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The conventional markets could be bottoming and gold is still very range bound

August 7, 2014

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    Yamada at KWN………..says……..gold $1200-1400…..so, she is saying the same thing RANGE BOUND……………..

    Aug 07, 2014 07:14 PM

    GOLD can surprise US ALL !

    Aug 07, 2014 07:20 PM

    Doc I agree with you 100% on everything.
    If I can add I would just say that watching today’s action I noticed that on the move up from gold the miners refused to go with it. This is only read by a good trained eye and i have been watching my miners in my portfolio and there saying we don’t want to go up with you.

    Looking for that 80/83 region for gold/silver ratio..

      Aug 07, 2014 07:35 PM

      Part of me hopes you’re right. As I said a few months ago…
      On April 18, 2014 at 11:43 am,
      Matthew says:

      …I had more gold than silver in the middle of 2011; now I have far more silver than gold (about 70/30) and will sell more gold for silver if we see the GSR beyond 80.

        Matthew……….what is your guess on price….with a 80 to 1 ratio…….
        gold at 1550 and silver at 19

          Aug 07, 2014 07:42 PM

          Wow, that’s a pretty high ratio—-do you really think it’s possible?

            Aug 07, 2014 07:46 PM

            I might add that I do plan on purchasing some of the gold metal next week. Also, I started nibbling on some stocks today even though I planned on waiting until next week. Next week should be an interesting week. In fact the rest of the month should be interesting from a drifting month for the PMs. What’s very important is that the weekly bollinger bands will be narrowing considerable for the PMs and certain stocks. Something will then give.

            Richard…..Who are you asking…?….

            Aug 07, 2014 07:01 PM

            I share all of your thoughts as regards the ratio—-currently the charts don’t point to a ratio that high. Of course that could change. If the metals act like I think they will next week, I’m ready to take the plunge into the deep water. If the markets move against me technically I’ll come to the surface rapidly and get to shore as fast as I can swim. All the technicals are lining up and I believe the odds are that we break higher.

            Aug 07, 2014 07:05 PM

            Ditto to that question, DOC!?

            Richard thanks for the follow up………….and you to Matthew………..

          Aug 07, 2014 07:47 PM

          IF it happens (I don’t think it will), I would expect more like $1200 gold and $15 silver.

        Aug 07, 2014 07:16 PM

        I told you to leave the country that your ancestors stole. There is a flight leaving tomorrow. You are a hypocrite. Practice what you preach.

          Aug 07, 2014 07:06 PM

          PW,
          HUUHH??

            Aug 07, 2014 07:35 PM

            This funny Pileofwine is making a real fool of himself. LOL!

          Aug 07, 2014 07:31 PM

          You damn straight Johnny. ….

          There is no loyalty. Plenty of traitors though.
          That will change with nuclear warfare.

          Won’t even have to worry about the morgue.

          Geeks behind the computers will be no more.

          No flights, no shipping out……

          one word….FINITO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          Just gonna break my heart of stone.

          ( site moderator will show up and there goes my post) lol

          Well, I’m use to it. Johnny should post more often too.

            Aug 07, 2014 07:48 PM

            So, HH, you think this guy is right to hold people accountable, based on their ancestry/race/nationality, for the actions of a long-dead few?

            Aug 07, 2014 07:00 PM

            Matthew,

            Everyone is guilty until proven innocent.

            Raise your right hand.

            Did you sleep with that women. Heck no…..are you sure Bill. lol

            Welcome to the donkey love fest debate.

            GAME ON…

            Disclaimer: I’m not responsible for any omissions or negligent posts.

            Don’t point your finger…lol

            Aug 08, 2014 08:39 AM

            Welcome back HH, or if you’ve made an earlier return you seem to have made yourself scarce of late. Anyway I’m getting mighty confused by many of these posts. We’ve got this merchant Johnny Pollywine-come-lately making every pronouncement going except to condemn Israel, while taking the law into his own soiled hands to act judge and jury over the rest of us. But when such as PW castigates Miko Peled (the moderate Zionist who hangs his head in shame over Israel) the other’s got to be all-out deranged – a condition which I believe is now proving commonplace among many extreme Zionists.
            Old adage of Orwell that where lying becomes the norm speaking the truth becomes an act of treason!
            Simplest thing to say is that we’re all sinners, and that bad things have to happen to many of before the meek inherit the Earth, which notwithstanding all the End time talk they WILL come to do.
            Peace, Andrew

          Aug 08, 2014 08:34 AM

          jonny…..see my post under Gary Savage…down the page….answer please.

            Aug 08, 2014 08:20 AM

            Thanks brother Andrew.

            Looks like you have been running things around here…lol. all great commentary
            as usual. I popped my head in here a few times but its nice to be retired. ? Ha.

            Lately time has been of the essence, if you know what I mean. Got a few rings on
            my finger lol.

            Also, really wanted to stop by and say hi to you. Busted into conversations that are
            way over my head …just ain’t right. Only when the bustin is right I’ll do it. My ole sayin
            is………

            I’LL DO YA RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol ..knock over a few tables and I’m out of here

            Andrew, if you say its so in your commentaries. I couldn’t agree more. What do I know
            ………. I’m just a knucklehead. However, me and ole yellar are still tight and good friends.

            Anyway, nice to have you back Andrew ..lol STAY OUT OF TROUBLE.

            Stay away from me ..lol….. OR YOU MIGHT SEE A POP UP ON YOUR BROWSER.

            ACCESS DENIED !!!!!!!!!!!! lol

            Aug 08, 2014 08:45 AM

            Thanks HH, A

            Aug 08, 2014 08:47 AM

            Speaking of access denied HH I’m now blacklisted from Greg Hunter’s blog – an honour I now feel since he’s irrationally pro-Zion!

            Aug 08, 2014 08:58 AM

            Join the club Andrew….. ha ha

            Mr. Party Boy………

            Live everyday like its your last. Enjoy all your posts.

            Now off to find the next love fest. Got a few bones to pick.

      Aug 07, 2014 07:57 PM

      The miners are definitely not making a strong move upward but a lot of the mid tier and quality juniors are hanging in there. I see most of these continue to be very range bound.

      As for the 80+ gold/silver ratio that is very high!! I like the forward call however.

    Aug 07, 2014 07:06 PM

    In a market controlled by insiders who dictate prices through paper trading does any of these price movements really mean anything? I seriously doubt it. At best the price is only good for buying providing that one can take delivery. It very well could be that civilization as we know it must end before having the metals or even investing does investors any good at all.

    Aug 07, 2014 07:47 PM

    Steve,in Asia gold is money.
    It is the currency that many invest into / hold in bullion and/or jewellery forms so it is essential.
    In Europe/North America it is a speculation and that was designed and is supported by those that rule with fiat.
    The PTB may throw the fiat system into the bag and monetary metals have their place in the sun. We hope the PTB cease and desist but it is their show.

      Aug 08, 2014 08:27 AM

      Mathew,

      You gutless coward. You claim that Israel is built on stolen land suggesting that all Israelis leave. That is your message. You are too arrogant to respond to me. Confirms your British roots. Have you no shame? I say you should leave and go back to that miserable England from where your dirty drunken ancestors claim.

        Aug 08, 2014 08:52 AM

        You’re a pathetic little bully Johnny-come-lately. Soon you won’t have any place to hide. Bullies and cowards are one and the same, and you’re clearly engulfed by that unique terror now manifesting itself within extreme Zionism, and which, thank God, is being exposed to the world as never before.
        I’m sure another screaming fit will come my way, but which I’ll not dignify with a reply.

        Aug 08, 2014 08:33 AM

        First, J. Pally, I have made no claims here about Israel. Second, you are just guessing about my roots. And third, I am not too arrogant to respond to you, you are simply not worthy of a serious response.

        Aug 08, 2014 08:56 AM

        Hey now Johnny,

        Put your tongue back in your mouth. There is no reason on
        this board to be name calling. Stop and apologize or you
        will end up a whippin boy on here if not already.

        Go cool off !!!!!!!

      Aug 08, 2014 08:39 AM

      They may be running the show but not all things are theirs. My metal belongs to me only and as my property I have decided what I want for it if I do a trade at all. It is an out rage that some market rigging Bankster and his employees think they can dictate the price of my metal to me! It strikes me as an attempt to rip me off and that is not acceptable and I don’t give a damn what the so called laws are regarding metal trading. They were made by A holes that approve of ripping off investors, owners and producers. I say to hell with all of them!

    Aug 07, 2014 07:57 PM

    The general market is about to turn up soon so that will not help gold but the Russian situation could go on for a very long time as I can’t see a quick resolution and that will provide a floor for gold. Then there is war in Israel as well as Iraq.

      Aug 07, 2014 07:22 PM

      I disagree that the final move up for stocks will be bad for gold. As the Dow jumped 13% from the middle of August, 2007, to early Octobober, 2007, GDX surged 48% in the same two month span. This is an apple-to-apples comparison since that Dow top was a big cyclical peak (and the most recent one) just like the one we are witnessing now.

      Aug 08, 2014 08:59 AM

      The Israeli situation might be the most dangerous of them all as the Jews in general and Israelis in particular think they can do anything and get away with it. They attacked America many times and were rewarded for it. The Lavon affair, The attack on the USS Liberty, 911 plus all the financial stuff, covert ops and hijacking of the US government. Yes the Jewish community has been very bold and very criminal. I know some of you will oppose this statement but remember the laws concerning being an accessory to a crime. Through ethnic solidarity the Jews stand together with their criminal peers and thus share criminal responsibility. Jews think this will never be an issue because they are Jews and feel themselves to be above the law of god and man.
      They are of course mistaken but that does not restrain them one bit. Sooner or later they will transgress once too often and a great power like Russia,China or one of their allies will take military action to punish the Nation of Israel. It could be as simple as an EMP attack followed up by precision nuclear armed cruise missile attacks launched from submarines at night may be on the week end. I am sure some crafty strategist could come up with a battle plan to do a covert black nuke attack on Israel.

    Aug 07, 2014 07:46 PM

    It generally does move up sharply in August and September but this year it rallied quite early.

      Aug 07, 2014 07:04 PM

      The HUI is up 19% year to date. At its best, it was up 29%. This is modest for a year following a major bottom.
      In 2001, the HUI went up about 62%.
      2002: 130%
      2003: 79%
      2005: 30%
      2006: 30%
      2007: 24%
      2009: 70%
      2010: 38%

    Aug 07, 2014 07:15 PM

    Isn’t gold simply being influenced by 20,000 Russian soldiers and tanks on the Ukraine border?

      Aug 08, 2014 08:54 AM

      Plus Russia’s new sanctions Bob UK.

        Aug 08, 2014 08:10 AM

        Without them we’d probably already be retesting golds lows.

        …but meanwhile I’m outside on a cool winter’s night staring at an almost full moon.

        LOL…..I better go grab my tin foil hat.

          NYC
          Aug 08, 2014 08:37 AM

          that is funny LOL

    Aug 08, 2014 08:12 AM

    I remember each year at this time that mid August is the harbinger for the rest of the year for PMs. I don’t remember where I got that from but I think we could have a good fall.