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Big Al
November 24, 2015

Pope Says Christmas Will Be ‘A Charade’ Because ‘Whole World Is At War’

Pope Francis has declared in a sermon that Christmas this year will be a “charade” because “the whole world is at war”.

The pontiff’s speech at the Vatican came after terrorist attacks in France claimed the lives of 129 people; a Russian plane was bombed and dozens of people were killed in a double suicide attack in Lebanon.

Speaking during Mass at the Casa Santa Maria, he said: “We are close to Christmas. There will be lights, there will be parties, bright trees, even Nativity scenes – all decked out – while the world continues to wage war.

“It’s all a charade. The world has not understood the way of peace. The whole world is at war.

“A war can be justified, so to speak, with many, many reasons, but when all the world as it is today, at war, piecemeal though that war may be – a little here, a little there – there is no justification.”

The sermon cast a serious note on the beginning of the festive season at the Vatican where a giant Christmas tree was unveiled – set to be decorated by December 8 – the start of the the Vatican’s Holy Year.

Pope Francis also spoke of the “innocent victims” of war and also condemned arms dealers for their role in world conflicts.

“What shall remain in the wake of this war, in the midst of which we are living now?” he asked. “What shall remain? Ruins, thousands of children without education, so many innocent victims, and lots of money in the pockets of arms dealers.

“We should ask for the grace to weep for this world, which does not recognise the path to peace,” he said. To weep for those who live for war and have the cynicism to deny it,” he added. “God weeps, Jesus weeps”.

I would have to add that if the Pope’s comment and the opinion of the free world begins to galvanize resulting in action this could actually be a blessing in disguise- Big Al

Discussion
120 Comments
    Nov 24, 2015 24:41 AM

    Amen Al!

    Nov 24, 2015 24:12 AM

    Many thanks Mark Matia,

    I have to also give credit to Jay Taylor as I discussed this with him today on his radio show.

    Nov 24, 2015 24:14 AM

    Al, everyone believes their religion is best.other religious are saying the same message-

      Nov 24, 2015 24:40 AM

      Of course you are correct, Agatha. In this case I am not signalling out Catholics. I agree with you comment about other religions. Remember that I am a Christian first and I am a Christian who does not criticize people of other faiths.

        Nov 24, 2015 24:46 AM

        I am not sure that all are saying the same message.

          Nov 24, 2015 24:48 AM

          Yeah, I’m pretty sure the message of ISIS is a wee bit different

          Nov 24, 2015 24:08 PM

          I agree Indy. My questions towards those folks who Mark Alan refers to are getting to be more and more pointed.

          A Muslim leader and others need to make a major statement condemning the “terrorists. If that does not happen than I will truly “start to wonder about all of them”

            Nov 24, 2015 24:33 PM

            As you should………..thanks for the follow up……….did you ever get the book FAST FACTS. by Carlson

            bb
            Nov 24, 2015 24:35 PM

            Al, Muslim “leaders” have made statements condemning terrorists, repeatedly.
            I would say your American news is not showing them to you.
            Also, Muslims don’t have a guy like the pope other than in Iran, who happens to be fighting isis, if that doesn’t tell ya how they feel about terrorism nothing will.

            Im sure that doesn’t get much air play in the states either.

            bb
            Nov 24, 2015 24:38 PM

            If we don’t want major war, common sense, due diligence will be required.
            I have a son in law that is completely brainwashed by american news. Really,really sad.

            I hope the majority of people on this site see thru that garbage, if the supposedly informed don’t see it….well, we are sunk.

            Nov 24, 2015 24:40 PM

            As long as the news is controlled by 6 people in the US, which just happen to help the politicians, which just happen to help the Military Industrial Complex, the sheeple will remain in the dark.

            bb
            Nov 24, 2015 24:56 PM

            Of course Frank, but we are supposed to be the “informed” ones, no?
            If so how does Al say if he doesn’t see some Moslem leader say sumtin……..?

            The ignorant, they will do nothing but die for the banks and churches, exactly as isis does now, exactly as they have always done.

            Nov 24, 2015 24:09 PM

            bb…….if, one only relies on MSN……..he is in real trouble. The sheeple are lost, and have no knowledge of almost anything. Banking, govt. and religion.

            Nov 24, 2015 24:26 PM

            BB

            great comments

            Nov 24, 2015 24:57 PM

            Folks, I stand corrected.

            See: http://www.usip.org/olivebranch/2015/03/17/muslims-condemning-violent-extremism-count-the-ways

            My apologies. You are the first to correct me and I thank you for that.

    bb
    Nov 24, 2015 24:14 AM

    I agree with him, but I doubt there will be any “galvanizing” happening.
    I believe it was 1915 xmas day, when both sides got out of the trenches and played “football” soccer to us. The following year, both sides began artillery barrages early so as not to have any of that non sense again.

    tt

      Nov 24, 2015 24:40 AM

      Very sad world bb.

      Nov 24, 2015 24:52 AM

      Matthew

      Have you actually read the Pope’s encyclical?

        Nov 24, 2015 24:38 PM

        Yes I have, Mark.

          Nov 24, 2015 24:27 PM

          Then where in the document does it demonstrate “Marxist” principles?

            Nov 24, 2015 24:24 PM

            If you knew Marx, you’d recognize it in several places. The Forbes article is more correct than not and the dozens of comments below it might be worthwhile.

            Nov 24, 2015 24:04 PM

            Sorry Matthew

            but the Forbes article isn’t correct, nor the dozen of comments below it. Looks like Rush Limbaugh doesn’t get it either:

            http://www.catholic.com/blog/trent-horn/rush-limbaugh-doesnt-get-pope-francis

            Nov 24, 2015 24:37 PM

            It’s here nor there but I have to point out that I have never been a fan of Limbaugh and have never listened to even a portion of one of his shows.

          Nov 24, 2015 24:21 PM

          matthew I appreciate yr charts et al but calling the Pope a marxist is out to lunch…stay sane

            Nov 24, 2015 24:34 PM

            Sorry Agatha and Mark but you guys need to study objectively. Put the dictionary down and look at the guiding principles of Marxism.

            Call it what you want, what the Pope promotes is WRONG.

            Nov 24, 2015 24:09 PM

            Sounds like you need to listen to your own advice, Matthew.

            First off, if you feel making slanders and insults is necessary as part of communication, then perhaps you need to return to school and learn some manners and drop your arrogant bull crap. I asked you for specifics in the Pope’s encyclical and all you did was dodge it by utilizing a “broad brush” remark. Don’t insult my intelligence simply because I highly questioned your response regarding the Pope. I’m afraid you are the one who needs to be set straight in something and its’ called “truth”. I’m NOT hear to argue about WHAT economic system is correct or not, what I am arguing about is the garbage bull crap that you posted and simply accepted the articles as containing a truth of what the Pope said.

            First, you just said you’re “not a fan of Limbaugh” yet almost every article you posted repeats THE VERY SAME THING as Limbaugh did and even uses some of THE VERY SAME QUOTES. And when the very document that you claim to have read, doesn’t even come close to saying or promoting what your articles all claimed the Pope said, it demonstrates that someone didn’t do their due diligence and simply accepted as “fact” what the authors had to say. Gee! I find it strange how many on this forum love to call the “uninformed” masses “stupid sheeple” or “parrots”, yet you, yourself parrot articles that have been proved to misrepresent what Francis said. So exactly how is that trustworthy and reliable, Matthew? Last time I went to school, falsely making claims about what someone said is called a “lie” and it looks like the authors of your articles never even bothered to do their research. Even your attempts at bringing in “Catholics” in order to lend some support to your claims and make it appear that the Pope is “way off” doesn’t cut the mustard, Matthew. Those Catholics, demonstrate they didn’t even read the encyclical and simply accepted what some other “far right” or “far left” reporter had to say. Also, Tom Woods and Judge Napolitano do not represent the magisterial teachings of the Catholic Faith.

            Secondly, your first article contained nothing but mere assumptions and “blanket” diagrams and statements of what the Pope and Marx allegedly agree upon, yet very little within those “Top Ten” even come close to what many Christian theologies/philosophies teach and practice. Some of them actually fit more within the Eastern philosophies and faiths. So, I’m suppose to rely upon the authors ignorance, laziness in research, as accept as “fact” and “truth” that what he claims about Pope Francis is correct? Oh My! I guess arrogance is far more important than reason.

            And “no”, what the Pope is advocating is NOT wrong, it makes a lot of sense in light of many Christian faiths. No one has the absolute answer to solve the worlds economic problems because it goes FAR BEYOND simple economics.

            Nov 25, 2015 25:05 AM

            Slanderous Mark? I think it was justified after Agatha’s condescending “stay sane” remark.

            As for Limbaugh, blah, blah, blah, he simply happened to correctly identify the situation. If Obama had done the same, it would not change my view of the facts.

            Sheeple are sheeple for their blindness not for quoting others. Btw, I never used the word “parrot.” You made that up to bolster a feeble argument. Seems a bit slanderous to me.

            Aside from the views expressed in those articles, my opinion would be the same. The pope’s language was quite clear.

            Nov 25, 2015 25:46 AM

            It’s Official: If You Question Authority, You Are Mentally Ill

            Only the Sheeple Are Sane

            http://www.acting-man.com/?p=35319/

            Stupid people are horrifying.

            Nov 25, 2015 25:08 PM

            There you go Matthew.

            Nov 25, 2015 25:07 AM

            Matthew

            First of all I’ll apologize for my harsh criticism of your posts, however that does not justify you including me regarding Agatha’s comments. It also does not change the FACT that you posted reports that demonstrated false evidence and claim they are telling the truth of the story regarding your perception of things. Sorry, but again, I feel you demonstrated a rather hypocritical behavior.

            Did you even notice the majority of your articles (besides Tom Woods) didn’t list a resource for the alleged Pope Francis statements? Do you notice that the articles were mostly opinion pieces based upon what each person “thinks’ the Pope is saying? Did you happen to notice that both Judge Napolitano and Tom Woods are “traditionalist” Catholics? Are you aware of the “differing” non-dogmatic beliefs between certain groups of traditionalist versus the standard Catholic Teachings? No, you probably never researched that. Your comment also demonstrates you can’t read because I NEVER SAID YOU called anyone a “parrot”. I wonder now who is attempting to bolster a feeble argument.

            You state:”Sheeple are sheeple for their blindness not for quoting others. Btw, I never used the word “parrot.” You made that up to bolster a feeble argument. Seems a bit slanderous to me. LOL!” Oh so NOW YOU DEFINE what a “sheeple” is so that it can’t make you look like a hypocrit, is that it, Matthew? Your statement proves your contradiction when it mentions the word “blindness”. I showed you never even bothered to research facts but blindly accepted what your first article had to say in regards to Christian beliefs. That’s NO DIFFERENT that being “blind” because you blindly accepted the “authority” of the authors statement.

            ” Aside from the views expressed in those articles, my opinion would be the same. The pope’s language was quite clear.” Based upon which definitions used, Matthew? Yours, or those that the Church has established when writing encyclical documents? Did you even bother to read the document in light of what the Church teaches to understand what the language means? Probably not because you’ve already expressed a bias for facts. Interesting thing too is that several other Catholics like Dr. David Anders, Jimmy Akin and Dr. Peter Kreeft, who are all theologians like Tom Woods, believe Austrian economics is a superior economic philosophy to follow, yet not one of them believes the Popes encyclical is Marxist, nor do I.

            Oh, and “yes”, stupid people are horrifying but so are those who intentionally misrepresent facts in order to attack and condemn another’s ideology.

            Nov 25, 2015 25:42 AM

            Mark, I do not accept anything based on the authority of any author. I posted the links that I did because I didn’t have the time or the desire to adequately address the issue myself.

      Nov 24, 2015 24:14 PM

      Sorry Matthew, I don’t agree with his “top ten” reasons that the Pope is a Marxist. I am not talking theory here I am talking reality.

      I will submit that this argument is similar to trying to discuss the topic of abortion with two people who have opposite opinions. That is simply a no-win discussion.

      How can anyone disagree with his recent statement regarding the upcoming Holiday? I simply don’t understand.

        CFS
        Nov 24, 2015 24:37 PM

        Whatever happened to the Christian duty to eradicate evil in this world?

        Why is IS not considered evil?.

          bb
          Nov 24, 2015 24:42 PM

          CFS????? They are not considered evil because they work for the good guys, that’s us if you havnt heard.

          Our side is NOT evil, we kill only for good, cmon, get with the program.

            Nov 24, 2015 24:07 PM

            Nothing like satire, bb!

        Nov 24, 2015 24:41 PM

        Al, I’m not talking theory either. I just can’t ignore the irony when collectivists talk about how they are for peace and “love thy neighbor.”

      bb
      Nov 24, 2015 24:48 PM

      Well, I might agree with making money on money is depraved.
      But skimming it sounded like opinion to me.

      More economic discussion going round and round.

    Nov 24, 2015 24:06 PM

    THE POPE IS RIGHT, he knows what is going on, heck his VATICAN ok’d it!

    Nov 24, 2015 24:22 PM

    Oh well Al it was a good comment and a good message by the Pope and look where it gets you on your blog. So many adults act like they were back in a sand box during recess.

      Nov 24, 2015 24:37 PM

      mark……I thought the overall message and thought was very good.

      Nov 24, 2015 24:49 PM

      No, not kids & not a sandbox….real life comments= response if thats ok by you…
      try looking at history & check out what Pope Pius did for the Jews and others in Italy & Germany etc countries….

        Nov 24, 2015 24:04 PM

        A very dark point of history and one that I completely disagree with. A lot of questions surrounding that situation that should not be in the category of questions.

        Nov 24, 2015 24:04 PM

        +1!

    JIM
    Nov 24, 2015 24:47 PM

    I’m glad to hear the Pope is concerned about the education of the worlds children. Maybe this Christmas season, he could also find it in his heart to finally lead the charge in the prosecution and elimination of all the covered up pedophilia within the catholic church. I think the children would really appreciate that and it should probably mean much more to them than getting an “A” on a spelling test.

    All The Best,

    JIM

      bb
      Nov 24, 2015 24:02 PM

      I thought they started to deal with that, then I heard a priest in south america was nabbed raping kids again, the church whisked him off and tried him in a closed church court, in other words, covered it up yet again, so, I have no idea.

      But originally Francis said he was gonna do something.

        Nov 24, 2015 24:06 PM

        I will be very interested to see just how this tragic situation plays out.

        Nov 24, 2015 24:36 PM

        bb…I was a victim as a young boy….And I can tell everyone right now , the Vatican will “NEVER STOP IT “…WHY…”BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT TO ”
        Rome is corrupt, always has been , always will be .
        Signed Tony…Lapsed catholic, but still a GOD loving Christian.

          bb
          Nov 24, 2015 24:50 PM

          Sorry to hear Tony, corruption everywhere it seems.

          Nov 24, 2015 24:00 PM

          Mr. Irish,

          The key above is, “still a God loving Christian”.

          Thanks man

      Nov 24, 2015 24:05 PM

      Jim,

      Please realize that the entire Korelin family agrees with you as do many other Catholics. I cannot believe that tragedy occurred as it did.

        bb
        Nov 24, 2015 24:21 PM

        I understand Al, the thing is, there have been a lot of psychopaths rise to positions of authority in the church, as well as nations companies etc etc.
        Its our species, for some reason we put or allow psychopaths positions of power over us.

        Ultimately we are going to have to learn to deal with it, they have too many big bombs to play with now, too much power.

        But to deal with anything, we first have to accept the situation, we got psychopaths, they kinda like cooties, they get on ya, burrow in and are tuff to get rid of.

          Nov 24, 2015 24:01 PM

          Very well said, bb!

          As we discussed last evening with some friends, “free will can work in a negative way. It is the choice of the person”.

            bb
            Nov 24, 2015 24:28 PM

            Evil only grows when good does nothing.
            Free will all over the place.

            My suggestion is the free will freely decides to accept we got psychopaths.
            Big change from free will freely deciding to ignore psychopaths.

    Nov 24, 2015 24:07 PM

    JIM it is all smoke and mirrors these days. Just today I have declined as a pensioned cleric to complete a CRB (criminal records) check – a requirement of all clergy be they retired or in full time ministry and something undertaken every 3 years. Although in theory this looks commendable enough, it’s a demeaning farce – pure tokenism whereby the serious paedophile priest will carry on fooling the system regardless. By my refusal to partake in this process I debar myself from taking services in church (something I no longer do anyway). But if other retired clergy adopted a similar stance and said No to CRB checks treating them as a neo-Orwellian and expensive diversion, the Church of England would all but grind to a halt. But no, the sheeple blindly acquiesce while we further sell our freedoms under the banner of political correctness.

      Nov 24, 2015 24:13 PM

      GOOD FOR YOU ANDY……….

        Nov 24, 2015 24:14 PM

        YOU do not need a license to spread the truth………..

          JIM
          Nov 24, 2015 24:28 PM

          FRANK,

          Well said.

          All The Best,

          JIM

            Nov 24, 2015 24:35 PM

            Thanks JIM……..and all the best to you and Happy Thanksgiving.

            JIM
            Nov 24, 2015 24:59 PM

            FRANK,

            Thanks for the Thanksgiving wishes. Same to you, my friend.

            All The Best,

            JIM

            PS: Just in case you missed it, I answered your question from yesterdays post as to who, is Monty Guild.

            Nov 24, 2015 24:15 PM

            Thanks for the post………

          Nov 24, 2015 24:04 PM

          No Indy, you do not need a license to spread the truth. You only need faith and an honest spirit!

            Nov 24, 2015 24:23 PM

            and personal courage…

      JIM
      Nov 24, 2015 24:27 PM

      ANDREW,

      I APPLAUD you for standing-up for your rights and wish others, when confronted, would show the same courage & strength you did. CONGRATULATIONS.

      All The Best,

      JIM

      Nov 24, 2015 24:41 PM

      A hat tip to you Andrew….Its a shame we have not got a lot more like you in every religion…….May your GOD buy you a large one when you meet him.

      Nov 24, 2015 24:03 PM

      So sorry about your experience. Political correctness can be absolutely ridiculous in that many simply do not use their heads!

    Nov 24, 2015 24:31 PM

    What ever happened to turn the other cheek, love thy neither, love they enemy, etc.? This is why I don’t vote and I don’t do religion. All a bunch of BS!

      Nov 24, 2015 24:41 PM

      Jason……can you really say….you do all the above….turn the other cheek, love they neighbor as yourself(regardless of color, same sex ,other sects.) love they enemy.

        Nov 24, 2015 24:44 PM

        Of course you can not………..no judgement , but fact. There is no perfect human. BAR NONE.

      Nov 24, 2015 24:06 PM

      Love thy neighbor and love thine enemy are impossible tasks for evil people who are simply looking out for themselves.

    Nov 24, 2015 24:32 PM

    What ever happened to turn the other cheek, love thy neighbor, love they enemy, etc.? This is why I don’t vote and I don’t do religion. All a bunch of BS!

    Nov 24, 2015 24:33 PM

    That’s neighbor.

    Nov 24, 2015 24:18 PM

    Monty Guild is a buddy of Sinclair… and Sinclair used to have his site on occasion on jsmineset. You can easily find it. He has always seemed very creditable…

      Nov 24, 2015 24:12 PM

      Hard to disagree with all of that article. But, I think that to call the Pope a Marxist is a bit over the edge.

        Nov 24, 2015 24:08 PM

        Well, no actually it wouldn’t be hard to disagree with the article.

        http://jaytaylormedia.com/fortune-mag-attacks-tom-woods-and-the-austrian-critique-of-the-popes-economics/

          Nov 24, 2015 24:20 PM

          Those who study these things for themselves know that the Austrian school of thought makes most sense. It’s not taught at many schools for a reason!

          Keynes and the rest exist(ed) to provide cover for the machine.

            Nov 24, 2015 24:23 PM

            Matthew, you’re missing the whole point. I’m not arguing for WHAT form of economic system is right, I’m pointing out the that your articles misrepresent the words of the Pope.

            You make it sound that when someone decides to study Austrian economics they suddenly become enlightened and know the solution to all the worlds problems. In other words, they make themselves out as knowledgeable “elitist” among the economic circles. There are others who would argue Austrian economics is wrong and is lacking, to which I am interested in hearing their opinions as well.

            Nov 25, 2015 25:53 AM

            Mark, when someone decides to study Austrian economics they DO become enlightened. No one is claiming that Austrians have the solutions to the world’s problems.

            Those who don’t get what’s wrong with “Keynesian experts like Paul Krugman are chumps.

            Those who think that socialism in any form is a good thing don’t know economics or history nor right from wrong. Socialism is based on violence not charity!

            Nov 25, 2015 25:35 AM

            Matthew,

            So, I guess that means I’m “enlightened” since I’ve been reading about Austrian economics off and on for the last two years. I’m NOT disagreeing with your statements regarding the effects of Socialism, NOR IS THE CHURCH. I’M TALKING ABOUT MISREPRESENTATION of what someone else is saying. I’M NOT ADVOCATING the Catholic Church, or ANY Church has the knowledge and true understandings of economics. That’s NOT their line of work. That should be left up to those who study such fields and relying upon history.

            Marxism has been a MAJOR enemy of mankind and an extreme antagonist towards any religious philosophy. To claim that the Pope is advocating for something that is so horrible, is either a gross misunderstanding, or simply a desire to willfully not want clarity. Sorry, Matthew, I know you have your beliefs but I honestly think you are simply taking for granted what you think something or someone says. The Pope is advocating for the world to come together and work on resolving economic issues. Presenting the concept of Austrian economics to him is what some Catholics are attempting to do. Pope Francis even admits he is not an economists and wants criticism from this area because he desires to know what is best. But to claim he is a “Marxist” because you simply want to view his words through your perception is a bid unfair. I’m going to agree to disagree with your opinion.

            Nov 25, 2015 25:36 AM

            By the way, I hope you have a good Thanksgiving. Stay safe.

    Nov 24, 2015 24:27 PM

    Pope Francis Contradicts Himself on Religious Liberty and Capitalism

    https://mises.org/library/pope-francis-contradicts-himself-religious-liberty-and-capitalism

    Nov 24, 2015 24:33 PM

    Tom Woods, a catholic, had this to say more than 18 months ago:

    “On economics, the news is not so good: although the new pope rejected the liberation theology that was so fashionable in Latin America, he blames “neoliberalism” for various social ills. This makes him no worse than his predecessor, and indeed no worse than most economists. The problem with neoliberalism is the “neo,” not the liberalism: central banks, fiat money, and supranational institutions managing the economy are not the free market, and confusing the two can lead to a great deal of faulty economic and moral analysis.”

    http://tomwoods.com/blog/the-new-pope/

      Nov 24, 2015 24:19 PM

      As the article states at the end: “Holy Father the only thing about religious freedom is the right to disagree.”

      Big Al completely agrees.

    Nov 24, 2015 24:41 PM

    Pope Francis Doesn’t Understand Economics: Judge Andrew Napolitano
    Pope is a “communist and a Marxist” who has “assaulted matrimony” in a “rejection of his papal role,” says leading Catholic libertarian.

    https://reason.com/reasontv/2015/09/20/judge-napolitano-us-pope-francis-papal

      Nov 24, 2015 24:30 PM

      I watched the entire interview and I, of course, agree with Judge Napolitano. I have to say that my hackles to get up when someone compares the Pope to someone who has to bear responsibility for the slaughter that took place in Russia. And, I would have to say that Karl Marx did that.

      JIM
      Nov 24, 2015 24:32 PM

      MATTHEW,

      The judge rocks!! His show was the only thing on FOX News I could ever stomach to watch (the replacement show was horrendous). I still find the shows cancellation timing very coincidental. From what I remember, it was practically the only positive air time Ron Paul was getting from anyone at the time. Yet, he was still having more people show up at his rally’s by an easy 4 or 5 to 1 ratio. The judge and Ron Paul made the GOP boys extremely nervous, so they made the call to FOX and cancelled his show. IDIOTS!!

      All The Best,

      JIM

      All The Best,

      JIM

        Nov 24, 2015 24:41 PM

        I agree Jim!

    Nov 24, 2015 24:43 PM

    Devout Catholic Judge Napolitano Blasts Marxist Pope Francis As A ‘False Prophet’; Here’s Why

    “Judge Andrew Napolitano, a devout Roman Catholic, delivered a scorching rebuke of Pope Francis, labeling him as a “false prophet” for promoting “the political agenda of the atheistic left,” and for “leading his flock to a dangerous place,” a place “where there is more central planning and less personal liberty,” instead of focusing on matters of spirituality and morality — conditions of the heart.”

    Read more:
    http://politistick.com/devout-catholic-judge-napolitano-blasts-marxist-pope-as-a-false-prophet-heres-why/

    Nov 24, 2015 24:45 PM

    PERTH MINT CLOSED?…………sgtreport………no pricing on site……..says site closed., is it just closed for the day?

    Nov 24, 2015 24:57 PM

    Off topic:

    The Global War on Terror is The Greatest Racket of All Time

    “War is a racket. However, most people are blissfully unaware of how big a racket it actually is. It is in fact the greatest scam ever – even the more recent “climate change” scam is comfortably put in the shade by it.”

    http://www.acting-man.com/?p=41465

      Nov 24, 2015 24:34 PM

      Oh yeah, “a bit bigger than I thought”!

    Nov 24, 2015 24:01 PM

    And now, the best horse race ever…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUnlHzjcBGY
    (Rated R)

    Nov 24, 2015 24:36 PM

    “Keep the phucking house and I am out of here”!

    Nov 24, 2015 24:45 PM

    Al:
    This is a page a bright person wouldn’t touch. Having never been in that category, I’m free to comment.
    I happen to appreciate the Pope and his efforts so far. I’m not Catholic but I do think the world needs to see more expressions of humbleness and he’s been one of the best. Few can argue with his overall comments on compassion and love. It’s impossible for him to make all of the Church’s sins right. He should only be held accountable for his part in its history. No different than we who will sit down to a bountiful dinner and claim Thanksgiving came to us from a Puritan beginning that meant nothing but good, while the facts are they slaughtered the native population and burned not a few women in their midst as witches. How about we all simply pray that our actions tomorrow and forward don’t add to the demented situations that abound in our world. A Happy Thanksgiving to all.

    Nov 24, 2015 24:58 PM

    Wow, what a thread! I know a lot of Catholics that are great people, but the Vatican ain’t exactly what it always ” pretended ” to be!
    Francis might be good, but I look at him as a Public Relations Manager”.

    The church needs someone to hold the imaginary glue together! The church might need a bit of spiritual healing too. Hiding the scrolls and trying to manage spirituality won’t bode well, in the end..
    And the ” version ” of the King James Bible written by Shakespeare is a bit of a clue, no??
    Well.. Unless you answer to the king and queen.. ( uh, No )

    Jesus is real! The king doesn’t need to tell me that! ( in his version )

      Nov 25, 2015 25:00 AM

      Yep…..quite a thread. It has more comments than any of the blogs from Tuesday that actually dealt with resource investing (the point of this site) for 3 reasons:

      1) People just love to argue about things like politics and religion, but nobody ever convinces anyone to think a different way….they just fight or dismiss. (the fight or flight response)

      2) These are very emotional topics and deep seated belief systems that people can’t help but react to, and then logic & manners go right out the window. If people really lock horns then it usually goes downhill from there with accusations, name calling, and nasty exchanges. (I’m pretty positive it doesn’t help anyone become a better resource investor either)

      3) Most people don’t have many stock ideas, trading strategies, investment trends, or research to offer, and just want to debate the most controversial charged topics.

      It would be the same if this was a cooking blog. Most people probably wouldn’t share many recipes, tips, or tools of the trade….and probably will just go out to eat. However, if a good ole’ fashioned political or religious or moral opinion topic surfaced……Yee-haw! then the people come out of the woodwork with their amazing opinions. (it’s exhausting)

      It is a futile effort to prognosticate to people on a blog for a few minutes your opinion, and think it will achieve anything worthwhile. It flies in the face of a lifetime of the other party’s conditioned and repetitively ingrained view of the world, so it is like talking to a brick wall or and enraged lunatic.

      *This is why I mentioned a number of times earlier in the year that EVERY TIME people get on a religious or overly political debate on here, (or any blog for that matter), it gest waaaayyyy off in left field, off topic, and all the neuroses, conditioned belief systems, and “team this…” or “team that…..” philosophy or opinion comes out of the woodwork. Then the opposing team has to voice their opinion to defend their belief system, and usually already has their feathers ruffled due to someone else’s point of view. Hundreds of comments later, everyone is thoroughly pissed off with one another, and some get their panties in a wad and leave. (wow, what a community builder and family atmosphere that creates)

      People cling to their inherited and conditioned belief systems which have been entered on the keyboard of their conscious mind by their parents, teachers, preachers, peers, and community starting at birth. It is very difficult for people to break free of this conditioned view of the world and truly have original thoughts on the matter. Typically it takes an extreme event (major illness, death of a loved one, near death experience, dramatic moment of realization triggered by a catalyst strong enough to snap them out of it….)

      If someone is fortunate enough to have some event in their life that causes someone to finally start questioning the world around them, break free of their conditioned belief system with (Team this or Team that), and get a truly unbiased and balanced approach, then real seeking and learning can start to take hold.

      It is unlikely such an experience will transpire on a resource investing blog, so why even go there?

        Nov 25, 2015 25:37 AM

        Cool. So I have an idea then. Watch Yamana. It is showing a very nice inverse head and shoulders and if it takes off then odds are miners will be on the move higher because this one is leading right now. It is already up more than 15% in the past few days so a pattern breakout could be in the cards very soon.

          Nov 25, 2015 25:32 PM

          Yes, Yamana has been on a tear and broke above its 50 day MA. I trimmed yesterday and wasn’t expecting it to keep charging today, but it was all over the place this morning. From a close of $2.07 yesterday, it shot down to $1.98, then up to $2.12, and not splitting the difference at 2.06. Still it was a very nice move the last few days, and encouraging that the miners are showing strength.

          May you have a prosperous rest of the week.

            Nov 25, 2015 25:34 PM

            Thank you. But be careful. Gold is at serious risk of a break down to 1050 between the first few days of December so we won’t count any chickens before they hatch. Between now and then some of these stocks may just meander and bide their time.

            Nov 25, 2015 25:49 PM

            Agreed. That is why I trimmed into the strength yesterday. I’ve been waiting to see if $1065 would get tested again, since it held as recent support as expected. The next target down below that is $1044.70, but I am thinking Gary & Doc may be correct that it may be on the front end of the FOMC meeting in mid-December.

            Until then, I’m just swing trading the counter-trend blip and pops.

        Nov 25, 2015 25:28 PM

        Sorry, Shad

        it’s my fault. I’ll take responsibility for it.

          Nov 25, 2015 25:14 PM

          No fault to be placed and no need to apologize Mark Alan. This is just a pattern that develops each time any group of people get into a discussion about topics that other people feel very passionately about.

          In particular Political topics like refugees, Israel/Palestine, the Middle east, or Moral debates like abortion/planned parenthood/gay marriage, or Religious debates of most stripes will cause quite an uproar in most blogs or in-person discussions.

          These are charged topics, people feel very strongly, and often the conversation breaks down in unresolved differences. They are also really personal topics, and people get easily offended and judge others unrelated information because of their views. In my experience these charged topics usually do much more to divide people along their ideological differences, than uniting them along common ground.

          We used to host marketing seminars with 30-400 people in a room each weekend, and we asked the speakers not to go too extreme in political or religious opinions or controversial topics from the stage for just these reasons. We were there for marketing concepts, not a sermon or political platform, and if people got miffed due to an off-color comment, they often dismissed the rest of the great information presented.

          Of course, speakers would get up and remark how unashamed they were for their beliefs and would air them publicly anyway, and then certain members wouldn’t come back anymore. It was sad, because often the speaker had many great points, but isolated 25-50% of their audience by going a little too deep in their belief….which is still just their opinion (no matter how right they thought they were or how driven by spirit to testify that they were).

          Now if people wanted to go out for a cup of coffee or a beer afterwards with the speaker and discuss things outside of a public forum, then sure, but you still had to be considerate even in a more intimate environment. In a public format with a theme like marketing (or in this case Resource Investing) it is not a great avenue to debate religion / politics / and what one person sees as moral or immoral. There are specialty niche websites, groups, and clubs for doing just that already that cater to exactly these kinds of discussions. (They still have plenty of arguing too btw 🙂

          I’m all for people saying what they want and freedom of speech and expression, but there is also manners, tact, and good decorum. This is Big Al & Cory’s site and they will moderate things as they see fit, and since it is their private site they can censor comments or block users if they want to, and no it doesn’t infringe on your federal rights to free speech, because it their business. For people that want to wail and rail about their right to discuss anything anywhere, please remember that. If it really was truly freedom of expression on this site, the we’d still have Franky/Xiang Xang, Heavy Hitter, and James the Lesser posting their free expression. The reason we don’t see them posting is because people were offended, complained, and they did not exercise good manners or decorum towards the other posters (or people just didn’t like their message because they disagreed with it philosophically – which is where the real anger came from).

          It has been discussed many times in the past on this site that these kinds of discussions, while having good intent at the onset, lead to countless debates & arguments that may deter new & old visitors that come here for an interest in investing in the resource sector and broader market commentary. There has always been a political component (but that is where many of the arguments tend to break out), but when kept at a macro level and tied in to how it may affect the markets, it is still relevant and not so controversial or offensive.

          I’m sure people will continue to fight and argue, and continue to beat on their chests that their view is the best or right or divine…..but they are all just opinions, and they’ll usually cause an argument with a co-worker, family member, or group of people. Why anyone thinks they can convert people on-line on a blog to a new way of thinking or justify their moral/political/religious pride is beyond me.

          To each their own I guess…..

            Nov 25, 2015 25:38 PM

            Whisperer – You’re taking the discussion to an absurd place and I debated not even responding because your response is so over the top.

            The point was in a public forum with a specific focus (like Resource Investing, or a Cooking Blog, or an Auto Mechanic blog) that opening up controversial Political/Moral/Religious debates don’t fit the target audience, and end up doing little good, but creates endless arguments, preaching/defending/name calling/and people getting all worked up. If you want to color outside the lines and get controversial then visit another blog geared around that kind of thing.

            Nov 25, 2015 25:52 PM

            Well you’re new around hear Bird Listener….I mean Whisperer. (Sorry you remind me of someone that did think he owned the site)

            You may have missed this valid point by another poster that felt the same way just 2 months ago after a 2 posters duked it out and totally disrupted the blog. It started over controversial religious statements, and here’s the response it elicited:
            ________________________________________________________________________
            On September 18, 2015 at 10:34 am,
            Jay says:

            Al I agree and am glad things have been more civil as of late (for the most part) . I do think a lot of this stuff comes up every time you guys allow religion on here without any kind of misnomer (I realize you state on occasion your involvement with bible studies etc).

            As I’m sure you’re aware you have a very large audience these days, a number of which are definitely not Christian . Speaking for myself I cone here for some of the excellent debates and fantastic LOGICAL analysis put forth by yourself, Cory, and your countless intelligent and knowledgeable guests / analysts . But it’s a big turn off when things like Chris T start referencing bible quotes in an otherwise great conversation. Of course you can manage this stuff however you like as its your site but I think it’s dishonest to do so as such:

            I.e. if you decided to rename your site as say “Korelin Christian economics” or Korelin Economic report for Christians” for example,
            noone be it Muslim, atheist, agnostic, jewish or whatever could raise issue with these things being brought up.. you might lose a certain portion of your audience who are looking for unbiased and strick economic / investment info , but at least it would be honest (and I’m sure the Christian followers would be even more kereport dogmatic).

            • On September 18, 2015 at 10:47 am,
            Jay says:

            I suppose the point I’m making Al is I certainly have no prob with anyone wanting to believe that stuff if they feel it is necessary and truly makes their lives better, for myself (I can’t speak for others as perhaps their experiences are different) I’ve seen too much evidence that proves Jesus never existed for me to go back to Christianity that regardless of how the bible is quoted in the context of your blog or commentators, my view on that won’t change (as I’m sure yours won’t so why mention any of that stuff on the reports (you or Chris etc don’t need to reaffirm your Christian beliefs to yourselves and it does nothing to constructively add to the blog so why bring it up?) Jm 2c
            ______________________________________________________________

            We have countless other examples but Jay was making the same point, and I don’t believe he was advocating turning the blog into a Chinese ant farm.

            Nov 25, 2015 25:08 PM

            Rather than pontificate about how people react in the face of a charged religious and moral debate, I’ll show you the 2-3 days of posts that caused Jay to write that to Big Al. I think this example will illustrates what happens when there is not some focus, and when posters run wild. Since you are “new” Whisperer, you can find these shows on Sept 16-18 as an example of things I hope we never have to see again on this blog.
            ……..except for one more time illustrate the point
            ______________________________________________________________________
            On September 16, 2015 at 11:39 pm,
            A Listener says:

            Bill, there is nothing that can be done here anymore.
            We cannot control what Al does. We cannot change Cory either. We can only control our own actions and responses. A site boycott is the only answer to these kinds of attacks.

            I encourage every reader who comes here daily and who is offended by Heavy Hitter to stop posting on this site. Just don’t participate anymore. The message will not register otherwise.

            Let that moron post messages to himself.

            Anyway, there are better managed sites. This one has gone in the shitter because the Korlelin crowd cannot effectively manage their own business……

            • On September 16, 2015 at 2:02 pm,
            A Listener says:

            Sorry. I cannot stand this Troll behavior from this guy anymore. Al actually welcomed him back so not much chance he will be stopped. He adds NOTHING to any conversation about investing but only badgers and threatens people or spouts sh*t about Jesus and the end of the world.

            I have been reading Gary Savages site though. He gets more than a hundred comments a day and most are market talk from traders. Maybe Gary just gives the heave-ho to the idiots before they get entrenched so its a cleaner site.
            And no Jesus freaks.

            • On September 16, 2015 at 4:14 pm,
            Big Al says:

            Already cut two of his comments today, the Listener.

            • On September 16, 2015 at 2:18 pm,
            A Listener says:

            Freaks is right. This place gets a boycott until HH is gone for good. The only reason to come here is to listen to the interviews with Rick, Gary, Doc and Chris. No more comments though. The morons in the peanut gallery run the show here.
            I am out.

            On September 17, 2015 at 4:00 pm,
            A Listener says:

            Sure Al. But I have a question for you too, Why did you even allow him to start posting again? What possessed you to welcome him back? Last time this happened you let it carry on for months until the site became utter chaos. Would it really seem a surprise to you that anyone here (myself for example) would lose their temper about a troll being allowed to start posting the same kind of provocations and personal garbage material that started the problem in the first place?
            On September 17, 2015 at 5:05 pm,

            A Listener says:
            Don’t bother answering. I don’t want to hear it, tell the truth.

            • On September 17, 2015 at 5:23 pm,
            Big Al says:

            Who are you referring to?

            • On September 18, 2015 at 12:17 am,
            A Listener says:

            Referring to you.

            So what happened to your spam filter? Looks to me it has a big gaping hole in it.

            • On September 17, 2015 at 5:49 pm,

            A Listener says:

            By the way, thanks for getting rid of that Troll. I wore myself out with an epic crusade of ranting and cursing to make my point and make sure he would get the eviction he so rightfully deserved but I would not have the energy to go through that again.

            I hope you will give your word not to allow him to return again.

            • On September 17, 2015 at 6:45 pm,
            HEAVYHITTER says:

            AL and A Listener
            Who cares about a forum full of heretics.
            With you two chief heretics leading the
            charge makes its a place of heresies and
            abominations.
            Enjoy your glory while it lasts. This is the
            place I don’t want to ever come in contact
            with. LOL LOL a fools paradise !

            On September 17, 2015 at 11:23 pm,
            HEAVYHITTER says:

            Here’s the full post with AL. ..A Listener answered AL and forget to use A Listener.
            Instead caught using his alias to compliment himself in here all the time. GrizzlyOne

            On September 17, 2015 at 3:23 pm,
            Big Al says:

            Thanks for this comment A Listener.

            I have to ask you to continue to remain civil. I have put all of HH’s comments into the spam category. So he will not be able to post in the future.

            Comments from him that are really irrelevant to this site and only personal in nature have made a lot of people very angry and I have received numerous e-mails about them.

            On September 17, 2015 at 3:31 pm,
            GrizzlyOne says:
            Thanks!

            • On September 18, 2015 at 10:46 am,
            A Listener says:

            Where is Birds blessing Andrew? I thought priests were more open minded, forgiving and tolerant.

            • On September 18, 2015 at 11:03 am,
            HEAVYHITTER says:

            Sign up. This is your blessing
            anger-detox

            • On September 18, 2015 at 11:50 am,
            A Listener says:

            How much do you really hate Al and this site Andrew? You sure you want to side with Trolls?

            On September 18, 2015 at 10:06 am,
            Andrew de Berry (Rev) says:

            Al, I don’t want to be drawn into name-calling. But I agree HH does goes off on tangents that for most on this site make little or no sense. I’ve always made my differences known to him on that score. However he’s shone a laser in a certain direction that too many people (openly or tacitly) would agree with. Birdman alias listener or whoever he is has, when he’s not making interesting if not informed comments caused enormous offense over the three years that he’s been posting.

            Shad drew our attention to this some weeks back with an extensive list of Bird’s obscenities and/or where he’s shown utter contempt for other people’s opinions. In my opinion this is unlikely to stop, even if listener reigns himself in for a while.
            Whilst I’m sure you’ve not made yourself look foolish by virtue of your ever-gracious manner towards one and all, I hope none of us look foolish by cutting BM slack while banishing HH. Because for all his eccentricities (as I would see them) I regard

            HH as a friend and don’t care who knows it. On an earlier occasion I asked you to call back HH which you did and which, to my mind is fine by me if he is allowed to return. After all Birdman/Listener has yet to suffer such an ignominy.

            • On September 18, 2015 at 10:44 am,
            A Listener says:

            Your pet got kicked off the site Andrew. I win.

            • On September 18, 2015 at 10:55 am,
            HEAVYHITTER says:

            Only a click away buddy
            anger-detox

            BTW…getting removed from a site does not stop someone
            from posting. In less than 15 minutes that banned person
            can be posting once again.

            On September 16, 2015 at 8:48 pm,
            A Listener says:

            Sorry Al, I don’t have the time, energy, patience or interest in fending off hourly attacks from obvious trolls who come to your site and are never dealt with. It was your choice to allow HH to start posting here again and in effect you are showing disrespect for all the people who do post seriously and regularly on the daily topics.

            I sometimes wonder if you even read the garbage that he spews. Virtually every single post is bile launched against one person or another and NONE of it is ever on topic. Here is a perfect example:

            On September 16, 2015 at 6:19 pm,
            HEAVYHITTER says:

            Bill, go pass your gas somewhere else.
            Your nothing but a traitor, backstabber
            and useless wannabe dreamer.
            Take your insults with you too.
            YOU HEAR ME……DAWG !!!!
            Get out of my sight !!!! U.. Low caliber P.O.S.
            UR….Nothin but a swamp shooter…A.O. M.F.er”

            Are you serious man? Is that what now passes as acceptable on this site? And so what that you delete two or three of his posts when a 100% are in the same vein of troll commentary. Right now I have a big loss of confidence in you and Cory for allowing the bile to continue this past three days and putting everyone else through it.

            HH is a troll. You kicked him off once already and now you let him back in. That’s where I draw the line because your word is no good anymore and I am sure as hell not putting up with that guy tailing me around every day with bizarre twisted personal attacks.

            That’s why I won’t be adding any more commentary.

            • On September 17, 2015 at 2:06 am,
            A Listener says:

            F__K OFF……..F__K OFF……..F__K OFF for good!

            • On September 17, 2015 at 2:11 am,
            HEAVYHITTER says:

            Ha..Ha…you are mentally ill.
            Full of demons !!!

            Actually, its not funny.
            You need to seek professional help . A.S.A.P.

            • On September 17, 2015 at 2:27 am,
            A Listener says:

            I know when I am up against the forces of sickness and satanic behavior. Today is one of those days and I will fight back no matter what it takes even if that includes cursing you.

            TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            • On September 17, 2015 at 2:38 am,
            HEAVYHITTER says:

            LOL LOL

            On September 16, 2015 at 11:52 pm,
            A Listener says:

            The Korelin Report just went on the skids. Comment section is piss. I have no respect for you guys anymore.

            • On September 17, 2015 at 12:50 am,
            Vortex says:

            Listener,
            I know your frustrated and it’s clear in your tone and content. I think its best you just take a deep breath and understand that people are just set in their ways and sometime’s feel the need to defend uncouth behavior on the part of those they feel a kinship with.

            Some folks just love the mind games and keeping things in a flux.
            What are you going to do, if it’s tolerated at the executive ownership level.
            Contemplate the value of the resource/content in the bigger picture and is it worth you limited time.
            V

            • On September 17, 2015 at 1:04 am,
            A Listener says:

            If it were not for Doc, Rick, Chris and Gary I would NEVER come here. I am totally put off by the mealy mouth nonsense from Al and Cory. Bunch of bullshit.

            On September 17, 2015 at 12:17 am,
            Andrew de Berry (Rev) says:

            Vortex to some extent I agree. We’ve got to keep a sense of humour over our differences. You and I have both been infuriated by some of the posts in the past, but we move on….’sticks and stones may break my bones’ and all that. However I for one enjoy a lot of what HH says…he’s funny, incisive and above all there to remind us that everything is vanity when it comes to voicing our opinions.

            • On September 17, 2015 at 12:23 am,
            A Listener says:

            That is because you have the same good sense as common road gravel.

            • On September 17, 2015 at 12:27 am,
            A Listener says:

            If the people who ran this show understood there is a revolt underway they would not give your opinions a moments thought Reverend. YOU are part of the problem for supporting trolls and troll behavior. You and Jerry are both petty, small minded, resentful angry people who care only for yourselves and never for the integrity of the site or those who attempt to contribute seriously.

            • On September 17, 2015 at 6:04 am,
            Frank from moscow CCF says:

            Hey BIRD BRAIN………..you are in Alexandia, where this is know biblically to only have 10% TRUTH………..read it for yourself…………..

            On September 17, 2015 at 12:29 am,
            A Listener says:

            If you can ignore the relentless attacks then you are an angel, Lawrence. The rest of us cannot abide by this bullshit anymore.

            On September 17, 2015 at 12:41 am,
            A Listener says:

            Vortex says:
            “Big Al,

            Unfortunately, the site is starting to devolve back to the crap-fest is was a couple of months ago. I hope you will put an end the scatter gun egomaniac troll that just can’t stay away.

            This place is so much better when his claptrap is put on lock down.
            THANK YOU VORTEX!!!!!! I wish more people like you with good sense would speak up. But you must understand that Al is a fault. He allowed HH to start posting again. It was a deliberate action, not an accident. it is also no accident he does NOTHING to stop it. So we are all wasting our breathe.

            It is why I advocate a boycott of this site until he pays attention.

            On September 17, 2015 at 12:45 am,
            A Listener says:

            In short Vortex, I no longer support this site because of the poor management.
            .
            On September 17, 2015 at 1:55 am,
            HEAVYHITTER says:

            A Listener. …I will gladly voluntarily sign off.
            This is completely outrageous and ridiculously
            an unproductive way for all of us to spend our
            time.

            If I had of known that one question to you would
            have caused you this much grief and then have
            it spill over to other parties such a Big AL …
            I tell ya…would not be posting here at all
            never mind asking you one question.
            WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED !!!!
            I apologize for even being here or existing for
            that matter.
            SORRY…good bye !!! My best to everyone
            but its not worth it. So long !!!!!!
            Ha..Ha….ADIOS !!!!!
            Peace to all !!! Finito ….

            On September 17, 2015 at 1:59 am,
            A Listener says:

            Get off you effing Troll and don’t come back!
            Asshole.

            On September 17, 2015 at 2:06 am,
            HEAVYHITTER says:

            You are a mentally ill and very sick individual.
            Scary…full of demons. Enjoy them !!!!

            On September 17, 2015 at 2:10 am,
            A Listener says:

            You will only quit when this site is destroyed.

            Jesus Christ, you are such an asshole!

            On September 17, 2015 at 8:07 am,
            bb says:

            I agree with you Listener.

            But my thinking is there are too many people into “jesus,god,the bible”, that will continue to support HH and who ever else uses those words.

            Just out of interest, Jay Taylor, who we all know, was discussing on his program investing in weopons manufacturing, saying it might be “justified” if profits got used for “good”.

            I really like his program but people might understand why Im a little cynical about religions.

            HH is here to disrupt, thats obvious, I emailed Al about that kinda bs years ago explaining what I felt would be the inevitable outcome were it allowed to continue.

            Well, sure enough. (how well the site was running during his absenece should be example enough for anyone)

            At one time I thought a good tactic might be to post versus a person really needs to be mentally challenged to find any validity or value in, but that would only encourage religious discussion.

            I think your absolutely right Listener, but its not gonna work. Mathew and supporters will make up for lost posts and Al will be able to continue to show advertisers he has the people to justify the advertising expense.
            The quality of content doesnt matter, its just numbers.

            On September 17, 2015 at 10:43 am,
            A Listener says:

            Thanks bb. Will do. We will have to wait and see what happens here. Right now there are no winners. The fighting makes everybody look bad. I just cannot believe that we can all read the same posts and some people here think that obvious destructive behaviors from trolls is somehow acceptable. Until one of us starts cursing out loud nobody even pays attention. If I were a sponsor and read the kind of shit that HH posts daily I would pull my funding and demand something be done since it makes everybody here look like GD fools. Anyway, I might go over to Gary’s site. There are traders there who post charts and bring insights about the market.

            They do a lot more than just idiotically write “Ditto” 10 times a day. This site has turned into rubble as a posting forum and is still infested with agenda driven gold retards. The goofs like Jerry suddenly support free speech but only when it is in their shallow agenda because one trouble poster is attacking another they don’t like. He does not support free speech. He only appreciates that other people are in conflict and he gets to stand by and enjoy the drama without wearing it himself or actually standing up for any real values. None of this was necessary though.

            I blame Al and Cory for being insincere about enforcing very basic posting rules. They think it is Christian ethics to turn the other cheek and show tolerance for repeated abuses of the site. Yeah….free speech…..its all OK even when we are being over-run by people intent on destroying what they are doing. So pathetic.
            Funny thing is but I am not even mad at HeavyHitter. It is Al and Cory who piss me off because they are so inconsistent and their words are worth zero.

            On September 17, 2015 at 10:54 am,
            Frank from moscow CCF says:

            The only goof here………is you..Tweety……The site was fine till you showed up three years ago.

            On September 15, 2015 at 10:37 pm,
            HEAVYHITTER says:

            Still waitin on Bentnail and Bill to show up.
            Those two characters. I’ll push on for now.
            I will definitely return for these two. I don’t
            know who’s worse Bentnail or Bill.
            They both need a working over.

            • On September 17, 2015 at 12:34 am,
            A Listener says:

            They both need a working over? How stupid are you anyway. And what an asshole you are for even threatening them.

            • On September 17, 2015 at 12:36 am,
            A Listener says:

            Oh wait….let me guess….JESUS wants you to do it. Because JESUS “works over” posters on the Ker report.

            On September 15, 2015 at 9:43 am,
            HEAVYHITTER says:

            Remember bb, you have your own free will
            to believe whatever you want.
            Don’t let me be your deterrent from a relationship
            with The Tooth Fairy. Very popular today. You are
            not alone. In fact, you have loads of company.
            Birds commentary has not changed. Fickle ? I believe so.
            Thats okay though. Retirement can be boring. Fake it…
            Till you make it. He does know his retirement business.
            Lots of credit there. Definitely in the right place.

            • On September 15, 2015 at 11:37 am,
            A Listener says:

            Looks like we went right back to this site being polluted with bullshit posts and troll comments again. Adios moron.

            • On September 15, 2015 at 11:46 am,
            HEAVYHITTER says:

            The truth enrages you.
            Ha…I thought you were ..A Listener…
            The post was addressed to Bird.
            Who you callin a moron.
            Still rackin up demerits. LOL LOL

            • On September 15, 2015 at 12:12 pm,
            HEAVYHITTER says:

            Chew on that for a while Mr. Bird Know It All.
            LOL LOL Thanks for the laughs too.
            Its been a real pleasure !!!!!!

            Nov 25, 2015 25:17 PM

            So, we can either have some basic guidelines and a general focus of Resource Investing, or we can have a free for all. I don’t know about you, but those comments were a distraction to everyone on the site at the time, and it pains me to have to post them again as a reminder of what happens when there is not moderation and common respect from one poster to another.

            These kinds of debates don’t break out because of someone posting a chart, or an index or discussing a mining or oil stock. They break out when politics, religion, race, and moral issues come up. Just something to mull over…..

            Peace out.

            Nov 25, 2015 25:47 PM

            We are making a decision on this right now Excelsior

            Nov 25, 2015 25:02 PM

            Thanks for the well thought out comment, Excelsior.

            Big Al

        Nov 25, 2015 25:00 PM

        Pretty good point Excellcior!

          Nov 26, 2015 26:12 AM

          Thanks Big Al. I actually really enjoy discussing spirituality with people of many religious faiths, and like talking with my close friends about political developments or heated topics. However, on a public forum, people just can’t help but broadcast their beliefs, which would be fine if it didn’t cause so many arguments, fights, and hurt feelings almost every time it is brought up.

          This is the same thing that happened when people on this site started debated Israeal vs Palestine and Jews versus Zionists. Many people have interesting positions, but it got ugly real fast, and people got upset and offended and quit posting here because of it. Of course, the world has become overly PC and too concerned with offending people and I get that argument not to cave in to that pressure. However, when controversial topics come up that people are very passionate about, then the discussion veers off very quickly from fellow investors sharing ideas and cutting up a little, to a heated argument where people stop treating one another with respect, the name calling begins, and it degrades from there.

          It’s the same on any blog really when these charged topics come up. When the issue of race and police profiling comes up in the main stream media, and you read a blog under one of those articles and most of them are people arguing and insulting each other. If you look at a Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton news piece and then read the blog underneath, it quickly erodes from politics to insulting behavior. If you look at an article on immigration on the mainstream media, then the comments underneath in the blog usually go off the rails and it becomes a cesspool of negative comments and poster attacking one another’s beliefs.

          There are just plenty of outlets covering those kinds of stories if people want to wade in and have their voice heard, but there are very few outlets for resource investing and good economic discussions. The KER site is unique in the quality of your guests on the weekend shows, the regular commentators Gary, Chris, Rick and Doc, and the group of very savvy and intelligent investors. This is likely why most people are attracted to the site if they find it on Kitco or in searching for info on Gold/Silver/Oil/Currencies/general markets/bonds and macro economics or global political developments that effect the marketplace.

          I’ll be a fan of your site whatever topic is covered, but the investment topics or overall macro politics (like Cory’s articles on Emerging Markets) rarely cause much of stir or have wounded feelings after. However, more people do participate in the controversial topics and seem to love the arguments and fighting, so it is clearly more popular than covering topics focused on investing.

          Regardless, have a Happy Thanksgiving, and I’m thankful you & Cory have a great site.

            Nov 26, 2015 26:00 AM

            Thanks Excelsior, I would guess that there will be no more politics and religion and No more heavy or Listener. Way to much aggravation.

            Nov 26, 2015 26:14 AM

            You’re a great man Big Al, and I’m sure whatever direction you and Cory decide to take things will be great. I was just offering up one opinion amongst many, and noted the correlation between the fights and political/moral/religious topics.

            As you often mention, there are a number of important political news events going on currently on the global stage. There are a number of great shows you’ve done with Glen Downs, Jeff Deist, and even Chris Temple & Doc that are political in nature that touch on economics, China, Russia, the Middle East, Europe, and N. America that many listeners really love. These topics do apply to the marketplace, to the direction the world is unfolding, and they are relevant and popular editorials.

            There are just certain topics that are Pandora’s Box when opened up, and they usually end in blog carnage. While the responses are often entertaining, one has to wonder if they are worth the trade off of running off long-time posters or new posters just so everyone can weigh in on “charged” topic.

            Even if you did nothing but cover controversial political stances, moral issues, and specific religious debates, I’ll personally still be a big fan of your site. (As mentioned earlier, I actually love all those topics). The main reason most are here though is your guest commentators unique views on investing.

            Cheers and good tidings to your family for the holidays.

            Nov 26, 2015 26:53 PM

            Thanks Excelsior an the same back.

    Nov 25, 2015 25:38 AM

    Yes Chartster!