Jeff Deist comments on government mandates in the area of inoculations.
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Exactly . . .
Please remember, your freedom stops where mine starts.
I come from a family of four kids, 55-60. All still alive, excellent health. We all had the measles, we all had chicken pox.
Your freedom stops where mine starts. Understand that and you won’t feel frustrated because people don’t see it your way.
If you get the vaccine you won’t have to worry if my kids have measles.
Oh but they do “worry about your kids giving their kids the measles.” To paraphrase Dr. Andrew Wakefield: with the usage of the MMR vaccine reaching all time highs, how is it that we are also seeing new outbreaks of Measles?”
Maybe these no nutrition, high calorie diets, throw in a few gmo’s, are breaking down america’s health. The human body has amazing resiliency if it’s in a proper state of health.
America was much healthier 50 years ago to deal with health issues. And there was even a day not much longer ago than that when all foods were organic. Now we pay a premium for them.
Vaccinations for MMR, chickenpox and other “childhood diseases” is absolutely silly. Everyone has their panties in a wad because of the “outbreaks” of measles in California – yet the likelyhood of any serious or lasting effects in this population is very nearly nil. On top of that, every time you inject your kids with vaccines, you are giving them a nice dose of mercury (thermerisol), which, strangely enough, is classivied as a “hazardous waste” by the EPA.
Yes, I know that federal law prohibits the vaccine mfgs from putting mercury in the vaccines, but the mfgs have proven that they just ignore the law, and the feds never prosecute them. They are all in bed together for the almighty dollar.
My wife is a long time ER, OR, OB nurse as well as a SANE (Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner) nurse yet she still understands that force = aggression and it is wrong.
Sacrificing individual rights “for the greater good” is what short-sited child-like socialists do to destroy civilized society. Where does this quest to eliminate the risks of living stop? “Progressive” do-gooders are authoritarians in reality but angels in their own minds.
Vaccine safety is anything but an open and shut case, but that is not the point either way! Do you own your body or is it the property of the government (which gets its authority from the unprincipled, manipulated and misinformed collective)?
If you believe absolutely in the benefit and protective value of vaccination, why does it matter what others do? Or don’t do? If you believe you need vaccination to be healthy and protected, then by all means vaccinate your child and yourself. Why should you even be concerned what your neighbor chooses to do for his child – if vaccination works? The idea of herd immunity is still based on the idea that in individual cases vaccines actually are protective.
If you think the government has the right to forcibly vaccinate people – for the good of society – what is to prevent them from forcibly sterilizing people, or forcibly euthanizing people, or forcibly implanting a tracking device – for the good of society? You make think those examples are extreme (although two-thirds have happened), but the principle is the same. You are allowing government to have ultimate authority over your body.
You’re right.
But the gooberment already takes a third or more of everything the average working stiff makes in some form of taxes (not including inflation) and the gooberment has wracked up unimaginable debt that the average person will eventually get stiffed with. The average working stiff is little more than a tax/debt serf.
If the average person tolerates this (plus all sorts of other things like the feel ups and porno scanners of the TSA) and keeps electing the same old political criminals over and over what won’t the average person let the gooberment do to them?
Vaccines don’t work, they are full of poisons, they cause quick deaths, autism, all kinds of autoimmune diseases, and severe allergies.
They would have to kill me first to get any vaccine in me.
Watch this presentation to learn about how bad vaccines are:
The “fact of the matter” as repeatedly stated by the hosts, whom I generally agree with, is that
A) vaccines are potentially toxic, and if you don’t think so check the v long list of side effects on the label, they don’t even deny it.
b) no serious studies are allowed to be published or even researched. However CDC’s own data that many doctors (eg DR Tenpenny) have spent decades highlighting as proof of manipulation and concealment of the serious side effects, and if anything prove that vaccines didn’t in fact relieve “society” of hardly any of the illnesses they claim to. Pir anything the industrial / capitalist system improved hygiene and nutritional levels in early 20th century to the point that these killer epidemics were wiped out.
C) Tissue from pigs,rats, monkey and other animals is used to filter viruses potency but end up leaving DNA traces within The vaccine, which ends up in our children’s body, leading to unknown consequences in coming generations.
D) a strong immune system is the key to fighting off illnesses; has been for millions of years and is driven by eating quality foods and exercising, emotional stability in the child/human. However modern medicine bypasses this ad med school but in Greek type Hypocrates, the granddaddy of the profession stated: let thy food be thy medicine and thy medicine be thy food. Said oath has been now almost forgotten- coincidence?
E) children getting hurt by vaccines in much larger numbers than press reports. Dig a little and you will learn of horror stories… Ask mothers of children with mental illnesses when their child started and many times they will tell you it was soon after the shots. Anyone think that Big pharma is sufficiently motivated to come forth, any less than big banks?
F) excessive use of drugs / vaccines simply makes us less resistant to viruses over time.
G) vaccination does NOT equal immunity…. If it did- no one would care less if my kids were not vaccinated. Hence: who is kidding who?
Thanks
L
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“Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. . .”
Bertrand Russell (1953)
Lee:
Very nice, concise summary, a good Intro101 for the ”uninitiated” .
I think you may find the publication, to which I created a DL hot-link – far below -in
http://www.kereport.com/2015/02/09/jeff-deist-comments-government-mandates-area-inoculations/?replytocom=303878#respond
a worthwhile read.
CORY / AL: Simple solution to the compulsion issue, higher med premiums for the morons who won’t vaccinate (at least the fundamental ones (polio , hep a-c, tetanus etc). Or lower premiums for those who reduce risk to those around them / potential much larger costs to the medical system down the road. Polio was eliminated because of a vaccine.. The only reason it has shown up at all in the last few years?? Religious and “new age/ all natural” nut jobs who consider Wikipedia and Web md a doctorate in medicine .. jmho
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Morons, religious / new age nut jobs etc are those who don’t follow yours & government views.
Perhaps I am one or none of the above, but as a free man I am still able to inform myself from doctors who disagree with mainstream drug obsessed medicine, and avoided semi-mandatory jabs to a 2 day old baby with Hep C (sexually transmitted disease). Call me what you like, but my family’s health has been boosted dramatically by not being trapped in the paradigm you are apparently confined to, and I look/feel many years younger As a result. One’s Life is/should be a series of choices by the individual, not the herd & it’s masters,
I suppose being a free man you could drive down the road with your feet on the steering wheel. Does that make it a good idea?? There are few on this site as anti institutional as I (conservatism flies in the face of perhaps the only constant in all of existence – that being CHANGE)
Sorry Lee, I’ve seen far too many people (ESPECIALLY KIDS) who have been harmed or killed because of parents who have ridiculous beliefs that lead to their refusing blood iv s or having the most basic vaccines and boosters given to them. I’m certainly not for the state mandating anything nor am i in favour of ALL vaccines but for people to choose not to use ANY vaccines is beyond shameful. If anything I hope the state holds these people accountable when they are responsible for the health and well being of others who suffer because of this nonesense
Jay, the only appropriate response to your posts is “Shut up.”
“People” like Jay deserve a much harsher response than “shut up.”
Sorry.. forgot rational responses dont work with religious people … otherwise, there would be no religious people 🙂
I agree. Your belief in the system and so-called authorities is obviously a religious one. 😮
Sorry Matthew let me RE iterate my statement: as far as political authority and in fact MOST of the institutional aspects of our society I consider myself libertarian / anarcho – cyndiclist whereby authoritative power should be HIGHLY DECENTRALIZED.
So I’m not sure where you get the idea that I believe in “the system”, whatever that means..
what I DO know is the wisest of us are those who recognize their own ignorance. There is little that damages our ability to understand and exist in the world we live in as much as claiming to know that which we do not! You are no Doctor, nor these celebs and health trend hippies. I’m no Doctor, and would never claim to know better then someone who is as I haven’t dedicated my life to that focus of knowledge. If a large number of people who HAVE dedicated their own finances, as well as years of time and experience, to medicine are telling you option a (I.e. vaccines) is better than the alternative (I.e. “I won’t save me child’s life because God doesn’t allow us to put blood donated from others in our own bodies”) i think I’ll put a little more faith in millions of hrs of experience and research over the advice of Alex Jones, celebrities and / or pie in the sky. Besides , if everything is as God wills it, how do you reconcile vaccines not being the will of God?
You seem like you agree with the idea that we should question everything (especially what we are told from the powers that be). And I am 100% in agreement with that concept . Funny how some of us can’t apply that same concept – which we apply to every other aspect of authority – to Religion…
Jay, you’re no libertarian if you are fine with anyone forcing injections on people whether they are safe or not. (The exception would be parents and their kids).
The fact that their safety is VERY questionable is beside the point. (What ding dongs like Alex Jones has to do with this I do not know, but you are very naive to believe and trust the experts that you do.)
As someone else here asked, why do you care what others do as long as you can protect yourself from them with your own injection?
The following remark of yours is disgusting: “If anything I hope the state holds these people accountable when they are responsible for the health and well being of others who suffer because of this nonesense”
Laugh of the day: First you say, “There is little that damages our ability to understand and exist in the world we live in as much as claiming to know that which we do not!”
Then you say: “You are no Doctor…” What buffoonery!
Do your homework objectively and fearlessly if you want to get to the truth about your masters.
“Ordinary men and women will be expected to be docile, industrious, punctual, thoughtless, and contented. Of these qualities probably contentment will be considered the most important. In order to produce it, all the researches of psycho-analysis, behaviourism, and biochemistry will be brought into play.” —–[part 3, XIV, Education in a Scientific Society p.251]
Since we opened a conversation regarding medicine:
My oldest son came down with the worst medical problem that was ever experienced in our immediate family, Tourette-syndrome. The doctors at Pitt University pretty much agreed that any work done to prevent would never happen because there just weren’t enough people with the problem to make it worth spending the money for research. On the other hand, traveling around town, I have seen Flu shots being offered at almost every pharmacy, large grocery store and even the library. Try this: The next time someone tells you that they had or have the Flu, ask them if they got a Flu shot, – odd are they did.
I would also add that Cancer is not a disease but rather it is indeed an industry.
It has been said by some renowned doctors that there are far more people making their living in some way that is connected to the disease, than actually have Cancer.
And lastly, although not related to medicine,m but to money, I once heard an army officer say that there was no way to stop what was going on in Iraq or Afghanistan, but there was plenty of money to made prolonging the problem.
Sorry about the ranting – I think I’m OK now.
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I have to agree with Cory on this topic. My wife also a nurse and we are currently raising our second family. I suuport the doctors and private schools that are refusing service to the non inoculated. Well done, cory.
I agree with Clem Kadiddlehopper….he said, “vaccines are good for you”.
If yuor kids have such great vaccines then what are you worried about them being around your kids? Let’s rub our 2 brain cells together and formulate a logical thought. Most of these diseases that are popping up are being brought into this country by our border jumping friends to the south. 🙂
Can you document that statement, please. Also, no children are vaccinated until age 1 and it takes several years before they are complete. You are probably not old enough to remember polio. Be care rubbing those brain cells together as well.
Re: “If yuor kids have such great vaccines then what are you worried about them being around your kids? Let’s rub our 2 brain cells together and formulate a logical thought.”
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Let me clarify I meant your kids being around unvaccinated kids.
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Nobody talks about what’s actually in these vaccines…things like mercury and aluminum – because they’re sooo healthy for you. Not reported in US: in 2014 the Italian govt. awarded compensation to a boy for vaccine-induced autism as a result of a Glaxo produced product.
In Italy the govt. pays the fine not the drug manufacturer.
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The sheeple are sickeningly clueless.
If your kids are vaccinated, how can they get sick from the ones that aren’t vaccinated.