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More TPP coverage plus a discussion about the shift in business executives mentality

June 8, 2015

Doc joins us to cover the Fast-Track / TPP topic that was brought up by Chris. We all have concerns over where this agreement could lead the country. We then move into the way corporations are run and how that is hurting the average American.

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48 Comments
    Jun 08, 2015 08:20 AM

    Doc, you are absolutely right. Our government is totally corrupt.

      bb
      Jun 08, 2015 08:39 AM

      Yes the government is corrupt, kinda obvious now for years(from about 1913 anyway) to anyone taking the time to look into things.
      Thing is very few people care enough to bother to even look into it, much less actually care about it.
      Think about it, how many times have people literally sacrificed their own children for this corruption? Geez, as recently as Iraq, now we look at Ukraine Syria and more Iraq, lol
      To fight guys we created ourselves, just to create a profit. And look how many people eagerly go. Should the west decide to send troops to Iraq again, parents will send their kids no problem, and the kids will be gung ho.
      Might be we should forget about the corruption, nobody cares, people literally sacrifice their own kids to perpetuate it, that’s wanting it pretty bad if you ask me.

        Jun 08, 2015 08:57 PM

        Remember my comment about the new business paradigm?

    bb
    Jun 08, 2015 08:30 AM

    The way I see things is we don’t really know if the west is in opposition to the east etc.
    We (or I anyway) still don’t know if its all the same bank or not.
    The wars,all planned for profit, really has nothing to do with opposition, not at the most profitable levels anyway.
    The moving of gold west to east is merely a consequence of a change in reserve currency.
    A new world order, just as we had a new world order at Bretton woods.
    Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

      Jun 08, 2015 08:58 PM

      Again remember my comment a bout this?

    Jun 08, 2015 08:46 AM

    BYE BYE………AMERICA AND APPLE PIE………NO body would listen to ROSS P…….

      Jun 08, 2015 08:58 PM

      No more Apple pie?

    Jun 08, 2015 08:45 PM

    Im all for having Postma on twice per show per day…
    TPP is a disaster for America…
    Conspiracy, corruption, kleptocracy yes.
    Great Postman interview today

      Jun 08, 2015 08:18 PM

      ditto……….on TTP…………

      Jun 08, 2015 08:35 PM

      Thats what everyone asked for. Too..funny.

      God said, you don’t want me in your lives
      anymore and you kick me out of government.

      Now, you have really planted the seeds of
      corruption.

      Welcome to ..JADE HELL.

      I warned on TPP last 12 months and said it
      was a disaster. You people mocked.

      America is the great whore Jezebel. BABYLON.

      Total destruction is not coming, its already here.

      Next 12 months will be the worst in mankinds history.

      Its too late to wake up. The road is paved to hell now.

      Jun 08, 2015 08:59 PM

      All great with him.

      Jun 08, 2015 08:27 PM

      Agreed. Doc is the man. Good points today Al/Cory/Doc.

    Jun 08, 2015 08:02 PM

    My view – not sure if it is correct – but I think that if you have moved manufacturing operations from the Western world to the Far East, then the manufacturing expertise and culture eventually moves in that direction. It has to because the people with the actual experience of manufacturing, tooling up and implementing new processes will become those in he East and the people left in the West will become remote from that process. how will the West then know how to do research and development? Once the manufacturing transfers, eventually the R&D will.

    Jun 08, 2015 08:02 PM

    America is the great whore Jezebel. BABYLON.
    Probably just one of the daughters and a seriously deceived one at that.

    Jun 08, 2015 08:19 PM
    Jun 08, 2015 08:02 PM

    Doc-

    Thanks for bringing up the H1B visa but folks really need to understand how bad this program is. They are suppose to use the H1B program to fill jobs that no US resident applies for or is qualified for. What they do is create advertisements for super workers that no one can actually meet then say no resident with the skills needed were found then hire somebody from usually India at a salary lower than they would have to pay a US worker. Of course the hired person doesn’t have the specified skills either but the initial job listing was a joke anyway.

    The other scam folks need to know about is the “Guest Worker” program where they rotate foreign IT workers through the US to “learn the business” then send them home. In this program they really don’t pay them a “wage” – just a stipend to live on while in the US working 50 to 60 hrs a week. So, they haul in a group of IT folks from India over and they take over US jobs then stay in the US for 6 months and then go home. Before they leave they train then next group from India and on and on it goes. Disney is the newest player in this game. They are laying off 250 people in October and their jobs will be taken by folks from India. To make matters worse the US workers/citizens will be forced to train the folks from India how to do their jobs.

    The ultimate pisser in this whole mess is that the same &^%*(! that support things like NAFTA or TPP produce gallons of alligator tears about how they want to train “displaced” US workers in areas like IT so that their jobs can taken away and given one day to H1B visas holders and “Guest Workers” at places like Disney.

    Jun 08, 2015 08:10 PM

    Al

    You asked why the Unions weren’t on a war path – well they are but they are not the force in US politics you think they once were. I can predict one thing for you right now – there 17 or 18 Dems in the House that are willing to sell out the American people to corporate interest. Many of them got elected with lots of Union Support. That won’t be there for them next time they run and they will loose. Remember what happened after NAFTA – many Dems lost seats all over the Midwest. This will just finish the job. But Docs was right – those folks are owned by the same corporate interests that own Obama and the vast majority of other DC lowlife and when the Corporate Masters call they will all come-a-running – the American People be dammed!

    Jun 08, 2015 08:21 PM

    What do you think…??? This is..OBAMA.NATION.

    HELLO !!!!! This is not a sign or what.

    American Pharoah. .won the triple crown.

    Just not America will come under judgment but the world.

    America has exported and corrupted the world.

    The Vatican is an evil monster who is bringing in the
    anti-christ and NWO.

    franky is right….good video too…me laugh. Thxs.

    OK..NOW…believe me…I know whats coming.

    Hell on earth. ..dreaming needs to..STOP.

    ALTO !!!! knock it off. This is real. Trust me.

      Jun 08, 2015 08:41 PM

      Here’s the problem.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXoNE14U_zM

      I’m like a race car in the red in here…man….

      and ready to BLOW….

      You guys can’t handle the truth. That’s the
      problem.

      Not a M.P. but that’s a Y.P.

      OK…step aside I’m coming through.

      Open dem Barn Doors. … Ha…Ha…sucka’s

      J/K… you keep pushin….maybe not.

        Jun 08, 2015 08:41 PM

        Jerusalem has already been divided by US supreme court and
        the Vatican.

        One more reason to be very afraid. Judgment is here. This is
        the worst thing that could have happened.

        Of coarse, most, if not all of you would say…so what !!!

        Just proves how spiritually disconnected mostly everyone is.

        And the road to hell is now paved. Keep your wet dreams
        alive but total destruction will arrive soon.

        One word…hint…hint…OBAMA.NATION.

        That didn’t happen by accident my friends.

        Look at what he’s done and what he is going to do.

        Still can’t see it…then by all means you are. .COMATOSE.

        Beyond help. Hopeless and dumbed down to the ground.

          Jun 08, 2015 08:58 PM

          Anyway….your all wrong…..your wrong…..your wrong…..your wrong.

          I’m right…..everything else is …horse pucky !!!!

          You say, get out of here !!!!!

          I say, only a fool would believe I’m wrong.

          Only a fool would bet against me.

          The wheels will start coming off the bus in several months.

          From there, its straight down into a death spiral for at least 12 months.

          Crash…bang …boom…and a big splat….

    Jun 08, 2015 08:36 PM

    What about the price of agricultural commodities are they going to end up declining significantly as well, the government will have it’s hands full just trying to help the farming community from bankruptcy proceedings, I hope I’m wrong but this could get much nastier then most realize.

      Jun 08, 2015 08:59 PM

      Excellent question DT. Devastation will come in many forms.
      Food is the better choice to focus on but at what point.

      Timing is everything. Personally, I’m hanging neutral with it
      all. Not making any bets. Frankly, don’t care. At the end of the
      day people will have to pay their money and take possibly huge
      risks. These kinds of collapses will no doubt wipe most of us off
      the map. Its assured. Not looking to get cute. I said many months
      ago all investments are at high risk. Rare exceptions but those are
      like lotto tickets. Still, those gains will all be lost in the future. Banking
      crisis etc. Gold may have a huge fall too. Nothing will be safe.

      IMHO….maybe invest in making moonshine 🙂

      Ha…Ha…the crap shoot and poop chute begins.

    Jun 08, 2015 08:54 PM

    Cory:
    Innovation can’t create a couple billion new jobs…..To some extent, robots are an example of extreme innovation, but they’re taking us backwards, in the employment scene.
    Al: It is good for the USA corporations. That’s who they’re referencing when the pros argue that we should pass it. The people wheeling and dealing in these negotiations couldn’t care less about the working stiffs of the world, including those of us who exist here in the U.S. of A. Those left behind will be foisted onto the gov’t in one form or another. And don’t forget, the old trickle down won’t work any better in the future than it has in the past.
    Finally, I want to remind all posters to speak softly when you’re referencing corporations. They’re really people, after all, just like Romney said!

    Jun 08, 2015 08:47 PM

    Wow Guys, you just keep nailing these discussions!

    Three thoughts about the TPP.

    1. What we don’t know about it most likely means it’s not good, but we don’t know.
    2. With the US corporate tax code proposed changes with a dollar that should goto around .72, and combine that with some of the trading partners currency increasing in value. Could that bring manufacturing jobs back to the US?? I think it could.
    3. Part of bringing the NWO down is to level the playing field between the US, Russia and China. The US and certain European/Israeli factions are the NWO.

    I like for the US to be on top, but not at me and my families expense.
    ( just something to ponder )

      Jun 08, 2015 08:34 PM

      pondering…. interesting thoughts Chartster.

    Jun 08, 2015 08:06 PM

    What my point was that I might not have made was. The dethroning of the US and the rise of Russia and China insures the success of the fall and end of the NWO ( new world order )

      Jun 08, 2015 08:45 PM

      I only disagree in the sense that the NWO is really a collection (club) of people without the slightest interest in Nationalism, and they (Rockefellers & Rothschilds & Duponts) have globalism in mind. The stair step to globalism is large trade unions, a currency crisis the leads to a single global currency, and a micro-chipped populace.

      They could care less which of their puppet leaders or countries are in charge, as that is just the soap opera for the people. There are many that say the Empire State is the 3 cities of (The District of Columbia = miltary), (The Vatican = church). (London = Bank). I think this Empire State theory is a little overly-biased to the West, and neglects the rising influence of the East.

      Regardless, it isn’t about a country or East versus west. It’s about globalism, and all this business with the Trans Pacific Partnership and the AIIB is just a stair step process to control large trading zones. Welcome to 1984 where they had 3 main “zones” the world was divided up into.

      Spend a few minutes looking at these conspiracy (coincidence) theory images and you’ll see the general pattern of the power hierarchy.

      https://www.google.com/search?q=illuminati+hierarchy&biw=1536&bih=792&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Ym92Vdz9BoulsAW1tYGICg&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

        Jun 08, 2015 08:52 PM

        The best way to combat this rising New World Order is to deal & trade with people on an individual level in an impeccable way, and focus on your immediate community, which telescopes out to the larger global community.

        I spent decades lecturing at events on how all of these brotherhood networks are connected, and showing it isn’t a “Theory” it is “Fact”, but the average person has a very hard time digesting it all, and the mind clings to what it knows, so it lashes out at anyone that presents it a different pattern.

        It is a dark subject matter to wade into, and about 10 years ago, I decided to start focusing on what I could control – my interaction with people one on one or in small groups. I stopped worrying about the globalist agenda or the far reaching implications of Agenda 21, and started focusing on how I could impact my neighbors, friends, family, and develop our own systems of exchange, support, and positively impact our local communities.

        Good luck to all in these times, and with your knowledge be a candle or a mirror.

          Jun 08, 2015 08:55 PM

          As for trying to convince other people of the track that we are on, I gave up trying to convince anyone of anything, until they ask and genuinely seek the knowledge.

          “A man convinced against his will, remains an unbeliever still.”

    Jun 08, 2015 08:25 PM

    Here’s a preview of golds future. Expect a rally into wed.
    and then a big fall for the the remaining time into next
    week.

    Gold is going to fall on hard times unfortunately. Oil
    does not support gold at these prices.

    Jun 08, 2015 08:33 PM

    Holter and Sinclair are 2 dangerous men together.

    Sinclair is a drunk pumper. I go back when he first
    started and now he’s nothing but a snake.

    Its getting desperate. Sprott is another atrocity.

    Jun 08, 2015 08:41 PM

    FYI…Everyone…TPP gives Obama control of the EU.

    Not only that he can make decisions without anyone’s
    approval and control everything.

    Be very careful because many are looking at past history
    and you will be cut off at the knees with investments.

    He will call all the shots in the western world that includes
    guns, water on your own property, gold…etc…everything incl.
    your dwelling.

    If you don’t know, you know now. Its going to get very ugly.

    Jun 08, 2015 08:04 PM

    Click here for current conditions and check yourself.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goQgXxCiEW4

    The needle was all the way down on the left
    when I click on it.

    Why, because even when I lie, I always tell the truth.

    Jun 08, 2015 08:54 PM

    franky…..alert. be careful.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QehZjjwb7-I

    NWO trick….Gotham no safety now.

    No sleep….you go…run… Nite !!!!!!!