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Big Al
June 24, 2015
 Crying Wolf?

Posted June 24th, 2015 at 10:11 AM (CST) by  & filed under Bill Holter.

Dear CIGAs,

We have all from time to time tried to help others, friends and family, by pointing them toward reality. For our troubles and efforts we have been viewed as the “squirrely” guy/gal with a tinfoil hat who see’s everything as a conspiracy. We have lost friends and even had family cringe when holiday get togethers were planned because no one wants to be exposed to our “craziness”. Worse than any disease or even leprosy, anyone spouting Austrian economics or even “common sense” (almost extinct today) has been shoved into the outcast corner by the mass delusional majority. Over the last few years, “theory after theory” has become fact after FACT after FACT! There can no longer be any question, conspiracy to delude and defraud has run rampant and is a day to day operation in the Western world.

Originally my thought was to write this piece about and around the perfect response, “but you do agree the government is bankrupt, right?”. I say this because almost anyone (in the U.S.), no matter what age, sex, religion, race or financial status will generally agree with this. For those who don’t agree, it is better to leave well enough alone, this is a subset living in their own delusional world.

For those who do agree “the government is broke”, they are broken down into basic subsets. There are those who “get it” fully. There are those who know the government is broke but don’t really understand what it means or the ramifications (they can’t connect the dots). Another group are those who agree and know in the back of their mind this is true …but they don’t REALLY believe it because they simply cannot …”it’s too awful to comprehend”. Then, we have another group, probably the largest of all, those who agree but think it really doesn’t matter. They may also believe no financial crisis will ever occur because “the government will never let it happen”. Let’s talk about this group next.

The “can’t happen here” crowd only need the dots connected for them. I believe it is best to ask them questions in an effort to lead them to their own answer and understanding. This is much better than lecturing or “telling” them because they will actually have to think to answer your questions. Questions such as:

1.  if the government is broke, how will they make good on their obligations such as payrolls, Social Security, food stamps, paying the military and most importantly paying on their debt?  Forget the first four, “do you realize Treasury securities are what funds Social Security, your pension, the bank’s balance sheet which holds your money …AND what underlies the dollar itself?”!

2.  If the above doesn’t work, you might ask if the economy currently “feels good”?  Then ask, do you realize the federal government spends almost 20% of GDP (and their spending is “counted” as part of GDP).  If they are broke and have to drastically cut back on spending, will the economy not shrink by the amount the government can no longer spend?  Do you see without government spending, under any definition we would be in a depression greater than the 1930′s?

I don’t want to go through the entire exercise but please understand, “guiding” someone to their own conclusion which happens to be correct is best done with questions, MANY OF THEM.  If you can, take two, three or even more philosophical roads to help them reach the same conclusion each time …the understanding will be that much more cemented in their mind when they finally do(hopefully) arrive!

Switching gears just a bit, we have seen the “mentality” change somewhat over the last year or so.  Even the mainstream is showing some signs of a shift.  This “shift” has even become evident amongst and within the “old boys club”.  For example, who would have imagined Germany, Netherlands, Belgium and Austria would ever ask for their gold back?  Or Texas building its own depository and using the words “not” and “confiscate” in the legislation for proposed repatriation?

Several very well known and at one time mainstream money managers have publicly told of the dangerous situation.  The latest is a bond manager who has gone entirely to cash, how’s this for putting a crash helmet on?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-22/tcw-braces-for-bond-market-collapse-by-piling-the-cash-up-high Just a few weeks ago, Bloomberg put out an article asking if China could gold back the yuan.  This was significant because no news source (other than maybe Kitco) has been as bearish and slandering regarding gold than Bloomberg.  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-20/chinese-gold-standard-would-need-a-rate-50-times-bullion-s-price

Going to the beginning and back to the top, who exactly was correct in 1999-2000? Who was correct from 2005-2008 about an impending crisis? The answer of course is the very same people screaming bloody murder today “the financial system will come apart from the seams”. Are those who were correct before, now “crying wolf”? Or are they saying the same things for the same reason and forecasting the same results as before? “They” (we) were not crazy then and are not crazy now. In fact, it is even much easier to see now than previous. As a side note if you recall, we heard in late 2008 and 2009, “who could have seen it coming”? Or, “no one could have seen it coming”. This is dead wrong! In fact, even within the mainstream press there was a concerted effort to silence the truth. For example, Greg Hunter while at CNN tried to warn of the banking collapse. He was told “don’t go there” and was rewarded by having his contract not renewed!

“Some” saw the dotcom bubble coming, more saw and warned of the 2008 crisis coming …and even more see this one coming. Not only are there more and louder voices today, the numbers are growing slowly but surely and even engulfing some mainstreamers who used to laugh at “us tinfoilers”!

I know how difficult it is and has been. The financial landscape is perverted beyond recognition and any time you open your mouth, you are proven wrong. Gold goes down the following day along with a new high in stocks so you look “stupid”. You are not. “We” cannot make price, we can only tell the truth as we see it and suggest via common sense and logic the need to prepare for the worst. As I see it, the outcome is not in any doubt and becomes clearer each day. My fear is we are not in 2008 anymore, the coming collapse will change the world order to one unrecognizable to today. The U.S. is in fact “broke” as we spoke of at the beginning. The “realization” of this not only can happen but WILL happen. Sadly, because of how badly the U.S. has treated the world over these last years, we will be given no mercy when negotiating our bankruptcy. It will be a real live wolf at our door!

 

Regards, Bill Holter
Holter-Sinclair collaboration
Comments welcome!  bholter@hotmail.com

Discussion
44 Comments
    CFS
    Jun 24, 2015 24:14 PM

    No country is “broke” as long as it has the power to print money out of thin air, without apparent consequence.

    And where is Guy Fawkes when you need him?

      Jun 24, 2015 24:37 PM

      Agreed.

    Jun 24, 2015 24:57 PM

    ANDY HOFFMAN AT ……….FSN………. crashing miners………

    Jun 24, 2015 24:19 PM

    AFFORDABLE RENT……..in the US…………zerohedge. ……..NOT affordable for most.

    Jun 24, 2015 24:19 PM

    Greece deal fell apart. Gold does not even blink. This is a case of sovereign default. Gold used to react violently to this kind of events, like 2011 for both Europe and US sovereign debt limit and default threats. Power that be does not even care to hide their action anymore. I remember they used to create some symbolic moves.

    Gold is held down for end of quarter and option expiration tomorrow, on short term. In long term, they want to suppress the price as long as they can so money comes to US not gold/silver. It is corruption to the finest.

      Jun 24, 2015 24:25 PM

      TOGA PARTY……..with a GREEK TWIST………

      Jun 24, 2015 24:04 PM

      Lawrence,
      Funny you mention option expiry. If gold closes tomorrow around 1190, all puts and calls never meet strike price. Everyone looses in the rigged casino.

    Jun 24, 2015 24:30 PM

    RUSSIA OVERTAKES ARABS IN SUPPLING OIL TO CHINA…….zerohedge………..can anyone say bye bye petrodollar.

    Jun 24, 2015 24:29 PM

    Canadian Oil Sands & US Shale: Innovation via Necessity – Marin Katusa Research

    http://katusaresearch.com/canadian-oil-sands-us-shale-innovation-via-necessity/

      Jun 24, 2015 24:33 PM

      I think the BALK is not IN………..water might be worth more than oil…….go green…..

        Jun 24, 2015 24:52 PM

        you’re right that Water is “Blue Gold”.

          Jun 24, 2015 24:56 PM

          I saved this list of water companies BB posted last year in the water industry, and your good friend J….the Long….OOTB weighed in on it too.

          On September 16, 2014 at 11:47 am,
          bb says:

          Artesian Resources Corporation ARTNA Water utility
          *Xylem XYL Water infrastructure company
          *SJW Corp SJW Water utility
          *Cadiz Inc CDZI Water rights
          *Lindsay Corporation LNN Agricultural irrigation systems
          *Aegion Corp. AEGN Corrosion protection for pipes
          *American Water Works AWK Water and wastewater services
          *Aqua America Inc WTR Water and wastewater services
          *Calgon Carbon Corp CCC Water filtration
          *California Water Services Group CWT Water utility
          *Connecticut Water Service Inc CTWS Water utility
          *Hawkins Inc HWKN Water treatment chemicals
          *Hyflux Ltd HYFXF Water treatment
          *Kurita Water Industries KTWIF Water treatment
          *Layne Christensen LAYN Water management services
          *Middlesex Water Company MSEX Water utility
          *Severn Trent SVTRF Water treatment
          *Suez Environment SZEVF Water treatment
          *United Utilities Group UUGRY Water utility
          *York Water Company YORW Water utility
          *Pure Cycle Corporation PCYO Water treatment
          *Veolia Environment VE Water treatment
          *GLV LVGAF Water treatment
          *H2O Innovation HEO Water treatment
          *Ashland Inc ASH Water treatment
          *American States Water AWR Water utility
          *Badger Meter BMI Water meters
          *Itron Inc ITRI Water meters
          *Mueller Water Products MWA Water pipes/valves
          *Watts Water Technologies WTS Water valves
          *Idex Corp IEX Water pumps/meters
          *Consolidated Water Co CWCO Water utility
          *Flowserve Corp FLS Water pumps/valves
          *SABESP SBS Water utility
          *Tetra Tech TTEK Water engineering
          *Energy Recovery Inc ERII Water energy reuse
          *Toray Industries TRYIF Water filtration
          *Northwest Pipe Company NWPX Water pipes
          *Gorman Rupp GRC Water pumps
          *Halosource Inc HLOUF Water treatment
          *Enviro Voraxial Technology EVTN Water treatment
          *Hydro International HYD Wastewater management
          *Waterlogic PLC WTL Water dispensers
          *Amiad Water Systems AFS Water filtration
          *Mycelx Technologies MYX Water treatment
          *Porvair PLC PRV Water filtration
          *United Envirotech UEDVF Wastewater treatment
          *Primo Water Corp PRMW Water dispensers
          *BWT AG BWT.VI Water treatment
          *Int’l WaterGuard IWG.V Water treatment
          *Clearford Industries CLI.V Water treatment
          *Aqua Pure Ventures AQE.V Water treatment
          *Seair Inc SDS.V Water treatment
          *JG Boswell BWEL Water rights/ag
          *Pico Holdings PICO Water rights/ag
          *Limoneira Company LMNR Water rights/ag
          *Two Rivers Company TURV Water rights/ag
          *Ecolab ECL Water treatment
          *Kemira KMRAF Water treatment
          *Thai Tap Water TTAPY Water utility
          *Modern Water PLC MWATF Water monitoring/filtration
          *Dee Valley Group DVW.L Water utility
          *Torrington Water TORW Water utility
          *Pennon Group PEGRF Water utility
          *Manila Water Company MWTCY Water utility
          *Rexnord Corporation RXN Water meters

          On September 16, 2014 at 2:02 pm,
          J……..THE LONG………………..OOTB says:

          Peerless Pumps.. should be on your list…………..they have a pump which converts salt water in to drinking water………

            Jun 24, 2015 24:02 PM

            YOU ARE DA MAN…………..GREAT WORK……………….

    Jun 24, 2015 24:56 PM

    There is a water company that is coming to market ( provided the big pharma doesn’t shut them down ) that has excellent qualities for insuring good health. Many benefits!

    The water is Oxgen enriched and has the right minerals and a alkaline level that purifies the human body and can prevent many diseases.

    I personally know of many success stories regarding this water.

    When it’s available to the public, I will post.

      Jun 24, 2015 24:12 PM

      Yes, I am a huge fan of Alkaline water with trace minerals added, and drink them most days. I think I’ve tried about every brand there is:

      Aqua Hydrate, AlkaLife, Essentia, Qure, Real 2 Water, Evamor, Fiji, Penta, Volvic, Neo, BLK, Avita, and Kangen waters that all have a ph from 7-10 (most are around 9 to 9.5).

      Good for hydration and keeping those cells happy and flushed of toxins. It is a growing market, but this market is getting a bit crowded.

    Jun 24, 2015 24:59 PM

    Do you believe that the market is readying itself for a more secure position, after all hasn’t Facebook moved higher now then Walmart. Doesn’t anyone believe that commodities should show the real strength of The American economy. Whatever happened to the days when manufacturing and Industrial might like USS steel and General Motors were the leaders. How can any economy create a future on the likes of buying retail goods made in China and sold in The US and having people reveal themselves on social media. DT

    Jun 24, 2015 24:35 PM

    For those with a Stockcharts subscription, GDXJ looks ready to rise. Here we have a 60 minute chart showing the high volume breakout on the 17th and the subsequent (and healthy) backtest.
    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=GDXJ&p=60&yr=0&mn=1&dy=28&id=p21746045340&a=413661401

    Jun 24, 2015 24:41 PM

    Bill Holter stated that a bond fund manager has gone entirely to cash. That is false. All that manager said was that they (TCW Group) have increased their cash position to the highest level since 2008. They (TCW Group) still have a large percentage of their fixed income in bonds.

    Jun 24, 2015 24:47 PM

    Despite having more than enough AXU already, I am happy for this chance to buy more.
    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=AXU&p=D&yr=1&mn=6&dy=0&id=p80294083892&a=405824361

      Jun 24, 2015 24:53 PM

      Interesting close today (I haven’t altered this chart in weeks).
      http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=AXU&p=D&yr=0&mn=11&dy=0&id=p12767521546&a=392072920&listNum=1

      Jun 24, 2015 24:27 PM

      I am curious to see if tomorrow will be a reversal day after the long down candle today in AXU – Alexco.

      http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=AXU&p=D&yr=0&mn=4&dy=0&id=p26634419450

        Jun 24, 2015 24:29 PM

        I could still see it set up to go down and test the $.31-.33 support zone.

          Jun 24, 2015 24:29 PM

          that would be over the next few weeks though. It is very likely tomorrow (Thur) will be a reversal back up, but it may only last a day or two.

            Jun 24, 2015 24:33 PM

            Personally, I’m still waiting to see how things go in the precious metals over the next 3-5 weeks before coming back off he sidelines. I moved my focus over to Uranium, Fertilizers, Base metals, Lithium, and PGM miners for the moment, but plan on re-balancing in July/Aug.

            Jun 24, 2015 24:06 PM

            Yeah, most people are waiting but I’m not willing to bet on lower prices for a number of reasons. Even if it doesn’t last, I think we’re about to get a decent move up. This just might show the way: http://www.321gold.com/editorials/hamilton/hamilton061215/Zeal061215B.gif

        CFS
        Jun 25, 2015 25:17 AM

        Shad, why are you pushing Alexco when it’s mines are on care and maintenance?
        It’s only income is coming from its environmental reclamation business.
        I agree it has good grades, but the Yukon, while a safe jurisdiction, is not a beat climate. I know it has 59mill ops, but in order to mine profitably, it needs a throughput of over 450 tons a day and historically has only managed 200 or so.
        It seriously needs much higher silver prices to break even on mining. It was fortunate Silver Wheaton allowed a re-negotiation of their agreement or it would have been in default, and lucky it funded construction not through a bank, or it would have lost the mine when it defaulted.
        Just asking.

          Jun 25, 2015 25:54 AM

          I can’t speak for Shad, but I like AXU because I believe silver will be substantially higher in the months and years ahead. Post-SLW amendment, all-in sustaining costs are estimated at $15 -lower than many miners like Endeavor; First Majestic; Pan American; Coeur; Silver Standard; and Great Panther.

          There’s still plenty of exploration upside and I have no doubt that the mine will reopen.

          My best gains have always come from “miners” that don’t mine anything. GORO is an example. I bought it almost four years before it went into production starting at $1.32 and it was over $10 when they starting producing. I sold the majority and my remaining shares in the $20s while collecting 72 cents per share per year in dividends.

          Here’s a resent presentation from their website:
          http://www.alexcoresource.com/i/pdf/ppt/Alexco-Presentation-June2015.pdf

            CFS
            Jun 25, 2015 25:58 AM

            Thanks

            CFS
            Jun 25, 2015 25:04 AM

            That looks like the talk Clynton Nauman gave in Zurich.

            Jun 25, 2015 25:21 AM

            Btw, one high profile newsletter writer recently stated that Alexco “has a big payment due to Silver Wheaton by the end of this year.” This implies that a default is coming if AXU doesn’t come up with the money either by diluting shareholders or taking on debt.
            It is not true. AXU can choose to make that payment if it makes sense to.

            The writer went on to say: “At the end of the day, higher prices would make Keno Hill profitable again. The new Flame and Moth deposit seems likely to work at lower prices, and the company is moving forward with it. Best of all, the stock hasn’t become a penny stock, so the company has room to maneuver. This story could still end well. However you may interpret it, I have not sold my shares.”

            So he hasn’t sold his shares AND he doesn’t know that a penny stock is historically any stock that trades below $5 —the threshold at which bid/ask increments used to switch from fractions to pennies (until fifteen years ago).

          Jun 25, 2015 25:44 AM

          Hey CFS – Sorry, I’ve been out of pocket but wanted to reply on Alexco.

          First of all I am not pushing Alexco or any Silver miner at present, and as I stated above yesterday “Personally, I’m still waiting to see how things go in the precious metals over the next 3-5 weeks before coming back off the sidelines.” I also mentioned “I could still see it set up to go down and test the $.31-.33 support zone,” so I’m still expecting it to pull back a little more over the next few weeks.

          Matthew and I and Brian have discussed a few different Silver miners that should have a nice multiplier effect when the Spot prices rebound in Silver over the $18-$19 level. I believe Alexeco (with a mine on care and maintenance) , Americas Silver mining (previously Scorpio with a 3rd mine ready to go waiting on higher prices), Aurcana (who also has their TX mine on care and maintenance waiting for higher prices), Great Panther (as discussed last Friday will be quite profitable at $18-$19 Silver, Endeavour Mining should do well at those prices, and even Santa Cruz silver (who has the off-take agreement at $17 through 2016) could ramp up further at $18-!9 silver.

          I believe all those companies will have very nice leverage to a rising silver price, but the most solid Silver companies are Hecla, Fortuna, Mandalay, Sierra Metals, and Mag Silver.

          Hecla still outperformed the last 200 days on the majors and mid-tiers.

          http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/perf.php?AG,FSM,HL,PAAS,CDE,SSRI,TAHO,FNLPF,DBEXF,MND.TO#

            Jun 25, 2015 25:45 AM

            Here’s a nice chart of some smaller producers and explorers in the Silver space:

            Featuring the last 200 days with : Scorpio, Mag Silver, Minco, Alexco, Silvercorp, Trevali, Mirasol, Impact Silver, Santacruz, Sierra Metals.

            http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/perf.php?SMNPF,MVG,MISVF,AXU,SVM,TV.TO,MRZ.V,IPT.V,SCZ.V,SMT.TO#

            Jun 25, 2015 25:46 AM

            Here’s another update with the following companies (Great Panther Silver, Aurcana, Alexco, Hecla, Americas Silver Corp, Fortuna, Avino Silver & Gold, First Majestic, and Endeavour Silver)

            http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/perf.php?GPL,AUNFF,AXU,HL,SMNPF,SZSMF,FSM,ASM,AG,EXK,EXLLF#

            Jun 25, 2015 25:12 AM

            Thanks Shad…….
            I always appreciate you input on gold/silver explorers and miners.

            Jun 25, 2015 25:26 AM

            Shad, low cost producers like Hecla always outperform when the metal price makes it difficult for the rest to make money. I would be surprised to see Hecla come close to keeping up with the likes of AXU, IPT, SPM , etc. as silver heads above $20.

            Jun 25, 2015 25:38 AM

            Glad to share mj12. Let me know if there are any others you are following to keep tabs on.

            Matthew, I absolutely agree with you with on the multiplier effect on the smaller producers once the Silver prices rebound. I’m with ya man, I’m with ya.

            However, not everything I invest in or others invest in is that high of risk, and all I’m pointing out is that Hecla has lead the pack in this low price environment (Compared to even the other Majors & Mid-Tiers like Couer, Pan American Silver, Silver Standard Resources, Endeavour, Fortuna, or First Majestic). Some people like the more conservative larger companies with more liquidity, and I have mentioned since the end of last year that out of that group of larger companies that Hecla was my favorite. I just thought the chart was more telling than just another opinion.

            Lastly, if people have wanted to preserve money and be more conservative for the last year, then they were better off in Hecla than Impact, Alexco, Scorpio (now Americas Silver mining), Great Panther, Aurcana, or Santacruz. That was the only point I was making.

            When I go shopping this summer for Silver miners at their bottoms, I’ll likely have the heaviest weighting on the smaller producers that can capitalize on $18-$20 Silver, but I’ll also have positions in Hecla, Mandalay, and Fortuna. (I also still think Endeavour is due for a rebound later this year)

            Jun 25, 2015 25:40 AM

            One last chart for the day on Silver explorers & small producers:
            Excellon, Defiance Silver, Alexco, El Tigre Silver, Minco Silver, Kootenay Silver, Avrupa Minerals, Bear Creek, Santacruz Silver, and Silvercorp

            http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/perf.php?EXLLF,DEF.V,AXU,ELS.V,MISVF,KTN.V,AVU.V,BCM.V,SCZ.V,SVM#

            I’ve been told by you and Bob M. to watch Defiance Silver, and I like what I see technically and spent time on their website fundamentally on the deposit. Looks great.

            Also, several people on other blogs tipped me off to Kootenay Silver. Check it out.

            Jun 25, 2015 25:45 AM

            I understand and am aware you cannot give investment advice. But, I am interested in your criticism on several specs I hold…..Santa Fe Gold (SFEG) and Discovery Ventures (DTVMF).
            My pet cats are TGD, LSG and THM.

    CFS
    Jun 25, 2015 25:58 AM

    While attention was focussed on Greece, Ukraine defaulted Wednesday on some of its bonds.

      Jun 25, 2015 25:14 AM

      THANKS………….I have not read that one yet………..

    Jun 25, 2015 25:30 AM

    Silver price has been kept down for so long. There is no room to go further down. The only way manipulators can do is to create daily price swings to wear people out. In a longer term chart the price is unusually stable. I never see silver so flat. Here is 5 year chart
    http://www.silverseek.com/quotes/5silver.php

    Jun 25, 2015 25:11 AM

    Thanks guys great work!!