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    HGS
    Apr 25, 2015 25:27 AM

    Louis needs a better connection… or a mike – hard to listen to.

      Apr 25, 2015 25:14 AM

      And a shave and haircut! 🙂 Just joking.

        Apr 25, 2015 25:20 AM

        I have been known to do that too!

    HGS
    Apr 25, 2015 25:38 AM

    Brien Lunden: it could be positiv or it could be negativ! what a statement, none of these guys know anything. they just do a job to make a living. time to stop paying attention to all of them. the system is collapsing, also all the so called experts. we heard all that crap for years now.
    sorry to vent!

      Apr 25, 2015 25:55 AM

      Venting is good……ranting is even better…………. 🙂

        Apr 25, 2015 25:56 AM

        Oh, well said………… THE BOOT

          Apr 25, 2015 25:09 AM

          What II s this “the boot” all about?

            Apr 25, 2015 25:38 AM

            Best of luck…

            Or..A.K.A. ..the boot !!!

            Me thinks ….wright Frank ?

            Apr 25, 2015 25:15 AM

            You are sounding stronger, Big Al and I bet Doc is taking good care of you.

            But you might want to add ground tumeric to your diet. It is a strong anti-inflamatory. Also, moringa powder (it’s a green powder) and try some flax seed meal to get a lot of omega 3. You can buy the seeds and grind them up.

            Every morning I have oatmeal with ground tumeric, cinnamon, moringa powder, flax seed meal, bananas and a touch of pepper. (The pepper increases the potency of the tumeric) in non-fat milk. I also take 4,000 IU of vitamin D, 1000mcu of Vitamin B12 and 500 mg vitamin C. (Most people are deficient in vitamin D and B12.) Give it a whirl. It can only help.

            Apr 25, 2015 25:19 AM

            Thanks Eddie!

            Apr 25, 2015 25:29 AM

            A.K.A. GOOD ONE ….to boot……….THE BOOT.

            Apr 25, 2015 25:31 AM

            Flax seed and a flax vest…might be recommended going forward. 🙂

            Apr 25, 2015 25:31 PM

            Yes…and maybe a flax seed vest can prevent heart disease and protect you from the future mayhem.

            Apr 27, 2015 27:07 PM

            Funny Ebolan & F…..The Boot.

        Apr 25, 2015 25:05 AM

        I haven’t listened to the show yet but I am thinking this is going to be the squirming promoters show!

          Apr 25, 2015 25:10 AM

          It was not Dave at least in my opinion.

      Apr 25, 2015 25:57 AM

      MINERS need one more good shake out…GET RID OF THE DEADWOOD….. 🙂 the boot

        Apr 25, 2015 25:29 AM

        20 things I trust more than ..O….

        At the 3 minute mark. No disappointments. 🙂

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toPGR8UdhuA

        Enjoy the rant in the video its with much merit.

        Where is the American people’s outrage with all
        the criminals in leadership running our country.

        Damn it, I’m so upset I can’t even type anymore. 🙁

        BTW…Glen Downs did an outstanding job making
        the discoveries that will eventually lead to our demise.
        I will add since he probably never had time is — war.
        We have Washington warmongers who are definitely
        risking all of mankind.

        So if analysts are somewhat confused its understandable.

        IMHO ….and without malice. I know what your thinkin..

          Apr 25, 2015 25:11 AM

          My sentiments exactly, Heavy!

          Apr 25, 2015 25:11 AM

          the American people are still asleep, and still believe in the tooth fairy. Nothing is going to change for awhile. To much side distraction for the sheeple, tv, internet, and apple watches, and a belief things are going to get better, all propaganda from the media.

            Apr 25, 2015 25:25 AM

            Comatose Frank…sleeping is too kind.. 🙂

            However, spot on though. Excellent’e !!!!!!

            Stay warm in Moscow !

            Apr 25, 2015 25:24 AM

            Rare view of some irresistible gorgeous early American dollars.

            My favorites and have always done well these large coins.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErdWDuKQQf8

            For Numismatic Enthusiasts !!!

            Apr 25, 2015 25:31 AM

            Grades are not impressive though. Still old dollars
            are nice and fun to view as with early bust gold
            pieces.

            Apr 25, 2015 25:15 PM

            Sometimes, I wish that I knew more about numismatics.

            Apr 25, 2015 25:01 AM

            Talking about diamonds the other day all dropping in price.

            100 carat emerald cut sells for $22mil. this week.

            Much weaker than expected.

            Hard assets are being gutted. The Cabal wants everyone in paper so when
            it all burns they have nothing.

            Thanks to the Good folks at ..The Central Command Center. (Criminals at work )

            BK all the miners too. Banksters will own everything with unlimited funny money
            to pick up the pieces when the time comes.

            Our tax dollars are funding all this criminal behavior.

            Apr 25, 2015 25:04 AM

            Should have a ’93, Flowing Hair to show case the others….jmho

            Apr 25, 2015 25:15 AM

            YOU are spot on concerning the cabal…..IT is too late, the stone of debt has been cast around everyone neck. ANY BANKER IS NOT A FRIEND.

            Apr 25, 2015 25:23 AM

            Frank, it looks bad. Your right ..The Cabal has plans to rip
            everyone off.

            That coin dealer is a knock off. You tell them, not they tell you…..lol

            Might attend Long Beach Show. Pick up some bargains.

            Coming up here soon.

            If nothing else its an enjoyable visit. Beware of the sharks though.

            Apr 25, 2015 25:07 PM

            Stephen Cohen and experts on the conflict with Russia

            Fresh news and video discussion inside the article.

            Stephen Cohen is the worlds leading experts on Russia.

            A must listen for those who require good solid information.

            http://m.thenation.com/blog/205209-stephen-cohen-even-centrists-are-warning-war-russia

            Apr 25, 2015 25:13 PM

            Thanks Heavy

            Apr 25, 2015 25:20 PM

            Long Beach , always a good show… F.U.N. show in FL, next best.

            Apr 25, 2015 25:23 PM

            HH.. you need to take Al to Long Beach and show him some coins, maybe we could start a COINLAND SHOW……… 🙂 I figure beween you and me, there is about 100 years of knowledge. 🙂

            Apr 25, 2015 25:05 PM

            I don’t know Frank, I hear the F.U.N. show is.. Hot.

            Never been.

            Frank…You could be chief editor of the Coinland Report.

            Set up a …Limited Partnership with Big AL ..open up shop. 🙂

            Fly …Big AL into Long Beach and cherry pick the coins.

            I will be Chief Mugwamp on commission in sales.

            Big AL cuts the ribbon on the first day in business.

            A new born baby…The Coinland Report And Sales LLC.

            🙂

            Apr 25, 2015 25:40 PM

            Latest on domestic military movements. Dave Hodges
            believes they are preparing for a huge event.

            https://youtu.be/5pJ6Y4gdjAc

            Apr 26, 2015 26:17 AM

            Just watching Baltimore rioting tonight. Wait till the wheels come
            off this economic lie of recovery. America is going into a real
            chaotic moment in history. If people don’t see this coming they
            are really dumbed down. Could be wrong but in investments of
            all kinds will start coming into question. Big money is not buying
            the miners as they know whats coming will not be good. Much
            rather have the metal. I believe if its not in your possession, you
            don’t own it. Defaults will be everywhere. Until all this debt is
            restructured and risks subside with a world going to war its no
            time to get cute. Next few years looks all very high risk with
            stocks and paper assets whether it be in miners or otherwise.
            Kiss real estate good bye with major civil unrest. Then we will
            see real damage. The new paradigm has begun. IMHO…

            Apr 26, 2015 26:40 AM

            Heavy I am curious, what part of the country do you live in?

            Apr 26, 2015 26:44 AM

            Big AL….Out here on the West Coast. Southside !

            Drought stricken So. Cal. We did receive a little
            rain over the weekend. Very little though. Today
            the sun is shining bright. Gorgeous out right now.

            Had a friend recently arrive back from Washington.
            My friend loves it there. Just on vacation though.
            Showed me pictures of properties in the country.
            Pristine green absolutely beautiful. My good friend
            wants to move there. I’m more a beach guy though.

            A habit, good or bad I can’t break. And so it goes !!!!

            Apr 26, 2015 26:09 PM

            Interesting part of the country. Your friend is right in that Washington is great. Lot of grey weather though.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:23 PM

            Ha..Ha…shades of gray…no thanks !!!

            Apr 26, 2015 26:30 PM

            You do know that “shades of grey” means that the Northwest has storm clouds and water!

            Apr 26, 2015 26:44 PM

            Interesting, didn’t know that. When I was younger didn’t know
            about the new shades of gray either till I found out later in life.

            Whats with grey ? Shouldn’t it be gray …OK I get it..Grey Goose.

            Popular drink. So we are stuck with spelling …grey. .grey is bla anyway.

            Never liked green either. Green is for square todes. sorry green fans.

      Apr 25, 2015 25:16 AM

      GDP is going to be down…………..jmho

      Apr 25, 2015 25:08 AM

      Don’t be sorry HGS, Louis was on a cellphone and that will not happen again.

      Regarding opinions, I kind of agree, but in these insane times, they are just being honest

      Apr 25, 2015 25:10 PM

      HGS, I was going to write something similar. “I expect GDP to be down & the market to dump, unless it isn’t down much and then the market will go up”. I wonder why he really didn’t cover it all and say the market could stay the same?

    Apr 25, 2015 25:46 AM

    Allied Nevada Gold: Special Shareholder Meeting

    There is a movement of Allied Nevada Gold ANVGQ shareholders who are interested in forming a special shareholder meeting, which would have the legal ability to:

    Replace the board of directors.
    Replace company management.
    Rewrite corporate bylaws.

    This would require approval from 20% of voting shares. Those who are interested in doing so should contact:

    ANV_Shareholder_Rights_Group@yahoo.com

    Disclosure: The author is long ANVGQ.

    http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/14354072-herbert-samuel-jennings/3939696-allied-nevada-gold-special-shareholder-meeting

    Apr 25, 2015 25:07 AM

    “…the almost unfair role that banks play in our domestic economy..”

    Almost?

      Apr 25, 2015 25:13 AM

      I would take out the word “almost”, Eddie.

    Apr 25, 2015 25:10 AM
      Apr 25, 2015 25:46 AM

      Part of AGENDA 21….. 🙂

      Apr 25, 2015 25:31 AM

      Send Hillary to the Big House, not the White House

        Apr 25, 2015 25:13 PM

        Is that how all of Spokane feels?

    Apr 25, 2015 25:04 AM

    Does anybody have a running count of how many junior precious metal mining companies (gold especially) have actually gone to the wall so far including those that have changed their names to things like Cannabis Exploration & Development Incorporated, etc.?

    Apr 25, 2015 25:05 AM

    #6 FOMC and GDP often what has frustrated so many investors is one data point washes out the other, a weak GDP does not necessarily mean a dovish Fed statement to get a decent follow thru both will need to be hawkish or dovish.

    NFP data has been the markets go to regarding rate hike suggestions although the feds have now got traders focused on all US economic data….the fed is between a rock and a cliff as they’ve set themselves up as continued strong economic data will demand rate hike action as you can’t pat yourself on the back from their QE programs yet not react/raise rates while they pump their economic success from QE looking at US equity market performance

    Again very difficult issue as any hawkish tone will send the US$ above 100 heading for the next level of resistance @ 110

    The US$ could have a bigger reaction off Thursday data coming from the BOJ as they have a important interest rate policy release which could send the Yen heading a lot lower and Europe has key CPI and employment data effecting the Euro$ action

    All the above having different actions could have a flatline follow thru after the initial reaction as they all create different cross currents instead of all lining up together getting a one way reaction in gold or the equity markets

      Apr 25, 2015 25:36 AM

      Great observations jj

    Apr 25, 2015 25:07 AM

    Segment 5: It was great to have Louis James on the show today; his statements regarding the smaller producers resonated with me. I agree that Klondex is a very interesting company to consider, as a long-term hold (2-5 years)

    Apr 25, 2015 25:09 AM

    SEG 4 great report.

    bb
    Apr 25, 2015 25:38 AM

    Up to $1 trillion in gold is held by temples in India. Now Modi wants them to monetize this vast hidden wealth

    Workers for the centuries-old Shree Siddhivinayak Temple here spent hours unpacking gold coins, heavy wedding necklaces and lustrous pendants from a closely guarded “strong room.” By the time gold-buyers began mingling with worshippers at the sweltering sanctuary on Tuesday, the jewelry auctioneers were ready.

    “This is not a regular gold coin that you would buy from a gold shop — it contains the Lord’s blessing,” a temple board member said, holding up a tiny coin, probably left by a devotee years ago. It eventually sold for four times its face value.

    Wealthy Hindu temples such as this one are repositories for much of the $1 trillion US worth of privately held gold in India — about 22,000 tons, according to an estimate from the World Gold Council. In 2011, one temple in south India was found to have more than $22 billion in gold hidden away in locked rooms rumoured to be filled with snakes. Another has enough gold to rival the riches stashed at the Vatican, experts said.

    But little of it is contributing to the Indian economy, and now Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government is looking to monetize India’s vast hidden wealth. In coming weeks, the government plans to begin a program that will allow temples to deposit their gold into banks to earn interest and circulate in the economy, rather than sit idle in musty vaults. The gold, officials said, would be melted down and sold to jewellers.

    This very interesting story, which is partly what you already know, but there have been some developments since I last posted a story on this issue—and it’s worth reading if you have the interest. It originally appeared on The Washington Post website, but was picked up by the vancouversun.com Internet site yesterday—and I found it on the Sharps Pixley website.

    What % of 1 trillion in gold would need to go to market to get the price down to $400?
    This has been mentioned before but I didn’t realise there was 1 trillion.

      Apr 25, 2015 25:40 AM

      Many thanks bb

      Apr 25, 2015 25:15 AM

      Deep storage gold again!

      Apr 25, 2015 25:21 AM

      bb,
      Thanks for bringing that up. It’s the repatriated gold coming to market that will cause this massive washout in gold. I think someone has mentioned that before? Hmm

        bb
        Apr 25, 2015 25:19 AM

        I think Bird mentioned it awhile back, it was a story that got mentioned at Zerohedge and SilverDoc etc as well, but what was not mentioned was the amount, 1 trillion I think is huge no?
        I could be wrong but that could be enough to drive the price down, we already have enough supply to meet demand.

          Apr 26, 2015 26:01 AM

          Sounds to me that these numbers are grossly overstated. India has no gold mines. The prospect that they will be leasing everyone’s gold tests the credulity. They have already dumped their central bank gold with barely a budge in price, now they want to lease the sacrosanct public trust.

          A much bigger geopolitical event will be when it’s discovered the JCB had been buying dollars to make their Yen devaluation scheme appear successful.

    Apr 25, 2015 25:43 AM

    Segment 6: This segment also resonated with my current beliefs: Wednesday reports poor GDP for 1Q15 thus forcing the Fed to consider delaying any rate change. Instant May rally for PMs.

      Apr 25, 2015 25:07 AM

      I agree with you…….no rate increase, and poor GDP.

        Apr 25, 2015 25:41 AM

        Me too. SPASEEBA. Any idea what that means?

          Apr 25, 2015 25:24 AM

          Thanks, mate!

            Apr 25, 2015 25:26 AM

            большое спасибо

            Apr 25, 2015 25:17 PM

            I can kind of read it too. Do we share a similar heritage?

            I also have an undergraduate degree in Russian literature. Read em all and loved em all!

            Apr 25, 2015 25:28 AM

            I did ‘O’ Level Russian in 1979-1982 at school. Those were the days of the SS-20 missiles and the TV public information films about taping up your windows and hiding under the table when the nuclear bombs dropped.

            I don’t remember much more! I had better brush up on it in case we go the way of Ukraine.

            Apr 25, 2015 25:21 AM

            good one silverbug………… 🙂

    bb
    Apr 25, 2015 25:10 AM

    Dan Oliver mentions nobody doing anything about Hillarys criminality.

    Is a Clinton in hand better than 2 with a Bush?

    Apr 25, 2015 25:38 AM

    Al And Cory,
    Good show today.

    Bird, thanks for that list.

      Apr 25, 2015 25:23 AM

      Ditto from me.

        Apr 25, 2015 25:39 PM

        Welcome guys. Maybe keep the link. I added it to my bar since it seems to update frequently.

        Apr 25, 2015 25:15 PM

        I have called them and the venture exchange to ask questions. I enter my stock symbols and refresh the page during the day to check how much stock is trading across exchanges. I have called them to complain about the cross trades and how they create intra-day short positions. Maybe I’m wrong but I think the brokers can screw the trader around by gathering trades during the day then having them go through in a cheaper block trade later. Prolly a zero sum game though.

    Apr 25, 2015 25:22 AM

    I am looking at the gold chart in Euros that had been very strong, like a decentl cyclical bull market even:
    http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/gallery.html?s=%24GOLD%3A%24Xeu

    Note the January 2015 high and the lower high in April. Looks like it is consolidating the gains so far (from 867 to 1165 Euros, now just fallen under 1100).

    there was a lot of resistance at 1000 Euros last year. Maybe gold is going back to test 1000 Euros from the upside. At 1.05 USD per EUR, that would be $1050 dollars.

    In my humble perception, the case for $1050 gold this summer is building.

    Apr 25, 2015 25:40 AM
      Apr 25, 2015 25:05 PM

      You have drawn a nice cup for a cup and handle pattern.
      Why don’t you draw a handle on it followed by a nice break out to the upside to finish it off. Why not?

        Apr 25, 2015 25:15 PM

        Yeah Dave. And put some damn sugar in there. We need more sugar!

      Apr 25, 2015 25:02 PM

      With a stroke of a pen…That’s real analysis and hilarious….a gold bugs wet dream.

    Apr 25, 2015 25:40 PM

    Looking at the long term gold chart Dave brought, it just looks as if the 3.5 year pullback is needed for the next long term bull run on gold. It just makes sense looking at it.

      Apr 25, 2015 25:41 PM

      Chartster, I just read another KWN contributor predict $2000 gold by the end of this year—-he’ll be proven wrong just as the well known gentleman from last year that predicted the same figure by the end of 2014. Watch out for 2016—-that’s what my technicals are telling me that the odds are for the gold bull to “start” to hum again.

    Apr 25, 2015 25:37 PM

    I just want to thank HH for the video link concerning Stephen Cohen’s assessment of the Ukranian crisis. Our involvement in Ukraine shows the ongoing hegemony complex within Washington. It won’t end well if we continue to push a conflict with Russia.

    Apr 25, 2015 25:58 PM

    Doc,
    A few days ago I was thinking that the dollar had a run up coming. Right now the dollar looks like it’s going to fall apart. The thing is, so does gold! Both the dollar and gold look very weak right now. I can’t remember seeing it like this before. Something is about to change, in a big way! Everything is different, weird!

      Apr 25, 2015 25:21 PM

      GREAT OBSERVATION………..

      Apr 25, 2015 25:21 PM

      Chartster, good observation. Daily chart—-for the first time time in weeks the RSE has broken below the 50 median line and the MACD for the first time in months is about to take out the 0 line and moving into negative territory. However, the strength indicators aren’t showing a significant move down—-yet. Weekly charts—-for the first time in 7 months, the RSI has broken down from overbought and the MACD line is moving down. Also the strength indicatos of the move up are now turning down. Monthly charts—-these are the most important charts and the RSI is still in overbought territory but is starting to move down. MACD and strength indicators are still trending up. This tells me that we are embarking on just a correction and not a significant reversal in the dollar—-until the monthly indicators varify that this is more then just a correction.

        Apr 25, 2015 25:23 PM

        Chartster; I’m not worried about gold ——yet. There are a number of technical indicators that need to be compromised for me to think we’re going to have a significant move down in gold. I expect further moves down for gold for at least next week and then we have a good chance for a May rally. If we don’t, then we could be in trouble.

          Apr 25, 2015 25:39 PM

          Doc,

          Thanks for the explanation. I always want and enjoy your take on things. Much appreciated!
          The charts are looking very odd to me. And I mean all of them. Globally

      Apr 25, 2015 25:19 PM

      I agree Chartster, that is just what I have been saying for weeks now about the various patterns in gold and USD.

    Apr 25, 2015 25:02 PM

    B Bands are skinny on everything! Indicators are weird from asset to asset in relation to how it usually is. ” something is up “!

    Apr 25, 2015 25:11 PM

    We got some serious moves coming!

    Apr 25, 2015 25:40 PM

    The national Chartster service has issued a….
    ***** BLACK SWAN WARNING ******

    It means conditions are favorable for a black swan event this coming week. Charts are favorable for this to happen. Just like a tornado, it’s unpredictable..

      Apr 25, 2015 25:09 PM

      Given Wednesday, you may and probably do have a point!

      Apr 25, 2015 25:23 PM

      Hilarious. I laughed out loud at that one Chartster…mostly because I already feel the same way.

      Apr 25, 2015 25:12 PM

      Ebolan,
      That is exactly the deal! Totally true!

      Apr 25, 2015 25:47 PM

      Is this really something you just realized Ebolan. I find that hard to believe because you’re pretty well informed.

      This is why it just blows my mind this site continues to waste it’s time highlighting and debating a political system ran by a group of reprehensible lying sold-out freak’s that call themselves Rep’s/Dem’s that does not, and never have given a flying flip about its nations citizens and stopped governing decades ago.

      The United States is nothing more than a deranged, psychopathic, for profit, above the law “Corporation/LLC” that only masquerades as a nation.

      Its simply a “Corporation” at its core, and you and every other “merican” are the property of the “Corporation” and are the key source as a “taxing unit” who will be exploited and hounded into the ground in order to make sure you continue to pay your annual stipend to keep the “Corporation” solvent and the war machine fully engaged.

        bb
        Apr 25, 2015 25:10 PM

        I watched a good interview on the “national” last night.
        Forget his name but he was well informed, wrote books on “blackwater” mercenaries the U.S. government etc.
        Anyway, he had a good idea, he feels that congressmen should wear jackets with the logos of the industries that have bought them. Like race car drivers do.
        I thought it was a good idea.

          bb
          Apr 25, 2015 25:13 PM

          I think the idea was so that we would know which industries and companies we were voting for.

          Apr 25, 2015 25:31 PM

          BB,

          If this national nightmare wasn’t so tragic it would be easy to joke about stupid mindless politicians wearing sponsor covered NASCAR jackets.

          People are absolutely mindbogglingly sleep-walking in denial at where this nation is headed.

          Holy crap, you wait until this freak-show of a gov and all gov’s institute their versions of the cashless paradigm.

          The screeching screams of regret, lost freedoms and inability to ever control your own privately held money and voluntary movements again will be so breathtaking in its implications of pain and suffering.

          But by all means you make sure you make it to that polling both on-time because the “Merican” people had decided that bondage and slavery is a badge to be worn with honor.

            Apr 25, 2015 25:05 PM

            It is called unacceptable, V

            Apr 25, 2015 25:11 PM

            What’s unacceptable Al?

            bb
            Apr 25, 2015 25:20 PM

            I think its totally acceptable, if it were unacceptable people would not accept it.
            Logical no?
            I guess I figure people like to be told what to believe etc, it takes an effort otherwise.
            Obviously I agree with you 100% Vortex.
            To change anything, the whole system has got to crash and burn. imo
            But I do find it interesting we are seeing on msm more often the congress is bought and paid for.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:08 AM

            I have not heard that on msm

            Apr 26, 2015 26:14 AM

            We are almost cash-less already Vortex.

            The vast majority of transactions are already processed electronically across a myriad of public and private networks. For example, in 2013 it is reported that the Automated Clearing House (ACH) in the US run by the bank networks for debit and credit processed almost 40 trillion dollars of transactions.

            That would be Trillion with a capital T

            Cash does not even come close to those levels of usage. And those batches represent just 60% of the countries debit / credit transactions. But it does not stop there. A wide variety of other unrelated processes are at work in the background.

            1) All electronic market trading is done cashless.
            2) Money transfer services account for billions of dollars additional txn’s — Western Union, Moneygram, Wells Fargo etc
            3) Interbank settlement system
            4) Internet payment system
            5) Private TXN’s systems like PayPal
            6) Mobile Phone Payment systems
            7) Automatic Deposit and Withdrawal systems
            8) Wave pay systems
            9) Gift Cards
            10) Discount coupons and advertising specials are also a form of electronic money.
            11) Electronic currency exchange and settlement
            12) International payment settlement systems – BIS
            13) Monetary expansion via Central Banks is 100% electronic
            14) Property sales, auto and land leases, tax collections and miscellaneous assets.
            15) It goes on and on. This list is not even close to comprehensive.

            Obviously some of these systems overlap. My point is that we are already fully computerized and the public has universally accepted non-cash transactions systems. And there are not screams of regret or gnashing of teeth. It’s all rather ordinary to most of us these days.

            So what does cash do other that offer a means to drop the waitress a tip, pay for the bar tab when you forget your pin number, complete hundreds of billions in drug transactions and provide a means to support street beggars, flea market sales or purchases of snacks at late night convenience stores?

            Even the 24 joints don’t want cash if they can avoid it. Notice all the security windows these days at fuel stations? They insist on prepay. Some of them lock their doors after hours and only serve you from the window even for chips and sodas.

            What has actually become foreign is the use of cash!

            Apr 26, 2015 26:38 AM

            I cannot disagree at all with your observations Bird.

            bb
            Apr 26, 2015 26:43 AM

            The “War On Cash” Migrates To Switzerland
            Submitted by Tyler Durden on 04/26/2015 – 06:15

            It is undoubtedly a huge red flag when in one of the countries considered to be a member of the “highest economic freedom in the world” club, commercial banks are suddenly refusing their customers access to their cash. This money doesn’t belong to the banks, and it doesn’t belong to the central bank either. If this can happen in prosperous Switzerland, based on some nebulous notion of the “collective good”, which its unelected central planners can arbitrarily determine and base decisions upon, it can probably happen anywhere. Consider yourself warned.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:28 AM

            This trend is getting bigger and bigger bb

            Apr 26, 2015 26:40 AM

            When the electricity goes out………the CASHLESS will be screwed.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:13 AM

            Of course it will be screwed

            bb
            Apr 26, 2015 26:18 AM

            Bird is right Al, we will go cashless, even if they have to back their “digitals” with gold to do it. As a matter of fact should they back the “currency” with gold that merely makes their control easier for them. That’s explained very clearly by Bill Still.
            Makes no difference when people refuse to accept that point.
            Heck, people refuse to se their government as corrupt, makes no difference.
            Cashless is just another step to slavery, eventually the majority of people will prefer slavery as some already do.
            Heck we are being fed by slaves as it is, very few people bother to care.
            We have 12-14 year old girls stolen on a regular basis and used/sold as sex slaves in every N.American city. Police investigation of it is token at best, not to say those police involved are not doing their best, just too few resources to have any effect. Just not a priority.
            Terrorism is the priority, kinda funny, maybe we should ask the girls if they know what terrorism is.

            Bird is right, we are going cashless, and Vortex is right too.

            I think its cheaper to own slaves when they think they are free, they pay for their own upkeep.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:06 PM

            Interesting last paragraph bb

            Apr 26, 2015 26:32 AM

            Frank, if the power went off tomorrow and stayed off a few months I can virtually guarantee that money will be the last of our worries. Look, people are quick to adapt. We will find ways to trade and barter skills and goods and both retail and labour would barely suffer a hiccup. But if the power is off for long we would be so screwed to every which way to Sunday there would not even be religion left to give us hope. I am talking about heating, air conditioning, pressurized water and sewage systems, fuel that comes out of a nozzle at the gas station instead of being dredged up by a bucket…..total nightmare without power. Hell, most people don’t even own an old fashioned can-opener anymore. It’s all power devices!

            Apr 26, 2015 26:04 PM

            And that is why I stick with old fashion cork screws!

            Apr 26, 2015 26:51 AM

            Good catch bb. I thought I would link the ZeroHedge article you mentioned. We will hear a lot more stories like this in the coming years. But the funny thing is that nobody even needs to be coerced to go cashless.

            The trend is happening somewhat organically and coming at us from a hundred different directions at once. The sources of the cashless system are both public and private.

            Some of it is corporate driven, some evolves out of our love for our mobile phones. A lot of the cashless trade is growing due to the sedentary nature of an aging population who would rather stay at home and punch out money on their keyboards than go to the bank in the snow….and some of the trend is driven by governments, Apps, the financial sector and Central banks.

            So this is an accumulative experience and the public has for the most part embraced it. I sure don’t see many protests. Mobile money meanwhile is taking the Third World and poorer countries of Africa and Asia by storm.

            It is just so convenient that its difficult to resist for average people. And it limits corruption because the bad guys cannot coerce you for kickbacks where they are being recorded on your phone.

            In poorer countries the end of cash is actually liberating where the cops cannot basically rob you in broad daylight by demanding a fistful of dirty paper. So what are they going to take instead? A kilo of tomatoes you just shopped for or maybe your lunch? Maybe your shoes? That only lasts so long. Mobile money is a godsend.

            The War On Cash Migrates to Switzerland
            http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-25/war-cash-migrates-switzerland

            bb
            Apr 26, 2015 26:08 PM

            Published on Apr 10, 2015

            Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) told “The Daily Show” host Jon Stewart on Thursday night that powerful corporations have made sure that every law in the United States protects the “tender fannies of the rich and the powerful.”

            bb
            Apr 26, 2015 26:19 PM

            Hard to disagree with you Bird, I don’t recall cash being used on the international space station and there probably wont be any with the people going to Mars either.
            Who knows tho, maybe they take their I phones.

            You still think its a good idea to keep a shoebox full of small bills?

            Apr 26, 2015 26:31 PM

            By the way bb…that story at ZH about the Swiss Bank that would not turn over cash in such massive amounts does not surprise me one bit. We have to keep in mind that physical cash is now the smallest part of the financial system. Think of it as mere lubrication rather than the actual engine of the money economy these days. Nobody could easily tender tens of million in paper money to a pension fund without a lot of advance notice anyway. Even if they did it would create an overnight scarcity of cash that would impede banking for ordinary citizens who still use ATM’s. And there should be a law against it in my opinion because what that pension fund is attempting to do amounts to nothing less than a bank-run on cash. While technically legal, it is so problematic its hard to believe there would be any reasonable objections to the the refusal. So the refusal will stand and no doubt a law will be enacted to prevent that kind of situation from arising in the future. Look at this another way….what is Goldman or JPM decided to cash out on behalf of all their customers and put 500 billion physical cash in their vaults? JPM alone has 2.7 trillion in assets under management so this is hardly an improbable number.

            Well 500 billion is almost literally all the physical cash in America!

            Apr 26, 2015 26:37 PM

            PS….yes, ordinary people should keep a shoebox of cash during the next few years due to all the risks of systemic failure that may arise. We don’t know what will happen but if you have everything in the bank you could be bailed in and denied access altogether for a period of time. In theory, all money could be socialized for the good of all. I am not saying that as a joke either. One day you could be earning the average wage and the next you and your neighbor are getting exactly equal social payments because all of it is coming from government sources.But is that not a form of communism? It’s been done before….I mean where the state takes control of all land and assets and we are all equalized. Not saying its good or anything…only saying it has happened during a crisis.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:25 PM

            My we jumped from CASHLESS, to have a box of cash…….which is it?…………….LOL

            Apr 26, 2015 26:33 PM

            We are not cashless yet Frank! They are not getting my paper as long as its still good money…oh wait….that’s what the gold bugs say about gold!

            Apr 26, 2015 26:58 PM

            I thought by your below comments …you were in favor of CASHLESS…..by your mention of those events already been in process in Kenya for some time.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:01 PM

            Gold just means honest money, no counterparty risk like cash…

            Apr 26, 2015 26:09 PM

            ANYWAY…….the BANKSTERS ARE DESPIRATE……and the controllers want everything. Trial run is CLEVELAND, as I posted and you pasted the other day…… 🙂

            Apr 26, 2015 26:50 PM

            I am only observing the world as it is Frank. Just saying the obvious I suppose.

            There are two sides to every story too and cashless is not necessarily all bad. I can understand those who worry about privacy being eroded to zero though as an all-electronic system would be capable of monitoring everybody all the time if it was fitted with that kind of software.

            But are we not already being watched and are not governments at different levels and in different branches all being connected together one by one? And are not corporate records, phone company data, internet habits and bank detail all being married under each of our theoretical future profiles?

            This has all happened kind of fast actually.

            It is now possible for authorities to obtain a comprehensive profile on any given individual in any developed country based on their preferences, spending habits, drivers abstract, alcohol problems, medical records, legal history, credit worthiness and personal habits or online posting behaviors via the couple dozen major sources of data.

            And that is just the beginning of the data sources.

            Hell, it is possible for private individuals to gather a treasure trove on each and every one of us if they want to. Look at what private detective agencies are capable of with only minor efforts as one example.

            It strikes me that it is also just a matter of time before we can each be categorized according to all that data in such a way that all humanity might be compared one to another and our very thought processes (as one outcome) might become transparent via computing where they are impenetrable to the collection of sciences that try to understand humanity through groups and testing.

            We are after all creatures of habit. Half machine and half spiritual individuals. But we run in herds no differently than birds or Bison so we must therefore be easy to figure out on computer and mathematical models.

            You know, that movie called Pre-Crime (just saw it btw) is maybe not such a distant idea after all. What if once all the data is processed we discover that we are all programmed and far less individual than we would like to believe we are? What if it really is possible to read our minds?

            And what if we also find out we are merely biological machinery? Varied, yet totally predictable.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:11 PM

            Zerohedge has a great article, concerning Society beginning and ending of each. Controllers always give excuses for needing to be in power, to steal, and force the other members of earth to conform. The beginning is simple, and the rulers always make the end come by forcing other members , until the members move away, and collapse results. We are closer to the end , and a new beginning will result.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:15 PM

            AS franky, would say……..JUST LICK THE BOOTS OF YOUR MASTERS.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:21 PM

            correction……PRODUCTION VS. PLUNDER …PART 4……..FSN.

        Apr 25, 2015 25:49 PM

        Is this really something you just realized Ebolan.

        Oh, I’ve realized this most of my life. And I vent about it and tell whoever will listen that this is a government of the criminals, by the criminals and for the criminals and is the most successful criminal enterprise in the history of the world. And when I say that most people look at me like I am insane and some have actually said that.

        I posted it because I like the way the guy rants and because I think there are still some on this Web site who don’t believe what I said in the above paragraph and still believe in some degree in government.

        But instead of (or at least in addition to) venting I think we should spend more time on this site discussing how we can minimize our victimization by these criminals and of course protect ourselves from the coming collapse these criminals are creating.

          Apr 25, 2015 25:10 PM

          My friend, I knew you very aware of whats going on. I feel you 100%. I was just messing with you.

          I don’t talk about any of this crap with anyone anymore……those days are long gone. Had too many violent emotional reactions to the information from even life long friends. You literally become the enemy in seconds.

          You just wait until those same communist freaks that hate your views have key stroke control over your electronic currency units in the cashless world. Boy that’s gonna be fun!

          Once I meet folks for the first time I just watch and listen and remain observant to see just how deep the brainwashing and dilusion has captured their minds. Once I’ve observed they are fully bought-in to the matrix with no interest to hear any uncomfortable facts I quickly move on down the road without a word.

          Its every man and woman for themselves now my friend.

          V

            Apr 25, 2015 25:32 PM

            Vortex,
            I understand those comments, with certainty , and agree.

            Apr 25, 2015 25:43 PM

            Thanks Chartster,

            BTW, you and the guys have had some great discussions on the miners lately.

            Always a pleasure.

            V

            bb
            Apr 25, 2015 25:27 PM

            I agree, really the political discussions are pointless, nothing is ever going to be changed.
            I have had the same experiences as yourself vortex, pointless to talk to anyone about it really.
            Conversations about how to protect oneself might be “prepper” sites as opposed to economic sites.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:06 AM

            I really can’t agree that political discussion are pointless. I find them to be quite informative.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:25 AM

            Vortex, the State already has complete control, sorry to say. I have a friend who went through a child custody battle that he lost. He was garnisheed by the courts with his employers cooperation after the court gave the child to the mother. The tax department was of course involved. It was so multifaceted in its systemic method even I was stunned at how trapped he was. In the end all he could do was quit his job to escape the hardships of payments to his wife. But it did not end there. He had gone on Welfare in dispute to the costs imposed on him. Ten years later though the bill was not only NOT reduced but had grown substantially in legal fees, interest and court imposed fines. He finally caved and went back to work with a debt many times greater than what was originally judged. To make matters worse, once he began working his wife sought an increase in the monthly payments due to inflation and she got it. He told me later the only way out was death and had contemplated suicide.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:35 AM

            That is such a sad story.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:19 AM

            I personally make it a point to listen to everyone. It’s funny V, but in my world there are many more like minded people. I guess that I am luckier than many others. I will say that it is very difficult to listen to some people.

            bb
            Apr 26, 2015 26:33 AM

            Political discussion may be informative, but lets be honust, they are entertainment only.
            Nothing wrong with entertainment, but the congress is owned, the government, police, courts, etc etc, all corrupt.

            Our only hope now is the American psychopaths don’t start a nuclear war due to loosing influence from so many nations being tired of their murder, torture theft etc.

            We might make a buck or two investing, but look what we condem our grandkids to.
            The cost of those profits are high imo.

            Wish I knew how to fix it. Sure not thru voting tho.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:54 AM

            I kind of agree with what the guys are saying Al. Politics is like Hockey Games. Seen one…..seen them all. Its just the same story over and over again. He shoots!…He Scores!

            It’s why I don’t watch sports. Same damn game every time with different names on the Jerseys.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:11 PM

            I still think that it is poteNt to stay informed on politics.

        Apr 25, 2015 25:07 PM

        I don’t think this site wastes time, V

          Apr 25, 2015 25:16 PM

          I’m sorry Al, but from a political stance it most certainly is because nothing has, can or will be changed for the better. Just my opinion.

          Everything else is great though.

          V

            Apr 26, 2015 26:23 AM

            At this particular moment in history, I can’t disagree with you V as much as I would like to believe differently. That does make me sad!

    Apr 26, 2015 26:09 AM

    I remember a piece when CR said “do you have the courage to buy low?” Just before the meltdown. There are no experts as I’ve said. For people looking to buy this sector you should really understand what you are getting into. Like Bird mentioned San Gold a a zillion others gone titters. There really isn’t an industry where you have such an excellent chance of being wiped out. Be carefull. I personally have no major bullish signs for gold. That said the more it’s hated the better. The Bugs destroyed this bull market with the pumping. It’s only when no one is really paying attention that a bull market can commence. Then again the last bear market lasted for years and years. That never happens to that degree in any other sector. Play safe!!

      Apr 26, 2015 26:42 AM

      Bill :
      To state that the bugs destroyed this market is to general of a comment,lacking basis.
      If you go back to the throws of the precious metals run and retrace the actions of the CFTC,and namely the grandfathering of certain Commercial traders with their short positions was criminal on the highest level.Many of us were positioned for a short squeeze of a magnitude rarely seen only to watch in disbelief as the CFTC nullified all the hours of hard work put in.The Gold bugs did not kill the bull market as you state rather,this was outright manipulation and it is still continuing four years later.

        Apr 26, 2015 26:29 AM

        Good point, John L

        Apr 26, 2015 26:06 AM

        I would say that the gold bugs have prolonged the decline. Gold and silver peaked in 2011 after sharp rises and following a decade run of good luck. Certainly silver went parabolic such that the more experienced people all recognized the chart for what it was and bailed out…..good move on their part.

        Well if the chart foretold that the bull run was over it is only common sense to also appreciate that the opportunity was all going to be on the short side until metals did some retracement. Gold, after all, had been on a particularly long bull already. What the hell really made anyone think that it would not end? And so it finally hit its peak and fell.

        But the bugs were having none of that. They just could NOT accept the run was over.

        And that is what is behind the extremely long period of declines we are suffering now. Any other stock or commodity would have just been sold off as it fell and people would have moved on to greener pastures.

        Not for gold and silver though.

        The bugs bought every dip and shrieked bloody manipulation from dawn to dusk. Then they related countless tales and theorized on why gold was about to stage a huge price recovery. It would take off like a rocket they whispered. A moon shot. And so looking back four years in time we know now that there are literally hundreds of those sales-pitch narratives that did not pan out.

        Every last one of them has fizzled so far.

        Some of those narratives were so slick though that even the sophisticated players were beguiled and started to buy back in again. The Hedge Funds got clobbered senseless more than a few times for prematurely getting long metals and miners when they should probably have been concentrating more on what was actually making money.

        But this is how the gold bugs kept the game going. And in the process they all shot themselves in both feet. Because instead of allowing gold to just fall and hit its bottom they kept prices afloat for far longer than is seemingly probable making this particular agonizing bear market perhaps the longest of any ever recorded.

        You would think the irony would dawn on a few of them. But no….they are still at it today even as the vast majority of their fellow gold bugs have lost fortunes and some have sworn off metals for life due to exceptional losses.

        It was three years ago now that I first said the tree would have to be shaken until all the nuts fell out. I am referring here to the gold extremists of course; not to any of the fine members of this website who are for the most part investors and not rabid lunatics!

        Anyway, as soon as the last of the die-hard bugs are driven out of this market the sooner it will be able to recover and go higher again. Between now and then we will see a few sickening drops on the way to the final bottom.

        Hey, one is coming right up btw….. Brace yourselves…..and lets get it over with.

          Apr 26, 2015 26:19 AM

          Where would you put king world news and letter writers like Bo Polny in this equation, Bird?

            Apr 26, 2015 26:01 PM

            They are in the business of promotions Al and they have a loyal following even if it is a lot smaller now than in the past. Guess there really is a sucker born every minute. Gold bugs were some of the easiest people on earth to milk because of their blind devotion to a golden idol. Must be the easiest way to make a buck for those with no conscience.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:13 PM

            And there is the key. ABSOLUTELY NO CONSCIOUS. Thanks for echoing my thoughts.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:03 PM

            Sorry man, that was not a comment about Bo or KWN…… just a general comment about the gullibility of a select crwod of investors who got blinded by the lights and taken to the cleaners.

          Apr 26, 2015 26:42 AM

          Birdman :
          The question is not wether the bull market in precious metals came to an end but rather why?
          Of course the run was over.The charts don’t lie.
          Go back and look when the CFTC started enforcing position limits.
          Coincidence.
          I think not!

            Apr 26, 2015 26:06 PM

            Probably not a coincidence. But gold would have fallen anyway after such a long bull market. That was a decade for gosh sakes! Was it not enough? Its just a shame metals were not allowed to get to their bottom more naturally and without so much resistance. If the bugs would stop fighting the tape this might all be over soon.

          Apr 26, 2015 26:08 PM

          Devotion to a golden idol ???

          Same applies to USDX. More idolatry to dollars than gold. 1000 X

          I completely disagree…. “BIRD” !!!!!!!!!

          When it all comes crashing down..long..long term ..dollars
          will be TOTALLY WORTHLESS SCRAP OR CRAP !!!!

          A debt based currency !!! Wooopeeeee ! I’m real impressed.

          All computer digits. REAL WEALTH !!!! LOL..LOL..

          Absolutely hilarious !!!

          Gold Bear Propaganda. ..continues unabated. hee..heee

          Time to go LONG…

            Apr 26, 2015 26:21 PM

            USDX is all predicated on the US Military Industrial Complex.

            When it fails and it will..USDX will be worth less than …Dirt Fill.

            So enjoy your USDX while you still can. Its doomed !!!

            They will continue to cram it down all our throats…forcefully too.

            NWO is here !! I’m not going along with it and will fight it to the end.

            Proud member of ….The Midnight Gardner Society.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:34 PM

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ

            Rage against the machine. And The Beast

            Apr 26, 2015 26:43 PM

            I was of course referring to those gold devotees of the past who simply could not accept gold does two things…it goes up AND it goes down in price. At the time it came back to earth it was overpriced, overbought and overdue for a correction. Gold was not fairly representing true market value because it had attracted the speculative elements that pushed its price outside of normal ranges. Whats weird is that so many of the gold miners themselves became part of the crazy speculation and most did not have the common sense to hedge at much higher prices. Just shows that people are still in charge. A computer would never have made that mistake. Where was Hal when we needed him?

            Apr 26, 2015 26:08 PM

            Well sure, those devotees may of got caught up in the hype.

            Still, we have a very lawless and corrupt system. If we had
            honest money people could save and collect interest too.
            Like we had and inflation was extremely non existant and
            tame. Most people are not capable of speculating. We have
            dishonest markets too.

            Clearly the case now. Its all runned by a bunch of criminals who
            now are coming to destroy all our freedoms as well.

            Its a outrage and those who do not stand for our freedoms will
            be devoured. They won’t and our nation is going to fail.

            So its either bring back gold (never going to happen) or be devoured
            by the machine/beast. The latter is not an option for me.

            Americans will fight but not enough of us to win. Still, we will die for
            our freedoms and rights.

            ITS TIME TO RAGE AGAINST THIS EVIL MACHINE.

            Unless one wants to be a puppet on strings. ..THAT’S NOT ME.

            No, not a paddy boy either. Tell Hal before you bring him in.

      Apr 26, 2015 26:33 AM

      Interesting observations Bill. And a bit on the accurate side I might add.

    Apr 26, 2015 26:39 AM

    in regards to segment six comment abot lowergsa prices stimulation is a false flag to follow its nice to save a few bucks but its a far cry from overcoming overall inflation

    do you see prices at the grocery stores dropping with the price of gasoline remember when 10 years ago oil spike and it went through every consumer products in the store let see some deflation in material goods or is that now profit for the suppliers

    in other words i do not see cheaper oil helping any where but the pumps. that big

      Apr 26, 2015 26:48 AM

      Chris nothing is dropping at the consumer level. Ferries. Hydro. Food. Gone up. Airlines not going down. Profits increase and the system survive while folks eat it. SOB

      Apr 26, 2015 26:31 AM

      Interesting point, Chris.

    Apr 26, 2015 26:35 AM

    We might see a drop in GMO food prices pretty soon , as the sheep are starting to snap out of stupid regarding the food they are eating.
    ( Monsanto might be a good short soon… Lol )

    Apr 26, 2015 26:03 AM

    wouldn’t it be great if Monsanto went bankrupt.??

      Apr 26, 2015 26:24 AM

      Probably not going to happen Agatha.

    Apr 26, 2015 26:28 AM

    Key word ( probably )

    But it would be as good as a hole in one.

      Apr 26, 2015 26:12 AM

      Yes Chartster that is the key word!

    Apr 26, 2015 26:09 AM

    There will be that day when the pendulum swings, and all the mothers of children and grand children wake up to the fact they are feeding their kids toxins. And when momma ain’t happy, nobody’s happy!
    Karma will catch up to Monsanto, guaranteed!

    Apr 26, 2015 26:11 PM

    The government wants tight control over PM’s as they plummet. And this is just in the last few years. Not only that but J.P. Morgan has be acquiring a huge stockpile of silver. Who knows how much others really have(banks , Russia , China). Seems to me something just isn’t right with this.

      Apr 26, 2015 26:22 PM

      Maybe the end of cash really is coming sooner than we think.

    Apr 26, 2015 26:28 PM

    A lot of unintended consequences with a no cash society.

    Apr 26, 2015 26:52 PM

    Michael Pento on the outlawing of cash…

    http://kingworldnews.com/michael-pento-4-25-15/

      Apr 26, 2015 26:28 PM

      He sounds freaked out, Ebolan. Then again, he is one of the first people I have heard REALLY objecting to the idea of a cashless society. Seems to me it’s pretty much too late though because this trend has momentum and looks unstoppable now. Funny how this just got on the radar in the last little while even as it has been simmering in the background for decades already. But when Kenya went virtually cashless in a short period of six or seven years and when mobile payment systems began to dominate there it suddenly has dawned on people everywhere that….OMG…..that it can happen in every country.

      A long time back I wrote that a cashless system would mean the end of the era of bank runs (before Martin Armstrong said it btw). And that is just a single facet that makes this idea incredibly appealing to the Financial Industry.

      Not to mention they might be done with hundreds of thousands of clerks whose primary job is counting out wads of dirty paper. Without cash you don’t even need people at the teller wickets in banks anymore.

      No more Brinks Trucks
      No more armed guards at the doors
      No more need to the kind of security systems that only cash requires
      No more night boxes
      No more bank robberies.

      You just know this this going to happen. It is just a matter of when, not if…….

        Apr 26, 2015 26:50 PM

        This is truly scary. If Mao had this technology, China would be like North Korea. You have no means to fund rebellion, no way to escape tax, no way of self sustaining yourself. Government has total control. I would consider to move if this happens. For our generation who had experienced dictatorship, cashless society is truly scary. Dictator is afraid of rebellion. If there is no rebellion, government can do whatever it wants. They can confiscate 99% of your earning and you can do nothing.

          Apr 26, 2015 26:52 PM

          There is no better tools than cashless society for elites.

          Apr 26, 2015 26:24 PM

          The following Chinese news story shows how thousands of people beat up market police who injured a bystander trying to take a video showing police mistreatment of merchant. It is this kind of rebellion which turned an authoritarian society into a civil society. I just came back from China and I am very impressed.

          How many people are killed by police every day in US. How many times three are people willing to beat up the police. Burning shops is not rebellion. It is rioting. People hurt themselves not the authority.

          http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzA4MTE3MTgyNA==&mid=206206129&idx=3&sn=a11e8e7d6de0aab8f815ee56c0c6bdc7&scene=2&from=timeline&isappinstalled=0#rd

          Apr 26, 2015 26:58 PM

          It’s a brave new world Lawrence. And we have already arrived there. The thing is, nobody seems capable of stopping what is already in motion. Cashless ideas are not mainstream news.

          There are not political parties springing up demanding cash be saved as a payment method…there is no public outrage or protest movements attempting to stop the growth of electronic money formats.

          Certainly none with any popular following. Incredibly, it is the gold bugs who would be the true defenders of paper cash because it is they who seem most concerned with civil rights, privacy and the restoration of free markets and less intrusive government.

          But they are what?…maybe a percent or two of the population at best. They have no voice and no platform either. That is how it looks to me. To be more precise; there is no pop movement that has captured the public’s attention, no caucus within political parties that has taken up the flag and no appetite even amongst voters to roll back the clock on financial technologies.

          We are simply evolving into a paperless system and I think it is an organic outgrowth of our love for technology itself.

            Apr 26, 2015 26:41 PM

            Nice words about gold bugs . I am not gold bug but I can relate to most of their beliefs. You seems not having a favorable view about them. Is it because you are against liberty? Just curious, I can not find the reason.

            Apr 27, 2015 27:54 AM

            I am against all forms of extremism. That includes people who think that rolling back the clock on technology and returning us to hard money and barter systems are doing everyone a big favour. Secondly, I do not agree with how they frame their particular rebellion nor the way it is expressed in revolutionary terms.

            Do you agree with those people?

            Apr 27, 2015 27:06 AM

            Oh come on, the shorts are burning.

            IT WAS A LONG TRADE !!!

            Its all sideways market. Paper trading does not work.

            Call your gold market and get your stops in.

            Ha..Ha…losing money everytime.

            What you think this is anyway ????

        Apr 26, 2015 26:31 PM

        Birdman, you are a troll, but the stupid people who read your posts, can’t think for themselves.

          Apr 26, 2015 26:37 PM

          Even Al agrees with you, how stupid is that?

            Apr 26, 2015 26:44 PM

            DT Duck in and duck out my friend! best, A

            Apr 27, 2015 27:37 AM

            So you are Andrew are saying Al is stupid and I am a Troll. I see.
            Let it be known you broke the peace after a week of no conflict on the site.

            Anything else you care to add since you have lowered yourself to name calling?

            Apr 27, 2015 27:06 AM

            Never mentioned you BM.

            Apr 27, 2015 27:30 AM

            Of course not. Ducks are not birds. How foolish of me.

            Apr 27, 2015 27:38 AM

            I think it is more like two weeks.

        Apr 26, 2015 26:28 PM

        Not so fast Birdman The robbers may request you download the funds into their smartphone account LOL

          Apr 26, 2015 26:03 PM

          A fool and his money are always parted. Nothing ever changes in that regard!

      Apr 26, 2015 26:28 PM

      I AGREE 100 % EBOLAN ! TOTAL CONTROL ALL YOU ARE !

    Apr 26, 2015 26:05 PM

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      Apr 26, 2015 26:09 PM

      Franky, could you please translate this?

      Apr 26, 2015 26:08 PM

      THANK u ! LPG !

    Apr 26, 2015 26:13 PM

    HEAVYHITTER Thanks for the Stephen F Cohen interview!
    I head him and Vladamir Pozner debate Anne Applebaum and Garry Kasparov on the CBC Monk Debates about the crisis. Very enlightening link= http://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-new-russian-front-1.3042616

      Apr 26, 2015 26:23 PM

      VLADAMIR ? JEUWS ? THE MIDDLE EAST – ? STOP OK !

      Apr 26, 2015 26:20 PM

      Confused, thank you for the link and your comments. I’m highly
      interested and concerned as NATO is provoking an unthinkable war.

      Going to listen to it now the link you provided. If you have anything
      that is solid good information please post it. This matter is one of
      my top priorities because it is very serious. Cohen seems to be good
      reliable information. Much appreciated and thanks again. 🙂

    Apr 26, 2015 26:27 PM
    Apr 26, 2015 26:53 PM

    HH,
    The battle for the Ukraine won’t start a war. But it is a battle for assets and banking.
    Maybe Al can get a CFR member on to tell us about how they see it happening?
    Heh heh, kidding Al..

    Apr 26, 2015 26:24 PM

    Chartster, really Ukraine is just a stepping stone to
    dismantle Russia because Russians stand in the way
    of the evil NWO. They refuse to sign on.

    Its extremely complex all the moving pieces but its not
    difficult to figure out they want war real bad.

    How much destruction comes with it and how severe is
    unknown. You can’t continue to build up NATO military
    with lethal weapons without starting something serious
    on Russian borders. All of North America is in great peril.

    GREAT. .GREAT PERIL !!!! IMHO…

    Apr 26, 2015 26:50 PM

    Since the forum is going out of vogue may not be for everyone.

    THE ANIMAL FARM FOR MODERN MAN …by my dear brother Nathanael

    He’s a very good man

    http://brothernathanaelchannel.com/watch_video.php?v=1097

    Very well connected with Isreal and Russian Orthodox Church.

    Apr 26, 2015 26:35 PM

    Maybe we should ask John McCain to come talk to us about war? I’m sure he has a good argument. Haha
    I was just saying that cause he spent time with the leader of ISIS and might have the inside track. Maybe we can get him on the forum? For a question and answer ?? No??
    Oh, , okay , never mind ..