Good discussion folks. GMOs are bad news and should be illegal. I hope one day soon they will be. At least for our kids sake..

Check out the video links posted below from myself and the 4 from Franky. Some good information on those.

I CALL THAT a ROUND TRIP

product to produce…….

That is terrible and witty simultaneously J…..The Long.

I can’t make myself buy Monsanto for ethical reasons. They have a big headquarters right by me here in TN, but they created Agent Orange that made many of my friends and their children permanently sick in Vietnam.

They are also the ones producing Genetically Modified food grains, and since their seeds are patented, then when they spill over to farmers lands they accuse them of using their patents illegally and seize the farm. Something like 2,000-3,000 small farms have been seized by Monsanto over the last 10 years. They are tied into to all the big brotherhood (Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commissions, Bilderberg group, Bohemian Grove), and are as corrupt as the DuPont family. (they play for the darkside) If memory serves me correctly, higher up in the pyramid of power, Monsanto is controlled by Codex Alimentarius in some unholy alliance.

I am sticking with Mosaic, Potash Corp of Saskatchewan, FMC Corp, and Intrepid Potash. Some of the Lithium producers also have fertilizer components as by-products.

It is very challenging because I know people that work for Monsanto here locally, and despite all the articles, expose’s, and documentaries made about Monsanto, they talk about their great benefit packages. It is hard for a man to see the error of his companies ways, when his paycheck is tied to staying Ignorant (stemming from the word Ignore).

Shad…….I am glad you point that Monsanto ….had seized 2000-3000 farms…I pointed that out over 2 years ago…..to the BIRDMAN…..which said I was like full of….., and did not know what I was talking about. Thanks for the info.

I have been talking about GMO for at lease 7 years …and the impact of what you have described……thanks again for the valuable info.

Monsanto is bad news, and there are alternatives. Sometimes they may get roped up in an ETF I like, but I just can’t support them directly. If you create Agent Orange and Weed Killer, but also our genetically modified Franken-food, then something seems out of wack.

Your Round Trip comment did make me chuckle though.

BTW….not trying to start anything….all has been forgiven……….j

Many years ago I co-hosted a media confab where one of our guest speakers was a woman, Jane Akre, from Tampa, Fla. While working for a Faux (i.e. – Fox) News affiliate, she did an investigative report on Monsanto; specifically its bovine growth hormone (I was familiar with the early controversy over this, given my involvement prior to that with the Grange.)

Monsanto proved what evil bastards they are by how they attacked this woman and her husband and, eventually, bankrupted them (part of the process, you might imagine, is that the Faux News affiliate canned her.)

Some background here:

http://www.projectcensored.org/11-the-media-can-legally-lie/

Shad,

I stand behind you my friend! Great post as usual.

Wow, I hadn’t heard that Chris T., but it doesn’t surprise me with them.

If anyone will spend just a few moments digging into Monsanto’s past, it is easy to find what an evil company they are. There are tons of articles, and documentaries that go into insane detail, yet, there are churning out the poisons for us.

Franky – where are ya buddy with the You Tube videos?

Having said that, fertilizers are the forgotten hard commodity that are the engine for Food – the biggest “soft comodities” on the planet. There isn’t a great commodity space or forum that highlight it like the precious metals, base metals, uranium, specialty metals and rare earths, so usually the lithium miners have some cross-pollination. Fertilizers are also big business for the developing world. It is worth tracking, and currently, it looks like a good place to take a small position in the space so I just wanted others thoughts on it.

Thanks Glen!

Im sorry to sound like a kid but have I been painted by al as the poster child for profanity? I just read a piece on temple and I have nothing against you temple but it can’t be one sided here.

Bird any comments since you wanted police work done on profanity or does temple get a pass?

This is not a recommendation, but the european version of big agribusiness, Syngenta beats Monsanto on all fronts. SYT has a lower P/E ratio, higher dividend yield, better analysts recommendations, than MON.
I personally think both are over-priced, but since QE is starting in Europe, SYT beats MON in my book hands down.

Good thoughts CFS. Yes, any company beats Monsanto in my opinion : – )

As for (SYT) Syngenta AG. It has had a nice pop recently and may have turned the corner finally. Since the beginning of 2013 SYT has been continuously making lower lows and lower highs. The jury is still out on whether the Oct 13th low of $59.27 was the final “bottom”, but it has broken above the old Feb 5th, 2014 low at $67.48 which is bullish. It looks like it wants to challenge the recent Feb 25th high at $71.11.

When commodities make a comeback later this year and into next year, then most of the companies mentioned on this blog today should have a nice up leg (MOS, FMC, POT, IPI, ALLRF, VALE, and SOIL)

I think POT is a great hit…………lol

if you take POT on MON. ,…you have the rest of the week to relax…………lol

oh, Big AL told……………

Smokin’ hot.

told me…..I lost my train of thought…………………

funny.

OK. I’m at a disadvantage without Franky’s amazing You Tube posting skills. I do want try a good Monsanto video post like Franky though. Here goes……

“J….THE LONG…..” YOU MAKE ROUND UP YOU’RE KING. DIS BAD…..MONSANTO NEW KING DAT ROUND YOU UP> HA HA – Buy Gold!! BUY BUY BUY!!!! WATCH DIS NOW!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G5dlNzPnzU

In all seriousness, anyone interested in the story of Monsanto, or just care about ethics, food, humanity, and not being poisoned to death…..then check out the above link.

I HAVE not watched the video yet,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but……THAT IS FUNNY……….LOVE IT

Ha ha! “Cool is the Way” — My favorite Franky quote

I WATCHED……….sad…but true………….j

Long time lurker first time poster…
Great Job you’re doing Chris!! Big Al I hope you’re doing good and return soon to full health!!
There is a part in the movie ‘The Corporation’ on the BGH nonsense Chris mentions in this thread. You can view the entire movie on youtube, but here’s the clip in relation to Monsanto…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZkDikRLQrw

SHAD……franky is going to lov yu…..he might even u tube u………

Well I just figured Franky would have a few You Tube posts for us on Monsanto, or big brother, or something……but……radio silence.

BTW – I’ve never been you-tubed before, and it doesn’t sound very appealing.

Day never STOP ! MONSANTO ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNpmT0W3uyk

AND ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZVw9R1LWNE

AND ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdN3KU4Obd8

BILL AND MONSANTO ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMhvNFnIvTA

Yes!!! Franky is on the case…..

Much appreciated sir!

Anytime Shad. My timing was pretty darn good on this one as the technical setup was nearly perfect the day I left my comments. If you are curious to read those three comments from February this year then here is the link (this saves me from blabbering the same thing again today!).

Oops! The link is here to the Feb 07 show, Shad…..sorry about that.
http://www.kereport.com/2015/02/07/john-kaiser-doc-discuss-state-junior-market/#comments

Wow. You really did post a ton on Allana in that post. Thanks for sharing that.

You mentioned another company on that same thread: Israel Chemicals Ltd. (ICL)

What is their deal, as I went to check them out, and their chart hurt my eyes : – )

Why the big crash?

Not sure Shad….I don’t really follow ICL too closely. But I can dig into it.

Not a big deal, but I just saw where you mentioned that they were major shareholders in Allana. When I went to check out (ICL) it was one of the craziest 2 year and 5 year charts.

This was an interested tidbit from you post that day:

Allana is now involved in a “Potash for Growth” program that is designed to open the way for the advent of widespread fertilization in Ethiopia’s agricultural sector with hopes that the country can achieve self sufficiency in food production.

I figured it out. It is just that the chart kept resetting to $0.00 for certain days (probably due to a lack of trading) and then return to the previous level. It looks like a penny chart pattern, but it is not something I am recommending for sure. Just thought you may no what their story was.

Unless I miss my guess ICL dropped after announcing it was acquiring a big slug of Allana

As for the big crash in price if you pull up a 1 or 2 year chart, it is because on Sept 24th in the Tel Aviv (or Sept 23rd in US) – the price was determined to be set at $7 for the IPO on the NYSE. That makes much more sense after some homework.

Here is the link
http://www.icl-group.com/newsevents-pressreleases/Article/8fe34707-a521-4e1c-b431-c0042be100df.aspx

They have been very active in buying Allana shares lately according to their press releases, and this is what spiked those shares. It appears that Allana may be in their sites for a takeover. Curious…….

OK. I am an idiot and should have finished my research before posting.

ICL is taking over Allana and that is why they are purchasing all those shares. Here is the link to the March 27th press release where ICL is doing the takeover to expedite the Potash mine in Ethiopia.

http://www.icl-group.com/newsevents-pressreleases/Article/54eeea83-0c29-479f-81e0-3bf0a4ed04ce.aspx

Thanks Shad. This is a stock to watch in my opinion. Israel and Ethiopia have greatly expanded economic ties in the past year with a projected two billion of direct investment currently planned in mining, agriculture, flowers.

Ethiopia has become a regional hot spot for the expansion plans of a large number of Israeli companies that would not otherwise have easy access to investing in the Middle East and North African regions. Expect to see a lot more in the future.

Because of its close proximity, short flight times, large Ethiopian Diaspora living in Israel and Ethiopia being primarily Christian and open to outside investment the ties have grown substantially in the last while.

This is one of the reasons I am so optimistic about Allana and view its new mine as being a certainty to come into production. The ICL investment is actually 600 million according to an article that I will link below.

That was why I suggested Al and Cory consider this company for inclusion in their newsletter.

Israel Chemicals to invest $600m in Ethiopian mine
http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-israel-chemicals-to-invest-600m-in-ethiopian-potash-mine-1000939587

I agree ICL will now be the company to watch.

The article you posted on the $600 million investment is from 2014.

Go look at the article I posted from March 27th that I pulled right of the ICL website. ICL is taking over Allana and that is why their shares spiked. It will be $.50 Canadian or around ($.39-.40 US) per share. The US OTC (ALLRF) is trading at $.3854 accordingly.

OK Birdman and Chris…. after finally doing some homework on ICL and realizing that the reason for the apparent crash on the 1 yr and 2 yr charts was merely their IPO on the NYSE at $7 a share (see the link above). Then after postulating like a dummy on the blog that they may take over Allana, and then realizing that they are taking over Allana, then that explains the pop you saw in their share price Birdman. You mentioned you were not familiar with them, but now they are going to be family 🙂

OK, after digging through all the different areas that ICL is involved, and the various segments of their business, I’ve come out of this impressed. I am going to add to them to Fertilizer crew along with (Mosaic, Potash Corp, FMC Corp, Intrepid Potash]

Thanks for the effort Shad. I learned a lot here digging deeper to and you got me on the right track. This one would be in the long term category of course. Even once it comes to production it will probably be years before it returns profits. No matter. I only ask myself what is a typical potash mine worth on a share basis. It’s a lot more than 50 cents once its up and running.

Yes it was a good investigation, however I think you need to read the article about the takeover. The point of the takeover by ICL is that they now intend to fast-track that Potash mine to meet the initiatives in Ethiopia.

🙂

OK I think I got it now LFP. Who would have known a space would prevent the symbol from showing. Thanks!

PS – I recruited Franky’s help from another blog today and asked him to help post videos up above, and he went to town with 4 good videos, so it was a team effort.

but, I all fairness a person does have the right to change their mind………….lol

Isn’t it though? He was against it before he was for it? lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV9oMZE1Qak

That’s true, J, but he will fight to the death someone who tries to teach him. Then, he will adopt his opponents views and make them his own much later when he thinks no one will notice.

You have taken my name man!!!

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course, I usually ignore my wife. So get back to the cooking and cleaning if you don’t mind and leave the business to the men in the room…..and make me a cup of coffee since you’re bored. Two lumps of sugar….. Hey, are you putting on a few pounds, baby?

Let’s all try to stay positive …..for the community……….ya know………..j

Of course Jerry. Mimicry is the greatest form of compliments. So he can use my name if he needs the attention. It just that I cannot stop laughing about it though. Sorry….it is really, really funny. 🙂

For Matthew re the madman: A narcissist feeds on anything before he eventually devours himself.!! Or as Euripedes said ‘Those who the gods would destroy they first make mad’. Hang on in my friend. It’s only a matter of time! Very best, A

Thanks Andrew! Hangin’ on!

So you are asking me to marry your name to make the nuptials complet? Cute Matthew.

Anyway, moving on. When I wrote that interest rates were bullish in my post above I did NOT mention gold. So you have made a mistake interpreting todays comment with remarks from the past.

In fact, rate rises are bullish for the ECONOMY because as they go up they will stimulate borrowing and investment. Notice I am very specific in this post that I refer to the broad economy and not to gold.

Don’t assume anything Mrs. Bird!!!

Now get me a coffee!

This looks like a good place to re-post my response to BB that was rejected by Al.

“BB, you’re out of your mind if you think Bird’s antics aren’t kids stuff OR if you think that anyone in the entire history of this comment section is more guilty of personal attacks than Bird. No wonder you fall for Bill Still; there’s not a rational bone in your body.”

I hope the slower end of the spectrum here is waking up to your dishonesty. Stewart was talking gold and I would bet that Agatha was too; now you’re claiming that you were talking about the economy when you agreed? GTFO.

if the SHTF…….will there be tailfeathers in the mix……..Small Hit Tail Feathers.

Shad, interest rates rose for years and years in the ’70s while gold went up 25x. The reason gold wasn’t hurt by it is that real rates were negative until very close to the end. Gold’s relative value to other assets helped positive interest rates to end the bull market. There were other factors too, of course.

Currently, there is little, if anything, that threatens gold from a big-picture perspective.

What? Is this the 1970’s again? Better get my Bell Bottoms out Headband out of the closet! Boogy Baby. It’s Free Bird all over again. Jeez, I really miss those days. Best times ever despite the inflation. I mean we really ROCKED!

Lynyrd Skynyrd – Free Bird — 1973 …..Hooray!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0W1v0kOELA

The other big reason rising rates didn’t do too much damage is that, back then, there were not about $1.5 QUADRILLION “worth” of derivatives of various kinds that would have blown up long before rates ever got to their peak.

Many comparisons to the 1970’s IMO are apt; and I’m making some myself. But saying the 1970’s is a ratification that interest rates can go up like that and not do major damage to gold (or other assets for that matter) is apples-and-oranges.

In my view, gold would only be fueled by a problem with derivatives. Whether due to massive bailouts or lost confidence, gold will benefit tremendously.

great comment on the gold Matthew………..j

Good points about negative real interest rates in that 1970’s cycle, allowing gold to climb along with the increases Matthew. However I think the level gold would be starting from now and the global economic landscape now are much different animals.

Chris T. I agree with the fact that, while there are some corollaries with the 1970s, we can’t assume the same thing will happen again if rates are raised, and that was a different macro environment compared to now.

I am in full agreement that gold can rise with the rate hikes, but every time it has been threatened by the Fed over the last 2-3 years, then Gold & Silver take it on the chin. Something tells me that the rate hikes will eventually hurt gold and other assets down the road once they are implemented. For the near term all I can see is a token 25-50 point rise maybe in September (maybe never……)

I do also agree Matthew that in the foreseeable future, gold is not under any significant threat from interest rates. It is the dollar that is doing all the pushing around at present, and there are many factors that affect the dollar on a global perspective.