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The big picture look at the jobs number

Big Al
August 5, 2016

This morning with Chris Temple we take a look at the jobs numbers but not only on an absolute basis. We are seeing a continuing trend for job creation that still has many worried this recovery is not all it’s cracked up to be. We also consider how (or if) such data points actually have an impact on the general American’s life.

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71 Comments
    Aug 05, 2016 05:06 AM

    What is going to hit? The end of the world? Can I buy options in that?

      Aug 05, 2016 05:02 AM

      Yes you can Bob UK….. Try the ETF (OVER) or the (SHT) Fund.
      They are managed by HH/TJ.

        Aug 05, 2016 05:36 AM

        Don’t you meant the SHTF fund?

          Aug 05, 2016 05:38 AM

          Some are very big on investing in the (SHTF) fund, but I don’t like the triple leveraged ones.

            Aug 05, 2016 05:00 PM

            Some others I have considered averaging into over time are:

            (ZOMB) – Zombie Apocalypse ETF

            (ROBT) – Robot Takeover ETF

            (EMP) – EMP Stability Fund

            (VRUS) – Virus Immunity ETF

            Let me know if there are any others you think may represent good value. Thanks!

            Aug 05, 2016 05:57 PM

            Ha !

            Aug 05, 2016 05:30 PM

            😮

    Aug 05, 2016 05:17 AM

    The average American is not afforded the luxury of time to pay attention to what is happening financially on a macro basis.
    They are to busy just trying to get by.
    Once things fall apart,they will be the first ones to question what just happened.
    By that time it will be to late.

      GH
      Aug 05, 2016 05:05 AM

      It’s not a luxury, most people just can’t be bothered.

        LPG
        Aug 05, 2016 05:38 PM

        +1 to that GH.
        LPG

    Aug 05, 2016 05:28 AM

    Jobs numbers are a joke,still 97million on food stamps

      Aug 05, 2016 05:09 PM

      Jerry,

      There are not 97 million on food stamps. There are about 44 million on food stamps.

      http://www.trivisonno.com/wp-content/uploads/Food-Stamps-Monthly.jpg

        Aug 05, 2016 05:02 PM

        Does that number include the kids

          Aug 05, 2016 05:06 PM

          47 or 97 million ,that is still a lot of poor people,which do not earn a living wage

            Aug 05, 2016 05:08 PM

            Just looking at the numbers, The number has doubled since Dumbo has been in office

            Aug 05, 2016 05:12 PM

            The number will double again,if Hillary gets in, She will run this country like she runs her Foundation .

            Aug 05, 2016 05:44 PM

            Jerry,

            I agree that 47 million is still to many people. Even though we are supposedly in a recovery the number of food stamp recipients have not fallen much. Probably because many of those adults that work just work part-time or have a low paying job and still qualify. Some of them do it intentionally to keep getting welfare.

          Aug 05, 2016 05:15 PM

          Btw thanks for the chart

            Aug 05, 2016 05:12 PM

            J Miller, hope all is well with you as well,and thanks for asking. Thanks for the additional info.

          Aug 05, 2016 05:38 PM

          Jerry,

          Hope you are doing well. Yes, that number includes children. Any child that is in a household that receives foods stamps is counted in the total number of people receiving food stamps. Now I have seen people say that there are somewhere around 100 million people in the U.S. that are receiving some kind of food assistance from programs like the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) also called food stamps, the National School Lunch Program (NSLP), the School Breakfast Program (SBP), the Summer Food Service Program (SFSP), the Emergency Food Assistance Program (TEFAP), etc… But they are wrong. There are not 100 million different people receiving food assistance. It is more like 50 million different people if that. They make the mistake of counting the number of people receiving benefits in each program and then they add the total up which comes to around that 100 million figure. What they do not realize is that many children receive food assistance from several programs so most children are being counted two or three times, once for each program that they are in. So there are not 100 million people but only about 50 million people that receive some kind of food assistance with many receiving assistance from more than one program.

            Aug 05, 2016 05:15 PM

            See above, l am working off the phone with a small screen and a mind of it’s own.

    Aug 05, 2016 05:29 AM

    Are people on wall street that stupid

    DFS
    Aug 05, 2016 05:31 AM

    But a whole bunch of those are probably illiterate refugees, who we will deport if they break the law ( by not voting democrat).
    That is what is happening in Sweden, isn’t it?
    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8619/sweden-asylum-seekers-violence

    Aug 05, 2016 05:02 AM

    Forget about mining stocks…I wonder who bought this Wayne Gretzky rookie card way back when? Not to mention Honus Wagner and the rest. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/wayne-gretzky-rookie-card-honus-000000421.html

      Aug 05, 2016 05:13 AM

      I know right? Who wants to invest in companies that are risky, when it is probably much safer to buy cardboard pictures.

      Investors will be sorry when the economy falls apart in a debt spiral any moment, and human beings finally make the obvious transition over to Sports memorabilia cards for all daily commerce and transactions.

      It seems the best thing to do is trade all my gold & silver (that doesn’t pay a dividend or yield, it just sits there collecting dust like an old relic) for a piece of cardboard for the upcoming financial meltdown. It’s the wave of the future!!

      🙂

        Aug 05, 2016 05:21 AM

        Of course, if times get really tough, even Sports memorabilia cards may go up in smoke, because I heard there are 100 paper contracts on each actual cardboard picture, so it is a derivative juggernaut waiting to implode.

        If it truly becomes a meltdown, it is clear the world would most likely throw all these financial hedges out the window and revert back to PEZ dispensers, porcelain figurines, and Velvet Elvis paintings. Be schmart – buy art.

          Aug 05, 2016 05:29 PM

          To funny.Thanks for the laugh.

      B
      Aug 05, 2016 05:34 AM

      A Wayne rookie for hundres of k?
      Guess I shoulda kept mine.
      I bought if for $20 sold for $400.
      Thought I was doin ok at the time.

        Aug 05, 2016 05:05 PM

        I cringe when I think of all the baseball cards I had as a kid that my father decided to throw away without telling me when we moved. Many were older than me; my uncle had given me them.

          Aug 05, 2016 05:36 PM

          The baseball cards you had a kid were played with and much loved – as they should be.

          The ones that are worth a fortune today have probably never been played with, collected with love or given with love.

          B
          Aug 05, 2016 05:02 PM

          Yup, that was kinda standard then, kid moves chuck his stuff.

          Yup Bob, most cards I had were put in bycicle spokes or we played closest to the wall.

          Guess thats why the ones in good shape are rare.

    Aug 05, 2016 05:00 PM

    I think today we are closer to a flash crash than we were yesterday – if that makes any sense?.

    I can see a crash now to shake everyone out and then plain sailing upwards into November.

      Aug 05, 2016 05:30 PM

      Are you talking conventional markets or PMs?

        Aug 05, 2016 05:33 PM

        Conventionals.

        However, I suspect that we will get a sizeable drop that, because so many are leveraged, will force people to liquidate PM positions also.

        I am thinking of another January or an August 2015.

        A crash would be just the right excuse also for the Fed to say that there is too much uncertainty in the markets to raise.

        Look, the NASDAQ is at highs. Volume is non-existent. Where is the energy going to come from to push stocks higher at the moment?

          Aug 05, 2016 05:15 PM

          Bob:
          I agree with your questions of where more input will come from. Billions have been extracted from mutual funds by individuals. There is not a lot on the sidelines of the mutual fund industry…..they are pretty will 100% all in. The elderly savers won’t throw their savings in the market, even at 0 interest rates. When they go negative, they’ll put it under the mattress. Some, a few will buy PMs.
          Saw this by our friend Gary this morning: You may enjoy his take: http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1470405660.php Enjoy your day.

    Aug 05, 2016 05:26 PM

    Precious Metal ETFs – Super Force VIDEO Analysis
    Morris Hubbartt – posted Aug 5, 2016

    http://www.321gold.com/editorials/sfs/hubbartt080516.html

    Aug 05, 2016 05:29 PM

    Al:
    You brought up the famous 47% that Romney mentioned. I’ve never seen that # analyzed but I’m sure it must include social security recipients and folks covered by Medicare. I’m certainly in that group although I carry a private insurance policy in addition to Medicare and the VA (Vietnam, you know). My health is good at this point and I don’t consider myself a burden on the system by any means. Am I to assume from your comments that you and your wife are NOT on SS and Medicare which would put you into the same group as myself: part of the 47%? Just need some clarity, that’s all.
    PMs are down today for one simple reason………I took delivery this morning of some more physical that I purchased by phone yesterday.
    Thanks for the show.

      Aug 07, 2016 07:23 AM

      We do take our ssi and regarding insurance we have supplements that we pay for ourselves. Are we a burden on the system? I suppose if one considers ssi, then we are a burden.

    Aug 05, 2016 05:34 PM

    Al was close — the number was actually 47 million (people)…not 47% That was the # Romney cited on food stamps and the like, who were automatic Democrat Party votes.

      DFS
      Aug 05, 2016 05:58 PM

      There is a distinct correlation between voting (red state vs blue state) and percentage of population on food stamps.

      http://www.cheatsheet.com/view-image?src=2015/01/food-stamp-chart-final-feb-2015.jpg&35d693

        DFS
        Aug 05, 2016 05:05 PM

        P.s. I did run the numbers 4 years ago and the correlation with race was higher than voting.
        This will sound racist, but I’m just giving a factual statement.
        Black race correlates higher food stamp use than democrat voting correlates with food stamp use.

        Aug 05, 2016 05:26 PM

        Check out DC..21.66%

      Aug 05, 2016 05:20 PM

      Right. I’m aware of the huge # on food stamps but I truly doubt that they are all democrats. That would be a good subject for a reporter some day to look into. Thanks for the clarification.

    Aug 05, 2016 05:45 PM

    Lundin Gold Announces Agreement With Government of Ecuador on Investment Protection Agreement
    VANCOUVER, CANADA–(Marketwired – Aug. 5, 2016)

    http://www.juniorminingnetwork.com/junior-miner-news/press-releases/923-tsx/lug/23126-lundin-gold-announces-agreement-with-government-of-ecuador-on-investment-protection-agreement.html

      Aug 05, 2016 05:17 PM

      Odin Mining to team up with Ecuador Gold and Copper

      In a friendly all-share deal that knits together assets in southern Ecuador, Odin Mining and Exploration (TSXV: ODN), a junior that counts mining entrepreneur Ross Beaty as its largest shareholder, is acquiring Ecuador Gold and Copper (TSXV: EGX)

      http://www.northernminer.com/subscribe-login/?id=1003776075

    PF
    Aug 05, 2016 05:51 PM

    Americans have been over-consuming for years. The fact that some are maybe cutting back now is good for their long-term discipline.

      DFS
      Aug 05, 2016 05:17 PM

      I see no voluntary action in cutting back. Credit has tightened up and more are credit-limited.

      DFS
      Aug 05, 2016 05:24 PM

      WASHINGTON (AP) — Consumers increased their borrowing in June but at the slowest pace in 17 months as auto and student loans registered the slowest growth in nearly five years.

      The Federal Reserve said Friday that total borrowing rose by $12.3 billion in June, down sharply from an increase of $17.9 billion in May. That was the smallest monthly gain since January 2015.

      The slowdown in borrowing came from a big decrease in the growth of auto and student loans, which rose by just $4.6 billion in June, the weakest monthly performance since this loan category declined in August 2011.

      The category that covers credit cards rose by $7.7 billion in June, up from an increase of $1.8 billion in May and the largest monthly gain in this category since March.

      Much of the slowdown in borrowing reflects a slowing in auto sales which have hit a plateau after six straight years of growth. Last year, auto sales climbed to a record of 17.5 million new vehicles. In the first half of the year, auto sales were up 1.5 percent, compared to a gain of 4 percent for the first half of 2015.

      The increase in overall borrowing pushed total credit to a fresh record of $3.63 trillion. Many economists expect total borrowing will keep rising at a solid pace as consumers keep spending, bolstered by strong job growth.

    Aug 05, 2016 05:08 PM

    $19.72 silver,better buy some

    DFS
    Aug 05, 2016 05:29 PM

    SGE CLOSED AT $20.08 for silver. It was only below$20 for a few minutes early, and sat between $20.15 and $20.08 for most of the time.

    Aug 05, 2016 05:56 PM

    Jobs numbers are accurate to withing +or – 200,000 jobs yet the market salivates for these numbers and waits to react.

    Aug 05, 2016 05:07 PM

    Elon Musk is building a car plant in Nevada to produce Tesla’s that will be the second largest plant in the world. The irony is that it will be all robotic machinery “Humans Need Not Apply”. Yet Henry Ford paid his employees double the average industrial wage 100 years ago so they could afford his car. Wake up people, the machines don’t need the humans. The cars also drive themselves, who needs employment, the machines don’t need us, Get It! DT