Helicopter Money
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- Segment 1-2: Valentin Schmid, Business Editor at the Epoch Times, joins us to discuss the state of China and the concept of helicopter money.
- Segment 3: John Kaiser, Founder of Kaiser Research, focuses on gold production in the US and companies exploring in North America.
- Segment 4: Information on a company that has garnered a lot of attention recently, Skeena Resources TSX.V SKE.
- Segment 5: Managing Director at RBC Wealth Management, George Gero, details the open interest in gold and silver.
- Segment 6: Craig Hemke from TF Metals Report.com focuses on how silver is managing to hang up on days when gold sells off.
- Segment 7: Mining stock analyst, Jayant Bhandari, shares his outlook on the resource sector and a couple companies that he thinks are a good investment.
- Segment 8: Mises Institute President Jeff Deist provides the Mises perspective on helicopter money.
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Hi back at you Dennis !:)
Thanks for the show guys…much appreciated as per usual.
Cheers !
Again, thank you for your input!
http://content.blubrry.com/silverdoctors/Bill_Murphy_on_20_Silver.mp3
This time it’s different in silver.
CFS:
Head for the exits. It is never different.
Yes, things can be different, and usually are. There are many calls for a top on the way up from many gurus. And just an FYI…people do “know things”.
At every top in every market someone is saying, “This time it’s different.” but it never is.
The only thing remarkable about Murphy is that he has been wrong for 16 years and no one cares because he feeds their fantasies. Murphy is the ultimate contrary indicator.
This “time” depends on the concept of time.
The COMEX has always in recent memory controlled the price of Silver, and has never run out of silver.
As the world changes some “time” the COMEX may fail to have enough silver to meet demand. It is that “time” that will be different.
Is that “time” close? It feels to some (Bill Murphy) that it might be.
I don’t “know anything”, but there’s a whiff of blood in the water, so this shark is circling, hoping to find a meal.
https://soundcloud.com/kingworldnews/andrew-maguire-7162016/s-mNHoS
This time may be measured in months or even weeks (less likely on one hand I.e. More than 5) than in years.
Exactly Bob. It is not different this time and I agree with you on your comment about Murphy. No matter how we slice and dice it the world is still deflating and that should give us pause about every asset we want to own in the future.
Almost a sixth of the worlds bonds are now selling at negative rates and as they say, the bond market is usually right. Who in their right mind would accept zero rates or less over thirty years for example?
Well apparently the answer to that is a great many buyers since this market (bonds) is the largest single pool of money on the planet and it is sure not voting that inflation is about to break out anytime soon.
Can all those institutional and professional fund buyers all be so stupid that they would risk being ruined if 5, 10 or 15% inflation or similarly high interest rates were really coming within a time horizon of the next few decades?
I doubt it.
The market doubts it too and 90 trillion dollars of global paper yielding a measly couple of percent all the way down to negative rates is all the proof we need. Shoot, that kind of size and on those time lines (years to decades) almost guarantee we won’t get the inflation the bugs and Bill Murphy’s of the world are talking about anytime soon.
And the worlds demographic profile makes that guarantee almost iron-clad.
But what does that really mean for all of us in the next few years? I really don’t know except I am pretty sure something will have to bend of break along the way. Mish and Rick are probably right though. The pension system is screwed and it is screwed for good if the 30 year Treasury note is telling us anything we ought to pay attention too.
It means that low growth rates and flaccid demand are going to be perpetual problems we are facing and they will be with us for many years to come with little or no relief is in sight.
Sorry if I am getting a little side tracked. This has all happened before though. So you are right its not different. Its just that this is a new experience for all of us who have lived during the period of a spectacular economic boom.
And now we will get to witness it whither away as we all grow older.
No one, no entity can hold power indefinitely. That’s just how this world has been created. With that in mind, “sometime” it will be different. Is that now? Who knows. What’s really interesting is how the volume of gold contracts has been exponentially increasing in even shorter time frames. Meaning, it’s taking larger and larger hits of volume to get smaller and yet smaller moves in price. That says a lot.
Bob does need to be more specific.
Also the behavior in gold and silver usually track similarly.
This time they are not quite behaving in parallel.
Usually they can be hit at about the same time on the COMEX. They drop in price and shorts can be forced to cover……open interest drops.
This time for silver, it did not quite behave as usually expected. Sure the price dropped, but shorts did not cover very quickly. I interpret that bullion banks were not able to buy up cheap physical to cover their shorting which drove the price down. Other money stepped in to buy silver long and took away the cheap silver from the bullion banks.
Most longs do not stand for delivery on the COMES, but roll contracts over. There appears “this time” may be different. The bullion banks can repeatedly try to knock the silver price down, but if non-leveraged money steps in and takes delivery, the old techniques will not work.
This time it is going to be extend and pretend, for much longer than mot people think possible!
The system died in 2008. We have had nothing but Zombie economics ever since. Everyone I have ever talked to finds the extent to which the extend and pretend has worked. But they also feel the end is neigh.
Nay, nay. I did not realize you were a horse man, Robert! I thought you were a joystick jockey.
Sorry, I should not joke about spelling errors, since I make more than a fair share. But I like, if possible, to see the funny side of things as my end draws nigh.
Hello Mr Moriarty,
Do you mean sell PM shares? Thanks
PS I have some TMM.TO and a few others that look good chart wise…..
No distribution I can see…
Implying that no meaningful price appreciation?
Al:
Actually implying that the volcano is about to blow. the system is coming unglued.
now that’s scary!
Its feels like a slow motion wreck to me.
Throw in a nuclear war and what do you have ?
We are going to reverse a few thousand years
to — The Stone Age !
HAVE A NICE TRIP !
I plan on bring apart of The Millennium Kingdom Of God.
You should too, before the big hammer falls down and
then it’s way too late.
“Seek Ye First, The Kingdom Of God And Everything Will
Be Added Unto To You.”
The dooms day clock is just a few seconds away from
midnight. Wake up out of your stupor. The hour is late.
Here you go. Very prophetic. Folks, don’t kid yourself.
We are going to have the economic implosion and nuclear
war all wrapped into one event. Highly likely.
Turkey has the B61 nuclear bombers. Are you catching on yet.
They are itching to start a nuclear war. O vowed to destroy the Republic. He will too.
Not Thanksgiving but here’s the latest Turkey news:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/15/turkey-coup-attempt-military-gunfire-ankara
The purge of 2,745 Judges should be interesting
And prosecutors ,along with 140 appeals court members, what a mess!
Gold going higher
monday? I need money.
both kids have birthdays this week, now 4 and 5.
Happy birthday
You will need some TLC along with the cash.
As of early this morning it would appear that it failed.
It was a false flag, designed by Erdogan to fail so that he can take total power. Obama is planning the same tactic for Nov.
Re. Segment 7:
GEYEF
Goldeye Explorations Limited (TSX VENTURE:GGY) (“Goldeye” or the “Company”) is pleased to announce that it has agreed to a proposal with respect to the acquisition of the Company by Treasury Metals Inc. (TSX:TML) (the “Proposal”). Given the complementary nature of Treasury’s development stage portfolio, and Goldeye’s exploration assets located in Northwestern Ontario, Goldeye believes that there is a compelling case for the combination of Treasury and Goldeye and that such a combination would be mutually beneficial to both sets of shareholders.
The Proposal contemplates that Treasury and Goldeye will enter into a business combination pursuant to a structure to be mutually agreed (the “Proposed Transaction”).
Pursuant to the Proposed Transaction, consideration shall consist of the issuance of common shares in the capital of Treasury for 100% of the issued and outstanding common shares of Goldeye (the “Shares”) at an exchange ratio of 0.100 Treasury Shares for each Goldeye common share held (the “Consideration”). On that basis, the Consideration in respect of the Proposed Transaction equates to a deemed price of C$0.065 per Goldeye common share based on the closing price of the Shares on July 8, 2016 and represents a 44.4% premium to the closing price of Goldeye common shares on July 8, 2016 of C$0.045. In total, Treasury will issue approximately 5,005,359 common shares.
The Proposed Transaction will be contingent on the negotiation of a definitive agreement (the “Definitive Agreement”) which will contain usual and customary terms and conditions.
Goldeye’s principal asset is the Weebigee Project, a high-grade gold project located near Sandy Lake in Northwestern Ontario. Goldeye’s most recent exploration program, consisting of a 2,200 metre shallow drill program, reported significant gold results (see press release dated April 9, 2014 available at http://www.goldeye.ca or http://www.sedar.com). The Weebigee Project is subject to an earn-in option and joint-venture agreement between GPM Metals Inc. (“GPM”) and Goldeye.
Segment 3:
Vancouver, BC / TheNewswire / July 7, 2016 – Adamera Minerals Corp. (TSX V: ADZ) – announces that the Shares for Debt settlement of $21,008.39 of debt through issuance of 233,427 common shares of the company at a price of $0.09 per share – as per the news release disseminated on June 23, 2016 – has completed.
Adamera is exploring for high-grade gold deposits within hauling distance of the operating Kettle River Mill in Northeastern Washington State. The Company’s strategy is to fast-track the discovery to production process by exploring close to a mill in need of ore. Adamera is exploring several projects with a goal to become the dominant mining/exploration company in the area.
VANCOUVER, BC–(Marketwired – June 29, 2016) – Skeena Resources Limited (TSX VENTURE: SKE) (“Skeena” or the “Company”) is pleased to report that, subject to approval by the TSX-Venture Exchange, it has closed the first tranche of private placement financing announced on June 9, 2016. The Company expects to close the balance of financing by next week.
Skeena collected gross proceeds of $3,804,000 from the sale of 47,290,000 Non-Flow Through (“NFT”) Units at CDN$0.08 and 200,000 Flow Through (“FT”) Units at CDN$0.104. Each NFT Unit consists of one non-flow through common share and one half of a non-flow through warrant. Each FT Unit consists of one flow through common share and one half of a non-flow through warrant. Each whole warrant will be exercisable into one non-flow through common share for a period of three years at a price of $0.12 in the first year, $0.14 in the second year and $0.16 in the third year.
All of the securities issued under this financing will be subject to a hold period of 4 months from the closing date of the offering. Finders’ fees may be payable to qualified agents in accordance with applicable regulations.
Funds raised from this financing will be used to undertake a diamond drill program on the Snip property, as well as for exploration programs on the Spectrum and GJ properties and for general working capital purposes.
Another company that has a partnership and good number of shares in Skeena Resources is an interesting Prospect Generator model company called Eros Resources (BPUZF) or (ERC.V).
Check out this press release from Eros Resources regarding the loan with Skeena:
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Eros Converts Skeena Loan to Shares
April 19, 2016 – NR: 16-01
Eros Resources Corp. (“Eros”) (TSX.V: ERC) has informed Skeena Resources Limited, subject to TSX Venture Exchange approval, that it will convert its $1.5 million loan into 25,000,000 Skeena common shares at a deemed price of $0.06 per share. In June of 2015, Eros originally earned an interest in the Spectrum property for a $1.5 million demand loan to be applied towards eligible exploration expenditures. The loan was convertible into Skeena shares at Eros’ option. (See Skeena news release dated June 2, 2015.)
About Eros
Eros Resources Corp. is a well-financed Canadian public company focused on the exploration and development of mineral deposits in North America.
On April 24, 2016 at 4:15 pm,
Excelsior says:
Yes I also own Eros Resources under the OTC version (BPUZF), because I held Anthem Resources and when Boss Power acquired Anthem Resources last year, I let all my shares get transferred over into the new entity Eros Resources. Boss finally won a long standing legal dispute and with that cash bought out Anthem, who had a really great asset but no money. It seems like the perfect combination in my opinion, and I did average down in it after the merger, but my shares in this one are still underwater because of my original cost basis from the Anthem shares.
It has been sitting dead in the water most of the year but has started to move again recently. It’s interesting that you picked them in the Uranium space Matthew. Just out of curiosity, what led you to pick them over some of the other companies?
On April 24, 2016 at 4:31 pm,
Excelsior says:
Here is another news release that Eros Resources just put out:
Eros Reports on Winter Drill Program at Murphy Lake, Saskatchewan
April 21, 2016
— > On April 24, 2016 at 4:34 pm,
Excelsior says:
Lastly – Eros couldn’t ask for a better JV partner than Denison.
Murphy Lake is a joint venture between Denison, the operator (68.8% interest) and Eros Resources Corp. (31.2% interest). The property is located approximately 30 kilometres from the McClean Lake mill in the northern area of the Athabasca Basin. The Athabasca Basin is generally regarded as a premiere uranium district, well known for hosting the highest grade uranium deposits in the world.
— > On April 24, 2016 at 4:38 pm,
Excelsior says:
I may just have to average down in Eros one last time now that they are finally doing exploration work again, and I really like that they picked up 32 million shares of Skeena Resources. That is the icing on the cake and I totally missed that last week but was traveling when the news was announced.
Fun times!
— > On April 24, 2016 at 4:51 pm,
Matthew says:
As with UEX, I bought Eros because I thought I could make a quick buck (and I did).
Their cash position and Ron Netolitzky’s involvement made me comfortable with getting stuck with it I turned out to be wrong about the quick buck.
Ron delivered a nice win for me with Brett Resources years ago when it was taken out by Osisko.
On April 24, 2016 at 4:58 pm,
Excelsior says:
That’s encouraging about Ron Netolitzky’s involvement. I didn’t follow Brett Resources, but it sounds like he is good at building value in a company.
Maybe they can build up Eros Resources so that Denison takes them over. Denison wanted to takeover Fission last year, but that fell through, so maybe they’ll go after Eros instead?
On April 24, 2016 at 5:03 pm,
Excelsior says:
I have a nice sized position in Denison for the very reason that they have proved themselves as a prior producer, they sold all their US assets to Energy Fuels, and just recently JV’d all their African assets. Denison’s primary focus is now on the Athabasca basin and I like that they have a stake in one of the only mills and processing centers in the Athabasca. I could see them bringing Eros under their umbrella over time, once these exploration programs define the resources a bit more. Very exciting times in exploration in the Athabasca Basin!
On April 24, 2016 at 5:34 pm,
Matthew says:
The funny thing is, I only learned of ERC’s existence because of the joint venture they have with a company I already own.
It can pay to look at all angles when trying to find new ideas. 🙂
— > On April 24, 2016 at 8:54 pm,
Excelsior says:
Yes, this is true. It is good to look at things from a few different angles. I would say half the people found Boss due to their Gold/Silver/Copper assets, and the other half found them due to the Uranium deposits. They are kind of like Brazil Resources in that sense.
I typically look at JV relationships and have an above average hit rate on takeovers for just this reason, but it doesn’t always play out like one thinks. For example, I thought that Anthem Resources would buy out Boss Power’s interest in the Murphy Lake property because at that time, Boss was in trouble and I thought they’d want it off their shoulders. Instead, Boss got the big cash injection and bought out Anthem. I guess it doesn’t matter as they made more sense together.
As for the Skeena Resources angle, that is just another pleasant wildcard between the two companies that adds value to both companies. I was wondering how Skeena was going to pay Eros back, but they did it with shares, which works for me because I like some of the exploration Skeena is doing.
Then there is the JV with Mega at Bruce River.
Bruce River, Labrador
Status: Exploration
Commodity: Uranium, copper
Ownership: 26.66% interest by Eros Resources
Operator: Mega Uranium
Mega is an interesting Uranium company with JVs with a number of companies and stock in a few companies like NexGen.
Next up Eros Resources Corp. holds the 100% owned Chateau Fort Au-Ag-Cu-Zn property in north-central Quebec. The property adjoins the “167” property of Visible Gold Mines Inc. and is currently optioning this project out to Tarku Resources Ltd., so there is yet another JV of sorts.
Then Eros also has the Eastgate Gold Project — High-Grade Epithermal Gold-Silver System in Nevada. What I like about this is that there are several historic mines exist on the property including: Gold Ledge, Double Eagle, Eastgate, Sunny Jim, and Central.
One of their other very interesting Gold/Silver properties is the Bell Mountain Project is located southeast of Reno, Nevada. This is one where they have more defined resources already but I actually hold out more interest in their Eastgate Gold Project
— High-Grade Epithermal Gold-Silver System in Nevada. Franco-Nevada did a lot of work on the Eastgate, as did Echo Bay Mines, Kermode Resources, and Blueridge Gold in the past. I’m very curious to see how both of these properties unfold.
Again, it is wild that they have so much exposure to Precious Metals and some interesting work going on there, but then the more interesting JV projects with Denison and Mega. Really I could see Eros spinning out either their Precious Metals projects or Uranium JVs into a separate company one day as they have 2 different tracks that they are on. In my opinion they have a bit of an identity crisis (just like Alkane Resources that I’ve been writing about recently), and it is most likely that Mid-tier Gold company will buy out one set of assets, and that Denison would take over their Uranium assets one day.
For now it is an exciting company to be part of…..
—- > On April 24, 2016 at 9:16 pm,
Matthew says:
It was through Bell Mountain that I found Eros. Here’s the company that optioned the property to them:
I don’t think I’ve mentioned it here since last year.
— > On April 25, 2016 at 12:13 am,
Excelsior says:
Ah – I see it now on the Globex Mining Corporate presentation – page 12
http://www.globexmining.com/documents/2016-02-18-Globex-updated_newversion_001.pdf
MID TERM POTENTIAL: Bell Mountain
Eros Resources is studying putting our Au, Ag deposit in Nevada
into production via open pit, and heap leach methods
We hold an Advance Royalty (2016) and a 3% GMR
—- > On April 25, 2016 at 12:18 am,
Matthew says:
And there’s this:
“In a March 2, 2012 press release, Globex reported the results of a Preliminary Economic Assessment (PEA), prepared by Jacobs Minerals Canada Inc. and Micon International Limited. This report, also based upon the first 20 years of operation projected gross revenue of $2.58 billion, an after tax IRR of 20% and the production of 2,470,000 tonnes of high grade talc and 2,381,000 tonnes of magnesia.”
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/globex-receives-mining-lease-timmins-155549299.html
— > On April 25, 2016 at 12:20 am,
Excelsior says:
This has been an eye opener, because I’ve been so focused on the Uranium side of the equation with Eros Resources, that some of the Precious Metals background has escaped me. In fairness, I became a shareholder though a Uranium acquisition, so mentally I weighted that part of their business more heavily, but the precious metals side has much more potential than I realized.
Good stuff!
— > On April 25, 2016 at 12:32 am,
Excelsior says:
Well I’m thinking of just peppering some money between a few of the project generators and mineral banks:
Strategic Metals, Eurasian Minerals, Transition Metals, Midland Exploration, Aurico Metals, Millrock Resources, Arena Minerals, First Mining Finance, Oban Mining, Abitibi Royalties, Altius Minerals and now Globlex Mining.
Maybe I’ll just start storing some gains from other trades in these as longer term bets. I plan on doing the same thing by storing some gains into the streaming companies.
—- > On April 25, 2016 at 12:40 am,
Excelsior says:
I guess I’d throw Eros Resources, Typhoon Exploration, and Idaho North into the project generator category as well.
—- > On April 25, 2016 at 12:45 am,
Matthew says:
I store gains in future winners all the time. I call them profit dumpsters.
— > On April 25, 2016 at 12:56 am,
Excelsior says:
Profit Dumpsters – I love it. 🙂
Here’s a list of Prospect Generator companies that investors may want to look into that form JVs with other companies, an get partial earn-ins or Net Smelter Royalties on a project that makes it into production, and they also invest in other exploration or production companies with some of their assets. A very interesting space in the exploration and development part of mining stocks.
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Prospect Generator Mining Companies Symbol
ABITIBI ROYALTIES INC ATBYF
ALMADEX MINERALS LTD AXDDF
ALTIUS MINERALS CORPORATION ATUSF
ARENA MINERALS AMRZF
AURICO METALS INC ARCTF
AURION RESOURCES LTD AIRRF
AVRUPA MINERALS LTD AVPMF
COLOMBIAN MINES CORPORATION CMBPF
EAGLE PLAINS RESOURCES LTD EGPLF
EROS RESOURCES CORPORATION BPUZF
EURASIAN MINERALS INC EMXX
EVRIM RESOURCES CORP EMRRF
FIRST MINING FINANCE CORP FFMGF
GLOBEX MINING ENTERPRISES INC GLBXF
IDAHO NORTH RESOURCES CORP IDAH
LARA EXPLORATION LTD LRAXF
MIDLAND EXPLORATION INC MIDLF
MIRANDA GOLD CORP MRDDF
OSISKO MINING INCORPORATED OBNNF
RENAISSANCE GOLD INC RNSGF
REVELO RESOURCES CORP INCKF
RIVERSIDE RESOURCES INC RVSDF
STRATEGIC METALS LTD SMDZF
TRANSITION METALS CORP (NEW) TNTMF
TYPHOON EXPLORATION INC TYPFF
The Silent Rise of the Prospect Generator Method
Global Mining Observer – Issue 143, October 2015
http://www.globalminingobserver.com/silent-rise-prospect-generator-model-143/
Segment 6:
I had many pages of thoughts on this subject on a laptop, which unfortunately was stolen.
I expect collusion between the central banks with sequential money creation until inflation is created. Unfortunately the way money is created implies debt is created.
You cannot solve an excess debt problem by increase debt, so time is limited.
The hope, with attempting to get out of a debt problem by creating inflation is that one HAS to have a period of time over which GDP growth rate can exceed the debt growth rate.
The problem now is that growth of GDP is so constrained by excessive regulation and taxation that I do not believe we can have a period for which inflation can bail out the debt problem. By printing enough money we can generate a Zimbabwe-type death spiral of inflation, but not growth.
Right now with the problems in Europe and China, the dollar is strong and money creation will blow asset bubbles rather than creating inflation.
There will come a time eventually, however, when bond rates start to increase, and bond prices start to decrease that money will not be able to be created sufficiently fast.
The economic system will collapse.
I expect after that happens, paper (federal reserve notes) and coins will cease to be used.
When the new system is born only debit or credit card plastic will be used.
Governments will supposedly have total knowledge and control of money.
While this will be promoted as a way of eliminating crime and tax evasion, it will, of course, fail as barter and alternate forms of money are created.
What most people are unaware of is that many of the properties now being worked on in Canada had seen their discovery made in the 1980’s, where they were abandoned by 1992 in the credit downgrade of Canada government bonds. There was a recession in that time, and capital raised for mining projects went down the drain.
I wonder if an almanac of failed mining prospects containing bonafide gold deposits exist, because people would only be lying if they claimed to have made a discovery.
If anyone thinks Skeena has a good chance of success, they better hope that Golden Band Resources comes up with their debtor-in-possession financing, and exits CCAA with their shareholding intact. Because if GBN.H measures a success, then Skeena will benefit.
Skeena has some ~350m. shares out, and is not able to de-risk or advance any prospects no matter WHAT the gold price is.
Why do I think this? Because GBN.H used to own the Snip mining prospect when Netolitzky ran GBN.H, which was then sold to another junior miners for 5 million shares, which has since disappeared from the scene. Now, Skeena, run by Netolitzky, owns the prospect, who has been consolidating mining prospects in the Pacific Northwest under Skeena.
GBN.H literally does not need to go anywhere, as they have all the mining and development work they can handle. Snip was sold in order to pursue the Preview Lake prospect in Saskatchewan.
It would not come as a surprise that Netolitzky would consolidate further the prospects of the La Ronge Gold Belt under GBN.H, or even buy back the Snip mine from Skeena.
Netolitzky is presumed to be the largest shareholder of GBN.H.
I wouldn’t trust Netolitzky….I have been burned by his Golden Band Resources in a huge way. What they have done with that company is shameful.
I’m thinking that the story with GBN.H isn’t totally over.
But the implication with the transfer of assets from GBN.H to Skeena was that Netolitzky did not return the asset to GBN.H, but appropriated the prospect instead.
It was a slight of hand that they would rather have you believe was simply handed over by Barrick to Skeena.
Rollback, refi, wash and repeat…..
Cycles as Mr Moriarty said above “It is never different”
Except when it is, say I.
When, you’re in a hole, stop digging. But miners only stop when money runs out.
There’s always a chance to step out and dig another hole some place else.
I agree with Greg Weldon on the second part of:
http://www.financialsensenewshour.com/broadcast/fsn2016-0716-1.mp3
Gold bugs will be happy, sorry for the ad at the end.
Sorry for the ad?
Thanks for your insights Fran Six
What worries me the most is that Governments make the rules and can always change the rules. Thy usually find a way to plunder profits one may make, So will they confiscate IRAs, or will they put a surtax on profits from mining shares? I fear they will find a way to profit from my good luck or judgment.
I don’t agree CFS in all cases.
Of course they will tax cfs, they will do anything they can think of to preserve themselves.
Peoples lives are meaningless when it comes to a government trying to survive, heck look at Erdogan last night, he told everyone to go into the streets.
Good move on his part, those attempting the coup had some respect for people and wouldnt harm them.
The battle at Verdun alone saw 750 k casualties, Im sure both sides viewded it as “worth it”.
Governments could care less when their survival is at stake.
They will tax,confiscate,surtax cfs, wahtever they call it, they will get the cash.
Midway through this Puplava gets it right:
http://www.financialsensenewshour.com/broadcast/fsn2016-0716-2.mp3
The reason why central banks HAVE to collude is that if any one bank prints excessively, then the currency of that bank will decline in value.
By ALL central banks printing money, they believe inflation can always be created without any one currency getting out of line. (Their problem is gold or silver or something else taking over the role of money)
CFS:
When you comment or recommend, I’m all ears. Thanks for the Weldon interview.
My major concern about PM’s is how Governments can and do view unconventional investments and how they can curb significant gains in these socially unacceptable investments by excessive, almost confiscatory taxation such as we experience in some form of PM’s here in the States. This view is predicated on my finely tuned analysis using the “When guns are outlawed, gunholders will be outlaws” approach.
Any thoughts?
The Class Action
In 2012, a proposed class action was commenced against Nevsun Resources Ltd. (“Nevsun”) and certain others. The plaintiffs allege that the defendants knew, or ought to have known, that the stated gold reserves at the Bisha mine were materially overstated.
I looked for further updates concerning Nevsun and their use of slave labour, the most recent I found was May 2016, court yet to decide.
I decided to contact the Canadian Centre for International Justice, as they are involved maybe they have some insight.
I thought the idea of investing in Eritria due to undervalued shareprice was interesting, due to being unpopular, maybe has something to do with it being a dictatorship, well duh, maybe there is a company in N Korea to look at?
Jayant, why wouldnt you own a company thats undervalued?
Good grief, un sanctions are not kind of a clue?
Nothing says misstreatment of people needs to be part of an investment decision.
I understand slavery is all over the world, maybe there is nothing wrong with it, I just dont want anything to do with it.
I do understand Shad, you have pages and pages proving beyond a shadow of doubt Nevsuns innocence.
Odd people would go to so much trouble without pesonal motivation.
I guess it could just be an unsubstantiated money grab, funny so many people believe enough to support efforts to such a degree.
As we can see from the class action suit Nevsun is completely tustworthy, why doubt them?
Should I get a response from the Canadian Centre for International Justice, I’ll post it.
Interesting Nevsun is discussed here.
On July 12, 2016 at 4:09 pm,
Excelsior says:
That is old and inaccurate news B. Nevsun publicly addressed that they never enforced slave labor in any aspect of their operations, and that the media an few soliders made a big media spectacle to publicly attack the mine and Eritrea. A 3rd party contractor responsible for the government’s contribution had hired soldiers at one point in a construction project, and Nevsun didn’t endorse or have any say in this. The a news person with an ax to grind hyped the story of 2 of the soldiers that had more complaints about the military in Eritrea than the mine. It was a very opinionated piece at the time, and the management has addressed this multiple times now over the last few years.
Consider the fact that their Bisha mine has brought more infrastructure, skilled jobs, education & training, medical supplies, and a better quality of life to the people of communities near their mine, and through the government earn in to people all over Eritrea. Someone had to take the first step and get larger resource projects going in a country that has had a terrible past and has frightful government infractions. Consider the situation that existed before the mine was there, and ask yourself if they’ve done more good or bad for that community. It’s a 2 way street of course….
B. – I’m guessing you think you are doing some sort of social good by posting inaccurate articles from 2-4 years ago, but I posted these posts earlier this week because they address these old smear articles that you keep posting.
Please, don’t let 3rd party independent companies research and government audits that clearly paint of the picture of how good Nevsun’s social and human rights track records FACTUALLY are get in the way of your old and misguided OPINION.
Nevsun
Governance and CSR Management
Oversight of Corporate Social Responsibility Practices
Enterprise Risk Management- Anti-Bribery and Anti-Corruption
Commitments to External Initiatives
Human Rights – Stakeholder Engagement
We continually refine our activities to meet the highest ethical standards, including the proper treatment of all stakeholders associated with our operations and will persist in updating our policies and procedures to reflect this commitment.
Nevsun integrates the respect for human rights into its Code of Ethics, its operational policies and procedures, and in its operations. Our approach to human rights is evolving and ongoing and we are committed to international principles and guidance, as well as integrating the recommendations from our recently completed Human Rights Impact Assessment (HRIA).
hardhatAll of our recruitment procedures conform with Eritrean Law. As such the BMSC Human Resources and Employment Plan (the “HRE Plan”) has policies and procedures in place to protect against underage workers at its operations and only employs persons that are 18 years of age and older. Additionally, a formal identification card, a prerequisite for employment at the Bisha Mine, can only be granted once an Eritrean citizen reaches the age of 18.
Specific to our Bisha operation, and in accordance with Eritrean Law, the HRE Plan also mandates that all applicants hired must demonstrate that they have been cleared from the Eritrean National Service Program. Both our contractors and subcontractors are in compliance with this documentation process, which is audited on a regular basis.
A small number of Government of Eritrea and student demobilized workers are given the opportunity each year to take on a secondment at the Bisha Mine. This provides an opportunity for them to acquire real world operator experience in the mining sector and to work for a private organization at a much higher rate of pay over a period of six months before returning back to their regular employer. Those electing to select this option must freely sign-off on their willingness to join our workforce at their choosing for a specified period of time.
***During 2014, we did not receive any formal human rights grievances or identify any issues of non-compliance in respect to the use of national conscripts.
A lawsuit was filed against Nevsun in November 2014 in the B.C. Supreme Court by three individuals who claim to have once worked with a local subcontractor at the Bisha Mine. The lawsuit makes human rights allegations against Nevsun and its local subcontractor. Nevsun denies the allegations and will vigorously defend itself against the claim.
The security standard at Nevsun’s operation is designed to assess risks and protect the Company’s people and assets in a manner which minimizes conflict and respects the human rights of its stakeholders. We ensure our security is managed in a way that respects and protects human rights, avoids creating and or escalating conflict, and addresses security threats in as peaceful a way as possible. Our security services are provided by a local Eritrean contractor and 100% of its employees are required to receive regular training in security protocols and procedures, which includes aspects of human rights including harassment, discrimination, and cultural awareness. We have adopted the Voluntary Principles on Security and Human Rights and implemented numerous policies to ensure all employees, contractors, and subcontractors are treated with dignity and respect at all times. In conjunction with the HRIA, Nevsun has embarked on a program to ensure its security contractor and relevant BMSC managers will meet on an annual basis to discuss the Company’s obligations with respect to the Voluntary Principles on Security and Human Rights.
On July 12, 2016 at 4:23 pm,
Excelsior says:
If you both want to get the whole story, and do a little due diligence, then you’d discover that Nevsun (because of the media spectacles and law suit) is way more focused on human rights than many of their peers in Africa, and really in mining and business worldwide. It is a constant effort and priority if you spend anytime listening to the management at conferences, or if you watch how things have improved for many living in Eritrea as a result, or if you watch the videos of the thousands of happy workers that are grateful the mine is there.
It’s easy to cast stones when you don’t let the facts get in the way….
______________________________________________________________________
The Bisha Mine Human Rights Impact Assessment
In mid-2013/early 2014, Nevsun commissioned its first independent HRIA at its Bisha Mine to better understand strengths and identify areas where human rights best practices can be embedded in Eritrea and wherever it operates. To implement the HRIA, an independent international human rights lawyer undertook two field missions to Eritrea (October 2013 and January 2014) to gather information, review documentation, and visit the Bisha Mine. The assessment team conducted interviews and focus groups with a wide range of stakeholders, including Nevsun and ENAMCO’s senior management; Eritrean government officials; BMSC employees and managers; local community leaders; and employees and managers of Eritrean contractors, subcontractors, and suppliers.
A broad and comprehensive mandate was given for the HRIA to examine the full spectrum of human and labour rights through a review of the policies and management systems in place at the Bisha Mine and engagement with stakeholders in Eritrea. Specifically, Nevsun wished to better understand where there may be risks, associated with their operations, of human rights impacts on workers and local communities.
The HRIA prioritized the following:
Labour rights, including freedom from forced labour, freedom of association, working conditions, and training opportunities
Human rights related to the environment, including the human right to water and sanitation
Community development and stakeholder engagement with local communities
Security and human rights
Human rights due diligence with respect to business partners and supply chain
Grievance mechanisms at the operational level
The recommendations to support ongoing due diligence for human rights at the
Bisha Mine resulting from the assessment include:
Adopting and embedding a more explicit human rights policy
Conducting further human rights training at Bisha
Integrating human rights considerations into the implementation of the 2012 IFC Performance Standards at the Bisha Mine
Engaging on human rights with suppliers, contractors, and subcontractors
Developing a framework and protocols to ensure the effective implementation and coordination of all grievance mechanisms
Continuing discussions surrounding the implementation of the Community Assistance Programme (CAP)
Upon completion of the HRIA, Nevsun published and made publicly available a summary of the report, and also committed to providing a public response to the HRIA, developing and sharing an action plan resulting from the HRIA process, and continuing to report on human rights in its annual CSR Report. In 2014, Nevsun representatives met in person with interested stakeholder groups to review the full report, its recommendations, and planned Company follow-up.
Nevsun has received constructive feedback regarding the commitment to the principles of accountability and transparency, and that our actions to date have represented good practice in the emerging field of impact assessment related to human rights.
Human rights are integral to Nevsun’s corporate values and shape the expectations of many of its stakeholders. Most importantly, human rights are fundamental to the ongoing dignity, safety, and well-being of the individuals and groups that are affected by the Company’s operations. For our commitment regarding the continued implementation of human rights best practices, please read the Bisha Mine Human Rights Work Plan 2016
On July 12, 2016 at 4:31 pm,
Excelsior says:
B – I doubt you’ll read this study and get actual facts, but I’ll post it anyway.
Instead you will probably cling to your opinions and prejudices, and keep wishing you could throw innocent Canadian miners in jail for trying to create a win-win in a very difficult county to operate in.
However, in outside chance that you want to know how the people are actually treated and have benefited as a result of Nevsun’s mine, then here is audited, non-opinionated, third-party reviewed study…. (not trashy tabloid piece like what you posted.)
_______________________________________________________________________
HUMAN RIGHTS IMPACT ASSESSMENT OF THE BISHA MINE IN ERITREA
COMMISSIONED BY
NEVSUN RESOURCES LTD
ERITREAN NATIONAL MINING CORPORATION (ENAMCO)
PREPARED BY: LKL INTERNATIONAL CONSULTING INC.
05 AUGUST 2015
2015 AUDIT
http://nevsuncsr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Bisha-HRIA-Audit-2015.pdf
On July 12, 2016 at 4:42 pm,
Excelsior says:
I’m not trying to defend Eritrea…. it’s a terrible country with a horrific track record.
However, threatening to jail the executives of Nevsun when they’ve repeatedly done their damnedest to improve the lives of the people they touch directly, and really be a light in the area for how to conduct business ethically, is a bit much.
I initially felt the same way about Nevsun until I really did some research, because I didn’t want to invest in a company accused of “slave labor” either, when there are so many other choices. However, I’d see them speak at Eric Coffin’s show, and then watch a video of their management discussing everything they are doing to influence human rights and affect the government in a positive way. Then I started reconsidering the affect they were having over there. Now there are 2 more mines opening from other companies now that the government is realizing it can bring in good money off their resources legally and ethically, without resorting to crime. I only hope the other companies that set up shop do as good of a job keeping the community in mind as Nevsun has done. They’ve had a hard road, and tons of disinformation attacks trying to smear them, but if you spend some time on it, you just may start to realize they are one of the good guys over there, and while far from perfect, it’s better than things were when the mine wasn’t there. The government has used the proceeds for bad things (no doubt), but there is a ton of money generated at the Bisha mine going into infrastructure (power/roads/clean water/medical supplies) all of the country. That’s more than most people I know have ever done for the people of Eritrea. In fact, miners are usually picked on, and criticized, but they do more cumulative good for communities than 90% of businesses ever will.
On July 13, 2016 at 7:24 am,
Marty says:
Good follow up Ex, well done.
On July 13, 2016 at 9:36 am,
Excelsior says:
Glad to share Marty. Nevsun is an extremely well run company, has done far more good than bad in Eritrea, and as for the quality of the assets raised in that article B posted, since then they have prove that Bisha is one of the highest grade and most well endowed Copper/Zinc mines on the planet.
I am very excited to see what they do with Reservoir’s assets in Serbia and all the other exploration projects they got along with that project. That should keep them busy in Europe for some time to come, and it was an excellent merger IMO.
Cheers!
False accusations happen all the time, in all places and on all scales.
Where I live an American who owns lots of land was accused of enslaving the indians on his hacienda. I was there a year or two before the accusations, and I would wager his treatment of them was better than that of perhaps any native landowner.
I have no idea of the case of Nevsun. But as a general rule, such accusations must be evaluated with a sharp critical eye.
+1 I completely agree GH. With Nevsun and in general, it is often the parties that are making the accusations that have the ax to grind or agenda, and think nothing of attacking the reputation of a company or an individual, because the more you tell a lie publicly, the more people start to believe it (regardless of it’s merit).
I’m all for healthy criticism of public or private companies, non-profits, lobyist groups, unions, governments, and public servants, but once something has been clearly corrected in the facts department, then any future criticism should involve the complete picture (including follow up peer reviewed studies, further credible research, independent studies, audits, and continued updates).
All the best GH.
B:
Thanks for highlighting a very important issue to do with NSU. Despite that I completely agree with you that Eritrea is a horrible dictatorship, in my view the issue is much more complex than how you portray it.
Consider this… Would you rather have democracy or Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship in Iraq? What do you think about how much good democracy has done in Pakistan, Nepal, and Myanmar (which is already facing major issues a mere few years after a slight change to democracy)? Thailand’s natural state is under military dictatorship. In fact, just about every country outside the western world where democracy has been imposed has degenerated and then reverted back to spineless dictatorship.
As a corollary, most countries that have done well in the non-western world in the last century did well when they were not democratic: Singapore, HK, Chile, South Korea, Taiwan, and, yes, China.
And is “democracy” really about freedom and liberty, even in the West?
You say, “I understand slavery is all over the world, maybe there is nothing wrong with it, I just don’t want anything to do with it.” Most democratic governments today apply about 50% taxes on your work and consumption. That makes you 50% slave of your government and the voting masses. Moreover, if you live in the US, Canada or the UK, your tax money is used to finance drones, bullets, and bombs that kill in the forever-wars of the US. Have you really avoided being a part of all this, as you claim?
The final paragraph is great, Jayant!
Remember that you may pay, but you are free.
I say this couple of years in this forum…….
The following quote, attributed to Scottish history professor Alexander Tyler (or Tytler) in 1787, seems to portray an accurate reflection of what has occurred during our 200+ years of existence as a democracy.
“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”
“The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage
“These words were written two years before George Washington became our first President. There is so much truth in these words it makes me shudder, especially since we are clearly in stage 7. An honest appraisal of our country’s downward spiral is necessary to begin the process of redemption. We have continually voted ourselves increased benefits, dependent upon the printing presses of the Federal Reserve to sustain our country’s ponzi scheme. Republican or Democrat, while the recipients of largesse may be different, it matters not for whom you vote, since it only marginally affects the speed of the collapse, not stop it or reverse it.
Remember that you may pay, but you are free.
But you must do as your government masters say and to the letter. And give them every penny they demand. If you refuse men with guns will come to put you in a cage with violent inmates. And if you resist you will be killed.
But your rulers don’t want you thinking about this. They would rather you run outside and play Pokeyman.
But your rulers don’t want you thinking about this. They would rather you run outside and play Pokeyman.
Or listen to Ryan Seachrist talk about Taylor Slow’s boyfriend.
That should be Seacrest and Swift (as in the swift system or getting swift boated). Dang iPad!
Re: “And is “democracy” really about freedom and liberty, even in the West?”
-Obviously not.
Re: “Most democratic governments today apply about 50% taxes on your work and consumption. That makes you 50% slave of your government and the voting masses.”
-No, that makes you 100% slave. You either own yourself or you don’t.
Re: “…your tax money is used to finance drones, bullets, and bombs that kill in the forever-wars of the US.”
-The victim of a mugger is not responsible for the mugger’s actions.
Very true, Matthew.
I would like to hear this girl, KrisAnne Hall on KER.
Big Al…?
I posted the link to the executive order in this forum yesterday.
The time to fight the increase in fascism was when Congress repealed the Posse Comitatus Act.
I read the executive order.
It appeared to me more to bless the use of drones inside the US for surveillance.
Guess what, we already have assassination without trial!
Rembrandt when a robot carrying C4 was used to blow up a criminal (without any trial) just a few days ago?
Cops, every day or almost every day will shoot a criminal if the cop feels threatened, without a trial.
The hyperbole and scaremongering of KrisAnne Hall is excessive.
My iPad again Incorrects Remember to Rembrant, sorry.
The d*mn thing is going slow again!
That’s funny. Liberty is excessive? Lol
KrisAnne Hall needs to remember the Constitution still overrides Executive orders.
Just because a President may state something, does not mean he(or she) is correct, or has the power to change the Constitution.
EOs have been overriding the constitution! Get it?
Good thoughts Matthew.
+1 Jayant. Great response.
Also – thanks again for your article back in June where you discussed the arbitrage with Calico Resources and Paramount Gold. I did quite well on that trade and appreciate the heads ups you gave readers. Much appreciated!
Excelsior:
Thanks for your kind words.
Keep up the great research. I love the arbitrage trades during mergers, and did really well so far on the Gryphon Minerals (GPHYF) merging with Teranga Gold (TGCDF) at a (.169 conversion rate).
I added more after the merger had been announced when the ratio dropped to .13 and it should have been valued at .158. It seems to have narrowed the gap for now, but it is another merger to keep an eye on.
Have a great week in the markets.
Jayant, I agree with Iran, we are the great satan.
No I cannot help but support what we do thru taxes.
My only option is to reduce them as much as I can.
When I say “I dont want anything to do with it” it really is as simple as not buying product that uses slave labour, not going to strip clubs that use slave labour and not investing in companies I find to use slave labour.
Nor will I invest in companies using prison labour either, thats slavery to me as well, some will argue it is not as they may get 14 cents? an hour.
And its good for prisoners. Heck, we actually can solve 100% of our unemployment issue.
Very simple, I dont ask myself what is better, democracy or monarchy.
In either instance I wont invest in companies using slave labour.
Very simple.
It is not a philosophical debate for me.
Other people weigh profit vs morality, thats up to them.
There are multitudes of options for my investment dollars, I wont be assosiated with slavery no matter what the potential profit if I in any way can avoid it.
Al still permits opinion here.
I do find it interesting Nevsun is promoted here tho.
When/if I get info from Canadian Centre for International Justice I will post it.
Jayant, great poins! Glass houses indeed. Western Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and all the NATO countries are all part of this neo-colonial empire weather we know this or not. I’m one of the 35 million Canadian who directly benefits from this “Empire/Arrangement” and am not currently happy with its direction. I believe the alliance will eventually implode on its own weight of debt, corruption and age. I give it less than 25 years. Knowingly or unknowingly we pay taxes to pay for this imperfect empire. Despite my reservations for its survival, I have to say, I really like living in a country with clean water, freeish elections/speech and access to quality education, medical care and infrastructure. Like most people living within the boarders of this Empire, I am a lottery winner.
Every couple of years….
The Most Important But Least Watched Gold Chart
http://kingworldnews.com/here-is-the-least-watched-but-most-important-gold-chart-of-2016/
I’ve been watching the same chart for many months but mine is expressed as USB priced in gold rather than gold priced in USB (since gold is money and the benchmark or numeraire).
pretty clear H&S pattern playing out. Thanks.
I don’t think we’ll have to wait long for that H&S pattern to activate. There’s already an active H&S top in play on the USB daily chart to help us out. If it drops just 2% (to the blue line) while gold goes up $27, we’ll have a break of the neckline on the weekly H&S pattern of USB:GOLD.
P.S. – I posted a prior discussion up above in the blog that we had back in April about Eros Resources; due to their partnership (Loan into shares) with Skeena Resources.
Skeena was featured heavily today on the show, so I thought investors may like to know about another related stock with a number of JVs in Gold/Silver/Uranium.
I even included the grande finale on “profit dumpsters” 😉
Cheers!
I forgot that Typhoon was mentioned in that exchange. It has moved up as much as 400%+ since January and has been relatively well-bid. Hecla owns about 27% and it still trades at .3x book…
Yes, I’ve been enjoying that Typhoon is back on the map as Hecla continues to buy up other companies like Mines Management and Dolly Varden. Niocorp already was bought up by Osisko Mining (was Oban mining at the time), so that puts Typhoon Exploration in the crosshairs for a takeover next. If not a takeover then at least a purchase of one of their properties like Fayolle. Either way I am very constructive on Typhoon and really have been for years.
Thanks for that chart, it made me smile.
It would unlock more value if Hecla just bought out Typhoon on that property and they got a cash injection along with a partial earn-in through a Net Smelter Royalty of 2-3%. Then they could fund the exploration their other properties and unlock more value, in the same way Rye Patch has been able to do with the NSR from Coeur.
It will be interesting to see how things progress in a rising metals environment over the next year or two.
Sorry to pick nits but NioCorp still exists. Oban (now Osisko Mining) took out NioGold.
😉
I have a feeling that Hecla will let Typhoon live for a little longer than some expect.
Ha! You’re right, and thanks for the correction. I have NioCorp on the brain because I’ve been posting about it all week due to the JV they have with IBC Advanced Alloys.
Yes…. I meant NioGold was acquired by Oban Mining (now Osisko Mining), and some of their JV projects were with Hecla. That was the point I was going after, so I thought Hecla would take out Niogold, but was not surprised when Osisko gobbled them up.
As for Typhoon, yes, there is regular progress, but my hope is that eventually Hecla will buy out that Fayolle project, which would give them cash injection and NSR to advance their other projects ala what Rye Patch has done. I’d prefer that they not get bought out…….until much higher prices…..
Thanks for the link to the chart Matthew: appreciated.
Hope all’s well.
Best as always,
LPG
Thanks LPG, best to you, too.
LPG, were you on the Promenade des Anglais on Bastille night?
Year to date Composite Chart of the Precious Metals ETFs and Funds:
GDX, SGDM, GDXJ, SGDJ, USERX, GLDX, TGLDX, SIL, SILJ, RING
Silver JUNIORS have outperformed the Major Silver and Gold stocks. Which is WHY we mentioned that being Selective would allow one to beat the “just buy the Kitco list” dart throwing method. Some on here argued you could get the same results by just buying the gold miners on the Kitco list, but clearly the MAJORITY of investors were not in the small micro-cap Jr Silver producers, Silver-zinc development companies, or Silver-zinc explorers. As a result they did not have the same leverage to the rise in metals prices.
There were so many analysts, economists, and pundits that said to ignore the Silver and Base Metal stocks at the end of last year and beginning of this year and had left them for dead, and some that had even mocked silver mining investors.
Well, if they really had a clue then they’d have known that a rebound like this was long overdue in the JR Silver producers, development stage silver-zinc companies, and the silver-zinc explorers. Not to mention, when the metals start to move in either direction, silver typically moves much more than Gold on a percentage basis, so is leverages up the silver miners 2-4 to 1 compared to Gold price movements.
That’s why we were discussing Jr Silver miners so hot and heavy in Dec/Jan/Feb/Mar here on the KER, and anyone with any vision and understanding of the PM mining space knew that this is how the trend would play out.
Others mocked the small Silver companies and those that invested in them, but they only lost a great opportunity by not being “selective” in buying the smaller less followed companies. In opting to invest in the big “safe” names in Gold or Silver, or worse continuing to hype the zombie exploration plays that were sponsors on their newsletters, then they missed where the big gains would be made on this initial thrust up in the resumption of the Precious Metals secular bull market.
The good news is that metals and some of the mining shares have a long way to go from here for years and years. The very easiest initial 100-500%+ gains have been made, but don’t feel like you missed the boat if you didn’t participate in 2016, as we still have so much upside that we’ll all look back in 1-3 years and realize just how cheap things were at this point in time.
Good luck to everyone in their investing.
P.S. – Conversely, if the metals and miners turn down, these same companies may outperform to the downside, so risk in one’s portfolio must be managed appropriately.
Ditto
Well said
Cheers Frank from Moscow….The Claw….The BOOT….The Long….OOTB….Jerry.
Have a great weekend sir!
you need a program to know the players, ex
Thanks Bobby. Ever upward!
I have some awfully bad news for Capt. Jerry.
Break it to me gentle
Good stuff Excelsior, thanks as always.
There is one other un-leveraged fund that far outstripped SILJ: GDJJ. I put it in place of TGLDX:
http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/perf.php?GDX,SGDM,GDXJ,SGDJ,USERX,GLDX,GDJJ,SIL,SILJ,RING
Of course, JNUG has gone up insanely since January, but that’s another ball game.
That is awesome GH. I haven’t been watching GDJJ. Very nice!
Here I switched the chart to Year to Date:
…. and yes I didn’t feel it was fair to put in a tripled leveraged ETF with the others. 🙂
Here’s the Bar Chart version of the Year To Date Returns for illustration purposes.
** However, I didn’t realize at first that GDJJ was a 2x ETF, so it isn’t a totally fair comparison unless you divide its percentage returns in half.
By that measure (429.78 / 2 = 214.89). So a 214.89 % increase for GDJJ if it was a 1 x ETF versus SILJ at 244.37%, means Jr Silver miners still outperformed the group.
So the real question is where is the 2 x (SILJ) ETF? (244.37 x 2 = 488.74% return) 😮
Aaaahhhh, I missed that too. That explains it.
You too
If anyone’s interested in drones..Deveron is back to trading tuesday am.on the CSE after months and months of being halted.Greg and I own a signicant % of the ” float” .. also indirectly thru Greencastle.. so heres to hoping!!!!
Thanks for the heads up and may it be a prosperous investment.
Some folks are interested in oil here.
Turkey has announced closing of the Bosphorus to oil tankers.
I do not know what effect this has.
Of course released on a Friday evening, when no one pays attention:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-cuts-economic-growth-forecasts-1468601249
The course of stocks during the coming months will depend on the money situation, If huge amounts of money are created through credit expansion it will be used to support the markets. With an election coming up we are unlikely to see helicopter money for the masses. The elites want to retain power and the only way this will happen is if the public thinks the economy is doing well via record high levels in the stock market. This of course plays into Hillary getting The Presidency and the status quo is maintained for the power brokers. We all know about the true state of the economy and what is happening in Europe and China. This is the only play The Fed has for now, so look for the markets to remain pumped for another four months.
Mr., Gero is pretty amazing. Lots of clarity!
This is an old Rick Rule video reminding us all of how a mining company should maximize profits for investors.
It ought to be remembered when choosing investments.
I seriously wish some of the companies I have bought could be compelled to watch this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JDb_qSAdLVo
Excellent video!
Made me think of several plays.
As far as the “do nothing” optionality play in terms of Ag look at Bear Creek.
CFS,
thanks for the refresher!
Hope next week the mining shares do better than this guy….
http://cdn.poploom.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/83936570.gif
Dang iPad…This guy!
http://spd.poploom.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/83936567.gif
funny.
Silver Coins, Not Bars – Armstrong This Dice video will prove there is no bull market in precious metals yet. Tries to sell a ten ounce silver bar for $10 USD
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/markets-by-sector/precious-metals/gold/silver-coins-not-bars/
Ive always gotten a laugh outa those vids.
This weekend silver doc metals and market wrap was saying there is alot of silver available at retailers, lots on slae I guess.Bullion coins 49 cents over spot, lots of “junk” around.
Not sure if availability has as much effect on prices as perseption does.
I want to shake the guy’s hand that wrote this..
Have you ever seen a Muslim hospital?
Have you heard a Muslim orchestra?
Have you seen a Muslim band march in a parade?
Have you witnessed a Muslim charity?
Have you shaken hands with a Muslim Girl Scout?
Have you seen a Muslim Candy Striper?
The answer is no, you have not. Just ask yourself WHY ???
Barack Obama, during his Cairo speech, said: “I know, too, that Islam has always been a part of America’s history.”
AN AMERICAN CITIZEN’S RESPONSE
Dear Mr. Obama:
Were those Muslims that were in America when the Pilgrims first landed? Funny, I thought they were Native American Indians.
Were those Muslims that celebrated the first Thanksgiving day? Sorry again, those were Pilgrims and Native American Indians.
Can you show me one Muslim signature on the: United States Constitution?
Declaration of Independence ?
Bill of Rights?
Didn’t think so.
Did Muslims fight for this country’s freedom from England ? No.
Did Muslims fight during the Civil War to free the slaves in America ? No, they did not.
In fact, Muslims to this day are still the largest traffickers in human slavery. Your own half-brother, a devout Muslim, still advocates slavery himself, even though Muslims of Arabic descent refer to black Muslims as “pug nosed slaves.” Says a lot of what the Muslim world really thinks of your family’s “rich Islamic heritage,” doesn’t it Mr. Obama?
Where were Muslims during the Civil Rights era of this country?
Not present.
There are no pictures or media accounts of Muslims walking side by side with Martin Luther King, Jr. or helping to advance the cause of Civil Rights.
Where were Muslims during this country’s Woman’s Suffrage era?
Again, not present. In fact, devout Muslims demand that women are subservient to men in the Islamic culture. So much so, that often they are beaten for not wearing the ‘hajib’ or for talking to a man who is not a direct family member or their husband. Yep, the Muslims are all for women’s rights, aren’t they?
Where were Muslims during World War II?
They were aligned with Adolf Hitler. The Muslim grand mufti himself met with Adolf Hitler, reviewed the troops and accepted support from the Nazi’s in killing Jews.
Finally, Mr. Obama, where were Muslims on Sept. 11th, 2001?
If they weren’t flying planes into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon or a field in Pennsylvania killing nearly 3,000 people on our own soil, they were rejoicing in the Middle East. No one can dispute the pictures shown from all parts of the Muslim world celebrating on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and other cable news network’s that day. Strangely, the very “moderate” Muslims who’s asses you bent over backwards to kiss in Cairo, Egypt on June 4th were stone cold silent post 9-11. To many Americans, their silence has meant approval for the acts of that day.
And THAT, Mr. Obama, is the “rich heritage” Muslims have here in America ….
Oh, I’m sorry, I forgot to mention the Barbary Pirates. They were Muslims.
And now we can add November 5, 2009 – the slaughter of American soldiers at Fort Hood by a Muslim major who is a doctor and a psychiatrist who was supposed to be counseling soldiers returning from battle in Iraq and Afghanistan .
Also, don’t forget the Boston Marathon bombing on April 15.2013 was done by 2 Muslim Brothers. That, Mr. Obama is the “Muslim heritage” in America
Gator, I didnt read the entire post but I got the gist pretty quick.
I gotta ask you, have you ever seen the red crecnt?
Founded 1863 I believe, red cross and red crecent have about 163 million people involved.
Moslems are no more “whacko” than any other god of abraham worshippers, extremists,whacko,psychopaths etc really have no religious afiliation other than to use it as a tool to further their agneda.
As long as the people continue to think that way the “elites” will keep the people divided, making it alot easier to create wars.
Who knows tho? Maybe self extermination is exactly the purpose we are here.
Gator great post
Eric Sprott is on palisaderadio.com today.
Like me, he thinks the miners are just reflecting the impact that higher metals prices will have and that the miners are still cheap.
He is also only interested in gold and silver plays but I have a feeling that he will soon change that a little as I have.
Copper made a short term top on friday?
Globex opens with gold and silver creeping up.
All this euphoria and frenzy over paper gold and mining shares the
outlook is bleak. The long term couldn’t be any worse.
I ran all the numbers and even the short term odds will be highly volatile
and very uncertain.
There will be no bull market in gold, until we have completed all
the worlds unfinished business with regards to financial deflationary
catastrophic hyper hole bust and world war that is a 100 % certain.
The only gold bull market again, will be physical metals in the palm of
your hand ownership. Anyone who is advocating they are in for the long
term in mining shares and all forms of paper products will be waking up
to suffer total financial unrecoverable financial losses.
The optimism is unwarranted and has no merit whatsoever. In fact, what
people are looking at with all this paper gold how you arrive at these dreams
for the long term is anything but inconceivable future optimistic analysis.
Must be completely blinded by past performance of this sector and it will
hold true for the future thereby insisting you will be living your dream of
gold riches in paper one day. Never going to happen. You can take it to
the bank.
HH….I think you have made your point over the last few months. Could you please take a few days off , so the rest of us on here can have a break from your opinions…..Thank You.
Tony, if you decide never to return again I would be
very pleased never having to read your juvenile
comments.
All your Ha – Ha – bla bla – never really contributing
much of anything meaningful.
All your Ha-Ha-bla bla- never really contributing
much of anything meaningful.
A BIT LIKE YOU, THEN.
You answered your own question and
requests Tony.
Take some time off. Beef up your silver
hauler. Go find some deals and keep
stackin. Might not hurt, could help.
You two boys be nice to each other…..
Your little boy Tony, is always on a failed mission.
Actually Tony, HH opinion about that is valid. It could all happen as he says.
If Deutche bank folds from derivitives going bad, every bank on the planet could close up. Bob M understands this well.
Markets could be completely washed away, 100% loss for everyone.
Not saying it will happen, but its possible.
Nuclear war is possible too, the americans are positioning nukes on Russian boarders, Putin has pleaded with western media to tell the people the truth about whats going on.
When we get to the point Putin has no choice but to act, we could have war.
The americans did the same thing to the Japanese in the 40s.
Putin has made repated offers of negotiation to the british and nato which have been refused.
Same thing the allies did to germany.
There are people that want war, we could get it.
PCR describes it better than I do,
Paul Craig Roberts — Vladimir Putin Is The Only Leader The West Has (7/11/2016)
Exceptionally rational commentary and highly realistic
possibilites. The Sprott folks unfortunately along with
all the other promoters all their analysis stops at the
lower levels. If people are not leaders and follow
these people end up losing big. They always make
money on the buys and the sells.
If you look ahead, we have a lot of unsettled business
in this world before people get excited especially with
paper fools gold mining shares and paper gold products.
Anyone who assumes past performance especially in this
environment has really lost all judgment and been blinded
by greed.
Count me Team Irish Tony. I doubt very much that anyone here needs Trader Chicken Little to remind them that miners are riskier than gold or silver.
The potential for big gains comes at a price; those who don’t know that should not be investing in anything.
Matthew with his paper fools gold.
Future analysis. You are going to
be a bag holder.
You’ve been there before. Bet use to it .
Absolutely Mathew, and sometimes we get a payoff that makes it worth it. lol
No pay off this time around in paper fools gold.
Its all toxic from here.
Re: “The optimism is unwarranted and has no merit whatsoever. In fact, what
people are looking at with all this paper gold how you arrive at these dreams
for the long term is anything but inconceivable future optimistic analysis.
Must be completely blinded by past performance of this sector and it will
hold true for the future thereby insisting you will be living your dream of
gold riches in paper one day. Never going to happen. You can take it to
the bank.”
——–
– Lol, what ridiculous bullshit. I’m up five-fold since the January low.
“Never going to happen. You can take it to the bank.” – Cognitive dissonance in action.
Matthew
That’s past performance. I’m referring to future analysis.
Don’t rewrite the script Matthew. I never mention the past.
You think this is over because of past profits. Those profits
are not that exceptional because you have been invested in
the decline leading up to the rally. Its all hype.
Lets not go down this road again with your blow hard success
stories.
STAY THE ____ OUT OF MY BUSINESS. !!!
Chicken Little, your “analysis” begins and ends with your fear that your worst fears will come true. Good luck with that approach.
There you go – name calling again Matthew.
You can’t hold a conversation. Good luck with
your paper fools gold.
You’re going to need much more than luck.
Its not my assets. Go for it !!!!
It’s your future loss.
Gotta agree Mathew, altho it could happen, the world is gonna end isnt really a positive approach to investing.
The Elite have all the genuine physical and
have distributed all the paper fools gold to
all the future bag holders. Everyone now has
paper gold products.
Again, if you don’t hold it, you don’t own it.
Enjoy the future declines in paper fools gold.
It’s all a set up. The bag holders are all in now.
Big correction is here. Paper is toxic.
You buy physical metals when the financial
historic collapse is going to be the worst in
history.
NO BULL MARKET IN PAPER FOOLS GOLD.
Its guaranteed !
Gold and silver now being hit, but Pt and Pd up.
Its the Yen CFS. The Yen is breaking down and that is not bullish gold or silver. Might explain all the withdrawals from GLD and the recent negative action in metals so I would keep an eye on that.
An MP3 podcast from an older RealVision broadcast:
http://www.macrovoices.com/macro-voices-research/podcast-mp3-files/164-mv-rvtv-2016-07-17-stephanie-pomboy/file
Despite silver dropping on the COMEX, it is rock solid on the SGE.
Remember this, the high prices that are being recorded now, few people imagine that the peak has actually been reached. Most people expect The Big Bull Market to go on and on. Most people though naive believe in prosperity, that is the hold that the stock markets have on their perception of utopia. Very few people want to look or even care about the future, the markets have them trapped in the here and now. The Fed will keep priming the pump until the election is over in November, and Janet Yellen is replaced.
I just watched sixty minutes interview Donald Trump and Pence, who by the way is an establishment supporter, Lesley Stall attacks Trump in a way that she would never interview Hillary Clinton. CBS news has not been fair in it’s reporting for a long time and they have discredited their best anchorman since Walter Cronkite namely Dan Rather. If Americans can’t see how their media is pandering to the rich and powerful while excluding the middle class they should vote for Hillary. The road that they have been following is only going to bring their demise and that is a shame. DT
Catherine Austin Fitts..at Usawatchdog
Game over
Or not
Its been over. Everyone will be in a state of shock
and panic will hit the streets.
They held it back for 8 years. The cork is coming off.
~ R.I.P. ~
Catherine Austin Fitts-The Debt Game Is Over
Did the British make a deal with China
It might be a while but war is definitely brewing…
Dang iPad!
Probably. My guess is they are setting up London as the European center of operation for the (20-30 years from now) new reserve currency.
Also saying let’s keep tariffs at zero after Brexit, as the quid pro quo.
Mr. Big Al Korelin,
Could you have Rick do an analysis on Yamana? Thank you.
Here’s Zack’s recent comments:
Yamana Gold (AUY) Shares March Higher, Can It Continue?
Zacks Equity Research – ZACKS – Fri Jul 15, 9:14AM CDT
As of late, it has definitely been a great time to be an investor in Yamana Gold Inc. AUY. The stock has moved higher by 19% in the past month, while it is also above its 20 Day SMA too. This combination of strong price performance and favorable technical, could suggest that the stock may be on the right path.
We certainly think that this might be the case, particularly if you consider AUY’s recent earnings estimate revision activity. From this look, the company’s future is quite favorable; as AUY has earned itself a Zacks Rank #1 (Strong Buy), meaning that its recent run may continue for a bit longer, and that this isn’t the top for the in-focus company.
My comment: I have own this stock off and on for over 20 years and watched it grow to over $ 5 billion market Price
Support Pivot Point Resistance
5.89 5.72 5.86 6.00
Thanks. I am a long time stockholder.
Here’s the very bad news that’s going to send the world into the Apocalypse !
America is going up in a nuclear inferno for this. Those that don’t speak out against
this sick sick atrocity are guilty just as much as the perpetrators.
All of humanity is about to experience the worst times in the history of the world.
These sick abominations just get worse. The very reason nuclear war is on the table.
People refuse to wake up. We are moving quickly into the calamity that few realize that’s
coming. Police officers are being slaughtered daily. Its all coming to a bitter end.
Please, gold is not, even going to be a hedge in this coming crisis. Especially paper fools gold. All paper will defaulted on. You can get angry, upset, in denial and ignore the warnings
but it does not change the facts. This road is already paved.
Martins Armstrongs major war cycle is eye popping right now.
Contributors, or at least one in particular won’t mention any names
says gold luck with the world war.
EXCUSE ME, what are you blind and have the discernment of a empty
snail shell.
You must have mush for brains. You can’t read either. Mr. Perma Gold Bull
man, your all hype. Keep dreaming !
“Good luck” but yes you will need lots of “gold luck”.
Mr. Perma Gold Bull. !!!
Yes, good luck. You’ve missed massive gains this year and will obviously miss the whole bull market. Enjoy your delusions!
I never had to suffer through all the declines and then shout from roof
tops , look I’m up 5 times. Sure and I walk on water.
NO GOLD BULL MARKET IN PAPER FOOLS GOLD FROM HERE ! Toxic. !
Yes, you can still take it to the bank. Btw, enjoy the fire and brimestone too.
Goes to prove how uninformed you really are. $$$ in the eyes. Blinded !
This time paper gold is D.O.A.
Have a nice day, bud. !
Lie to yourself all you want, it won’t change the fact that you’ve been nothing but wrong.
By the end of the year you will still be wrong and still in denial. You’re awesome dude. 😉
You are going to soon find out how wrong your going to be.
Its very certain and assured long term. Maybe you have a little
bit of fuel on the upside but thats guaranteed to fizzle out like
a old coke bottle.
Again, no gold bull market in fake fools gold paper.
Enjoy your wild fantasies and fools gold paper.
China seems interested in buying up high tech UK companies, cheaper now after Brexit vote.
NOAAupdated their La Nina forecast and now see a 55% – 60% chance of La Nina in the fall/winter. That is down from a 75% chance in last month’s update. Near term maps continue to bring volatility to ag markets and energy.
Remember “pros” also is an abbreviation for prostitutes.
Also it is immoral to aid someone engaging in an immoral act.
(Hint:don’t lend money to a government that manipulates interest rates in order to steal from the general public. You become an immoral enabler.)
Check out the map at the bottom of the article……
__________________________________________________________________________
20 Countries That Own 88% of World’s Gold
By Douglas A. McIntyre July 18, 2016
Dow To Gold Ratio Reveals Sharp Downturn In General Stock Market
Jul. 17, 2016
‘This Defies Reason’: Wake Up, The Defaults Have Begun
Jul. 17, 2016
http://seekingalpha.com/article/3988958-this-defies-reason-wake-defaults-begun?ifp=0
Despite The S&P 500’s All-Time High, Prudent Investors Should Focus On Protecting Capital
Jul. 17, 2016
It Is Not About The Dollar, But About Other Currencies
Jul. 16, 2016
http://seekingalpha.com/article/3988855-dollar-currencies?ifp=0
Note the World Council that issued the report ACTUALLY SAID NOTHING LIKE THIS!
The world gold council used the word “control”
It may be semantics but while the US has thousands of tones of gold at Fort Knox, it controls that gold, but does it “own” it?
Enquiring minds, smarter than mine would probably like to know….Ron Paul certainly asked the question many times!
Agreed. The words Control and Own are 2 different things, and I’m not sure we’ll ever have the kind of transparency that RP wanted with an audit. I just thought it was interesting to look at that map of what the supposed ounces of Gold in each country were. Some countries held less than I expected, and if they start buying to shore up their gold holdings, then that would be a mover in the metals prices.
I was not criticizing you, Excelsior, just point out potential clever semantics.
Intended to mislead? I don’t know.
Yes, it has always been a grey area of how much? who owns this gold free and clear?
What I’d like to see is how many unencumbered tones of gold does each country holds, that does not have loans or thousands of paper contracts against it.
Since it doesn’t really effect my trading holdings on a day to day basis, I give it very little thought, but every once in a while it is interesting to tally up what countries have what holding in gold.
I’m interested in 2 themes:
1) the migration of physical gold from West to East (and the inevitable challenge the West will have in getting enough gold back into physical form for coinage/bars/ETF inflows, when the day comes where it wants it back).
2) The potential shoring up of Gold in the central banks & country coffers around the world and how this buying may pressure the physical markets much more than jewelry demand or even retail investor demand.
Latest WGC figures as at March have Venezuela holding 230.1t (down from 360t) yet from news reports we know some (all?) of this is swapped and not even in Venezuela’s “control”. The reporting on central bank gold reserves is far from clear.
Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-18/pakistans-kim-kardashian-killed-brother-islamic-honor-killing
Right!
Ryan, Wolfman, & anyone else following the MEXUS GOLD (MXSG) development story.
I had a short exchange with investor relations last week, where I pointed out their most recent press releases were not visible in “latest News” tab but were only found if you dug down in the “investors” tab. They thanked me for the heads up and got that press release posted on the 14th. (I’m impressed they were so responsive).
I also asked them about why they don’t have a current Corporate Presentation. They responded that is because they think waiting until the 4th quarter will be a good time for the release of a Corporate Presentation.
(I don’t know what the rationale is for waiting until the 4th quarter, but maybe that is when MarMar will have things ready to rock for commercial production?)
Just thought I’d pass that along…… 😉
For those investors following the AVNEL GOLD (AVNZF) development story:
Many trading platforms had halted trading in the OTC (AVNZF) for several weeks when they switched it to a Canadian OTC on June 24, and investors were locked out of trading. After getting frustrated by the market makers inability to get this csuip updated to the new one, I reached out to the CEO Howard Miller and he called me back. I explained the situation for US investors, and he thanked me, was unaware it hadn’t been resolved, held a meeting that afternoon, and the next day all US investors still locked out had their shares converted to the new cusip for (AVNZF).
Once again, I was VERY IMPRESSED with the action taken, in a quick time frame, and that someone in management actually cared. We forget sometimes that there is the human side to any publicly traded company, and there is a respect I have for management that cares……down to the individual investor level.
Cheers!
Avnel Gold – Corporate Presentation – June 2016
Check out pages (5-7):
http://avnelgold.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/20160620-AVK-Investor-Presentation.pdf
Mexus Gold US (MXSG)0.0660 up .0061 (10.18%)As of 3:52 PM EDT.
Trader joke:
This is a bull market. You should do some research.
I wouldnt worry about guess when a war breakes out. Your powerless to do anything about it..Worry about something that has merrit.
You’re just hot winded Hick Bill, with your boot strapes
all tangled up.
An easy catch, like throwing an old clothes line in the
water, you will bite on anything.
Reverse course Hick Boy Bill, before I trim all your fins back.
Make my day. Can’t wait to wheel you in Hick Boy.
Try and do some research. If you did you would know.
Same troll from before eh?
Is the world still ending in 2015?
You should have a talk with GSC and TMM and tell the to STOP going up! Bought at .30 and .25
Illiquid penny fools gold mining shares. I’m really impressed.
Toxic future assets and Bill is so anxious to be a bag holder.
Sounds just like a hick. Hanging himself with his own rope.
It’s not over till you cash in and convert it to real wealth.
Enjoy the digits in fake wealth while it lasts.
The firey judgments are already here. The signs are everywhere
except for people like you. No discernment.
Trader joke:
This is a bull market. You should do some research.
I wouldnt worry about guess when a war breakes out. Your powerless to do anything about it..Worry about something that has merrit.
I wouldnt worry about me. You havent a fkn clue what I own. The whole.sytem could burn down tomorrow and I wouldnt lose a thing. Also our farmn is off grid capable. Im one in100k+++ that is complete unreliant. I sold 50.% of my stuff at 200% profit and do you know what that means? Pack sand fool
No, it’s the other way around. You will see nuclear war for this atrocity and they are
getting ready right now to put everyone’s lights out. Courtesy of God The Father who
nearly is ready to remove his protecive hand on The Western nations especially N.
America Godless Canada is all going to go up into a nuclear inferno.
SICK SICK SICK AND CITIZENS OF WESTERN NATIONS JUST CELEBRATED THE RENEWAL
OF THE LAW WITH A BIG PARTY. Babies being harvested alive of their parts for profit.
INSTEAD OF CALLING ME “FOOL” YOU BETTER GET ON YOUR KNEES AND PRAY.
Tell God you are not part of these atrocities and you are totally against it.
Get right with God before it rains down fire and brimstone nuclear war heads.
Because the next breath people take will be in a very bad bad place for eternity.
YOU DON’T BELIEVE IT — YOU WILL FIND OUT WHEN YOU GET THERE.
ITS COMING – NUCLEAR WAR — All these abominations and things people do are going to
burn. Its coming very soon.
IGNORE IT AT YOUR OWN PERIL. If you dare criticize this that will be used as a witness
against you with God because judgment is coming in the form of fire.
The world is in a very dangerous place right now.
Yup same guy waist of time. Nothing you can do about it.
I wonder if I can get out of my postion. 2.5mil trade a day.
God gave us the free will to destroy ourselves.
No, you will be held accountable. That’s what you don’t understand.
A waste of time ? I’m trying to keep you out of the bottomless pit for
eternity and eternal fire.
If you continue in this attitude and set God aside, you are in
very serious trouble for all of eternity. All the money in the
world has nothing to offer in trade for that. I’m very
unimpressed. Not only that, no care at all for the innocent
babies being cut up. Maybe the best place for you is hell.
HAVE A GOOD TRIP. !!!
Me LOL
You first spamming idiot. Not sure why Al lets you post again.
I wouldn’t respond to you again for a million buck. F off
Have a good trip. !!!!
Good bye paper fools gold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYBvyn63T1w
You have two Big trips to the bottom.
And those innocent babies = a fire storm judgment.
Dress lightly, its going to be lava Hot !
Unless of coarse you reverse coarse
and repent.
Here’s the pay back to a society killing innocent babies alive
and then selling the body parts.
NUCLEAR WAR INFERNO. Signs in the news and nukes are loose.
THE FINAL TRIP DOWN TO THE BOTTOMLESS PIT — LAVA HOT INFERNO.
Hi Skeeter!