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Are extreme sentiment levels good reason to invest?

Cory
March 17, 2017

Happy St. Patrick’s Day everyone! Dana Lyons, Fund Manager in Chicago kicks off today with comments focused on US equity markets and longer term bond yields. We discuss the extreme bullish sentiment towards equities and how this should make investors wary. That said, Dana points out that extremes in sentiment levels are not typically great timing tools.

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    GH
    Mar 17, 2017 17:09 AM

    Off Topic:

    http://reason.com/archives/2017/03/01/the-bloated-military

    Courtesy of Mr. Moriarty’s 321gold

    Will Trump supporters hold him to his promise to drain the swamp?

      GH
      Mar 17, 2017 17:18 AM

      Three candidates for what will be Trump’s biggest failures:

      1. Deepening the Wall Street swamp.

      2. Continued criminal wars and military overspending.

      3. Failure to roll back police state.

        Mar 17, 2017 17:30 AM

        GH:

        You missed tossing HRC and crew in the slammer.

          Mar 17, 2017 17:32 AM

          and ditto

          GH
          Mar 17, 2017 17:15 AM

          Very true.

          And his inappropriate friendship with Israel.

        Mar 17, 2017 17:31 AM

        ditto

      Mar 17, 2017 17:22 AM

      Drain the swamp? Not a chance. Hey Gator, would a principled person ever call Hillary a terrific person?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5A02pNcGHs

        GH
        Mar 17, 2017 17:17 AM

        Good one. It would be hard to squeeze more dastardly lies into 53 seconds.

    CFS
    Mar 17, 2017 17:13 AM

    The power behind the Swamp…..Nomi Prins:

    https://youtu.be/ZbGtCmwy_fE?t=1023

    CFS
    Mar 17, 2017 17:25 AM

    The Federal Reserve needs to be eliminated.

      GH
      Mar 17, 2017 17:30 AM

      It may not be the root of all evil, but it’s close.

      Mar 17, 2017 17:34 AM

      ditto on End CENTRAL BANKING

    CFS
    Mar 17, 2017 17:52 AM

    Silicon Valley move over; here comes the Promised Land!

    JERUSALEM (AP) — As the world moves toward an era of self-driving cars, Israel is positioning itself to be the Detroit of the future.

    The country has emerged as a global leader in the fast-growing field of driverless cars, as illustrated by Intel’s more than $15 billion acquisition of Israeli firm Mobileye this week.

    Israel is now home to hundreds of startups that provide everything from censors to cybersecurity to data collection for autonomous vehicles, putting it alongside Silicon Valley at the forefront of an industry that many expect to take off over the next decade.

    “In the last 12 months, the global interest is rising more and more,” said Lior Zeno-Zamansky, executive director of EcoMotion, a nonprofit group that promotes the smart transportation sector in Israel. “Everyone is looking for the next Mobileye.”

    She said the Israeli smart transportation sector has attracted some $4 billion in investment over the past four years, roughly half of it driven by two industry leaders, Mobileye and Waze. During that time, the number of Israeli startups in the sector has grown from 87 in 2013 to over 500.

    Virtually every major auto maker has established a foothold in Israel, and senior executives visit the country regularly. General Motors has already opened a research center in Israel, while Renault and Daimler are opening facilities as well. Other companies, including Ford, Honda, Toyota, Subaru, BMW, Mazda, Hyundai, Volvo and Audi are all active in the Israeli market.

    CFS
    Mar 17, 2017 17:09 AM

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    CFS
    Mar 17, 2017 17:11 AM

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    Mar 17, 2017 17:02 AM

    Well being a SGN share holder now officially sucks. Are they one of the companies that lied about their future reserves?

    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SGN.V

      Mar 17, 2017 17:32 AM

      Dan, in light of how the whole sector has been lately, I don’t see anything unusual about SGN’s price action. I bought some yesterday and a tiny amount today but still have an order for more in place.

      I don’t see any reason to think that management has lied about anything at all.

    Mar 17, 2017 17:41 AM

    Volume says that there is still selling pressure on this POS.

      Mar 17, 2017 17:21 AM

      There has been selling pressure on a number of stocks recently, but it drops any lower I may add. Currently it is still above my cost basis, but if it gets down a few more pennies, I’ll be adding big time.

      Much of it was the missed exploration results and the legal settlement they put to bed. Honestly, I expected this price action back then and it worked out well that it waited until now to show up when the rest of the sector has been under pressure.

      I’m holding and continuing to position in a number of distressed gold and silver producers at present, but SGN is one that I’m just not that worried about.

      Mar 17, 2017 17:27 AM

      If you believe it is a POS, you should sell it. That’s what I would do.

    Mar 17, 2017 17:47 AM

    gdx:gld weekly ratio chart put in a black candle last week. I expect us to close below that candle body on a weekly basis sometime in the next few weeks. Black candles have always portended future weekness on this chart. It may take longer than a few weeks to play out, but I think the ratio is not done declining yet based on past history.

    I can’t stand black candles. They dirty up a chart similar to gaps IMO.

    Mar 17, 2017 17:56 AM

    Gold and silver still possibly setting up head and shoulders formations (right shoulders being built now). If the neckline on gold breaks, it portends at least a test of the December low.

      Mar 17, 2017 17:32 AM

      Thanks Spanky. I’ve been watching to see if we get a bonified breakout in the metals and miners, or if we are putting in that right shoulder as you mentioned.

      We’ll know in the next week or two, but if it is the right shoulder forming, then it is time to trim as more downside pressure would be on the menu.

        Mar 17, 2017 17:34 AM

        Don’t base any trades on my observations. I think the reason I make them is to see if Matthew can refute them and make me feel better. lol. Keep in mind I am holding onto silver miners for over a year and still holding.

          Mar 17, 2017 17:54 PM

          Spanky – your insights are appreciated, like all the good contributors here on the KER, and I always do my own due diligence and make my own decisions. That is all any of us can do. Nobody hits buy/sell except the person behind their own trading platform.

          I had seen others mention the H&S pattern in blog discussions, but when you mentioned it last week, it got me curious to pull up the chart to have a look and saw the left shoulder and Head (providing that this pattern plays out). I believe in giving credit where credit is due if someone points something out to the group.

          As I mentioned last week there are 2 paths forward:

          1) finish the right shoulder in the H&S pattern then a selloff after that likely through the summer doldrums.

          2) the rate hike fright, marked an intermediate “higher low” where the metals and miners will rally overall into May. Then the seasonal “sell in May and go away” would be the next resistance pattern.

          Currently, I’m not really that wowed with the response of the miners, even though the metals have shown some mild strength and resilience. It’s looking more likely that we are putting in that right shoulder, but until we see how the rest of March pans out, then we won’t know which pattern is playing out.

          For now it’s wait-n-see time and I’m just holding steady.

    Mar 17, 2017 17:08 AM

    GCC (commodities) looking extremely week on the daily chart. The weekly and monthly charts don’t inspire confidence either.

    I have a gut feeling commodities are going to break down on all time frames. Admittedly, $CRB (which is a weighted index–oil gets the biggest weighting) looks better than GCC on the weekly timeframe, but the giant black candles on the daily chart suggest, at best, choppy sideways action.

    Mar 17, 2017 17:19 AM

    I am going to go out on a limb and say many silver miners see new lows in the next couple of weeks, EXK, AG and HL to name a few. They are closing the week pathetically weak.

    Mar 17, 2017 17:24 AM

    The GDXJ:GDX chart is fine and GDXJ is worth 42% more GDX than it was at the Feb. 2016 low for the ratio:

    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=GDXJ%3AGDX&p=D&yr=1&mn=5&dy=0&id=p32695747875&a=513258265

    Mar 17, 2017 17:26 AM

    hi guys a little off topic what’s with theralase and first patient maybe something from roger would be encouraging

    Mar 17, 2017 17:02 PM

    Took another nice gain on at&t today and a bigger one on Wednesday. Just swing trading it as the market has not direction.

    Mar 17, 2017 17:06 PM

    Look at $indu:$crb. Wow.

    The $indu:$gold month chart is coming up to the declining 200 month MA. Honestly, based on the MACD it looks like it is going to blow through that MA.

    Anyone long commodities and not the Dow has gotten mollywhopped in real and nominal terms. If 1999 is any indicator, the Dow can go up another 30% vs commodities.

    Mar 17, 2017 17:16 PM

    I am staying in cash due to the high risk in this market and coming out to buy dips in at support in the regular market and trading out as soon as there is enough of a gain.

    Mar 17, 2017 17:27 PM

    $XJY coming up to the declining 100 dma. This could get very ugly for commodities and gold and silver in the next couple of weeks. The spike on the Fed was nothing but short covering.