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March 3, 2015

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    Mar 03, 2015 03:12 AM

    Good Advice,

    I’ve stayed away from this market for a year now.

    Buy stops 1367. Gold is really pathetic, no reason to buy.
    In the last 14 years, there has NEVER been an up move of more that $30 or so.
    There will always be time to get in.

    Dollar To Da Moon!

      Mar 03, 2015 03:22 AM

      You don’t mind a monthly RSI(14) reading of 80 when you buy the dollar? Okey dokey…

        Mar 03, 2015 03:36 AM

        Matthew, I was one of those guys who thought that the dollar was going to collapse any moment…but not anymore. Dollar is going higher until everything breaks apart. We might have some small corrections here and there. The dollar is the prettiest pig in the pigpen. It should be obvious by now. My 2 cents.

          Mar 03, 2015 03:25 PM

          Chris, gold opened 2014 at $1204.50 and 2015 at $1184. So the other currencies did more falling than the US dollar did rising.
          A huge quick move and extreme overbought reading in any asset will always prompt big smart money to do at least SOME selling. The dollar has never been so overbought so I’m more interested in selling it than acquiring it.

            Mar 03, 2015 03:05 PM

            Point, but another point is making money with UUP – 12% since I jumped in early September. To the point other currencies falling, yes I am glad I have EUO – up 30%+ in same time. Each to his own I guess. I am with Chris, but watching it closely with a pretty tight mental stop point. I am better maintaining purchasing power with

            Mar 03, 2015 03:20 PM

            Good job with UUP. Except for the current negative divergence, the daily chart looks very good.
            I just can’t choose the dollar over gold when talking about the big picture. Yes, it can stay overbought for a long time, but the contrarian in me doesn’t like the odds.
            http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=UUP&p=D&yr=0&mn=9&dy=0&id=p19799027284&a=361825427

            Mar 03, 2015 03:41 PM

            Matthew,
            Thank you for your perspective here. I appreciate it. Good to get thoughts from others. I am still holding gold coins, and await the day when I will feel comfortable again buying gold shares, ETFs, and perhaps more coins if finances allow. I likely will miss the first 50% rise in gold stocks, therefore, but that is the price I pay waiting for a clear uptrend (in my eyes).

            Mar 03, 2015 03:15 PM

            If the coming bull market is as good as I think it will be, missing the first 50% won’t be a big deal. More investors should get a handle on their own risk tolerance as you have done. Too many focus only on big gains but aren’t prepared for the associated big risks.

        LPG
        Mar 03, 2015 03:50 AM

        Matthew,
        Thumbs up part II for your call yday on CRJ implying there was a bit more juice left.
        From your call last week to today’s intraday high so far, that’s c.+40%
        +40% in the space of 4 trading days, when gold has done nothing.
        R-E-S-P-E-C-T.
        Best to you,
        LPG

          Mar 03, 2015 03:41 AM

          Thanks LPG.

          Best to you.

            Mar 03, 2015 03:26 PM

            Now can you give us another for the next 4 days :)?

            Mar 03, 2015 03:27 PM

            ๐Ÿ™‚

            Mar 03, 2015 03:27 PM

            What was the reason for that pop? Any news?

            Mar 03, 2015 03:50 PM

            It was just time. The chart was ready and despite jumping 28% so far this week, it is still trading at just .66x book, 1x sales, and has a forward PE of about 5. Then there’s the speculative interest on the part of those who think gold is going to do well from here. If they’re right, Claude can go much higher from here.

            LPG
            Mar 03, 2015 03:23 PM

            Glenfidish,
            I like your suggestion to Matthew, but you might have asked instead:
            “Now can you give us another one EVERY 4 days” ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚
            Best to you,
            LPG

            Mar 03, 2015 03:24 PM

            Thanks for reply ๐Ÿ™‚

            Mar 03, 2015 03:25 PM

            LPG,

            Im all over that :)..

            All the best

            Mar 03, 2015 03:29 PM

            Matt,

            check your email and send me a confirmation.

            Mar 03, 2015 03:24 PM

            Glen, I checked and have nothing to confirm. ๐Ÿ™

            Mar 03, 2015 03:34 PM

            Al said he would get to it ๐Ÿ™

            al wake up please and send matt my email

            regards

            Mar 03, 2015 03:43 PM

            Hey, go easy on him or he’ll take his time! ๐Ÿ™‚

            Mar 03, 2015 03:51 PM

            lol

    Mar 03, 2015 03:18 AM
    Mar 03, 2015 03:22 AM

    Only one thing surprises me, that is, the master Doc has lost his touch. That is the first time I’ve seen that in over a year.

    Doc’s recent call for gold to go to 1250.00, went way beyond that and corrected to below 1200.00

    He then changed his call to 1190.00. Still no bounce.

    So until the master can get his calls back, Don’t touch, imo. If he can’t figure it out, no one can. I’ve been involved in this gold market for over 20 years, and Doc has been the ONLY one with the ability of making short term calls. Period. No one else.

    Until his calls start working again, you think you have a chance?

      Mar 03, 2015 03:52 PM

      Dave, you’re correct. I’m going to have to go back to the drawing board and see where I went wrong. But hold the line—-don’t count on my recent call being wrong just yet. We may have hit a low about 6 days ago. The thing that bothered me about my call 2 weeks ago was the fact the PM stocks weren’t signalling a move up whereas some of my technicals were for gold. Anyway the fat lady isn’t singing yet and I believe we might have another chance real soon to put a sock in her mouth in the near future.

        Mar 03, 2015 03:40 PM

        Doc,

        please elaborate as im puzzled as to why not a pop at t he very least to test 1251/1253. Maybe it is coming but the longer this plays out the more we metals/miners have to deal with Fridays report/job numbers. It seems they only let gold go up after hours but during the day they slam her. Will this change in your opinion. My bigger concern here and now is chartsters scenario of a complete break down and instead of at least a mini pop we get a hammer down breal of 1180. Do you not see a decent pop before breakdown if that is the case?

        cheers.

        glen

    Mar 03, 2015 03:24 AM

    Ron Paul told me in person “don’t trade gold, keep it”. I stick to it. Nobody knows more about the dire financial situation of the Western governments. The long term scheme is print, print and print. The driver is not sentiment in the long run since it average out. The driver is money printing, which is required by the debt we need to service.

    I keep focused. Central banks are on our side.

      Mar 03, 2015 03:44 AM

      I think bullion banks are trying to create volatility to shake out longs, especially silver longs. If they want us out, we stay in. Our loss is their gain. There is not much room for gold and silver to go down, creating volatility is the only way to scare people out. Like David Morgan said, the market will either wear you out or scare you out.

      Mar 03, 2015 03:48 PM

      BINGO LAWRENCE…….BINGO

        Mar 04, 2015 04:51 AM

        Marc:

        My thoughts also.

    Mar 03, 2015 03:26 AM

    I just watched a video from PDAC from David Morgan. He predicted $1550 gold and $26 silver in the fall of this year. He has a new book out yesterday titled “The Silver Manifesto” I doubt very much that either of these targets will be touched this year without a black swan event. IMHO his predictions are based mostly on sentiment and are irresponsible.

      Mar 03, 2015 03:53 AM

      I just watched a video from PDAC from Jeff Christian. He says that there is no overt manipulation but the bankers and cftc were both sloppy. There is daily manipulations, he says, but not the big “M” that many think is out there. A step away from his old mantra of, ‘There is no manipulations and the market works’.

        Christian is full crap……………

          Mar 03, 2015 03:33 AM

          He works for JPM and GS. He is part of the game.

            yes, you are correct, I heard he was part of the banksters……years ago….

            That is the advantage of being around this market so long, you get to see the liars make an ass out of themselves by trying to cover up what they said in the past…, and….A liar never remembers what they say.

            Mar 03, 2015 03:05 AM

            He seems to always want to appear that he knows what is going on inside the ropes of the gold market and now his feet are being held to the fire a bit with the new manipulation charges coming forward. With the other assertions around 2008, of the silver market being manipulated and then those assertions being refuted; I don’t think the CFTC would come forward this time, with manipulation charges, without substantial proof first.

      Mar 03, 2015 03:56 AM

      Thank’s CFS !

      Mar 03, 2015 03:17 AM

      I agree CFS. That was a great speech. Lets hope it makes a difference where it matters and that change happens fast.

    Mar 03, 2015 03:32 AM

    Beware of Dave Morgan, Peter Schiff, Jim Sinclair, Frank Holmes.
    They have been terrible.

    Dave Morgan in particular, has been so wrong so long. He doesn’t have a clue. His price targets have been so far off the mark.

    Just remember no one knows. These self professed gurus are just that. Be extremely cautious.

      Mar 03, 2015 03:36 AM

      If anyone could time any market with any degree of regularity why would they need to sell investment advice to make a living? So yes, no one knows.

        Mar 03, 2015 03:22 AM

        This I agree with..to a certain extent.

      Mar 03, 2015 03:46 AM

      David Morgan got me into silver at $7 and asked me to sell above $40. He is great.

        Mar 03, 2015 03:47 AM

        Don’t blame him, blame yourself.

          Mar 03, 2015 03:49 AM

          Do you agree with his predictions for this year?

            Mar 03, 2015 03:53 AM

            I usually don’t care about yearly prediction. There is no way to know. Analysts are forced to give out forecast so I take it with grain of salt.

            Mar 03, 2015 03:55 AM

            Thanks L, I, for one, will not buy one of his books but he is definitely not the only promoter out there.

            Mar 03, 2015 03:34 AM

            Dan, I don’t know why such a move would be so surprising to you. Absolutely no black swan is necessary for gold (or any market) to do very well after a very nasty bear market. Of course the MSM would have you believe otherwise.

            As a market completely rids itself of bears/sellers, it becomes too cheap and attracts buyers. BUT, with all the sellers and bears out, those new buyers are forced to buy from owners who actually understand value —and shares won’t be sold so cheap. Market forces feed on themselves and go too far, both up and down.

            As value minded contrarians start to push prices up, momentum followers start to notice. Then you get the moving averages pointing up along with technical breakouts and more money flows in every step of the way as people gain confidence in the new trend and want their share of the action.

            Markets store energy just like a pendulum before they revert to the mean.

            In addition to all that, don’t let this cyclical bear market fool you; gold’s price drivers have not gone away, if anything, they have strengthened and multiplied.

            If gold can close above the 89 month simple moving average for two consecutive months, I think a retest of the 2013 breakdown area would happen not long after.

            Mar 03, 2015 03:50 AM

            Great explanation, I don’t doubt the prices can get there, but he should stake his reputation on this call.

            Mar 03, 2015 03:00 AM

            I don’t know much about Dave Morgan these days, but judging by the opinions many have of him, I don’t think he can avoid staking his reputation on such calls. ๐Ÿ™‚

            Mar 03, 2015 03:02 AM

            Don’t know if it’ll show up for you, but here’s a chart to go with my earlier post above:
            http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$GOLD&p=M&yr=7&mn=0&dy=0&id=p17777639336&a=396874935

            Mar 03, 2015 03:49 AM

            When priced in all the major currencies, but the US dollar, gold has already gone up to test the breakdown area:
            http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$GOLD:UDN&p=M&yr=8&mn=3&dy=0&id=p22855797266&a=396886789

          Mar 03, 2015 03:13 AM

          blame myself? For what.

            Mar 03, 2015 03:17 AM

            For not been able to make money according to his advice.

          bb
          Mar 03, 2015 03:16 AM

          Lawrence, just sayin, your the only person Ive ever heard saying that.
          I recall Mr Morgan repeatedly saying buy buy buy, even saying get it now, later there might not be any etc.
          I never saw him say sell, except once, I believe you pointed a mention out to me.

          My point, is, I recall Mr Morgan being very vocal and loud for buying silver, his sell, the one time I saw it as you pointed it out, was a whisper in comparison.

          A month or so ago I did him him say that he figured 200 onces was about right for owning silver, all that should be needed if tshtf. ok, but that’s a far cry from what he was saying a few years ago.
          Im sure Mr Morgan is a great guy, but really, your the only person I have seen saying he was a wonderful mastermind that made him a lot or any money.
          Just sayin Lawrence, no offence.

            bb…..200 oz………why was your time…….

            Mar 03, 2015 03:25 AM

            Yes he is good. He got me into silver and he did ask people to sell silver at $26 in 2010 and later recognized it was a mistake and asked people to go back in. Then He recommend people to take profit when silver reached $40. Most importantly, he tell people why they need to own silver. I think it is more important. If you listen to an analyst, you have to follow him for a long time. Casual advice does not work. For example he has been advicing people to add silver since silver in the $20s and now it is down. It will go up later. If you sell now, you can say he is wrong. You may have to find a person like Gary to tell you how to do short term trading. But I don’t think he is very successful either, otherwise why is he out of the market. No body beat JPM is short term trading. No way. The own the market in short term, even medium term.

            bb
            Mar 03, 2015 03:50 AM

            Why was your time?
            Waste?
            Mr Morgan was saying 200 onces is about what a person would need to get him thru, “the event” Shemitah or “big bang” he didn’t use those words I am, but I think that’s what he is talkin about.
            To be honust, I have all I want and I don’t bother with it anymore.
            Why? Life is too short to get fixated on it, imo. 5% gold monthly is fine I think.

            I do try to learn this trading tho, its challenging.

            I would not waste my time only holding two hundred oz.of phyz……

            Since, Morgan does not know when and if………the shtf…………how can he determine the number of ozs…………

            The guy is guessing………Who would have ever thought , that Interest rates would have been held down this long……………and now, we are going into negative interest rates., I think he is a little light in his assumption…………..jmho..

            bb
            Mar 03, 2015 03:20 AM

            J, yes he is guessing, pretty much everybody is guessing.

            I thought his 200 once guess was actually pretty good, most people own zero 95%+.
            It also implys silver is just 1 thing required for “prepping”, if that’s what your into.
            That piece of land with water on it will cost a few shekels for example, generators,medicines, spare vehicles spare part, it goes on and on.
            If a person thinks silver or gold alone will save him in a complete financial “melt down”, well, imo he is dreamin.

            Now, if everything holds together just fine banks don’t close there are no bail ins atms and gas pumps keep working etc silver could very well pay off.

            But if things truly got bad, there are many many things that will be more valuable than metals.
            As Bird has said, chickens are money. lol

            Mar 03, 2015 03:31 PM

            200 ounces, eh?

            Big Al Korelin carries around more silver than that in his back pocket! ๐Ÿ™‚

            That is why they call BIG AL……..SAGGY PANTS……..or Pants on the ground….

            Morgan………said……he thought silver would hit$26 this year in Sept…..kitco….today

            Mar 03, 2015 03:03 PM

            Pants on the ground? Wasn’t that a hit song a few years back?

            You think Owl Coinland knows General Platt?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMwhl4IrPNc

            generally speaking ,()wl is narrow minded……………

            Mar 03, 2015 03:44 PM

            But with all that silver in the back pocket not narrowly waisted. ๐Ÿ™‚ (or wasted) ๐Ÿ™‚

    Mar 03, 2015 03:40 AM

    Gold hit the bottom of its trend channel at $1195 in the early hours of 3/3/2015.
    It seems to be weakening within the recent shallow uptrend. Itโ€™s a long way from the top of the recent little uptrend which would b at $1232. It looks like traders were trying to break it down in the last day and they were met by strong buying at $1195 for now.
    The top of the now forgotten uptrend in force since November 2014 would be at about $1340, just short of the $1347 high of late Summer 2014 and that looks a long way off.

    http://1000gold.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/gold-hit-1195-at-bottom-of-its-uptrend.html

      Mar 03, 2015 03:41 AM

      Peter Hug at Kitco appears to be looking for a breakdown which would be below $1200 or even below $1195 then:
      http://www.kitco.com/ind/Hug/2015-03-03-A-Break-in-Gold-s-Current-Range-is-Imminent.html

        Mar 03, 2015 03:53 AM

        Sounds good to me. Those are also my thoughts that gold breaks down here…not up.

      Mar 03, 2015 03:50 AM

      This current attempt at an uptrend is hugging the very long term uptrend support for gold that goes back to lows in 2004 and 2008. Things could get interestnig if it does not hold.
      I am looking at the possibility of an ultimate low around $750.

        Mar 03, 2015 03:59 AM

        Watch out Silverbug Dave, you get shot around these parts thinking gold could hit the 700s….. But, Welcome aboard!! Heh heh

    Mar 03, 2015 03:47 AM

    What is happening in the conventional markets is more of interest – are they breaking down now?

      Mar 03, 2015 03:13 AM

      I think the conventional market is protected by PPT. It is not bubbling. Instead, it is made growing steadily. It cannot crash if there is the support from PPT. If it starts to bubble, PPT will push it down and if it starts crash, PPT will support it. So it will grow in a trajectory of slow growth until they don’t need to pretend any more. I have been watching it and have some of my money there. It starts to look like that to me a few years ago. I wish I have put more money in. Bernanke was counting on wealth effect and it worked.

        Mar 03, 2015 03:16 AM

        I have come to the same conclusion – 7 years too late ๐Ÿ™‚

          Mar 03, 2015 03:39 AM

          it is painful to realize that there is no free market any more. They pump money into bond and housing openly. They suppress the gold market and baby sit the stock market. All the conspiracy theories become conspiracy facts. Free market is crucial to wealth creation. Management of market can only lead to mal-investment.

    Mar 03, 2015 03:57 AM

    I guess you’re right, Big Al Korelin. I better go listen to Nutty Yahoo. He’s gonna want more money for Israel so let me dig deeper into my pocket to see how much more Uncle Sugar can steal.

      Mar 03, 2015 03:08 AM

      I thought you said that was all funny money? So no big deal right?

        Mar 03, 2015 03:30 AM

        Through inflation, higher taxes and “fees” and ruinous debt, one way or another it’s little people like me who wind up paying for all the foreign “aid” and other warmongering and all the other trappings of the Welfare/Warfare State.

      CFS
      Mar 03, 2015 03:42 AM

      Did you actually listen to the speech, Ebolan?
      I did not hear Israel ask for a penny.

      I did hear a plea against stupidly giving Iran nukes.

        Mar 03, 2015 03:26 AM

        I did not hear Israel ask for a penny.

        They don’t need to ask. When NuttYahoo tells Congress to jump our traitors ask, “How high?”

        Why should a GD penny be taken from me or any other American (and by force if necessary) and be given to any foreign government?

        Through the American taxpayer and stealing American technology the Israelis have their own nuclear arsenal.

          Mar 03, 2015 03:57 PM

          What if the tables were turned? What if America had enemies on all sides who really don’t want us to exist and had attacked them before, we asked for the world superpower Israel to not give them nuclear anything? I guarantee you would feel much differently.

          I also happen to be a part of a vast minority of folks who think America, with all its corrupt leaders, still have divine protection according to the Biblical promise from God that “anyone who blesses you[Israel], I will bless. And anyone who curses you[Israel], I will curse.” But as soon as we turn on Israel (which Obama has done everything but), there our national blessing also goes.

            bb
            Mar 03, 2015 03:09 PM

            Makes sense. Israel and the U.S. are kinda from the same mold.

          Mar 03, 2015 03:00 PM

          If you really want to ask a question is why the bankers are continually bailed out with taxpayer money and have a status as “too big to fail” when they are constantly in the news for breaking financial rules for cheating everyone else. Some of these JPM things are on the scale of Enron, yet they got off with a fine. A fine that they easily paid because they are getting almost free money from the Federal Reserve.

            bb
            Mar 03, 2015 03:11 PM

            Pretty simple I think, the bankers make the rules. They win.

    Mar 03, 2015 03:06 AM

    I made a few buck this morning then headed right for the exits as gold reversed. This is some choppy water that demands technical precision! Unfortunately I’m am far from precise on my technicals so I will take Gary’s advice. At least until that Friday gold take down has passed. Thanks Gary.

    WELL the republicans (half of the snake)….folded on immigration and decided to fund HLS…………no guts……….

      Mar 03, 2015 03:43 AM

      Color me shocked. No…Boehner folded like a cheap 2 dollar chair? Say it ain’t so.

      Mar 03, 2015 03:17 PM

      Rhetorical – what was point of their supposed hardball last Friday. They are all useless. They must think we are stupid. Unfortunately, many are stupid. Vote them ALL out.

    Mar 03, 2015 03:35 AM

    I guess if you’re trading gold and silver then a move down is chilling. I look at it as another opportunity to buy more at a little cheaper price. I’m not smart enough to trade in these markets and I put a premium on my free time. I look at gold and silver like land to be developed in the future, therefore I don’t have to think about it to long or offend. Being simpleminded has some advantages anyways.

      Mar 03, 2015 03:53 AM

      These are very similar to my thoughts this morning.
      I went into my trading account and trimmed and adjusted
      until I reached my goal of “being able to sleep at night”

      I am doing one last trade today:

      *** I am trading in my constant watching of PMS/stocks for more free time ***

      Brian

    CFS
    Mar 03, 2015 03:36 AM
    Mar 03, 2015 03:20 AM

    Companies Are Stampeding to Buy Back Their Own Stock: Just Like Before the 2008 Crash

    On December 20, 2007, Bear Stearns held a conference call with analysts to review its fourth quarter earnings. During the call, the company revealed that โ€œFor the full fiscal year, the company repurchased 12 million shares of common stock at an aggregate cost of $1.7 billion.โ€ Less than three months later, the company collapsed.

    http://wallstreetonparade.com/2015/03/companies-are-stampeding-to-buy-back-their-own-stock-just-like-before-the-2008-crash/

    Mar 03, 2015 03:24 AM

    Gary,Matt anyone else..

    What is the best canadian etf equivalent of dust 3x? and nugt?

    Would greatly appreciate it.

    Mar 03, 2015 03:27 AM

    Gary… What do you make of THIS:

    http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2015/03/03/could-apple-prove-a-game-changer-for-gold/

    Excerpts from the Wall Street Journal article published today:

    * A gold version of the Apple Watch could โ€” potentially โ€” use almost a fifth of global supply.

    * Each watch may contain less than half a troy ounce of gold, says Mr. Williams. At 50,000 units a month, which some analysts think its a more realistic sale figure, that would mean Apple would have to buy no more than 9 tons of gold a year.

      Mar 03, 2015 03:23 AM

      6 million a year means 3 million ounces, which is around 93 tons a year. Your calculation missed a digit. I heard it would contains 2 ounces each. Half an ounce for that price is too much. It would not sell.

        Mar 03, 2015 03:12 PM

        Lawrence, not my calculation. I copied/pasted from Wall Street Journal blog ๐Ÿ™‚

          Mar 03, 2015 03:21 PM

          I guess they don’t think people will verify.

            Mar 03, 2015 03:57 PM

            Good catch, thanks!

    Mar 03, 2015 03:48 AM

    Murk is coming by friday. The longer gold stuggles with 1200 the sooner it will break it.
    As i said many times before 1130-1080 is coming and i don’t care what most of you say. Your sentiment is incorrect and until your sentiment will correct to extremely bearish i will be out of this market. When most of you will wine and cry like a little baby i will be buying then for the rally. Thank you and have a good day. lmao.

      Mar 03, 2015 03:03 PM

      Re: “The longer gold stuggles with 1200 the sooner it will break it.”

      Huh? The longer… the sooner… ok, if you say so! I won’t wine or whine. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Mar 03, 2015 03:59 AM

    ********* THERE IS SO MUCH BULLSHIT IN THIS MARKET THAT IT IS NOT EVEN FUNNY…………..ASK YOURSELF, REALLY……….WHERE IS ALL THIS GOLD COMING FROM………I MEAN REALLY, WITH CHINA BUYING UP ALL THE YEARLY MINED GOLD SUPPLY EACH YEAR AND ALL THESE OTHER BIG STORIES ON GOLD PURCHASING FROM AROUND THE WORLD AND NOW THIS APPLE GOLD IWATCH STORY AND ALL THIS TONAGE…………..AND ALSO NOT COUNTING THE OVER 100 OR MORE COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD HOLDING GOLD RESERVES AS WELL AS OWNERSHIP OF GOLD JEWERY AND GOLD BULLION WORLDWIDE ………I MEAN REALLY…………..THERE SHOULD DEFINITELY BE A SHORTAGE OF SOME SORT BY NOW………AND THE PRICE OF GOLD SHOULD BE WELL INTO THE $3000’s, SURELY. LIKE I SAID YESTERDAY, THERE IS ONLY ENOUGH ABOVE GROUND GOLD IN THE WORLD TO FILL THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT 1/3 OF THE WAY UP…………..SO SOMETHING IS WRONG……..THINK PEOPLE THINK……………..THIS IS ALL BULL…………..SOMETHING IS WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!! *****************

      NICE rant……………..love it……………you are great……………j………

      Mar 03, 2015 03:09 PM

      Mark who cares! Fundamentals don’t mean sh1t until cartel is dead. Only price action does and will.

    bb
    Mar 03, 2015 03:10 PM

    U.S. Mint American Eagle gold coin sales tumble in February
    U.S. Mint American Eagle gold coin sales in February were the weakest for the second month of the year since 2007, and down 77 percent from January, according to data on Friday, as investors eyed the soaring stock markets.

    The U.S. Mint sold 18,500 ounces of gold bullion coins this month, down from 31,000 ounces in February 2014 and the lowest for the second month of the year since 2007 when just 4,000 ounces were sold.

    Just 81,000 ounces of gold coins were sold in January, the smallest amount for the first month of the year since 2008.

    This follows weak full-year sales in 2014, which were the lowest since 2007.

    No surprises here, as retail bullion sales continue to be disastrous. Ted says that it’s only JPMorgan buying silver eagles hand over fist that’s keeping their sales elevated like they are

      JPM must have an eye for VALUE…………………..

        Question on the sales of Silver eagles………….Since, you say it tumbled in FEB., WAS THERE ENOUGHT ROUNDS supplied to the MINT, or was there actual lack of demand………………………………………..thanks j…………

          bb
          Mar 03, 2015 03:21 PM

          Well, I would say as jpm is buying “hand over fist” the mint is able to produce.

          Mar 03, 2015 03:27 PM

          Silver eagle sale has been up year over year till last time I saw. Mint always ration it by halting the distribution.

          So I go for 100 bars which I don’t have to pay huge premium.

          US people seem ill prepared for financial hardship. What do they fall back on when to pay check to paycheck. Not everyone can rob others with guns. In extreme time, police will be allow to execute robbers on spot.

            ditto on the bars…………

            Mar 03, 2015 03:49 PM

            Sorry , I mean what to fall back on if they go paycheck to pay check now. Exercise my iphone editing

            Mar 03, 2015 03:50 PM

            In extreme times there may not even be police. Most of them might be more concerned with their own families. They themselves might even rob others if they need to just to survive.

            good point jmiller………………….j

    Mar 03, 2015 03:50 PM

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but is gold and silver at or near costs right now?

      bb
      Mar 03, 2015 03:26 PM

      gregd, mining costs are above the retail price for some mines and below for others.

      Silver sorta doesn’t really count so much, most of it comes from mines that have other metals as their focus, silver being kind of a “bonus” or an issue to get rid of. Depending on how the management of any particular mine/company views it.

        Mar 03, 2015 03:31 PM

        Apparently Pam American silver president is counting on silver price to go up soon. He said companies cannot find deposits for this price to make money. I saw a lot if not most silver companies use $22 dollar as the budget price so they make money on paper. All primary silver mines have red balance sheet, except Tahoe resources.

        Mar 03, 2015 03:57 PM

        Base metal was over produced during the last 10 years because the long permit and construction process. The projects went through the high price time just watching others to make money. This leads to over investment . The price went so high which makes the poorest mines to make money because mines cannot come on line quick enough. In 2006, the industry average cost was 60 cents and price was $4.5 for copper in 2006. Now the price is dropping and cost goes up, some mines have to go off line, that result in less silver too.

    Mar 03, 2015 03:05 PM

    Here’s a good looking weekly chart of Claude for those of you using the US symbol:
    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=CLGRF&p=W&yr=2&mn=11&dy=0&id=p21086830339&a=396899698

      Mar 03, 2015 03:20 PM

      Matthew…Craig at TFMetals report has noted the $gold algos do trade in lockstep with the Japanese Yen quite a bit.

        Mar 03, 2015 03:40 PM

        Thanks.

    Mar 03, 2015 03:23 PM

    I only hope that some day, some bored lawyer – pref fem with long legs – slaps some of your pee-pees … guys who don’t know how to use quotation marks.

    Go ahead, google it – you Dum Bass

      Mar 03, 2015 03:45 PM

      Irwin, if she is good looking the drawbridge will be up and she might get more than she bargained for.

    Mar 03, 2015 03:53 PM

    ******** ABOVE ALL THINGS THAT ARE SAID ABOUT WHY THIS ECONOMY IS GOING TO COLLAPSE……….THIS IS DIFINITELY ONE AND ONLY ONE REASON THAT YOU KNOW THAT THEY KNOW THAT WE ARE HEADED FOR A COLLAPSE ********* REMEMBER THIS:
    http://www.drudge.com/news/184340/congressman-put-wall-street-bailout-into

    NOTE: THEY NEVER TOOK THIS OUT OF THE SPENDING BILL, AND THEY NEVER HAD TO DO THIS BEFORE……………..THIS IS HOW YOU KNOW THAT THE COLLAPSE IS COMING !!!

      Mar 03, 2015 03:03 PM

      Mark, to be fair to the banks, a lot of the trades they are doing is on behalf of government or FED. If they are not covered, they will not do it. The interest rate rated derivative in said to be over 100 trillion dollars, some say 300 trillion. They are all for the suppression of interest rate which FED and US government wants. It is a house of cards and the banks want insurance. Otherwise they burn with the collapse.

    Mar 03, 2015 03:45 PM

    ARE YOU SERIOUS……………I mean is it me………….or am I………..I mean………dose there really always have to be somebody that no matter what, finds a way to disagree with the TRUTH…………..SO BECAUSE OF THAT YOU REALLY THINK THAT IT IS OKAY TO PUT THAT BURDEN ON THEIR BANK DEPOSITORS IN ORDER TO SAVE THEMSELVES ??????????????

      Mar 03, 2015 03:48 PM

      OH……..AND DID YOU SAY: BE FAIR………………..are you kidding me !

        Mar 03, 2015 03:02 PM

        I am not disagreeing and not say it is right. I mean is there is a reason. Otherwise, there will be some fights. The fact that they get away with this so easily means that they are in bed with government. Eventually people will suffer. If people are not willing to fight this, they will be the victims. It is the time to have massive protests like 1960s.

        Mar 03, 2015 03:09 PM

        By the way, are you Heavyhitter by any chance?

          Mar 03, 2015 03:47 PM

          NO I AM NOT HH……………maybe it is the way you type your text, it sounded almost as if you were in favor of this charade.

            Mar 03, 2015 03:01 PM

            It is my fault I did not say I am against it. I thought people already understand my position since I am quite vocal against bankers controlling the western world.

    Mar 03, 2015 03:00 PM

    Thank you Mathew much appreciated- please keep up the good work.Claudelooks a little heavy here-

      Mar 03, 2015 03:40 PM

      You’re welcome. Initial selling into strength this morning was fairly aggressive, but it is positive that Claude finished the day on a high note as buyers reasserted themselves. As long as gold doesn’t fall apart, I think Claude can reach 53 cents U.S. without much difficulty, but I would not buy here myself.

    Mar 03, 2015 03:38 PM

    Time to watch sugar as it hits an important mulit year low this week. Will it fall lower…..or will it bounce from here? The Commercials are net short although not with conviction. This may give us an indication on whether the commodities bear will continue or if prices will turn up in concert with a falling dollar (I am expecting a dollar / euro reversal incidentally) so this bottom comes at a key point.

    Mar 03, 2015 03:43 PM

    And then there is coffee….Ouch! Heading straight back to its 2009 lows that were matched in late 2013. Hmmmm. Sugar and coffee. I better go look in on cream now that I am at it!

      Mar 04, 2015 04:54 AM

      I just bought some Borders’ Dark Chocolate Ginger biscuits Birdman – delicious. I am halfway through a packet in 10 minutes.

    Mar 04, 2015 04:12 AM

    One of these days soon I want to get into the pension bust that is coming. This is not some pie in the sky worry that might (maybe) emerge one fine day but rather a very real extinction threat that all retirees now face.

    This all goes back to the long term rates I often discuss and the eventual conclusion of the bond bubble which is near its termination point. Only a default crisis awaits to touch off the powder and while we do not know from whence it might emerge we do have some pretty good suspects in mind.

    When people wondered what would be the real problem with a Greek default i simply noted it meant all of us would pay. Some argued with me immediately and pointed to the fact that most of their debt is held by the EZ, IMF, European banks and the sort.

    Their implied point was that actual people, private investors and the like were thus immune because it was obvious that all the burden was being carried by institutions, banks and financial organizations.

    They obviously missed the point and did not question whose money backs up all of those groups. The point is that a string of defaults will absolutely and with no doubt cascade across the system and impact on every single class of holders bar none.

    Nobody is going to be exempted and none will be immune.

    This is a good time to again check your portfolios for content and keep counterparty risks in mind. It DOES matter who you bank with and who are your brokers. It DOES matter what your Mutual Fund is fully invested in because debt is about to get very dangerous and once the clock strikes twelve there will be no escape for those late ot make adjustments.

    The other thing that really interests me and I have not touched on lately is how during the last great period of sovereign debt defaults (1928 through 1933), there was a huge levelling across society.

    Recall that what was notable during those dark days were that income and wealth inequality were also at record highs (much as they are today) and yet by the time the Depression had ended a more egalitarian society had evolved and a middle class came into being.

    So even as millions were impoverished and lost homes, farms, jobs and their bare bone assets there was also an even more substantial correction amongst the holdings of the most wealthy that reduced the severe wealth inequalities that had existed at that time.

    I think this will repeat. A global debt default awaits and I cannot imagine it will go any more smoothly than the last time around. But in the process pensions will be badly damaged and the savings of millions will again be wiped out paving the way for an economic rebirth.

    Maybe this period of time will bring the debt Jubilee that has been so elusive the past many decades. Just remember that one mans ceiling is another mans floor though and the gains of one group are the losses of another.

    Creditors had best beware and ensure they set aside reserves for the cataclysm that is coming because if history repeats or even rhymes the times will change as political and social discord set aside any traditions that have until now been respected. The laws themselves go out the window in the end and recovery is not possible.

    Mar 04, 2015 04:46 AM

    We all need to keep in mind that if the Euro has indeed hit a hard bottom (at least for the moment) that is means crude oil prices are about to turn back up and start rising. Not immediately of course because that is just a reaction to a change in what the dollar does (rise versus the Euro), but certainly within weeks.

    I recall readily how many analysts were shocked (SHOCKED!) when crude went into a tailspin and dropped so hard. But it was not a surprise amongst currency traders who indeed were anticipating exactly that outcome once a firm uptrend in the dollar was established.

    The relationships are not one for one nor are they guaranteed to happen on schedule as some might like but we should never discount the strong traditional relationships between the perceived values of money and commodities.

    Even gold could get a bid although I remain skeptical it will benefit that much as it is still in its own down-trending channel. But lets all get on top of the what the dollar does next as it will impact on everything else in the market.

    The Canadian dollar for example looks to be near a breakout which is a subtle confirmation that USD is about to roll over thus giving support to resource prices and especially oil. So we should be watching that as well as paying attention to what a falling dollar might benefit (or inflict) on other categories of the market.

    Mar 04, 2015 04:18 AM

    What I am talking about above with regards to the end of the bond bubble cannot be adequately understood without reflecting on the past and making a serious attempt to understand history. Once rates have hit zero we are simply out of room to expand credit anymore in an environment of contraction (like what we are seeing now). Debt has also hit its maximum or is near the point of total exhaustion. This is well understood amongst the banking community and most certainly at the highest levels but seems to be a complete mystery to the guy on the street who continues to leverage heavily into the coming period of purgatory. The stupidity of borrowing to buy inflated homes and other assets at a time like this can perhaps be forgiven where Joe Average is concerned and yet no salvation will be offered nor forthcoming to those who have not learned the terrible lessons from the past. We are about to enter a period of reconciliation of the accounts and many will end up losing everything. The highest burdens will be on lenders themselves as the old adage that all debt is eventually paid either by the lender, the borrower or both. And this is why it is doubly important to know what level of reserves your own banks hold because those in the lowest percent range are now at risk. At times like this the Kool-Aid is being drunk by all. The banks themselves, being fully armed with the historical data seem to think they can time the debt correction and escape unscathed. But the past has already taught us many will miss their mark so we must not be complacent in trusting our funds are safe. The Greek threat to walk away from all its debts meanwhile is just a shot across the bow. An early warning sign of what is coming. I suspect they will indeed default although it will not happen this year. But other threats are emergent and the mood of the public needs to be taken into account. Traditional political views are coming under pressure. Old ideas will be swept away. We can be confident that as stress builds that the electorate will have the final say in democratic countries and the mobs will hold sway everywhere else. These are going to be tough times I suspect and the old guard will be replaced with social and political radicalism that is even more dangerous. What can we do but watch and keep our heads down as the dram unfolds and trillions in pension savings across the globe are evaporated along with the deb that enabled thier creation. It is all tied together.

      Mar 04, 2015 04:39 AM

      Birdman,
      What can I say except mainly that you have given us important information to reflect on. This last post might nail down that the US Fed really will raise rates in order to have some ammunition left when there is a further downturn. I believe many others have noted that, probably even yourself. Perhaps those in the know realize this and that is why bonds have sold off this last month. I knew that would happen in the near future but I was not prepared for it now. My bond ETFs are still up pretty nicely on paper,but I had lightened somewhat and will ponder more lightening. Thanks.

        Mar 04, 2015 04:51 AM

        Excellent point Derek. The Fed has already shown us they will indeed raise rates heading into a downturn exactly as you have suggested. It is so they have the ammunition to lower them again later and not appear impotent in the face of a major correction. The pattern has repeated a number of times in history already so we should not assume anything or conclude rates must keep falling to zero or below as they have in Europe. Incidentally, we are heading into a recession in the US and Canada by late summer or fall despite popular media assertions in opposition to that idea. The recent slowdown thus far has been unexpected by most but we had best beware because the pressure within the Fed will be to strike before the fires get hot. Take note though of the recent sharp move up in the 30 year which put us right back into the long term channel (monthly of weekly charts). I think this is going to draw money back into long bonds just as they are set for a decline. Most here will disagree with me because it is now popular consensus view that staying invested in long bonds is a sure-fire way to make money this year…….but I have my doubts!!!!

      Mar 04, 2015 04:40 AM

      Very well detailed post!

      Thanks

    Mar 04, 2015 04:12 AM

    Oh dear or My Gold is dropping again !

    Glen, were you looking for Canadian Gold plus ETF Bulls and Bear funds?

    HorizonsBetaPro S&P/TSX Glbl G Bear+ ETF (HGD.TO)
    HorizonsBetaPro S&P/TSX Glbl G Bull+ ETF (HGU.TO)

      Mar 04, 2015 04:39 AM

      Thanks Biggus

      Seems there are no 3x etf but they have 2x..

      cheers

    Mar 04, 2015 04:13 AM

    Looks like DUST is the buy right now.

    Mar 04, 2015 04:34 AM

    So once again I want to refer those present to the very long term chart on interest rates and then to ponder those times in the past where we have seen them fall to deep secular lows. The coming debt deflation experience of this generation of people is not just one that has been developing for the past 85 years since our Grandfathers Great Depression. Not even close. In fact this particular event has been centuries in the making and we are now at the point where a vast reconciliation is upon us. There will be winners and there will be bitter losers. We had best be aware of those analysts who have taken the trouble to point out how the cyclical behavior of this one single chart is about to open everyone’s eyes and remind us of what is truly value and what is just washing powder trying to clean up the sins of the past. I will tell all of you that I am deeply worried. The reason is that the coming “correction” will not be the usual recessionary experience but rather an historical event not seen in hundreds of years. Demographics and the incumbent extremely high asset values will play a starring role as symptoms of a much deeper sickness where unrepayable debts and obligations are concerned. Money finally matters again. And no, I do not just mean the typical assortment of financial instruments that are so commonly held but rather the earning power of business that throw off an income stream no matter how pitiful it may be during the darkest days that are coming. Money, or rather real income, matters more now than at any time in the past many years. For anyone still paying attention and who is not distracted by the blather of this or that miscellaneous metric that seem so all important each day, you need to know only one thing; this is the termination point of a credit bubble of quite epic proportions and if you cannot service the associated debts you accumulated during the next downturn then you will be a victim of the event, not a winner. Leverage has never been more dangerous. Debts have never been such a risk to our ability to survive the collapse of peak debt that approaches.

    Mar 04, 2015 04:02 AM

    Bird,
    You bring up many good points regarding history repeating.

    I do think the dollar is about to roll over. And that will start the ball rolling for the swiftly changing events.

    I’ve been following the exit of the Bretton woods agreement and the new BRICS system. It looks as if there will be a restructuring of assets, debt and a whole new financial system. It will be a new liquidity creating event globally. I think the only way the fed can raise rates (and they will soon) is for this new system to roll out. Creating a new liquid system where the economy gets a boost. The only way for the fed to raise rates is when the housing and auto industries show better numbers. Something’s got to happen soon.

    I do think we are going to still see the bond bubble later this year which causes the conventional stocks to plummet. And there will be no QE to back up the markets. Joe six pack and the masses will have their 401Ks drained yet again.

    And then the people will demand a governmental change.

    Certainly interesting times…

    Mar 04, 2015 04:16 AM

    I just bought GDXJ at 25.38 and added to two other junior miner positions.

      Mar 04, 2015 04:58 AM

      for a day trade or weekly trade?

      Matt did al send you email?

    Mar 04, 2015 04:01 AM

    Don’t know yet how long I’ll be in the trade. Hopefully a long time ๐Ÿ™‚

    No email yet… ๐Ÿ˜