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January 16, 2016

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    Jan 16, 2016 16:04 AM

    As per usual,
    Thanks for the weekend show fella’s,
    Much appreciated,
    Cheers.

      Jan 16, 2016 16:33 AM

      Thanks Al, Cory, Richard & Chris! Al you’ve made some comments recently that indicate some angst about your current investment positions; the advice of JP Morgan a century ago to an associate who was nervous about the market still holds true today (and I’m sure you’ve heard it before) – “Sell down to the sleeping level.” Protecting psychological capital is just as important as protecting investment capital.

        Jan 16, 2016 16:38 AM

        Power; outstanding comment.

          Jan 16, 2016 16:38 AM

          I second Doc’s comment, Power

        Jan 16, 2016 16:06 AM

        My two cents worth in a market like this is to respect your stops – even mental stops. And think nothing of whipsaws that result from selling at the wrong time. In the long run, you will be happier for having respected your stop level – or emotional pain threshold.

          Jan 16, 2016 16:38 AM

          Agree, Jay

        DC
        Jan 16, 2016 16:08 PM

        @Power – excellent quote. And your final sentence, absolutely true.

      Jan 16, 2016 16:37 AM

      Thanks Skeeta

    Jan 16, 2016 16:55 AM

    Ain’t that something!

    That’s awful! BUT HE TELLS US THAT EVERYTHING IS ALL RIGHT!

      Jan 16, 2016 16:39 AM

      Kind of silly, Mark

        Jan 16, 2016 16:57 AM

        What is…………and what happened to my posts?

          Jan 16, 2016 16:54 AM

          They appeared to be false and we trashed them.

            Jan 16, 2016 16:09 PM

            Thanks AL…You just gave me an idea for a big blockerbuster movie , & a title…A movie along the lines of Conan the Barbarian …”ALL THE THRASHER”…I might get big John Wayne to play the lead.

            Jan 16, 2016 16:19 PM

            If you can bring him down from Heaven, I will fly over to visit with you!

            Jan 16, 2016 16:53 PM

            AL…Whats he doing up there..auditioning for a part in the second coming !!!

            Jan 16, 2016 16:41 PM

            You never know!

            Jan 16, 2016 16:08 PM

            Hi AL…How are you & the family these days ?…You do know i’m just messing around.

            Jan 16, 2016 16:54 PM

            ALL should be AL.

    Jan 16, 2016 16:11 AM

    * The average 401k has lost $7,500 since the beginning of the year! -ABC NEWS
    Wow!

      Jan 16, 2016 16:06 AM

      Mark, I scaled back my Market exposure from 80% to 0 over the past 2 years in my TSP. Knew this was coming. I had 4% exposure up until Monday when I was down 5% on my 4%. That was my bail zone.

        Jan 16, 2016 16:53 AM

        Jason, sounds like a good plan to me! I been got out………..but I’m still long the dollar
        and I still own Amazon as well as physical gold and silver! So play it safe, it’s about to get real ugly!

      Jan 16, 2016 16:39 AM

      Wow, thanks Mark

    Jan 16, 2016 16:37 AM

    Hi Doc,
    Thanks again for you 401 K advice! I did get out of most of my stock positions early this week. One question I was looking UNFI a natual food company and the stock got killed last year. Can you tell me what you technicals are telling you on that stock.
    Regards Alan.

      Jan 16, 2016 16:02 AM

      Alan, I went all fed bonds in my TSP on Monday.

        Jan 16, 2016 16:28 AM

        Jason, seems like a safer bet for now 🙂 I have some exposure in bonds as well.

      Jan 16, 2016 16:46 AM

      Alan, UNFI technically took out the 200 week MA months ago and now is just about ready to sit on the 200 month MA and the odds are very good that pricing will take it out. If it does, the pricing of this stock will head toward 15-25.

    Jan 16, 2016 16:01 AM

    Mark, we don’t want to hear about the Index unless it drops to zero.

      Jan 16, 2016 16:53 AM

      It will.

    Jan 16, 2016 16:56 AM

    Dan Oliver’s interview was very interesting as well as being informative. It really gives a good overall perspective on the markets. Thanks Al for the great program!

      Jan 16, 2016 16:41 AM

      Thank you for your input also, Jay

      Jan 17, 2016 17:58 AM

      Mr Oliver is no expert on Bernie Sanders. He through out rhetoric with no substance. A good place to start would be last weeks article in USA Today where the author discusses Bernie Sanders position on the banking system and corruption. Sanders has positions on Wall Street far beyond any other candidate and should not be summarily blown off with labels.

        Jan 17, 2016 17:57 AM

        I personally do not blow him off David.

        Jan 17, 2016 17:44 PM

        Rhetoric without substance describes Bernie to a T. Mr. Oliver knows Sanders is no good because he understands economics and knows right from wrong.

        Wall Street and the big banks have NEVER feared the left — it’s just opposite. In fact, they are best served by the left’s competition-crushing regulations and taxes. Ever hear about Buffet’s “moat?” Sure, a few companies earn their moat in the marketplace but most simply buy one — and no one delivers like a well-greased lefty politician (many of whom are RINOs, btw).

        http://thehill.com/policy/finance/96587-ron-paul-says-bernie-sanders-qsold-outq-on-fed-amendment

          Jan 17, 2016 17:49 PM

          Glass Steagall. Gone. Various other restrictions on Wall Street under Bush. Gone. Goldman throughout the Administrative branch for 20 years. Citizens United destroyed the Supreme Court by the 5 conservatives. Buy the candidate us now the law. Karl Rove spin and deception is the rule. Your claims are false and misguided. The neocon oligarchs do not vote liberal. Misinformation and corruption has to recognized for what it is and it isn’t Sanders.

            Jan 17, 2016 17:31 PM

            David, I certainly appreciate you views.

            Sanders is definitely an interesting man who is strong in his beliefs. I also appreciate his lack of anger. Certainly a far better choice than Clinton.
            What is your opinion of Mr Biden?

            Jan 18, 2016 18:47 AM

            Al. I do not trust Biden to be any different than Clinton, Bush or Obama. Golden/CITI/JPM has been in the middle of all their Administrations with Biden sitting just outside the door for 7 years. No matter who becomes the nominees, I hope they have the guts to say there will be no Wall Street bankers in key positions. We have had enough Rubens, Summers, Paulsons, Geithner’s, Lews.. Etc. Need also to get Wall Street out of the regulaors (SEC/Justice/CFTC, etc)…So far only one candidate to consider as Rand Paul fades out. Biden can’t do anything but perpetuate the transfer of wealth and further destruction of the US and its Constitution.

          Jan 17, 2016 17:14 PM

          I knew you weren’t interested in facts. I really wish people like you would surprise me for a change.

          Bill Clinton defends repeal of Glass-Steagall
          http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/250838-bill-clinton-defends-repeal-of-glass-steagall

          More government = more theft = more left. Sorry David, the neo cons are economic lefties.

          Neither the Ds nor the Rs could care less about violating any of your rights. Guy’s like Bernie would cause the most harm to those who earned their money and provided jobs while doing so. He is no threat whatsoever to Wall Street’s elite. If he were, the media would treat him the way they treated Ron Paul. Think about it.

          The masses are too lazy to figure out that the actions of the two parties are far more alike than the silly rhetoric leads them to believe.

          I just love how the left calls society’s best and brightest greedy while the ignoramuses are the ones doing all the stealing. No one should call them liberals because they are not for freedom; they are totalitarian in all they do. How does anyone over twelve years of age not see that more government robs prosperity from society?

            Jan 18, 2016 18:59 AM

            Clinton and Robert Ruben of CITI got rid of Glass steagall and Clinton played dumb ever since. Cheney and Bush got rid of the rest and Obama stayed two faced and carried out the destruction. Obama with his over rides to the Constitution, preventing criminal prosecutions, preemptive strikes, torture, drone assasinations, and ongoing transfer of wealth is just another fascist working for the oligarchs.

        Jan 17, 2016 17:45 PM

        If you care about the facts, give them a try. You can start here:

        http://bernieiswrong.com/

        Jan 18, 2016 18:22 AM

        Good point, David. On Sanders I agree with you more than I do with Oliver.

        Jan 22, 2016 22:28 AM

        David – Matthew below is correct: the banks support left wing candidates for a reason. The way to rid us of the banking oligopoly is not by taxing “the rich” (e.g., in 1974 Sanders proposed a 100% marginal tax rate and he refuses to disclose his current proposed number other than to say it will be less than 90%), but to return to sound money.

    Jan 16, 2016 16:22 AM

    Not much change for the PMs on the COT report last week.

    Jan 16, 2016 16:25 AM

    I think I heard Cashin on cnbc say that the actual jobs created were 11,000 and the rest was just a seasonal adjustment.

    Jan 16, 2016 16:57 AM

    Re: Seg.3

    Seven years from gold’s October 2008 low is October 2015. The 2001 low happened 7.5 years earlier so if we get a repeat of that period between lows, gold will bottom around April, 2016.

    Jan 16, 2016 16:03 AM

    Does anyone think there will be a complete H&S pattern for the general markets before the next he decline?

    For example, the NASDAQ would have a 3-4 week rise to re-test the 4900-5000 area, then back down to thee neckline (4500-4600), then finally down to the 3900-4000 level to complete the reversal pattern?

      Jan 16, 2016 16:06 AM
      Jan 16, 2016 16:38 AM

      Brian, I’m focused on the much bigger one in play. The neckline was broken on an intraday basis last week and on a closing basis the week before (green neckline).

      http://schrts.co/8sui7E

        Jan 16, 2016 16:41 AM

        Two broken Schiff fork supports:

        http://schrts.co/yzRlMr

        Jan 16, 2016 16:48 AM

        Excellent chart ! This H&S pattern makes more sense to me. Just goes to show: Timeframe is important.

          Jan 16, 2016 16:05 AM

          The size of that Distribution Dome of Doom with a big H&S top embedded in it (18 months+), carries with it some very bearish implications:

          1.) a major top is in place;

          2.) a protracted bear market is likely;

          3.) the bear market low will be even lower than most bears expect.

            Jan 17, 2016 17:16 AM

            Good one…”Distribution Dome of Doom” — I might have to borrow that!

            Jan 18, 2016 18:25 AM

            Agreed on the size of the dome (rounded top) and the Head and Shoulders pattern for general markets marking a topping pattern.

            Jan 18, 2016 18:30 AM

            EX…………gold bounced off 1088………overnight………….lol

            Jan 18, 2016 18:36 AM

            NOMI P….at usawatchdog……………..usd…..the thing to watch concerning gold.

            Jan 18, 2016 18:44 AM

            Here is a new one………….SGE….might stop publishing how much gold is taken off the market. bullion star report…….Jan 11, 2016

            Jan 18, 2016 18:50 PM

            FFM – it’s amazing. I just went to check on the price of Gold in the early morning and it is still $1088. OK I concede it is has definitely been a congestion zone…. 🙂

            Matthew, good work targeting it. I felt $1083 was going to be more substantial for a support zone, but it was violated along with $1088 last week. However, $1088 has been a consolidation zone where a sharp move out of it is likely. For the sake of a few mining stocks I hold, I sure hope it is to upside. My thesis was that Gold would rally for January, and it did start off well, but is plateauing…..maybe it still has some legs left to run.

            Jan 18, 2016 18:51 PM

            FFM – it’s amazing. I just went to check on the price of Gold in the early morning and it is still $1088. OK I concede it is has definitely been a congestion zone…. 🙂

            Matthew, good work targeting it. I felt $1083 was going to be more substantial for a support zone, but it was violated along with $1088 last week. However, $1088 has been a consolidation zone where a sharp move out of it is likely.

            For the sake of a few mining stocks I hold, I sure hope it is to upside. My thesis was that Gold would rally for January, and it did start off well, but is plateauing…..maybe it still has some legs left to run.

    Jan 16, 2016 16:42 AM

    Hi Guys
    Doc,at what level (crude oil) would buy oil stocks for a Bounce,28-24?And can you tell me what youre technicals say about (AOI.ST) also listed in Canada (AOI.TO.)
    Thank you

      Jan 16, 2016 16:06 PM

      Pete, it appears that AOI will challenge the 1.60 area and in all likelihood that 1.50 area.

        Jan 16, 2016 16:15 PM

        Thank you Doc

    Jan 16, 2016 16:47 AM
    Jan 16, 2016 16:15 AM

    If it is a rumor, we are going to find out on Jan 21, 2017!

      Jan 16, 2016 16:53 AM

      Now that is true.

    Jan 16, 2016 16:13 AM

    If Dan Oliver’s economic studies are as slanted as his political comments, hope we never hear them. To call James Webb “only slightly less insane than the rest of the Democrat candidates,” is utterly reprehensible. When we get around to identifying ‘real Americans’, I’d say James Webb will be on the first page of names. For now, Dan Oliver, in my opinion, wouldn’t make a pimple on James Webb’s ass! Hope you guys don’t have to resort to more of his BS in order to make next week’s show.

    Jan 16, 2016 16:47 AM

    Terrorist attacks at the Splendid Hotel in Burkina Faso is Close to Iamgolds office.

      Jan 16, 2016 16:13 PM

      Thanks Pete, I did not know that.

    Jan 16, 2016 16:51 AM
      Jan 18, 2016 18:40 AM

      Interesting article…. The problems with the US alliance with Saudi Arabia have been highlighted by many, but the thesis in this piece is disturbing because it seems within the realm of probability.

    PF
    Jan 16, 2016 16:14 PM

    Hillary didn’t do anything criminal that deserves an indictment. Who care which email account she used? Voters don’t care about that. The only people who care are people who don’t like her. The same can be said about Ted Cruz being born in Canada or Obama not having a birth certificate. These are desperate attempts to discredit people based on unimportant issues that speaks nothing about their character or their policies.

      Jan 16, 2016 16:09 PM

      I believe that she did break government regulations. P llkm ease show me a credible source that says the opposite.

    Jan 16, 2016 16:48 PM

    If you look at the data we are already in a recession in manufacturing.

    Jan 16, 2016 16:13 PM

    you guys here are so full of BS
    Stop With cutting the postings!
    Corey?
    Yeah right

      Jan 18, 2016 18:38 AM

      I would agree with you on the cutting of the post……….jmho….if , you are going to cut something ………..cut out the peck…peck….peck….

        Jan 18, 2016 18:41 AM

        But, OWL, is the head …..of the ……….what should I say……..pecking order……lol

    Jan 16, 2016 16:19 PM

    the Baltic dry index has been dropping like a rock which portends more trouble ahead!

    Jan 16, 2016 16:29 PM

    FED suspends mark to market rule for energy debt. Not sure what will happen to the redemption of these funds. If people start to panic and sell, how do the funds deal with redemption without mark to market. They could just dry up. Any idea what will happen to the shorts of these funds. What will happen if energy companies need more money as they are having massive losses?

      Jan 16, 2016 16:33 PM

      We will look into this closely tomorrow Dragonitr

      LPG
      Jan 17, 2016 17:11 AM

      Dragonite,

      Two things.

      1) Saw the Zero article, and personally, I don’t see how the FED has a say in mark-to-market… but maybe I’m wrong on that one.

      2) Re: redemption of funds, I think you may be mixing things up between listed instruments and simple, direct loans between banks and their energy customers.

      My 2 cts.

      GL to all investing/trading.

      LPG

        Jan 17, 2016 17:50 AM

        I do not either LP G but I am doing a bit of research today as I try and stop caughing

        Jan 17, 2016 17:34 PM

        Thanks for the reply. I am not sure how this works. I hope someone can clear this up.

      Jan 18, 2016 18:27 AM

      Looks like there will be a few more bankruptcies…….on the way.

    Jan 18, 2016 18:45 AM

    GOLD over nite….bounced off 1088……..good sign. Platinum ratio 1.33 and at $815