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Cory
October 20, 2016

As part of the new KER Politics Doc, Chris, Cory and Al all weigh in on last night’s debate. We discuss the general tone of the debate and the question of did Trump or Clinton help undecided voters figure out who they will vote for.

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127 Comments
    Oct 20, 2016 20:03 AM

    Hillary is JEZEBEL.

    If she is elected this country is finished, rather quickly.

    Here is a reprint of what I published last week for those who missed it…

    Trump against the world…

    The recently released video of Donald Trump’s conversation with Billy Bush where Mr. Trump uses profane, vulgar, offensive and insulting language has created a firestorm of backlash like no other.

    From the in the bag for Jezebel mainstream media, to the weasel hypocrite republicans, to the social political evangelical pastors, to the left wing communists, to the Miss Universe, everyone is against Trump.

    He is a disgusting pig. A foul mouthed women basher.

    I would be remiss if I didn’t speak out on this subject, in no uncertain terms.

    And I won’t spare.

    I won’t suffer fools.

    Let’s be clear – what Mr. trump said is vulgar, crude and offensive.
    It is beyond “locker room talk”

    It is gutter talk.

    However let’s also be clear in unambiguous terms –

    Hillary Clinton is the devil incarnate.

    This country will not survive if this Jezebel is elected President.

    It is just that simple.

    We are already teetering on the edge and she is certain to push us over.

    So before people want to get so high and holy think about that.

    Let’s face it, short of JESUS CHRIST himself as president they are all lying, corrupt, frauds and hypocrites.

    So to stand here and announce how disgusted you are with Mr. Trumps words why don’t you put on your big boy pants and get off your holy pedestal.

    I won’t repeat what I have personally heard of this blog, I will use restraint.
    But you know where I am going.

    Doesn’t it say something in the Bible about casting stones?

    This election is too important to allow words to sway the vote.
    Actions are what counts.

    This Jezebel will destroy this country.

    If you want to be a holier than thou no show than you are in essence voting for the devil incarnate.

    Until JESUS CHRIST himself is reigning than this is the choice.

    If JEZEBEL wins we are done.
    If Trump wins maybe we go down swinging at least.

    The choice is yours.

      Oct 20, 2016 20:14 AM

      Hillary is Nurse Ratched, Lady Macbeth, and the Wicked Witch of the West. She is utterly banal and has never given tongue to an interesting thought. And she seems to be dying of Parkinson’s and has to rest up for 5 days before they drug her to get through a debate. She and her husband are more corrupt than any politicians in American history, even surpassing LBJ, and are pathological liars. Never Hillary!

        Oct 20, 2016 20:22 AM

        Multiple sclerosis seems more likely to me.

          Oct 20, 2016 20:45 AM

          Either is fine with me!

            Oct 20, 2016 20:01 PM

            I keep hoping that at one of her tiresome speeches Hillary will explode from a massive internal fart. She must think we are idiots if we believe her when she says she is a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment. All it takes is just one more liberal like Ginsberg on the Supreme Court and you can kiss the 2nd Amendment goodbye. And Hillary picked Ginsberg.

            Oct 20, 2016 20:56 PM

            Common Bonzo, you may not care for her, but let’s not wish that kind of ill on a person.

          Oct 20, 2016 20:55 PM

          Matthew, why would you say MS?

            CFS
            Oct 20, 2016 20:10 PM

            As a relative on someone who has lived with MS for some 15 years, some of her involuntary head and eye movements are not atypical of possible MS, but they can also be connected with Parkinson’s disease, I understand. Only her doctor of pharmacist would know for sure.

          DC
          Oct 22, 2016 22:25 AM

          Matthew, after closely observing her in a number of videos, I lined out my medical opinion about her “Parkinson’s” on the blog last week, and I’m qualified in that regard (maybe you already read it, I can’t remember which day or under which commentator). It is my professional opinion that the most probable diagnosis is, indeed, MS (obviously, without examining her and running test, I can’t make a definite diagnosis).

          I also gave my opinion on why that “rumor” was allowed to spread for so long, aided by medical pundits professional opinions. I would go so far as to say now that her camp actually started the rumor so that they could put an end to people commenting about her health by issuing a doctor’s letter claiming that she was examined and does not have Parkinson’s. The assumption by the masses after that announcement is that she only had pneumonia (which she did not have, I assure you, even without examining her) and that she’s in good health. Few, it seems, really looked at the wording of the letter. It stated “she does not have Parkinson’s”. No where did it state that she was found to be in good health, nor did it explain any of the symptoms that everyone is seeing.

          A wheelchair is the next phase.

        Oct 20, 2016 20:38 AM

        She is human proof power corrupts. Mother in law is worse but she has no secret service details.

          Oct 20, 2016 20:57 PM

          Please explain what you mean by “mother in law is worse”

          Thank you

            Oct 20, 2016 20:59 PM

            My mother in law also very difficult woman. Give her an army and my life is hell. This is human nature. Too much wasting words here about personality that is common for all people. You comments are often about how good and bad people are in politics and not about the job. Please concentrate on facts.

            Oct 20, 2016 20:01 PM

            Also. I like Hillary. Better than my mother in law.

            Oct 21, 2016 21:28 PM

            Chirp.

        Oct 20, 2016 20:54 PM

        well Bonzo we all certainly know where you stand.

          Oct 20, 2016 20:44 PM

          i’m with Bonzo Al. I have never seen a more corrupt deceitful individual unless of course you compare her to obama in which case it is a draw. This nation cannot withstand another 4 years of corruption and lawlessness which hillary represents.

      b
      Oct 20, 2016 20:47 AM

      Trump saying he could do whatever he wanted to a woman? He could even grab them and get away with it.

      The way people talk about how rotten he is makes me think nobody has ever worked with men before.

      At the time I was in the forces, men talking about sex with women was pretty common, and they were very creative.
      Remember, these guys are the “heroes” people cheer for at sporting events etc.

      Men talking about sex with women is not a big deal, normal actually.

      They ask these young athletes, “do you guys talk like that?”
      lol, you honustly expect them to say “why, yes, yes we do, you should hear the things this club says..” not likely.

      Trump was talking about what he Could do, not what he did (grabbing anyway) and he could get away with it Im sure. So could any other person with billions, women seem to be all over people with cash, if thats shocking check Vegas out.
      Actually, if thats shocking you dont know human nature.

      These comments have been made into a much bigger deal than they are, more of a great sheep being lead example than anything.

      And who the heck would secretly record a mens locker room? What kind of a sick puppy would do that?
      And then keep the recording for what? 11 years? nothing fishy about that at all.

      One more thought, I havnt gone to a strip club for years, ever since I found out the strippers could be sex slaves, anyway, the last time I went, the girls would spread their legs and men would thro coins at them.

      The women totally degraded themselves and the rightous wife mother daughter loving men would cheer.

      Trump said something and people have to say how horrible he is, “what a sleezeball”
      Boy are we a world of hypocrites or what?

        GH
        Oct 20, 2016 20:44 PM

        I’m sure no women ever say raunchy or risque things among friends when they think they won’t be overheard, whether in jest or seriously.

        But IF they did, I’m sure there would be no double standard, and they would be put through the ringer.

        Not.

        Oct 20, 2016 20:01 PM

        b, we certainly are “a world of hypocrites” This certainly does not pertain simply to talk of sexual exploits.

      Oct 20, 2016 20:53 PM

      James that I a great comment, Thanks

    Oct 20, 2016 20:08 AM

    It looks like TLTFF Theralase has received approval for human testing with their recent press release. This should be big news. 6 time increase in daily volume with MM slowing trading to a crawl. Price gain minimal. Not sure why….

      Oct 20, 2016 20:18 PM

      We will have Roger on the Show tomorrow.

        Oct 20, 2016 20:14 PM

        Wow!

        Would you ask him what he thinks about Bill Clinton’s son, Danney Williams’ lawsuit?

        Can you ask him why the mainstream media is covering this up?

        Can you imagine what the mainstream media would say if Danney claimed Trump was his father?

        Does he think Danney should have his day in court and does he think there will be justice for Danney? Do black lives matter to the lamestream media, to Bill or to Hillary?

        This is on the Citizens For Trump Web site

        DANNEY WILLIAMS, ABANDONED SON OF PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON, WILL FILE PATERNI…
        Citizens to elect Donald J. Trump as President of the United States of America!

        DANNEY WILLIAMS, ABANDONED SON OF PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON, WILL FILE PATERNITY SUIT AGAINST FORMER PREZ

        http://citizensfortrump.com/2016/10/19/press-conference-danney-williams-abandoned-son-president-bill-clinton-ask-dna-sample-ex-prez/

        Oct 20, 2016 20:23 PM

        Also, does Roger know who that fake blonde Daily Beast reporter is in the Danny William’s news conference who was grilling him?

        Danny said that he read Roger’s book (and that he is mentioned in the book) and that he reached out to Roger but Roger never replied. Is this true?

    Oct 20, 2016 20:11 AM

    Politics: Both are pawns.

      Oct 20, 2016 20:18 PM

      You know what5 David, I have a sneaking suspicion that you could be correct.

    Oct 20, 2016 20:16 AM

    Term limits

      Oct 20, 2016 20:06 AM

      +4 (4 years and your out) No worrying about getting re-elected or campaigning. Just get in, make a difference, do you job, and get out. Then it’s someone else’s turn.

        Oct 20, 2016 20:06 AM

        your should be “you’re”

        Oct 20, 2016 20:14 AM

        Ditto

      GH
      Oct 20, 2016 20:01 PM

      I saw a Trump video yesterday where he said he would fight for term limits, put the brakes on the revolving door between congress and the lobbying world, and I believe he also called for campaign finance reform.

      Liberals, or progressives, or whatever they want to call themselves, ought to be doing cartwheels for Trump. But I believe most of them can’t see past their conditioning, and because Trump is not the PC messenger they need to hear it from, they will ignore him.

      IMO, the two most important issues in this election are 1) Corruption; and 2) War. It would be hard to be worse than Hillary on either.

      Too bad Trump isn’t a better debater. He should have been able to eviscerate her. But then, that would require departing from the official narrative with which the US has been propagandized, and I haven’t seen that he’s got a very good understanding of reality outside that box anyway.

        Oct 20, 2016 20:53 PM

        GH,
        I agree completely! What most people don’t get from Trump is that, with term limits, a 15% tax for companies AND individuals, along with giving power back to the states is acually going back to the constitution…!! But people can’t hear that because they never have studied the constitution. I guess the 1 thru 12 grade indoctrination program and brainwashed college professors have done a number on the American people..

        Oct 20, 2016 20:20 PM

        I pretty much agree with you entire comment GH

          GH
          Oct 20, 2016 20:13 PM

          Good to know I’m in good company, Al ;-).

          I like the new political page. That way we can keep the hot side hot, and the cold side cold, so to speak. I.e., not mix investment nuts and bolts comments with all our political hot air.

    Oct 20, 2016 20:18 AM

    Political class must go….limited government .

      Oct 20, 2016 20:54 AM

      Bill Clinton’s son held a press conference yesterday

        Oct 20, 2016 20:21 AM

        I bet Hilly loved it….

          Oct 20, 2016 20:26 AM

          If you go to infowars you can see it.

          It is just sad. And to think it looks like we will get 8 more years of HilBillary. 🙁

          I attempted to post a link below but was unable but you can get to it with the info below that I posted.

            Oct 20, 2016 20:32 AM

            She will be in a nursing home before 8 yrs,..

      Oct 20, 2016 20:30 AM

      Armstrong – Hillary: Queen of Rage & State Department Cover-ups

      The State Department is deeply involved in criminal activity. They are trying to steer the FBI into a deal to cover-up Hillary’s emails by changing classifications to support her insistence that nothing was classified. This campaign is just getting insane.

      https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/hillary-queen-of-rage-state-department-cover-up/

        Oct 20, 2016 20:33 AM

        She is mad ……. and crazy..

    Oct 20, 2016 20:20 AM

    Ron Paul…mild manner did not work,

      Oct 20, 2016 20:04 AM

      I’d agree with you there OOTB. Loved Ron Paul’s philosophy, but his delivery was so nice and mild-mannered that the other candidates and the media bull dozed him. Libertarians need a strong more vocal candidate if they are ever going to have a chance, but I agree with the article Matthew posted yesterday that this philosophies guiding Libertarians are at odd with corporations and politicians.

      _________________________________________________________________________

      Why I Won’t Be Voting: The Real Reason Libertarians Don’t Matter
      from Bretigne Shaffer’s Truth and Fiction – Oct 16, 2016

      “The things libertarians want – freedom, less govt. interference in markets & in personal choices, non-interventionist foreign policy… there is no money in these things for politicians. There are no big corporations and very few rich people who are willing to pay tons of money to politicians to refrain from intervening in markets, or to keep the troops home, or to let people ingest whatever substances they want to.”
      “In fact, it is just the opposite: Corporations have long been in the business of paying politicians to intervene in markets on their behalf, to erect barriers to competition and in some cases to squash a particular competitor… ”

      https://bretigne.liberty.me/why-i-wont-be-voting-the-real-reason-libertarians-dont-matter

      Oct 20, 2016 20:48 AM

      RP was a complete success in my book. Those who could learn, did. Those who couldn’t probably can’t be reached by anyone’s words.

      I’ve said it over and over again, Trump is no enemy of the true power. Never mind what the sociopaths in politics think of him, he will serve the masters as usual. He is not guided by sound or consistent principles but since when has it mattered to the average guy to be principled – or consistent, for that matter.

      “Diet, injections and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. Even if all are miserable, all will believe themselves happy, because the government will tell them that they are so.”
      -Bertrand Russell, The Impact of Science on Society 1953

      As long as the sheeple believe in the system and continue to endorse it by voting, nothing will change. As long as the sheeple remain fearful and easily manipulated by the media, nothing will change. As long as the sheeple prefer to be told what to think rather than thinking for themselves, nothing will change.

      So, count on it, nothing will change.

        Oct 20, 2016 20:54 AM

        The planners and thought controllers have been at it for a long time…

        “Education should aim at destroying free will so that after pupils are thus schooled they will be incapable throughout the rest of their lives of thinking or acting otherwise than as their school masters would have wished … The social psychologist of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black. Various results will soon be arrived at: first, that influences of the home are ‘obstructive’ and verses set to music and repeatedly intoned are very effective … It is for the future scientist to make these maxims precise and discover exactly how much it costs per head to make children believe that snow is black. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for more than one generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen.”
        Bertrand Russell quoting Johann Gottlieb Fichte, the head of philosophy & psychology who influenced Hegel and others – Prussian University in Berlin, 1810

          Oct 20, 2016 20:55 AM

          “Education does not mean teaching people to know what they do not know – it means teaching them to behave as they do not behave.”
          -National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) sponsored report: The Role of Schools in Mental Health

            Oct 20, 2016 20:12 PM

            Thanks for the link. I agree about Charlotte Iserbyt.

            Oct 20, 2016 20:57 PM

            That was obviously meant for GH.

          Oct 20, 2016 20:57 AM

          “…a student attains ‘higher order thinking’ when he no longer believes in right or wrong”. “A large part of what we call good teaching is a teacher´s ability to obtain affective objectives by challenging the student’s fixed beliefs. …a large part of what we call teaching is that the teacher should be able to use education to reorganize a child’s thoughts, attitudes, and feelings.”
          -Benjamin Bloom, psychologist and educational theorist, in “Major Categories in the Taxonomy of Educational Objectives”, p. 185, 1956

          GH
          Oct 20, 2016 20:16 PM

          Good stuff, Matthew.

          NIMH…reminds me of the childhood story ‘Miss Frisby and the Rats of NIMH’, LOL. A story probably all Americans of a certain age are familiar with. Psy Op?

          The quote from the Prussian, Fichte, is instructive. John Taylor Gatto explains that our system is based on the Prussian model, the purpose of which was to create automatons.

          My favorite link on US education, which I have posted a couple times before. John Tayor Gatto, The Ultimate History Lession. It traces the roots of our education/indoctrination system way back, and shows the role of the Fabian Socialists in creating it:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQiW_l848t8&list=PL463AA90FD04EC7A2

          Charlotte Iserbyt has some good videos on the topic as well.

    Oct 20, 2016 20:28 AM

    US and Philippine relationship is like HILLY and Trump …..not looking to good.

    Oct 20, 2016 20:42 AM

    Did you see the glare Hillary gave Donald, when he said he would give power to the states?? She knows he will adhere to the constitution, and that is what pisses-off all of these corrupt politicians. GO TRUMP!!

    Hillary is so deranged to actually think, funding planned parenthood will get her votes. What a dumbass..

      Oct 20, 2016 20:53 AM

      I am going to miss the debates. I loved seeing Trump repeatedly call Shillary a liar and that glare was awesome.

    Oct 20, 2016 20:54 AM

    Mr. Big Al Korelin,

    There is a problem with this blog. It will no longer allow you to post links.

    Oct 20, 2016 20:57 AM

    The whopper of the night had to be Hillary announcing her spending plans would not add a penny to the national debt.

    Oct 20, 2016 20:58 AM
    Oct 20, 2016 20:01 AM

    Mr. Big Al Korelin,

    Your site appears to be censoring inforwars dot com.

    I cannot post a link to it but can post a link to KE Report and 321 gold.

      Oct 20, 2016 20:02 AM

      That should be info wars dot com. Dang iPad!

        Oct 20, 2016 20:08 AM

        http://www.infowars.com/

        try taking off the Http

          Oct 20, 2016 20:09 AM

          eh – it even worked with the http

            Oct 20, 2016 20:20 AM

            Does not work for me. I’ve tried it every which way from Sunday and it does not work. I get a message that says “Thank you for your comment” but nothing is posted.

            Oct 20, 2016 20:21 AM

            www infowars com abandoned-son-of-bill-clinton-holds-historic-press-conference

            Oct 20, 2016 20:22 AM

            Excelsior,

            Above is what I was trying to post as a link.

            Can you try posting that as a link and see if it works for you?

            It is a link to Bill Clinton’s son’s press conference.

            Oct 20, 2016 20:28 AM

            All you need to do is replace the spaces with . in www info wars com and then replace the next space with a slash

            Oct 20, 2016 20:29 AM

            Thanks!

            I have no idea why it won’t work for me.

            I’ve been posting links like that here for years.

            Oct 20, 2016 20:29 AM

            Ebolan – FYI – your post is missing the “.” and “/” symbols in the link.

            Oct 20, 2016 20:33 AM

            Right. I had to post it that way so you could see it. If I post it the correct way the post never shows up.

            Oct 20, 2016 20:35 AM

            ah – I see the dilemma. weird.

      Oct 20, 2016 20:08 AM

      Mr. Big Al Korelin,

      Could you fix censorship so we can link to infowars?

        Oct 20, 2016 20:01 PM

        Sometimes people on the watchlist can’t post links. That’s ok tho, because they are on the liberty watchlist. 😉 Be proud!

        Just kidding Ebolan.

    Oct 20, 2016 20:15 AM

    The debates are nothing more than a clown dance.
    I would like to see more of the questions “yes,no”
    For instance when Hillary was pressed about a no fly zone,and if she would shoot down Russian planes, she did not even answer the question.
    Am I the only one who thought this mattered?
    Why is it so hard for the candidates to stay focused and on point?
    How about a question about the continual killing of innocent women and children?
    Once again we were the losers as Americans last night.There were no winners.

      Oct 20, 2016 20:55 AM

      +1

      GH
      Oct 20, 2016 20:21 PM

      The debate was a totally lame circus.

      Great question on the killing of innocents, including women and children. If Trump has half a brain, then why didn’t he press Hillary on exactly that issue: How much blood of innocents does she have on her hands?

      But I don’t see that Trump is willing to go that far off the reservation.

        GH
        Oct 20, 2016 20:30 PM

        For crying out loud. It’s a debate. You come prepared with your attack issues, and the facts to back them up. How many women and children have been raped or murdered in Libya as a result of HRC’s actions? Major FAIL for the Donald.

        Another one, letting HRC get away with giving Bill credit for the late 90s ‘prosperity’. This myth needs to have a stake driven through it’s heart. You’d think that, at least on this issue, Trump could have run circles around her.

          Oct 20, 2016 20:40 PM

          +1

          GH
          Oct 20, 2016 20:08 PM

          Another one: when she mentioned Bernie Sanders, why didn’t he say, ‘Oh, you mean the guy you and the DNC stole the nomination from?’

          He should have had a whole bag of zingers like this.

            Oct 20, 2016 20:03 PM

            GH :
            I think what we saw was what the people around Mr. Trump advised him to do.The Donald should have known better.
            I agree he should have went on the offensive and never quit.
            Pure and simple, He just got schooled by Hillary.
            I think he under estimated the extent which blackmail is the most effective means in Politics.
            A serious Red Flag for me is Rudy Giuliani. Why has Rudy been so quiet about those involved with 9/11? I have seen him many times on T.V and he has never said squat.
            Much like those in Congress,they all have blood on their hands.

            GH
            Oct 20, 2016 20:05 PM

            Last one: When pressed to commit to accept the results of the election, why didn’t Trump just say, ‘If there is no appearance of fraud, then I will accept the results. But we have seen from wikileaks what a dirty campaign Clinton has run, so I cannot put election fraud past her. We will see.’

            Seriously, how can he not come better prepared for such obvious questions? I understand they had asked him this before.

    Oct 20, 2016 20:23 AM

    HI ALL…DONT TAKE THIS LIGHTLY..this guy is not some nutcake on a rant…HE HAS PUBLICLY DENOUNCE THE USA AND HAS PLACED HIS COUNTRIES FUTURE WITH RUSSIA,,AND CHINA..It the Three of them against the world ..the leader of the Phillipines..WOW now that is BIG news……

      Oct 20, 2016 20:27 AM

      Big news…..indeed

        Oct 20, 2016 20:31 AM

        The Phillipines are sick of US operatives trying to steal their gold.

          Oct 20, 2016 20:35 AM

          Good for them ..

    Oct 20, 2016 20:23 AM

    Great thing about the election..Obamy will be history soon.

      Oct 20, 2016 20:25 AM

      Can not believe that jerk has a birth certificate

      Oct 20, 2016 20:25 AM

      But not Obamycare! At least if Shillary wins.

        Oct 20, 2016 20:40 AM

        Maybe she can get some of that obamycare in the White home nursing facility

    Oct 20, 2016 20:36 AM

    DNC Chair Donna Brazile Pummeled Over Leaked Debate Question, Plays “Persecuted Christian Woman” Card

    Donna Brazile was noticeably uncomfortable for every second of this 10-minute interview with Megyn Kelly of Fox News…”I will not sit here and be persecuted because your information is totally false.”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-20/donna-brazile-pummeled-over-leaked-debate-question-and-dnc-efforts-incite-violence

      Oct 20, 2016 20:41 AM

      That’s a great one …..

        Oct 20, 2016 20:42 AM

        Her and Jessie Jackson can do the Two step together ….

          Oct 20, 2016 20:44 AM

          Put Obamy in the skit and we have a new take on the Three Stooges

    Oct 20, 2016 20:39 AM

    Could Trump win? Yes, lightening could strike. The likely outcome is Pres. HRC, Democratic Senate & GOP House. More of the same. My take: the 2-party system has got to go. The Libertarian Party is, over an extended period of time, the most viable 3rd party. Patience is required.

    Oct 20, 2016 20:04 PM

    Fascicans or Commucrats. You the voting class will decide.

    Oct 20, 2016 20:04 PM

    Goldman Sachs Top Lawyer Is Part of a Secret Banking Cabal as CEO Blankfein Denies One Exists

    There’s a new mantra making the rounds of Washington and Wall Street. No matter how big the lie you’re caught in, no matter how much documented evidence exists against you, just deny, deny, deny. That’s how Democratic National Committee Interim Chair Donna Brazile handled the email released by WikiLeaks showing that she leaked a debate question to Hillary Clinton; that’s how Hillary Clinton handled revelations about sending classified government material over an unclassified server in the basement of her home; and that’s how Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein is handling the widespread public perception that there’s a banking cabal meeting in secret to plot its continued dominance over the interests of the average U.S. citizen.

    http://wallstreetonparade.com/2016/10/goldman-sachs-top-lawyer-is-part-of-a-secret-banking-cabal-as-ceo-blankfein-denies-one-exists/

      GH
      Oct 20, 2016 20:26 PM

      Could that be a new mantra???

      I think not.

      I believe that has been the credo of all humans high and low who are serious about their lying, since time immemorial. Never admit, always deny, even when the evidence is staring everyone in the face.

    Oct 20, 2016 20:12 PM

    Lew and Tom debate analysis:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdZmwLvtSjs

      Oct 20, 2016 20:35 PM

      They point out how Trump in many ways botched the debates. He could have done so much better but let Hillary off the hook.

      Was this on purpose? Do you think Trump was a plant all along?

      My guess is probably not. Trump’s ego got in the way and he did not prep for the debate because he thinks he knows it all and does not need to prep.

        Oct 20, 2016 20:49 PM

        I believe that he is a plant but was never told so. Isn’t that the most productive kind?

          Oct 20, 2016 20:51 PM

          Btw, I believe that Bernie was also a plant but he definitely knew it.

          GH
          Oct 20, 2016 20:16 PM

          I’ve been wondering the same, Matthew. The Clinton campaign and the media could easily have colluded to make him the candidate, figuring he was unelectable enough that Hillary could beat him. Had the media wanted to torpedo Trump in the primaries, he never would have gotten the nomination, I believe.

            Oct 20, 2016 20:25 PM

            I am not sure if Bernie was a deliberate plant but he was a turncoat that betrayed his followers and played right into the democrats hands. Quitting the democrat party in July after pledging support for Hilarity says it all.

            Oct 20, 2016 20:54 PM

            Bernie is a ridiculous establishment player. He’s pro-war, pro-Fed, and does not appear to know much about anything. I’d say he was tapped for the job to satisfy the demand for an alternative lefty and to give the media someone to focus on while Hillary was MIA on the campaign trail. The part that probably did not go as planned was the hand-off of his supporters to Hillary. Who knew that even Bernie’s followers could be underestimated?

            Then there’s this:

            http://nypost.com/2015/06/05/bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy-essay-reveals-left-wing-hypocrisy/

            Just imagine how appalled all the lefties would pretend to be if Trump had penned that kind of stuff.

            Oct 20, 2016 20:56 PM

            As for Trump, I think he was asked to run by people who knew the real plan.

        DC
        Oct 22, 2016 22:40 AM

        Well, we’re finally mentioning something that I had “a feeling” about from the moment that Trump announced his decision to run. My intuition said he’s a shill for the criminal, yet that didn’t make sense at the time. At that point I was clueless about any of his dealings with the Clintons.

        Shortly after, the fact that he gave a huge sum of money to the Clinton Foundation became known. Anyone who has seen the documentaries from years ago on CF knows that people give large sums in return for a “favor” that the Clintons bring about for you — to wit, HUGE loans from banks that you never have to pay back, BUT you do have to give a commensurate “donation” to CF before it goes through. This is like dealing with the mafia. Once you’ve dealt with them, they own you, no matter what. This info seemed to give weight to my “feeling”.

        But, as time went by, I let myself become enamored of his message and decided the feeling was wrong. Now, over the past few months, I’ve come again to align with my original feeling.

        I believe he knew and accepted his roll from the get go, was obligated and/or would benefit, his ego loved the idea, and he never, ever expected to get anywhere near the nomination. It backfired on all of them. They misread the public sentiment and over estimated their position.

        Then, with ALL the things coming out about her activities that even a teenager could have used to put this to bed, including come backs during the debates that didn’t emerge, he manages in the past several months to act like more of a lunatic that ever. Again, “a feeling”, and the feeling was and is that he’s trying everything to throw the election. Of course, it has also crossed my mind that he’s in fear for his life and the safety of his family, and I’m not kidding when I say that. I certainly would be, what with the death count of those who have dared to get in the way of any Clinton.

        Then, as an interesting aside, I happen to be on friendly terms with a brilliant, and somewhat scary, deep-cover hacker. He told me last week that the fix is in, and that Trump was only candidate that the criminal could beat. Trump certainly seems to be making sure that’s the case. So, we’ll see.

        Sheesh. What a world, eh?!

        Btw, great comments on the board. And Matthew, you really got a roll going, lol, and I totally agree with you re: education. It’s another view point that I’ve banged on about for decades with seemingly no one listening.

    Oct 20, 2016 20:43 PM

    This country is doomed. The most powerful companies and people in the US (and the world) are living high on the hog due to the government and the Fed.

    There is no way this fascist system, which is nothing more than legalized looting, ends peacefully. Google “French Revolution” for details on how this proceeds.

      Oct 20, 2016 20:21 PM

      A Clinton win means……….
      ” More Power For The Few,
      Less Freedom For The Many”…………..Irishtony.

        Oct 20, 2016 20:25 PM

        A TRUMP win means……
        “A Huge Kick In The Bollocks For The Elite”……….Irishtony.

    Oct 20, 2016 20:59 PM

    I can’t stand either candidate. It is like choosing between gonorrhea and syphilis. Both of them are awful. Dump will get the world into a trade war but Hilarity will get everyone into a shooting war. Having said that, I can’t believe the media bias towards Hilarity. For the first time, I thought Dump won hands down but the media spin says he lost. I really don’t get how they can be so one sided. NY Times, Washington Journal, Washington Post, all the biggies seem to be on the take. Even the Economist which used to be an excellent magazine is now completely useless with biased editorials that ignore the big issues. Mainstream media is dead to me…time to cancel your subscriptions and short the stocks.

    Oct 20, 2016 20:06 PM

    A good example of biased reporting. Why aren’t the media talking about this?

    https://www.truthorfiction.com/hillary-clinton-freed-rapist-laughed/

    Oct 20, 2016 20:29 PM

    Watch the documentary on Netflix called 13th. it refers to the 13th amendment in the Constitution. …..galvanizing!

    Oct 20, 2016 20:52 PM

    I haven’t seen it, but do know ” titles of nobility ” and the replaced version. The 17th amendment should be removed! And a few others.

    Oct 20, 2016 20:07 PM
    Oct 20, 2016 20:42 PM

    Duterte’s Flip-Flop Into Bed With China Is a Disaster for the United States
    BY MAX BOOTOCTOBER 20, 2016

    With the Philippine president ditching Washington for Beijing, the contest to control the South China Sea just got a lot more complicated.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/10/20/rodrigo-dutertes-flip-flop-into-bed-with-china-is-a-disaster-for-the-united-states-south-china-sea/

      Oct 20, 2016 20:54 PM

      Philippines’ Duterte, in China, announces ‘separation’ from US
      Beijing (AFP) – 16 hours ago

      “Philippines’ President Rodrigo Duterte declared his “separation” from longstanding ally the United States in Beijing on Thursday, as he rebalances his country’s diplomacy towards China.

      Duterte is in China for a four-day trip seen as confirming his tilt away from Washington and towards Beijing’s sphere of influence — and its deep pockets.

      “I announce my separation from the United States,” he said to applause at a meeting in the Chinese capital.

      “America does not control our lives. Enough bullshit,” he added in a rambling speech that flipped between languages.

      “How can you be the most powerful industrial country when you owe China and you are not paying it?”

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/duterte-meets-xi-philippines-cozies-beijing-044808788.html

        GH
        Oct 21, 2016 21:29 AM

        Fascinating development. That turns up the temperature quite a bit.

        I would expect ‘untoward’ things to befall Duterte in the not-so-distant future or, if not, to the Philippines as a whole. How many fronts can the US fight on?

        Doug Casey came out with a new one comparing the US to Rome. These sorts of events sure look like cracks in the empire. The accelerated pace of everything today makes me wonder if baby boomers might witness the entire decline and fall in one lifetime.

          GH
          Oct 21, 2016 21:30 AM

          Though I guess you could date the decline and fall back to the civil war or the formation of the Federal Reserve.

          Oct 21, 2016 21:34 AM

          Good points GH.

          I would submit thought that many have used the analogy of the US as the new Rome long before Doug Casey was talking about it. They had the Roman Eagle and the US has the American Eagle, Rome had Capitoline Hill the Washington, DC has Capitol Hill.

          The government structures are so easy that 6th grade civics classes put this up on wiki:

          Similarities between the Roman Republic and U.S. government

          – both feature executive and legislative branches
          – both systems have checks and balances embedded
          – the head executives can be removed from power by legislators
          – the head executives have military responsibilities
          – both lead executives have veto power
          – the executives are charged with enforcing the laws
          – the legislative bodies make laws and control the budgets
          – written law codes exist in both societies
          – political divisions exist in both (Rome = patricians vs. plebeians / U.S. = citizens of a more liberal persuasion vs. citizens of a more conservative persuasion)
          – wealthy people are more likely to get elected
          – both place the authority of the state above that of the individual

          https://6thgradeciv.wikispaces.com/Comparing+the+Roman+Republic+and+US+Government

          Regardless, Rome got to big for it’s bridges and even though they did so many great things for the world and had so many innovations, they eventually got big, fat, and content and rotted from the inside. Sound familiar? 🙂

            Oct 21, 2016 21:36 AM

            too big for their “britches” [not bridges] (although when I drive in certain US cities they have gotten too big for their bridges too).

    Oct 21, 2016 21:25 AM

    ABC News May Be Involved in Faking Rallies for Hillary – Armstrong

    A lot of people are starting to focus on the video news feeds from ABC News. There appears to be video editing going on, and questions are arising as to what the mainstream media is involved in. Are these rallies being staged to prevent additional public events of her having seizures? Others are making arguments that they are also using doubles for Hillary. This is really becoming a very strange election. I still believe that the vote will be rigged, for there is far too much at stake in Washington to allow any outsider to interfere with their gravy train.

    Videos…https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/abc-news-maybe-involved-in-faking-rallies-for-hillary/

    Oct 21, 2016 21:26 AM

    Wiki leaks tweets …Heavy Armed Police gathering outside Ecuadorian Embassy …

      Oct 21, 2016 21:30 AM

      Obamy wets pants…Hilly looking for hole to jump in and Kerry wants to know if he can get his new yacht now.

    Oct 21, 2016 21:28 PM

    If you step further back and look at the bigger picture, this election just proof of how gynocentric our society is. Anyone criticizing a woman, namely Hillary, is automatically branded a misogynist or woman hater. Our society seems to have this unwritten rule than ALL women must be put on a pedestal and venerated. If Hillary were a man, she would of been forced out of the democratic race long ago as there are any number of issues that would sink ‘him’ (Benghazi, wiki leaks, clinton foundation, etc, etc). She’s playing the woman/victim card well, and most women are all to eager to vote her in simply because she has a vagina.