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A focus on the conventional markets – Is the true market top in the future?

April 17, 2015

Gary joins a recently returned home Cory to discuss the conventional markets. With a number of analysts calling for a market correction these same people are also saying that after the correction the markets will move past the recent highs… We tend to agree.

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33 Comments
    Apr 17, 2015 17:25 AM

    Welcome back Cory! Hope you had a great trip and honeymoon…..

    Now get to work 🙂

      Apr 17, 2015 17:30 AM

      Good thoughts on the general markets Gary, and my thoughts are that the decline will just be a daily cycle low,and then the intermediate low will likely be in the fall.

    Apr 17, 2015 17:28 AM

    Agreed..get to work Cory — you slacker…:)

      Apr 17, 2015 17:32 AM

      funny.

        Apr 17, 2015 17:38 AM

        In all seriousness Cory, we appreciate all that you do, and I was surprised you were calling in remotely as often as you did overseas and on your honeymoon. It showed a real commitment and interest in the editorials and that the show must go on.

        Chris Temple did an awesome job guest-hosting, so even though we’ve said it before, thanks again Chris!

        Al has been sounding better and better each day, so hopefully he gets some rest and we’ll hear “for lack of better words….” again next week 🙂

          Apr 17, 2015 17:09 AM

          I’ll second that Shad. Chris was really great and put on a good show.

            Apr 17, 2015 17:26 AM

            Absolutely!

            Apr 17, 2015 17:05 AM

            But lets not forget we are still kind of mad at Cory. The guy put on a wedding wingding so exciting he almost killed Al……Man, can those guys party or what!

    bj
    Apr 17, 2015 17:38 AM

    Our illustrious former Fed Head, Bernanke, joined a $25 billion+ hedge fund–no conspiracy theory here or revolving door. Obviously, this is the payoff for savings his Wall Street cronies at the expense of everyone else–literally! . The Fed and their cronies have destroyed the “free” market beyond recognition in that price discovery is stocks, bonds and commodities no longer exist.

    JP Morgan reported $billions in profits in what some would describe as a dollar carry trade in the treasury market. Free money from the Fed to buy debt to collect a couple of points of interest….and you can beat they’ll know before the rest of us when the jig is up.

    Yesterday, Doc explained that the precious metals market is essentially structured to fleece retail investors–obviously big hedge funds are involved in these gyrations, just look the the thin volume in PMs. Every Warren Buffet called .hedge funds, like the one Bernanke joined, as financial weapons of mass destructions. And where are the regulators tat are suppose maintain integrity in the markets? They’re cashing ijn, just like Bernanke.

    Unfortunately, at some point is whole mess is going to unwind.

    Apr 17, 2015 17:39 AM

    Good to hear your voice again. Hope your honey moon was terrific!

    Apr 17, 2015 17:40 AM

    that was for Corey!

    Apr 17, 2015 17:40 AM

    Cory!
    sorry about the misspelling

      Apr 17, 2015 17:27 PM

      It’s OK….just tell him you were confused… 🙂

    Apr 17, 2015 17:11 AM

    Gold has been moving up when the dollar is up for the past days….and down when it goes down. Not sure if that means anything yet but the relationship might be changing as it often does.

      Apr 17, 2015 17:52 AM

      Honestly the ten is the only USDX component that matter for gold and commodities, and the yen has been weak against the dollar the last month or so. Get ready for the BoJ to drop another QE bomb on the gold market soon. Gold and silver are coiling up for a big move one way or the other though.

        Apr 17, 2015 17:56 AM

        Also meant to say yen has been strong against the usd the last month or so. Another round of Japanese QE could reverse that big time.

    Apr 17, 2015 17:46 AM

    All eyes on the yen. If they do an even bigger QE it could put the hurt on gold and sends stocks to the moon.

      Apr 17, 2015 17:44 AM

      Isn’t their announcement from the Bank of Japan slated for the end of this month on the 30th Spanky?

      It will be interesting to see how big their QE program may be.

    Apr 17, 2015 17:47 AM

    Good thing I sold my XOP above 56 right near the top and should have sold all my other stocks too. Gold is looking dead even with a down market so I got rid of my small gdx position. I have sold all the techs I own and have one left to sell. The S&P is having trouble getting above the 50 day so I would rather hold cash after some good gains.

      Apr 17, 2015 17:16 AM

      Sound like you are in profit taking mode Paul L. Are you expecting declines in Oil, Gold, and the general markets then?

      I was thinking if the dollar is supposed to be going down, that Oil & Gold would do well in that environment, but would be curious to hear your thoughts.

        Apr 17, 2015 17:06 AM

        Gold is looking weak even with the markets falling hard. I took some big profits yesterday when oil hit 57 and I think it needs to correct to around 52.50 to 54 at least before it continues higher but it could overshoot to 50. The xop chart was stretched up quite high. It has gone from 47.5 to 56 in just a month. S&P could head to around 2050.

          Apr 17, 2015 17:09 PM

          Thanks Paul L. Very good thoughts on the oil price and I’m waiting for a pullback as well before going back into related stocks and ETFs. Have a great weekend!

    Apr 17, 2015 17:48 AM

    Sold my apple too as it could not hold the 50 day average.

    Apr 17, 2015 17:22 AM

    Get well soon there Al. Really kicking myself for not taking 11% on gold yesterday. I got greedy. Have to wait it out. Still got a good bear position on gold as plan B.

    Apr 17, 2015 17:54 AM

    Looks like oil topped yesterday and that could drag the whole market down.

    Apr 17, 2015 17:38 AM

    Like I mentioned the other day…..Keep your eyes on Rice as it plummets towards 2009 support levels. We are closing in fast and it will be interesting to say the least if it falls below that support.
    http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/rice.aspx?timeframe=5y

    Apr 17, 2015 17:40 AM

    Also put sugar on your radar as it too drops towards 7 year lows at 10.00
    http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/sugar.aspx?timeframe=7y

    To me these things are important for what it may be telling us about commodities in general….and more specifically the fortunes of gold and inflation expectations.

    Apr 17, 2015 17:45 AM

    If I told you silver needs to revisit 10 dollars would you be freaked out?
    http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/silver.aspx?timeframe=7y

      Apr 17, 2015 17:40 PM

      I would be surprised if Silver got down to $10 Bird, but anything is possible.

      At that level, many mines would be underwater, and I’d pick up a stack of Silver Eagles or Canadian Mapleleafs for $10 any day of the week. Sounds like a good buying opportunity, but I’m a buyer of physical silver at any price under $14.

        Apr 18, 2015 18:33 AM

        I will be buying right along with you if that day comes. What a deal!

    Apr 17, 2015 17:13 PM

    Bird and Shad,

    I think the IMF coming out in the last few days and openly announcing that the world is about to experience another 2008 liquidity crisis event should be taken very seriously.

    These protected and entrenched elite that pull all the levers and make all of the decisions in these globalist banking institutions like the IMF and BIS etc., don’t telegraph such devastating news like this with out such an event being a high probability.

    Further to this discussion is a Dave Kranzsler article that was published in the last 24 hrs that my be some of his finest work to date.

    Dave pontificates about Reverse Repos and the FED’s use of those arcane instruments in trying to stop a massive derivatives meltdown behind the scenes as we speak.

    His article is a must read IMO.

    The implications of another global liquidity crisis the magnitude of 2008 or greater, coupled with a derivatives meltdown which has already started has as expected initiated execution triggers to payout policy holders of counter-party insolvency contractual breaches. The 800 lbs gorilla in the room is these instruments are effectively fraudulent unpayable insurance contracts.

    Combine those two extremes with the mountainous global debt-loads levels and another perfect storm could be just around the corner and is so serious that the much anticipated, but denied, reset protocols may finally be triggered due to a complete loss of control and confidence within the system.

    I’m afraid the commodity complex is not done taking it on the chin if a 2008 repeat is in the cards. Which means even lower prices and a swath of new bankruptcies across the sector will be unleashed.

    V