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Huge movements in the conventional markets to kick off the week

August 24, 2015

Gary kicks off today with his comments on the markets. With the Dow starting the day down over 1,000 points and markets all around the world continuing to fall are we for a horrible bear market.

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    Aug 24, 2015 24:37 AM

    Very enjoyable interview. Of course, Gary is saying what I want to hear……but that doesn’t make it wrong. He could be making the call of the century and everyone should take heed. We’re in unprecedented times.

      Aug 24, 2015 24:46 AM

      I think Gary already made the call when he was pounding the table 2 weeks ago on buying gold. He also got this crashy pullback right too. Wish I had pulled off the VIX/UVXY trade, wow. End of this year will be interesting.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:39 AM

    Gary
    OK, now I’m confused……………….again. Gold is not participating in the downdraft today of the US markets or dollar. Is there an obvious explanation that I’m missing? Can’t imagine there are that many gold sellers around. Can you tell from your charts/insights that there is a major battler going on between the paper bears and the physical bulls? Is this even possible? Silver is trading like a metal so the shorts are not even squeezed here.

      Aug 24, 2015 24:48 AM

      DGHH, The miners are having a struggle so far today. I expect it’s due to “Mr Margin” making some calls today. Gold may hold on the flight to safety, but PM stocks could be a little weak until the margin calls end.

        Aug 24, 2015 24:55 AM

        Actually I kind of thought GDX and GDXJ held up fairly respectably considering the carnage elsewhere. Maybe it just proves that stock is held by strong hands because the sell-off across the board barely moved them and that tells me optimism is high on that front and investors are prepared to wait out this market.

          Aug 24, 2015 24:58 AM

          Gold too. It decoupled today by not following silver and the other PM’s down and while it did not benefit from the flight to safety neither did it crack under the onslaught of selling. Again, this may suggest that even under stress there are not going to be many dumping gold into a falling market as we have seen in the past. This was positive from that perspective. Gold was the one single commodity that remained stable and immovable while almost everything around it was in a steep fall.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:09 AM

            Good point!

            Aug 24, 2015 24:19 AM

            Can you believe I am finally feeling a positive vibe about these metals markets?

            Big shock eh!

            Aug 24, 2015 24:01 AM

            A number of folks are feeling that way, Listener.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:48 AM

            Randgold held up very well in London. I too thought the miners held up well. I am looking on this as an opportunity to buy in for the longterm.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:32 PM

            Well bite my tongue. GDX and GDXJ got murdered in the last hour of trading.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:58 PM

            Bob UK – I believe Randgold has been a good proxy for GDX. The black line in this chart is GDX and the candles are for Randgold. Also note the importance of the 400 day exponential moving average (red line) for tops and bottoms.

            http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=GOLD&p=W&yr=1&mn=0&dy=0&id=p02947319592

    Aug 24, 2015 24:44 AM

    Kudos again to Gary. How many so called advisers would just say “I was wrong” on the US$. 99% hedge & blame it on “something” else when they are wrong. Also, a huge thank you for allowing non-subscribers into the Saturday SMT conference.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:44 AM

    wholly freakin guacamole Gary!!!

    Aug 24, 2015 24:45 AM

    With regards to the dollar, with bonds climbing and stocks tanking it should be flying. My guess is some of the trillions in the dollar carry trade are unwinding/bailing. This whole short the Euro/long the dollar and short the yen/long the dollar rose to ridiculous levels. Everyone was on the same side of the boat.

      Aug 24, 2015 24:53 AM

      plus smelling QE?

      Aug 24, 2015 24:59 AM

      Exactly as I have been saying all along. When the whole crowd is on the same side of the boat you just know they will all get wet. You can’t teach this stuff in school.

        Aug 24, 2015 24:08 AM

        No you certainly cannot “teach this stuff in school”.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:47 AM

    Last night I said lookout below and sure enough, the Dow fell until finding support at the 200 dMA/233 dEMA.
    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24INDU&p=W&yr=8&mn=5&dy=0&id=p36155196861&a=421704680

      Aug 24, 2015 24:02 AM

      Actually that is pretty interesting how it landed right on the crossover before buyers came in and sent the Dow back up. You figure its in their program, Matthew?

        Aug 24, 2015 24:15 AM

        Those moving averages are important and make for a logical place to cover shorts aggressively. The guys who started the rebound will be the same ones who initiate the next pounding.

          Aug 24, 2015 24:44 AM

          I would agree with that. One thing worth pointing out though is that this decline, despite its size, is still contained within the rising trend channel where the DOW is concerned so it is not a certainty that much more of a fall is ahead. I won’t make that bet today anyway. Take a look at the monthly to see what I mean. We may have already seen the worst of the sell-off.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:47 AM

            The weekly chart is not useful in making this judgement. Only the long charts make the insight obvious.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:01 AM

            Yes, I think there is more downside but markets breath; so shorts can be covered and redeployed repeatedly within a downtrend.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:05 AM

            Possibly for the time being. But, I am pretty convinced that we have not seen the end of this yet!

      Aug 24, 2015 24:03 AM

      Correction: should be 200 wMA/233 wEMA. “W” for week.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:48 AM

    2 of my recent short positions on oil producers closed this am at a sharp profit . I sill have 2 more short positions that look good as of now. quality stocks are on sale , but dont buy yet . wait till china market stops falling , probably this week . Then look to buy quality health care companys and some lesser know quality stocks . best of health and wealth to you all . S

      Aug 24, 2015 24:03 AM

      You playing DWTI?

        Aug 24, 2015 24:27 AM

        Jason, for the first time in months I took out first tier position in UWTI. If Oil gets down to $35, then I’m going in heavy with a tier 2 position in UWTI to average down.

        Good luck mate!

          Aug 24, 2015 24:32 PM

          OK – based on the overwhelming thoughts from energy pundits about Oil possibly getting down to $32-$33 as bottom, then I stand corrected and there is a school of thought that thinks it’s heading that direction. As a result, if there is a pop in Oil off the $38 support in the next few days, then I’ll cash out, and wait for a further drop. If Oil doesn’t ever pop and just keeps heading down then I’ll average in around $33 as a second tier. I think Oil may pop back up to $40+ before heading down that low. It’s at $38.06 in after hours trading, so we’ll see how it goes tomorrow.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:15 PM

            Probably not a bad idea, Shad.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:00 PM

            So far crude oil is up to $38.82 in after markets. If this continues tomorrow we could see a push towards $40. That will be an escape hatch from my UWTI position, and then I’ll try to be more patient and wait for the lows in Oil……but we’re getting close.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:27 PM

            I am kind of hoping today it begins building a technical base before running higher.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:30 PM

            I like the idea of Oil building a technical base around $38-$39 and then moving higher gradually, and it is in oversold territory here. Unfortunately, it is looking more realistic that Oil will get a minimal bounce on Tues maybe Wed, and then head even lower to the mid to low $30s before finding bottom.

            My thought is that the the $38 level did just hold as support, and oil is currently priced at $39.05 in overseas trading, so it may be bouncing to $40+, before turning back down lower. I was thinking calls for $32-$33 sounded a bit extreme and really thought the $38 area would be support (and maybe $35). However, there were so many energy pundits that came out of the woodwork today expecting $32-$33 oil, that is has me re-evaluating my thesis of where Oil should bottom. This is commodity to watch because it’s getting darn close to a bottom.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:49 PM

            I don’t know if you’ll be able to see this chart correctly or not, but it does look like a low is coming soon.
            http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24WTIC&p=M&yr=20&mn=10&dy=0&id=p97076214727&a=375436964

            Aug 24, 2015 24:30 PM

            What are your thoughts on that $33.55 trough from 2009 as a potential bottom?

            http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24WTIC&p=D&st=2001-01-01&en=(today)&id=p51446861804

            Aug 25, 2015 25:07 AM

            Looks like a good possibility to me.

        Aug 24, 2015 24:40 AM

        Unprecedented times? Of course!

        Aug 24, 2015 24:41 AM

        DWTI?

          Aug 24, 2015 24:52 AM

          (DWTI) is the ETF that is 3xshort Oil. It has been the clear trade the last few months as Oil fell further. This was predicted, but Oil is look like it’s downside is limited from here, so I’m not shorting it any more personally.

          I believe Oil is finally getting close to bottoming, and I’ve been waiting for $38-$40 range as a potential turning point, so I took out a position in (UWTI), 3xLong Oil today at the levels targeted. As mentioned above, if Oil drops to $35, then I’m going in very heavy in UWTI as a second tier. If oil got down to $32-$33 (which is unlikely) then I’d take out a final 3rd tier position and average down for the second time. I’ll be incredibly surprised if Oil doesn’t bottom by $35, but these are surprising times….

            Aug 24, 2015 24:48 AM

            Shad, I am kicking myself for not holding DWTI (I bought at $59 and sold out around $58 earlier this year!). I just scooped up 4000 shares of UWTI at $.78 today. Not certain the bottom is in with oil yet but it sure feels like it is close! Google Finance’s weekly RSI registered a 0 reading today on USO. Weekly at 0! That’s just nuts!

            Aug 24, 2015 24:07 AM

            Yep. I’m in the same boat. I had DWTI in June and July for short periods of time but didn’t hang onto it. Today Oil finally hit the zone I’ve been looking for as a bottoming zone, and great deal of the sell-off was due to the Russian Ruble issues.

            We may be a little early to the party, but the downside is more limited than the upside at this point, and if Oil drops further then I’m willing to average down 2 more times.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:14 AM

            Reverse that last statement. The Russian ruble issue was due to the falling oil price.
            _________________________________________________________________________

            Oil Price Plunge Pushes Ruble to Seven-Month Lows
            Economy likely to fall deeper into recession

            http://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-ruble-sinks-to-seven-month-lows-1440411048

            Aug 24, 2015 24:15 AM

            Russian Ruble Collapses to 7-Month Low on Weak Oil Prices
            MOSCOW — Aug 24, 2015

            http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russian-ruble-collapses-month-low-weak-oil-prices-33273581

            Aug 24, 2015 24:17 AM

            Apparently the culprit with Oil is China….
            ____________________________________________

            Crude prices sink on China slowdown concerns
            38 Mins Ago
            Reuters

            http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/23/us-crude-dips-to-around-40-on-demand-concerns-supply-glut.html

            Aug 24, 2015 24:43 PM

            Thanks Shad!

            Aug 24, 2015 24:25 AM

            The talking heads on CNBC think $32 is in the cards. It’s possible, but dang that’s low.

            If we get a bounce from here then I may take profits and wait for a further pullback instead of averaging down. We’ll see…

            Aug 24, 2015 24:31 AM

            Wiseguy – isn’t it a bit early for UWTI as isn’t there daily decay with UWTI?

            Aug 24, 2015 24:33 AM

            Here is a segment from an interesting article that sees the new range as $32-$3 in oil. I guess I’m wrong and maybe Oil has further to fall. They did note the support at $38 though. We’ll see if it bounces from $38, but their title is already out of date…..
            _____________________________________________________________
            Crude Oil Prices Hit an Intraday Low $39.86 per Barrel
            By Gordon Kristopher • Aug 24, 2015

            “Bottom fishing, short covering, and lower crude oil prices could support crude oil prices. The nearest resistance for crude oil prices is seen at $50 per barrel. Prices hit this level in August 2015. In contrast, weak demand cues and record supplies could drag crude oil prices lower. The nearest support for crude oil prices is seen at $38 per barrel. Prices tested this level in February 2009.

            Crude oil price charts suggest that crude oil prices could average between $33 per barrel and $43 per barrel in the near term. The EIA (U.S. Energy Information Administration) estimates that crude oil prices could average around $49 per barrel in 2015 and $54 per barrel in 2016. Citigroup forecast that crude oil prices could hit $32 per barrel in the near term.”

            http://marketrealist.com/2015/08/crude-oil-prices-hit-intraday-low-39-86-per-barrel/

            Aug 24, 2015 24:34 AM

            that should have said the new range as $32-$43. not $3. 😉

            Aug 24, 2015 24:59 AM

            Bob UK, you are probably right. Oil could still keep dropping here.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:22 PM

            Yes, it may be a bit early still and things have slid further this afternoon in Oil. If it bounces up from here this week, then I may sell out and wait to see if the pundits are correct about $32-$33 oil being the target. We are right under $38 at $37.97, so I want to see if there is a bounce from here first.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:34 PM

            I believe Oil may pop back up to $40+ before heading down as low as $32-$33, so let’s see if $38 will hold in overnight and pre-market trading.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:56 PM

            So far this evening Oil has bounced off the $38 zone (yes I know it dipped briefly below it to $37.94, but close enough).

            Crude Oil $38.82 +0.58

            Aug 25, 2015 25:17 AM

            I got out of my UWTI trade at $.82 this morning, and decided to move to the side until we confirm the lows in Oil. As mentioned above that long term support at $33.55 may come into play. I’ll probably go back into UWTI much heavier next time once Oil gets below $35 or indicates it definitely has bottomed for the long haul.

            Aug 25, 2015 25:13 AM

            Really, Shad? I got out of UWTI at $ .82 too, LOL. I saw it falling and took the profits. I don’t trust whatever strength oil did have even though it’s back up to 82 cents now.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:54 AM

    I think Gary has nailed it!!!!

    PF
    Aug 24, 2015 24:00 AM

    I have a feeling Rick will disagree with Gary that the dollar has topped.

      Aug 24, 2015 24:41 AM

      We will see later today.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:00 AM

    BIG AL! I made 26% shorting the S&P this morning and I TOOK my profits! SPXS!!!

      Aug 24, 2015 24:42 AM

      Congratulations Jason.

      I was a bit luckier in my short.

        Aug 24, 2015 24:01 AM

        Well you got that OLDer wiser thing working to your advantage Al. lol I’m not there yet.

          Aug 24, 2015 24:04 AM

          In this particular case, Jason, I also add the word, luckier.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:21 AM

            Congratulations Al.

        Aug 24, 2015 24:26 AM

        Nice one Big Al!

      Aug 24, 2015 24:26 AM

      Great work Jason.

    CFS
    Aug 24, 2015 24:03 AM

    I wrote this yesterday:
    ………..I am not a chartist or cycles person, although I do try to listen to everyone and not criticize other techniques of prognostication. I am a fundamentalist, first and foremost, although I do take into consideration charts and cycles for timing.
    With the RSI at 33 for $USD it could reasonably be claimed that the dollar is becoming close to oversold and thus should bounce soon and increase in value.
    The main advantage the dollar has is that it is the reserve currency and for those people living in countries with weak currencies it is often considered a safe haven.
    I would like to discuss, however, a fundamental reason why I expect the US dollar to drop.
    What makes most of the world work is the use of energy. For the Western world that essentially means oil.
    Since the price of oil has declined from over $100 dollars a barrel to about $40 a barrel, this means most importing countries do not need to hold as many dollars for oil trade. i.e. There will be a reduced demand for dollars for the biggest item in world trade.
    It is for this reason; without consideration of manipulation, without conspiracy theories, that I believe we will see weakness in the US dollar index. ………..

    Now I wish to comment further.
    From a fundamentalist point of view, there are increasing reasons for the dollar to actually climb after a few days.
    First the oil price is close to bottoming, so the reason for the dollar drop given above is ending.
    Despite the worldwide phenomenon of market collapses, we are about to come into a time when people are looking for a safe haven.
    because of the depth of the bond market, compared to precious metals, I believe that will be one of the primary choices of money managers around the world for a safe haven, which will give strength to the US dollar.

    I said in this forum, over a year ago, I believe that if something can’t happen, it won’t happen. This was in regard to Federal Reserve interest rates. I do not anticipate any significant move upward in interest by the Fed. I do expect a widening interest rate spread and a significant upward move in the interest rates associated with corporate bonds; EVEN if we have a new round of QE.

    Big Al, I asked permission to discuss the hazards of real estate as a safe haven. May I discuss this?

      Aug 24, 2015 24:44 AM

      Of course. I would like to hear your thoughts on real estate.

    PF
    Aug 24, 2015 24:12 AM

    Gold is not going to be $5000 three years from now.
    HUI is not going to 200.

    Gary’s targets are way too high in my opinion.

      PF
      Aug 24, 2015 24:17 AM

      Actually, some time ago I think Gary’s HUI target was 1000 (not 200). Am I correct?

        Aug 24, 2015 24:35 AM

        PF:
        Events and circumstances change. With that, opinions change. Fact is nobody has a chrystal ball, but Gary is offering his best analysis at this point in time and provides the reasoning behind his thoughts. You are free to dis-regard if you choose. Best of luck to you in your decision making.

      CFS
      Aug 24, 2015 24:37 AM

      Why do you say gold will be $200 three years from now, PF?

      I will posit the possibility that silver will go up to be higher 3 years from now.
      Here is my reason.
      Silver is both an industrial metal and a precious metal.
      It is predominantly mined as a biproduct of copper , zinc and gold mining.
      If copper and zinc mining is reduced by a recession, then the supply of silver will be reduced. However, the needs for silver in industry have been steadily increasing over the last few decades, so even a recessionary slow-down may not reduce industrial needs. With demand steady or increased and with supply reduced, price will go up.

        PF
        Aug 24, 2015 24:42 PM

        I didn’t say that. Read the comment more carefully, please.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:13 AM

    gary I think that you are gonna be proofed wrong regarding the dollar.Although the dx has broken the support it doesn’t mean that it has changed trend.Instead of a triangle it is forming a zig-zag.Regarding gold it is very near the 1180 strong support which has turned resistance.dx and gold are still moving in sync to each other.Nothing changed imo.Eur/usd are heading to parity and below and gold to 820 (200ma).

      Aug 24, 2015 24:28 AM

      Don,
      People have been telling me I’m wrong all year. So far it hasn’t worked out so well for them. 🙂

        Aug 24, 2015 24:52 AM

        Gary, previously you called for the Dollar Index to retreat to the 38% fibonacci at 92.183 before heading to 120. It hasn’t even made it there yet! Why the change in your Dollar outlook?

          Aug 24, 2015 24:41 AM

          Wise,
          Because the cycle patterns have changed. We now have a fialed intermediate cycle in progress. That should not have happened if the dollar was going to go to 110 or 120.

        Aug 24, 2015 24:19 AM

        Gary I am a technical guy and believe me I am not seeing any change in trend at all in dx.usd is building momentum right now for another leg up.Just a healthy correction to approx 89.5 i.e. 50% retracement of the leg up from 8th may 2014.Enough to fill the gap.

          Aug 24, 2015 24:07 PM

          I agree.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:14 AM

    Well Gary maybe this call was the right one and we should follow Leonardo Fib. …

    On August 20, 2015 at 5:33 pm,
    gabriel says:

    The Screwtape Files called a bottom for gold on July 9th 2015 of U$1,081/oz.
    Jason Zweig got a mentioncalling sell on gold and calling it a pet rock at…yes you guessed it…the very bottom $1,080/oz day.

    http://screwtapefiles.blogspot.ca/2015/07/1081-gold-bottom.html

    “I’m not expecting the 61.8% fib level to be hit.
    Time is running out for buyers in my opinion, and the next leg of the secular bull is likely to be the most explosive and volatile we’ve seen since the late 1970s, so hang on tight. “

    Aug 24, 2015 24:25 AM

    Nasdaq almost green. Too funny. CBs in total control of markets.

      Aug 24, 2015 24:45 AM

      Yet, again Spanky!

    Aug 24, 2015 24:27 AM

    Gary,
    You are spot on regarding the dollar and the stock exchange. You are ..way… Wrong regarding gold! It is not even remotely close to a bottom! The emerging markets and commodities should bottom this week.

    Gold is going down!

      Aug 24, 2015 24:46 AM

      On this I have to agree with Gary, Chartster

        Aug 24, 2015 24:52 AM

        Al,
        Buy metals and miners at your own risk. Gary is usually spot on. And no one is better calling the conventional markets than he is. I tell my friends about him all the time. Regarding the metals, he’s wrong today. I would be selling you out if I didn’t voice the opinion.

          Aug 24, 2015 24:56 AM

          Chartster, you’ve been calling for this huge plunge to happen imminently for over a year. I’d just like to know if there is anything that will make you decide that you’ve got it wrong.
          Do you have an upside breakout price you are watching?

            Aug 24, 2015 24:12 AM

            Matthew,
            I did think the bottom was going to happen last November, until it stopped at 1130..
            I’ve been thinking the bottom would happen this fall, and still do. It’s just not now.
            You know how low I think it’s going.. At any rate, the bear ends with a wash. We haven’t seen the washout, yet.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:26 AM

            Matthew,
            I’d get freaked if gold hit 1308 before the wash. I’m still expecting 1225 shortly, but maybe it just heads down from here. This gold market is a hard pill to swallow lately. We all reserve the right, to be wrong..

            Aug 24, 2015 24:46 AM

            Why didn’t gold suffer such a wash in 1999?

            Aug 24, 2015 24:57 AM

            This is the new narrative, Matthew.
            Why is the CRB close to the same value of when we went off of the gold standard?
            Why is gold no longer listed as a commodity?

            Aug 24, 2015 24:09 AM

            My question is, why are you certain there will be a wash this time when there wasn’t one at the end of the secular bear in 1999?
            Gold is a commodity. Money is gold.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:26 AM

            To sum it up, bookoo phyz is going to hit the markets. After that happens, load the truck!

            Aug 24, 2015 24:38 PM

            Merci 😉

          Aug 24, 2015 24:10 AM

          Thanks Chartster.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:29 AM

    See my comment to don above.

      Aug 24, 2015 24:35 AM

      You’ve been making great calls all year , man. I just know that gold is going down, and I know why. Just because the dollar is heading south, does not mean gold is going up.

      I mean no disrespect, I just disagree.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:30 AM

    Well if everything turns green, the FED will have to hike rate in September …
    What to do ?

    Aug 24, 2015 24:32 AM

    Gold just topped along with the yen today. New lows coming as the Fed raises rates in September. US equities the only place to be.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:36 AM

    Dow has to be putting in one of the biggest tails in history on the daily candle chart. A new era in the bull about to begin.

      Aug 24, 2015 24:46 AM

      Starting right now, Spanky?

        Aug 24, 2015 24:52 AM

        Yes, sir. If anything, it is going to take a long long time to chew through today’s tail. The market could bounce and trend sideways to down for a year or more, easily. But there is no way the CBs will just give up so easily. This is the endgame, and they will fight tooth and nail before letting things just roll over.

        The yen putting in a massive topping candle today. Again, even if it is headed higher it will consolidate today’s ridiculous move for a long time, which means tail winds for US equities.

          Aug 24, 2015 24:11 AM

          I think that you are kind of right about the “end game”

      Aug 24, 2015 24:53 AM

      The “tail” is about 6.4% so far. There was an almost 9% tail (shadow) on October 10, 2008 and an 8% tail on November 21, 2008. The final low was about 23.5% lower than that October 10th close.

      Sell the rally (not advice -it’s up to you to decide when).

        Aug 24, 2015 24:25 AM

        What you are saying then is this tail qualifies to make a continuation of the declines a fairly good probability? Its my opinion as well. I thought that spike was pretty notable although I did not check back on the record from the past for comparison.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:57 AM

    I like Gary he has the guts to change his mind and I applaud him for that.

    I have yet to note one instance where Doc has been wrong. He was saying the dollar is going down as most of the world said the pennant formation was perfect.

    AL, you have the A team on your show. Congratulations.

      Aug 24, 2015 24:10 AM

      We certainly do Silverbug Dave.

      Thank you, by the way!

      Aug 24, 2015 24:11 AM

      I agree about Gary changing his mind, that’s the professional, objective thing to do when the evidence says you should.

      I have also consistently thought the dollar’s top was in place. In fact, on the very morning of the day it topped, I said:

      On March 13, 2015 at 8:52 am,
      Matthew says:

      The dollar is massively overbought even on the monthly chart. Why no talk about selling into strength? Where are the contrarians? The dollar can (and I believe, will) retrace the entire move going back to July.
      You lock in your dollar gains by buying things that are now cheap.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:01 AM

    I did say I WAS LONG…………………………….. OOTB……..J. THE LONG…..

      Aug 24, 2015 24:03 AM

      One day out of a 1200 ain’t bad……………..lol

      Aug 24, 2015 24:05 AM

      Hey Franky! I am getting my tail handed to me today on Russia! RUSL

    Aug 24, 2015 24:03 AM

    I considered re-opening my spreadbetting account. Then I thought well the Dow will probably open 1000 points down this morning and then pop up. Basically you could go short then get a short bid filled right at the bottom and watch yourself get stopped out as it rises. Or maybe the Fed could do something overnight or at the weekend and gap the market up against any overnight short position. So I thought, why bother?

    It’s then that you realize that the whole of the financial markets are just a complete farce and a casino.

    I wonder, if the realization dawns on people that this is the case will spell the end of all this madness.

    That would mean a return to gold and a ban on most derivative products would be necessary to restore any form of honesty in the system and a ban on most derivative products.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:04 AM

    I repeated myself but maybe that is good – a ban on most derivative products.

    LPG
    Aug 24, 2015 24:08 AM

    This WE, I noted M.A matrix has a huge trading cycle move for gold on the week of Oct. 26th and also a decent panic cycle on the week of Sept 28th, which is commensurate with heightened volatility.
    We shall see.
    GL to all investing/trading.
    LPG

    Aug 24, 2015 24:08 AM

    I GUESS THE PLUNGE PROTECTION TEAM is not through yet.

      Aug 24, 2015 24:24 AM

      HA,…..good one……………….OOTB

      Aug 24, 2015 24:26 AM

      This is a CRASH UP………….per Cath. Austin Fitts…..

        Aug 24, 2015 24:54 PM

        I think you have your lids and floors mixed up again.

        “So I think we’re talking about an extraordinary change. We currently have an enormous percentage of both the corporate and individual economies in North America and in Europe dependent on government subsidies. How they’re going to transition as subsidies go away will have a big swing on how much of a debt load the equity markets are going to have to carry. We can either write down the debt or crash up the equity market and I think everybody’s preference, from investors to government policy makers to G-7 leadership, is to have a crash-up. So I think the chances of a crash-up are much better. That said, right now the tensions geopolitically are enormous and in a situation that is this fluid, anything can happen.”
        See more at: http://www.thedailybell.com/exclusive-interviews/34665/Anthony-Wile-Catherine-Austin-Fitts-on-Moral-Investing-and-the-Coming-Equity-Crash-Up/#sthash.t1lQeBYo.dpuf

    Dan
    Aug 24, 2015 24:25 PM

    Miners getting absolutely destroyed. I got out of silver for a small loss, this does not bode well. Cashed in some nice profits on biotech puts this morning at least.

      Aug 24, 2015 24:32 PM

      Congratulations, Dan.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:52 PM

    Those taking comfort in gold today can forget about it.

    SILVER IS GETTING CRUSHED AND NOT COMFIRMING GOLD.

    The worst for stocks could be in.

    Silver, the worst investment out there, will continue to get slaughtered.

    For long term investors take a good look at a long term chart, like the 10 year.

    Golds move was nothing but a blip.

    This was not the big big move Gary was pounding the table about.

    Once again he was wrong

      Aug 24, 2015 24:17 PM

      Silver is never expected to hold up as well as gold on days like this. Is James (the lesser) your identical twin? 🙂 lol

        Aug 24, 2015 24:25 PM

        bingo.

        Aug 24, 2015 24:19 PM

        Pittsburgh Phil is actually HeavyHitter. The writing style is a dead giveaway. Double spacing, brash irrational assertions, confrontational prose and an individual attack by name. I could pick him out from a mile off.

        Hey Heavy!….hows the Rapture, man?

          Aug 24, 2015 24:43 PM

          I have to disagree. I see James.

            Aug 24, 2015 24:43 PM

            Al could check his IP address.

            Aug 25, 2015 25:37 AM

            YUUUUUUUUUUUP, that’s James alright!

            Aug 25, 2015 25:27 PM

            Now that you mention it….you could be right. There is no guilt or accusing fingers being pointed in that post that Heavy used to be so good at leaving.

      Aug 24, 2015 24:22 PM

      Gold/silver ratio out at 78-79 is a sign of severe financial stress in the system. Above 80 really bad.

      Aug 24, 2015 24:24 PM

      Why would you say that around $1070 up to about $1160 is wrong?

      Aug 24, 2015 24:18 PM

      Matthew are you posting this chart to say GDXJ will hit lower support around mid 18s and reverse??? What is your point here? Thanks.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:00 PM

    Anybody flip JDST today? I wanted to buy at $8.75 with a sell stop at $10.75. Didn’t feel like dealing with good faith transfers and unsettled funds for a $100 scalp.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:31 PM

    Martin Armstrong rules Al Korelin and the gold trads drool. I can’t believe anyone is listening to you gold trads. Gold is so bullish that the miners had such a big day, NOT. See you at 850.00 on Nov 12 2015. Oh and by the way buy the dip in the $DOLLAR and the S$P. Keep listening to the gold trads and go broke.

      Aug 24, 2015 24:07 PM

      Haven’t gone broke yet, Greg. Sorry!

      Aug 24, 2015 24:53 PM

      What’s a trad, Garg?

        Aug 24, 2015 24:13 PM

        Ha….what’s a Garg?

          Aug 24, 2015 24:51 PM

          Yeah…. what the hell is a Garg? or a trad? Have we entered a parallel universe?

            Aug 24, 2015 24:52 PM

            😉

      Aug 24, 2015 24:11 PM

      What you’re saying is nonsense, btw. When everything falls BUT gold, that means gold went UP. Just because it didn’t go up as much as YOU think it should have in terms of U.S. dollars doesn’t mean that it didn’t go up substantially versus most REAL assets.
      Gold blasted 60% higher in ONE fricken month in oil value and 23% in DOW value at the same time. It even jumped 14% versus the USDX.
      Gold is now well out of its upper Bollinger band and so a pullback would make perfect sense here. But the fact remains, it did its job.

      Don’t you get tired of kneeling before Martin?

    Aug 24, 2015 24:43 PM

    When mid Nov, rolls around we will see who is kneeling.

      Aug 24, 2015 24:45 PM

      It doesn’t matter what happens, it won’t be me. That’s a fact.

    Aug 24, 2015 24:36 PM

    Gold is only up 3 to 5 times versus most commodities since the summer of 2008 (the eve of the meltdown and sheeple recognition that things aren’t what they seem) and 400% vs oil, arguably the most important commodity, yet buffoons and frauds would like you to believe that gold is no safe haven.
    Some people’s kids… what can you do?

    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$GOLD:$WTIC&p=W&yr=7&mn=3&dy=0&id=p78307319818&a=388661094&listNum=1

    bb
    Aug 25, 2015 25:05 AM

    Did anyone go short gold yesterday? or was everyone long?
    Just thinkin, when everyone sees the same thing the market goes the other way.
    Bird not being around the drop didn’t get called, he was good at seeing those coming.
    I guess the blogoshere will be shouting “attack” again.

      Aug 25, 2015 25:34 AM

      I said a pullback was likely but that was hardly an impressive call. Just look at the indicators and price action. See that last candle and how it closed below the open and back inside the upper Bollinger band. Also note that the target of that halfway pattern had been reached and finally, look at the rest of the indicators and how overbought, or close, they’d become.
      http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24GOLD&p=D&yr=1&mn=0&dy=0&id=p00684348230

        Aug 25, 2015 25:16 AM

        Priced in oil, gold is extremely overbought and at a three decade high. At least for the short term, oil is far more appealing and less risky (that does not mean that I’m selling any gold to buy oil but you can be sure that someone is).
        http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24GOLD%3A%24WTIC&p=D&yr=1&mn=0&dy=0&id=p98080486921

          Aug 25, 2015 25:30 PM

          Would it not make more sense to say that oil is oversold? It has been the one moving hard this last while, not gold. The funny thing is I am a little optimistic gold right now and see the potential for a move up. Guess I am alone again.

            Aug 25, 2015 25:58 PM

            To say that oil is oversold versus gold is exactly the same as saying gold is overbought versus oil. Short term in particular, I would favor oil much more than gold when comparing one versus the other. I am bullish both versus dollars longer term but oil appears to have more potential in the short term.
            Remember that dollars are netted out of the picture in the chart I put up.