian values – no disrespect to CFS, but his remark seems very ridiculous / insincere. If he is really concerned about Judeo-Christian ethic being attacked then maybe he should consider leaving the ACLU – he cannot have his cake and eat it too.

    Oct 14, 2013 14:41 AM

    CFS I do remember when locking the house was not necessary etc. Those days are gone forever. We will not return to basic morality and honesty and integrity in our lifetimes. People no longer have honor in our society(yes, it exists but not as a general rule). Remember the Watts riots? People were asked why they were looting and stealing from stores. The was, Because it is Free. These answers came from people that most of the time did not steal. When the conditions are right, 90% of the spooge will decide to loot, steal and vandalize. And, they easily justify their actions in their mind. Very dangerous.

      Oct 14, 2013 14:13 PM

      Of course it is very dangerous.

      Wait until people are looking for basic necessities, like food!

    cfs
    Oct 14, 2013 14:14 AM

    Glen, One of my houses is in the Midwest. I live there mostly in the Spring and fall, when the weather is tolerable. When I am in residence, I still do not lock my doors for a couple of months at a time; as neither do either of my neighbors.
    In that particular house, I probably have in excess of $250K of artwork, but I don’t talk about it, it is just there for me to enjoy. (That actually is true for several of my houses.!
    My attitude may well change if/when I am ever robbed.
    I am currently in my house in California, and looking around here, in the living-room, it is somewhat scary to think that a Dali or a Picasso that I bought in Spain 40 to 50 years ago might actually be worth as much or more than the house! And although I don’t often go out shopping and leave the house unlocked, I sometimes do.

      Oct 14, 2013 14:14 PM

      I never looked at the Sanoma area as being particularly dangerous.

        cfs
        Oct 14, 2013 14:51 PM

        Although the area is changing slowly; some of my neighbors, being worried by the possibility of theft by Mexicans,. I have generally found them to be both honest and very hard-working…..just trying to improve their life by the sweat of their brow, just as most immigrants have over the decades coming to America.

          Oct 14, 2013 14:45 PM

          After spending four months in the “Desert” a couple of few ago, I would completely agree with you, CFS

      Oct 14, 2013 14:34 PM

      I never locked my San Clemente or Coronado homes when I lived in California, i also never spoke of the hoard of silver that I kept there. It actually shocked me when I gathered it together when I moved.

        Oct 14, 2013 14:46 PM

        And, how long ago was that?

          Oct 15, 2013 15:19 AM

          3 years

    Oct 14, 2013 14:45 PM

    CFS Thats a nice story. Where I live, we have to make sure that everything is put away at nite. If you leave something on the porch, like a pair of boots or brooms or mops, you are liable to wake up in the morning and your things will be gone. Laundry drying on the line is not safe. Nothing that is not tied down is safe. For the moment the problem is just petty theft so its not that big a deal. Just an inconvenience. No one where I live would ever recognize a Dali or a Picasso but most everyone around me would steal my cell phone.

      Oct 14, 2013 14:15 PM

      And that, Glen, is a real shame!

    cfs
    Oct 14, 2013 14:44 PM

    Glen, I am very lucky in that my three primary houses are all in neighborhoods that are totally safe, even though two are within walking distance of universities. (Purdue and University of East Anglia, Norwich, England.) The closest I have come to losing things is in Norwich, where a few years ago some persons or persons unknown tried to remove a marble statue I had brought home from Italy. That was concreted down and when they broke the legs off they left the pieces all behind. While it obviously destroyed its value, I had it restored and it still gives me as much pleasure to see it as when I first saw it.
    I guess I would not choose to live in a place where I had to worry; being retired 30 years, I can choose where I live or where I go.

      Oct 14, 2013 14:42 PM

      I actually live in a very safe place. We have no food stamps and no welfare. We have to expect petty theft. We also have a lot of door to door begging but they are polite. No where in the US will be safe once entitlements are stopped and the dollar is devalued. Nothing more dangerous than an angry group of spooge whose food stamps have just been turned off. Imagine if you were a second or third generation family who has come to expect and demand government support and the system dares to quit with the goody’s. You are going to rise up and take it out on the people you blame the problem on. Very dangerous.

        Oct 14, 2013 14:47 PM

        My sentiments exactly, Glen!

    Oct 14, 2013 14:52 PM

    Many folks are only sorry when and if they are caught. They either don’t care, until they are in danger of being exposed for their immorality, or they are blind to the fact that God sees all that we do.

      Oct 14, 2013 14:48 PM

      They are caught John and they don’t even know it!

      bb
      Oct 14, 2013 14:22 PM

      The way I understand this is people had some kind of card that normaly has a limit, the limit was removed.
      Most people in this position to be needing one of these cards are not going to understand, then there are those that have a hard time feeding themselves and their families so , what the heck they figure.

      My point is it might be easy to say they are immoral, maybe a person could try living on the street for awhile and then call people immoral.

      Anyway, empty store shelves is exactly a disruption that those with the resources should prepare for. Its actually pretty easy and really doesnt cost much for those with moderate resources.
      Remember tho, the neighbours might have kids and most neighbours have no clue and might be realiseing just as their kids are hungry.
      A few extra pounds of pasta? might be a thought.

      Out of the city might be better, out of the country might be an idea too.

        Oct 14, 2013 14:00 PM

        BB,

        It simply is a bad situation. Period and end of story!

    Oct 14, 2013 14:19 PM

    Oh those negroes….

      Oct 14, 2013 14:49 PM

      David D The problem with the negroes is something that whitey created. It is also a problem because whitey has learned to depend on government handouts as a group as well. Now, if you look at statistics you might say that negroes use government handouts more in a total percentage basis. But, whitey uses it just as much. The problem now is that we need to unwind the program. I argue that it cannot be done without civil unrest. We have them trained those darn government handout recievers don’t we? It is whitey’s fault. I blame it squarely where the fault lies. But, how can we unwind the welfare programs? Wow. We need a sociology expert on the panel. You cannot train groups of people to get off welfare when we train them that being on welfare is better than working. Its not possible without huge consequences. We gave them food stamps without limits. They can use them at Mcdonalds or anywhere they want to use them just like cash. Now, do you think you then take it away and then actually expect people to work for 7.25 per hour? Not possible. They will rise up and in fact, since these people are becoming the majority in our nation they are very dangerous. This whole scene is very scary and there is no way to find easy solutions. I am glad that I live in a third world country where the poor no that they are poor and they have no delusionary visions of grandeur that are backed up with guns and pitch forks. Sorry. If you are not preparing for Mad Max you are delusionary. This whole mess has an end date. I just do not know what it is.

      Oct 14, 2013 14:00 PM

      Huh?

        Oct 14, 2013 14:02 PM

        My huh was in reference to David D by the way.

    Oct 14, 2013 14:03 PM

    We have an issue in our nation and it is called entitlement. This type of thinking is pervasive and covers the entire nation. Now, the entitlement issue and thinking that scares me the most is the feeling by the black community that our nation owes them a satisfying life and in return we do not expect anything. It is just assumed that since slavery existed 150 years ago that there is a debt that needs to be repaid. It is just expected and demanded. This is a huge sociology problem in our country that I cannot pretend to solve or give suggestions on how to solve. But, it is eventually going to come to a head in our nation. And, we aren’t going to be able to solve the problem when our government all of a sudden decides to stop with the welfare and entitlement programs. Which we already cannot afford. I am very familiar with the way black folk think although I certainly am no expert. They feel that they should be supported by government to repay the fact that they have been dealt a bad hand. Period. It really isn’t very complicated. They are very emotional about this feeling. To the point of being dangerous. I wouldn’t worry about it that much except that our country is getting to the point where we need people to work for their beans. We can no longer afford to paper over our societal problems by just paying the problem off. Thats pretty much what we have been doing. If black family’s had to pay for their existance they would limit family size for example. They purposely have large family’s because have plenty of incentive to do so. Working is not an option for a many black folk. They make out much better by gaming the system. They are experts. We don’t dare make changes to the system for fear of being accused of being racist. Its a failed system and one that will lead to civil unrest at an unknown time in the future but certainly it will come. I have no suggestions but I do not want to be in town when the piper must be paid.

    Oct 14, 2013 14:45 PM

    I believe that people have become informed as to the vast immorality of those that pretend to lead nations and watch over us.
    The internet has given people the opportunity to independently be educated and gather information in a manner and speed in which has never been capable in all of history.
    The central banks are thieves and those that own them are psychopathic thieves and murderers on a global scale.
    Educated people aren’t being led around with one newspaper and radio program telling us what to think and do anymore.

      Oct 14, 2013 14:03 PM

      Matt, I agree, that its an idea from people on this site, and other gold/silver sites too, do think that most American`s don`t know what`s going on, when if fact many people know, but are powerless to do anything about it. Its an `elitist mentality` that seems to be present in most of us in thinking that only us few are in the know. General Joe Blow know its bad, real bad, and he`s powerless to do anything about it. We who have this `elitist mentality` who have bought gold/silver, I think, think we are some how superior, because we have bought these metals, yet many are without the purchasing power to obtain them for themselves, due to their sorry state of barely enough money to survive from day to day.

    Oct 14, 2013 14:04 PM

    No educated people are certainly not dependent on just one source anymore!