Recapping The First Half Of 2017 – Gold, Markets, and Politics
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First a very happy Canada Day to all of our Canadian listeners and an early happy Independence Day for everyone in the US.
As we turn the corner into July it is a great time to look back on the first half of this year. On this weekend’s show we review the markets, gold, and investments in general all with a look ahead to what the trends are for the rest of the year.
We always love to hear your thoughts on the show so please reach out to me at Fleck[at]kereport.com.
- Segment 1: Rick Rule kicks off the show by recapping the metals complex in terms of gold and precious metals stocks in H1 2017.
- Segment 2: I continue my conversation with Rick Rule discussing the GDXJ rebalancing and previewing the upcoming Sprott Natural Resource Symposium taking place in Vancouver on July 25 – 28th. It is one of the best resource investing conferences I attend each year so I hope to see you there!
- Click here to visit the conference website and consider signing up if you are in Vancouver over July 25 – 28th.
- Segment 3: John Kaiser recaps his recent trip to the Midas Gold property and provides an overview of the sentiment towards precious metals stocks.
- Segment 4: I wrap up the first hour with Chris Temple and his overview of the first half of 2017 in terms of the investing climate in a broad sense combined with how politics is playing its roll.
- Segment 5: New Guest Martha Boneta Senior Vice President of Citizens for the Republic discusses property rights.
- Segment 6: Martha Boneta continues her discussion of property rights in the United States.
- Segment 7: Big Al and James Farley provide alternatives to the two versions of the ACA.
- Segment 8: We wrap up our discussion on the medical situation with James Farley.
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Thanks for being you.
I don’t think he could be anyone else.
When you are a god, you can be anything you want: boy, girl, young, old, black, white, human, chimpanzee. “Flick of the tongue. Law of the universe. Kinda cool.”
god or hindu
1Hard to say
Segment 1: If I understand Martin Armstrong correctly, he is actually calling for a movement of money into the US as interest rates rise and the world economy collapses. Thus a continued rise in both the Dow and the dollar might be expected.
I admit to be watching the USD with a mind to whether it is about to go on a 6 month or longer rally.
If that begins then I can indeed see money moving in the US markets to take advantage of that.
The Dollar may be shifting into third gear!
Our society has proven that when you are a progressive you can also be anything that you want.
So the TECKS, FCXs, Cliff Resources, CENXs, Steel companies, etc, will the stocks of choice in the coming weeks and the second half of the year?
Re Segments 5 & 6 background:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOXj-7UBNwc
Thanks CFS, I have asked Cory to post this important interview which, I noticed, was financed by Charles Koch.
San Francisco Awards $190,000 To Illegal Immigrant Over “Sanctuary City Violation”
The tax payers of San Francisco will soon be handing over $190,000 to an illegal immigrant, who had a warrant out for his arrest mind you, after he filed a lawsuit alleging that city police violated ‘sanctuary city ordinances’ by handing him over to immigration officials. No, you’ve not lost your mind, this is real life.
Glad to see it is the state…the lefty love pays
Markedtofuture,
This is an example of why KER Politics is so important to me. Thank you.
Ditto ,share the love…. 🙂
CNN Producer: American Voters “Are Stupid As Sh*t”
Project Veritas founder James O’Keefe has just capped off a week of destroying CNN’s last shred of credibility with a Friday morning release of another undercover encounter with an employee of the beleaguered network. Jimmy Carr, a hate-filled Associate Producer, said that virtually everyone he knows at the network – surprise – absolutely hates President Trump.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-30/cnn-producer-american-voters-are-stupid-shit
Markedtofuture,
And the beat goes on, my friend. Who will cross the finish line first and win the race?
France’s President Says He is TOO SMART to Communicate with the Fools Who Voted For Him
The French President Emmanuel Macron will break with the long-standing tradition of the President making a speech on Bastille Day to celebrate winning independence. He says his “complex thoughts” may prove too much for journalists. The truth is, his agenda is to surrender the independence of France and hand it to Brussels. He has no interest in celebrating Independence Day when he intends to end that independence. Just astonishing. We now have a president in France who is too intelligent to communicate with the scum beneath time for they are just stupid fools. Perhaps so – since they elected him.
Big Al, folks voted for something different. I would wager Trump crosses the line first. He gets a little help from his friends
I want you to know Markedtofuture that I do agree with you on this and, of course, other things.
Markedtofuture,
I rally have to wonder just why there is so much hate out there toward Trump. I am being very serious, by the way when I have that thought.
A thought, Trump is showing that many aspects of the progressive agenda is not shared by thinking Americans. Those previously in control thought that they had begun to achieve their agenda and Trump proved that enough Americans disagree that he became the president.
Paul Craig Roberts:
Al,
Martha Boneta is one of the best guests you’ve ever interviewed. Her story is that of thousands of Americans. Her views are spot-on, she truly stands for liberty, and her group ” citizens for the republic ” I certainly will support!
Bring her back and have her explain her group and some of their causes and projects.
You bet, Chartster
Trump Unloads In Angry Tweetstorm: Slams “Dumb As A Rock” Mika, “Garbage” CNN
One day after the NY Post issued its shortest ever editorial on the topic of “Trump’s tweets”, writing just three words: “Stop. Just Stop”…
I completely agree with the Post.
I beg to disagree Big Al. Since the news media is so slanted against Mr Trump, to the point of producing fake news, I sense that the President has no choice but to use Twitter, Facebook or similar techniques to reach the public directly.
I do wish he would, however, think a few minutes before tweeting from the hip.
Ditto….
Some day an adult will be elected President.
He could think before saying something for sure, but using social media is smart.
may change the way leaders relate to the public.
CFS, that is actually what I meant by my comment.
Al:
Great discussion with Mr. Farley. He sounds to me like an individual who looks for solutions to a problem while at the same time leaving partisan politics out of the equation. If only we had leadership, on both sides in Washington, with the same talents. Just to know there are people thinking in this vein…………gives me hope that we may yet find some answers!
Term limits
Thanks Silverdollar,
James and his family as our family both hail from the Portland area.
Gold And Silver – Why No Rally? Lies, Lies, And More Lies.
http://edgetraderplus.com/market-commentaries/gold-and-silver-why-no-rally-lies-lies-and-more-lies
Rare slip up by R Rule using the interest rate example of the eighties as rates rose 17 times to combat raging inflation and gold was bought as a hedge todays world rates are not rising to cut off inflation … bad comparison Rick.
Many of the speakers at the Sprott conference are pure sensationalists who have been predicting doom for the US$ for years blah.blah.blah yet good on Rick to correctly warn depending on the reason the FOMC raises rates further and the US economic reaction that follows the US$ could be very well bid….and all the doom pumpers regarding the $ will continue to be wrong for yet another year(s)
TB
PMs is how the “sprott” people make their living.
If I recall in “nobody knows anything” bob mentions everyone has an agenda.
I think I read that in his book, in any case its true, the “sprott” people want everyone to buy metal and PM shares.
I understand the real payoff for PMs is supposed to begin about 2020, the calculation for that was prior to crypto currencies tho.
If those folk truly believe their particular agendas, I think that is okay. I believe Rick because he puts his money where his mouth is and I do respect that because I have always done the same thing.
sorry Al just because a promotor has a big stake in xyz its not a reason to follow their opinion just look at how many lost their shirts following Eric Sprott into Timminco as it rose from a $1 to $35 with Sprott invested to the gills….the company was delisted….as it was a complete scam. I personally made $1 million profit Trading TIM from the chart not Sprotts opinion/promotion
How many times has Eric and Embry suggested gold was going to take off over at KWN these past 7 years? yet it hasn’t even come close to their projections nor has the US$ of US equity markets again for years!
Investors should google the predictions of the key speakers as their calls for years going back have been way off the mark but the sheeple still fall for the spin yet they so quickly jump all over those that produce facts and they are so quick to suggest tops all these years in US equities when they can’t even get their own pm sector calls correct….= nothing but buy side promoters regardless of having their money behind their opinion Al
yupper Bill
John Embry
Everybody likes John Embry – such a cool, healthy, aged surfer-looking Dude. But his calls of the past have been some of the worst – almost a contrarian indicator. Here are some:
February 4, 2013: Embry – Silver Market Is Nearing A Commercial Signal Failure (so close, it hasn’t happened in 37 months since the prediction)
January 22, 2013: Embry: Gold Super-Spike To Be Dwarfed By The Mania In Silver (and eventually the SGR relentlessly climbed from 50:1 to 80:1)
October 25, 2010: John Embry – Gold & Silver Commercial Signal Failure (almost 6 years – still waiting)
March 6, 2013: Embry – Massive Silver Short Positions To Force COMEX Default (goodness….sigh – no comment necessary)
March 11, 2013: Embry – I Believe Global Silver Stockpiles Are Now Exhausted (yes – existing on fumes the last 3 year – ohh my)
January 14, 2013: John Embry – Silver Will Soar Hundreds Of Dollars Higher (after he said this it dropped about 35%)
December 31, 2012: John Embry – The Price Of Silver Will Go Ballistic In 2013 (what do you suppose he means by ‘ballistic’? that it will be 1/3rd of it’s all time high?)
December 10, 2012: John Embry – This Is Why Silver Will Smash Through $100 (because the company you work for sells it?)
August 6, 2012: Embry: Expect Squeeze In Gold, Price Headed Multiples Higher (I hope not too many sold the house on this call expecting immediate returns – when he said it Gold was $1670/ounce high – almost 4 years later $1218)
Precious metal analyst doesnt have R Rule yet, but Mr Embry might be close enough.
yes b you did your homework producing facts not opinion, what the heck are you doing here?
The big difference between the armchair QB’s who are never wrong at these pm blog sites is they’ve never actually made a living as a professional trader as your only as good as your last call/trade and so many within the pm sector who speak to the sheeple have been wrong for years thats why no pro trader looks up on the web to see what Mr knowitall’s opinion is before trading their positions….ha ha think about it…..goog luck to you b as your obviously not drunk on the buy side promotional kool-aid soooo many are and don’t even know it
Hi Trader Bill,
I will say that Cory and I put our money where our mouth’s are. And, I can tell you at the age of 73 everything is okay at my house.
I didn’t hear a slip-up from Rick at all. He stated a fact when he said that interest rates and gold rose together during the seventies (not eighties). Many experts expected gold to be weak this time around as well. They were dead wrong and I pointed out exactly what Rick did on this site months and even years before that first hike in December, 2015.
The rate hike cycle of the last decade was also a very good time for gold.
As for your “doom pumpers”, I have to point out that the dollar is down 80% versus gold since the REAL peak in stocks and GDP 15+ years ago.
your most likely not old enough to understand the reasons behind the rate hike cycle of the late 70-80’s as it was inflation driven which is certainly not the case today and in fact we now have the US feds raising rates and looking to unwind along with the ECB and BOE suggesting rate hikes and the BOC turning hawkish which drove the CDN$ higher while oil declined recently so even with these Central banks all looking to raise rates gold is barely hanging on? not ripping higher with so mnay Hawks??
Two US hikes were in Dec a typical low tax loss selling buy zone for the pm sectors.
Even with the recent weaker US$ gold is weak
Every blog has the one guy who knows everything about everything and twists anyone who suggests the promoters here have been wrong for years regardless of the facts…so amateur!
Sprott always pumps the buy.buy.buy as the world is about to end….oh for 5-7-10 years now…lol
TB….just another gold promotion web site
It is Bill, but nothing wrong with that.
And money can be made trading shares and even the gold silver ratio.
On occasion, we get kinda manias too, and there is lottsa coin in those.
No rush like a gold rush.
I continue to believe 5% phyzz gold of an investment portfolio is astute, silver is another animal.
The “you’re probably not old enough” is one of the dumbest, Bill. Whatever the period in history you want to look at, the vast majority of those who were there don’t have a clue what really happened let alone what the causes were.
There’s been massive inflation of the money supply and it is only beginning to be priced into the market. You do know that price inflation is the result of inflation of the money supply, don’t you?
Inflation is not as low as you’ve been led to believe and gold is not as weak as your biases lead you to believe.
The action in the miners has been speaking to you for over a year but you obviously don’t speak the language.
Re: “Two US hikes were in Dec a typical low tax loss selling buy zone for the pm sectors.”
Your dismissal fails. Gold rose about 15% following the Dec. 2013 and Dec. 2015 lows but rose more than 31% following the rate hike and Dec. 2015 low.
And finally, when have I ever “twisted” anyone for suggesting that the promoters have been wrong for years. Most clearly were. Rick Rule happened to be one of the least gold pumping but that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I’m defending a specific correct statement of his while you’re getting emotional and trying to switch the conversation to generalities.
The coming price inflation is going to surprise you, Bill, and something tells me that you will be nowhere to be found when it does.
sooo typical assuming nobody else knows whats going on within their economic cycle except you of course, again how amateur! My wealth was built during the 80’s by being very aware of market trends.
The main driver of gold was the late Jan BOJ policy action by going negative rates but I knew you would not be aware of what caused the reaction into Aug 2016 very few do unless your a pro market player.
There is not a chance in hell that great gains in the pm sector will not have me onboard but it wont be based on any opinion as those fail the average investor just as history proves at every top or bottom.
Gold bulls hope the world falls apart so their warnings for years of a $ collapse or equity collapse comes true yet gold silver and the miners were crushed during the US financial crisis, thats fact! as the US $ ripped higher another huge mistake by the Sprott team funny how these experts were so clueless another fact well known by traders here in Toronto
Learn to trade off the charts men or you will be misguided by expert opinion as all one needs to do is look at the expert calls at major turning points against the chart action and you’ll agree or perhaps its too late your drunk on the promoters Kool-aid….Rickards within the FX community is know as a clown for his fx track record is pathetic!
Reality vs Spin…..enjoy your kool-aid
There you go with your dumb generalities again. Not only do I NOT hope for ‘the world to fall apart”, I know that it doesn’t need to fall apart.
Learn to value learning in general and you’ll be much better off.
Wow, I should proof read. The first line at 1:54 above should read: The “you’re probably not old enough” argument is one of the dumbest…
Since Rick Rule is a big part of Sprott and he was the one who openly admitted he was a seller of gold and gold stocks last august not sure I agree with your point..he also has stated that it’s early with copper so not hyping things there either!!!!
+1 Wolfster
Interesting moves in some cryptos in last 24 hours:
DubaiCoin up 3.27%
49 Numeraire up 3.03%
12 Bytecoin up 40.67%
40 PIVX up 31.05%
oops dubaicoin up 53.3% and Numeraire up 43%.
But some of the lesser cryptos moved even more in 24 hours:
CRTCoin CRT up 2243.41%
446 ChessCoin up 646.37%
The BTX crypto is now up 100% in 24 hours and over 9000% in 7 days and that was NOT straight after an ICO.
A Zero B.S. Guide To American Healthcare
http://www.cracked.com/blog/a-zero-b.s.-guide-to-american-healthcare/
Thanks for the link AJ
What a mis-named comment on healthcare!
A B.S. piece of propaganda, in my opinion.
Certainly a guide to nothing.
Speaking of property rights, you boys see this?
https://angrywoodchucksblog.com/2017/06/01/her-majesty-sandy-greyson-dallas-city-council-member-outraged-she-could-not-seize-land-from-lowly-plebeian-citizen-off-with-their-heads/
But it is just infuriating – we have people come down here saying, ‘Please don’t take my property’ and because they are just an ordinary person we take their property.
This is just how our government masters think. I am surprised the b*tch let that slip: the pure essence of government.
People must never forget that there is nothing voluntary about government. You can’t opt out. You can’t say, “No thank you, I don’t want to do business with you. ”
You must obey every order, law, ruling, edict, demand, regulation, stipulation and ordinance. In short, you must do everything a bureaucrat, politician or other gooberment employee says to the letter, no matter how ridiculous or unfair. And you must pay every tax, fee, levy, and assessment that they demand or you will be fined and penalized, and if you refuse to pay the fines and penalties, men with guns will come after you and put you in a cage with violent inmates. And if you resist you will be killed. That is the very essence of government.
Rothbard was 100% correct when he called the state a “gang of thieves writ large — the most immoral, grasping and unscrupulous individuals in any society”
https://www.lewrockwell.com/1970/01/murray-n-rothbard/a-band-of-thieves-writ-large/
People must never forget that there is nothing voluntary about government. You can’t opt out. You can’t say, “No thank you, I don’t want to do business with you. ”
You must obey every order, law, ruling, edict, demand, regulation, stipulation and ordinance. In short, you must do everything a bureaucrat, politician or other gooberment employee says to the letter, no matter how ridiculous or unfair. And you must pay every tax, fee, levy, and assessment that they demand or you will be fined and penalized, and if you refuse to pay the fines and penalties, men with guns will come after you and put you in a cage with violent inmates. And if you resist you will be killed. That is the very essence of government.
Is there anyone here who would deny this?
If not, why does anyone here advocate single payer or even the expansion of Medicare. Why advocate for an even bigger role for the gooberment in health care?
Happen to agree Eddie.
Investigative Al
What the heck is going on with sea navigation nowadays?
PARIS (AP) — An oil tanker and a large cargo ship collided Saturday in the Dover Strait between Britain and France but no casualties or pollution from the accident have been reported so far, French authorities say.
The local Maritime Prefecture said the collision between the two Honk Kong-flagged vessels took place overnight 20 miles (32 kilometers) off the northern French port of Dunkirk, in the British zone of the strait between the English Channel and the North Sea, one of the world’s busiest sea routes. It said none of the tanker’s 27 crew members or the 22 on the freighter was injured.
Most people can not use a map or compass
China Completes Construction Of New Missile Shelters On Disputed South China Sea Islands
Trump’s “up and down” relationship with China may be on the precipice of taking a sharp dive into the proverbial abyss. After frequently threatening to label China a “currency manipulator” on the campaign trail last year, Trump’s relationship with China’s President Xi Jinping took a decided turn for the better after a meeting at Mar-a-Lago in which China vowed to help address the “menace of North Korea” .
And, shortly after those efforts were declared dead, the Trump administration signed a $1.3 billion arms deal with Taiwan, a deal which China has “demanded” be cancelled immediately.
Meanwhile, as the Financial Times points out today, in the midst of all the international crises, China has made great strides building out and further militarizing their disputed islands in the South China Sea.
A volatile situation with significant potential problems down the road.
Meanwhile signs of things to come:
TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — New Jersey’s state government has shut down for the first time under Republican Gov. Chris Christie after he and the Democrat-led Legislature failed to reach an agreement on a budget…
The Latest: Maine government shuts down after impasse
Associated Press – Fri Jun 30, 11:43PM CDT
Will Illinois be next?
Of course the looming pensions crisis is waiting.
– Tax may explode as governments seek to bail out insolvent pension plans, but mathematically they CANNOT.
– Illinois, California, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Kentucky and eight other states are vulnerable.
Isn’t it funny to note they are all failed Democrat states. Is it they are incompetent at math or did the corrupt politicians give their cronies too much? They certainly did not undertax!
Don’t worry, CFS. California politicians are hell bent on establishing a single payer health care system in the state. I’m sure that will work out great but first they have to figure out how to steal the money…that appears to be a bit of a problem right about now.
My property taxes are already much more than my healthcare costs, as California supports many illegals plus costs of schooling non-english speakers.
Hell, in Commiefornia your taxes are even used to send illegal aliens to college.
Someone’s gotta pay for those degrees in transgender studies.
CFS, there are a number of potential major crises out there and, sad to say, this is only one of them.
In a last minute meeting Washington state did get going when many folks it would not.
“Maybe the only solution is a single payer solution.”
Can’t believe I heard Mr. Big Al Korelin said this. I guess I can check out now as I’ve heard it all. You boys enjoy your socialized medicine.
When you have people like Mr. Big Al Korelin and even Bob Moriarty saying we should have single payer I guess it’s inevitable.
Obamacare is a completely unsustainable steaming pile and it is doing its job which is to usher in single payer.
Ebolan:
I should try to qualify my belief that a single payer system would be better than what we have.
Like the political system in the US and the education system in the US and the judicial system in the US, the health care system is an utter disaster. That was true before Obamacare, it is more true after Obamacare and it will be even more so after the Republicans and Trump make the situation even worse.
The US has by far the most expensive medical care system in the world and the least effective for most users. We had relatives to visit us in Miami about 15 years ago, one fellow stuck his arm onto a sharp knife requiring a trip to the emergency room and a one stitch fix. It cost $800. One stitch. When I was a kid, the same visit would have been a $25 fix.
The US health care system is broken and while there are aspects of the British single payer system I disagree with and the French single payer system and the Canadian health care single payer system, they are all cheaper and more responsive to the needs of consumers than the US system.
IE, a single payer system would be better than what we have and I am the last guy on this board to be called a socialist. I am to the right of Attila the hun.
But first we need to remove all of the regulations allowing noncompetitive behavior in the health care system. It’s absurd and probably illegal to pay $50 for an aspirin.
Fifty years ago doctors were upper middle class. Today doctors feel they need a million dollar income. It’s all because we left the gold standard and people no longer understand what money is and isn’t, or what value is or isn’t. The US health care system doesn’t deliver fair value.
It seems that everything the government touches turns to sh*t eventually.
Health care is no exception. Medicaid, Medicare and Obamacare are all a mess.
I just find it hard to believe that a government that is as corrupt and captured by special interests as ours is going to improve upon the complete mess it has already made.
With single payer those special interests aren’t going away and could have even more influence as the government gets more control over what’s left of the health care market. Promoting an arsonist from fireman to captain of the fire station seems to be the route we are going to take.
I predict Ryancare or Trumpcare or whatever the Republicans come up with won’t fix anything and when we get the next Democrat in the White House we will find out how single payer will work in the US and my prediction is it will be a disaster. I hope I am wrong.
Bob M, Canada has a great healthcare system and it is much better now then when it was founded. The mainstream controlled media puts out a lot of nonsense about wait times and lineups, it is all nonsense. If I thought we weren’t getting value for our money I would be right there saying so. DT
Somebody has removed my post on how great the Canadian Healthcare system is, I am disappointed. It shows you that Trump is besieged everywhere.
Ebolan, why shouldnt Al want socialism? We are moving to total communism.
The only person that has a hope of stopping it is Putin.
Al was saying the other day he supports Israel, support of Israel is support of communism.
The issue is a person has to research a bit to find out why thats the case and their not going to, especially christians.
No offence intended to anyone, thats just human.
We think in herds.
Another poont, people WANT to go cashless, they WANT digital currency, they could care less (understand or not) that it means the loss of freedom and they are going to be surveilled in everything they do.
People WANT other people making decisions for them. Thinking is hard.
The only questions to PM investors is whats the value of PM? and how much should a person own in cryptos?
All I can say is I don’t understand Mr. Big Al Korelin and a lot of the people here. But then again, I don’t understand most Americans or most other people for that matter.
Anyway, one interview Mr. Big Al Korelin is advocating property rights saying it is the bedrock of freedom. Then an interview later he’s saying the government should completely take over health care. (That is what a single payer system would do.)
Am I the only one who perceives an inconsistency here?
Purely and simply Eddy, our health care system stinks.
What I am saying is that if America wants universal health care, and it seems to then the only way to make it financially viable is to have a senior payer system.
I am not talking about anything at all other than a viable method of finance.
That would be lazy ignorant Christians..
Wrong posting area..sorry
I understand Jerry, ignorant obviously, but ya dont gotta be christian for that, same with lazy.
The reason I say christians is because they seem to support Israel blindly, they support Israel because they support jews and the reason for that is they follow what jews wrote.
Reminds me of putting prices for my products in a magazine I published.
Was so funny, but people paid whatever I printed.
People believe as they are told.
Even when we wrote we made up the prices and they were meaningless..they bought more, go figure.
I would guarantee you, the lazy ignorant do not study non read scripture.
If they knew scripture,…they would know the Jews in the Old Testament have been set aside.
Non to nor
Are those that do not study history bound to repeat it?
We are not close yet to the crash, but a look at 1929 is worth it:
History does seem to rhyme.
Comment was for b..
On vacation and working off a cheap phone
Not one of those Obama phones I hope! 🙂
‘Obamaphone’ program stashes $9 billion in private bank accounts
The Government Accountability Office has issued a report showing that the Lifeline Program to issue phones to qualified poor persons is rife with fraud and abuse. Phones were regularly issued to unqualified persons during the last administration and an incredible $9 billion has been discovered to have been deposited to private bank accounts.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/29/obamaphone-program-riddled-fraud-audit/
No freaking Obamy phone…. just cheap … 🙂
Obamy robbed the American people blind ,with his vacations….
Talking about phones, …I saw a pay phone at a rest stop in Florida ,…I haven’t seen one of those in years……Obamy plan gone wrong…
If I start seeing more phones along the interstate I may junk this cheap phone,…but, how will Google keep track of me ….. 🙂
Of course Obama had nothing to do with the Lifeline free cell phones. It really started under Bush. I even had one for a couple of years since I was low income.
Obamy Bush Clinton same snake
Btw…..hope all is well JMiller
Of course Obama had nothing to do with the Lifeline free cell phones.
Say what? Under his watch the program was riddled with fraud and corruption.
All is well with me Jerry. And yes, they are all snakes.
Ebolan,
I meant that Obama was not the one to start the free cell phone program so why do people call it Obama phone? Obama had nothing directly to do with the Lifeline free cell phones.
OK, so how about we call them government phones but we make Obama responsible for the fraud and corruption that took place with that program under his watch? And why should anyone be forced to pay for someone else’s phone service?
Ebolan,
Let me say I have no problem with people receiving different forms of welfare under certain circumstances and paying a small amount towards it. And that would probably include phone service. Now of course I would be much more strict about who gets welfare than the government. I knew too many people trying to find ways to get welfare when they really did not need it.
As far as myself, after I lost my job back in 2009 I collected unemployment for over a year while working part-time. I did qualify for food stamps but I decided not to apply since I did not need it. Someone however told me about getting a free cell phone. Since I had a landline phone and did not make many calls any way I saw no real need to get a cell phone. But then I thought, what happens if I witness an accident in which someone was seriously hurt or I needed to call 911 for some other kind of emergency. Having a cell phone might save someone’s life. May be even my own. So it made sense to get one. Once I got full-time employment and I was no longer eligible I immediately contact SafeLink and informed them I no longer qualify. I had heard how expensive cell phone plans were so I was going to forget about having a cell phone but then I found out about TracFone which would cost only about $100 a year. I recommend everyone should have a cell phone for the reasons that I stated.
I am sorry to hear about your misfortune. I am not against helping people. Everyone depends upon the help of others at some point in their life. No one is an island as the saying goes…but the problem is government.
Even if all these programs start with the best of intentions they become monsters and one day you wake up and your gooberment is $20 trillion in debt and has hundreds of trillions of unfunded liabilities. And the problem grows worse by the day. At some point the whole thing will implode and take down many innocent people.
Regarding cell phone service, if all you are interested in is making emergency calls I believe you can do that without having to pay for cell phone service. See
In order for the phone to call 911, it has to have a working signal. It does not have to have a contract with a carrier (meaning you can’t call any other number and can’t receive calls).
https://www.verywell.com/can-my-old-defunct-cell-phone-still-call-911-1298359
And here is an article from earlier this year about getting free cell phone service without any gooberment welfare…
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/02/david-hathaway/get-free-cell-phone-service/
Ebolan,
I know were you are coming from and I think we pretty much agree. I also found out a number of years ago that you can use an old cell phone that had a working signal to make 911 calls only and thought about just doing that instead of getting a cell phone plan. However there might be an emergency where you need to be contacted family members, say if your mother or father were in a serious accident. Both my parents are elderly and not in the best of health so I would want to have a cell phone so I can be contacted if I am away from home. Thanks.
Isn’t Socialism great!
As tens of thousands cross the border of Venezuela into colombia every day just to find basic food.
Any they are the lucky ones who did not have their savings destroyed by their government.
Single payer health care is working out great there, isn’t it? No matter how bad things get the answer is always more power for the government.
Venesuala happened because of american intervention.
Not to say it wouldnt have anyway.
Canada is socialist, just a matter of time before it happens here too I would imagine.
As a vassal tho we shouldnt be attacked to soon tho.
Morning CFS,
The grandkids just left for Seattle and I am back with all of you fascinating people. I find it interesting that we all really basically agree once we make ourselves clear on issues.
I did notice that there were and probably still are some erroneous understandings about and why I feel the way that I do about single payer and Israel. I hope that is now clear to all. (Ebolan!)
Eddy, I don’t think that was its sole purpose.
The bottom line is that if society decides all should have some type of medical care It appears to me that the businesses have to be taken out of the equation. The only outcomes seem to be no universal health care; an abysmal national balance sheet; or, single payer.
Am I missing something?
Under Obamacare more people have insurance. Then why did mortality rates go up?
Running The Numbers On Mortality Rates Suggests Obamacare Could Be Killing People
Everything the government touches turns to sh*t eventually.
Numbers are numbers, Eddy, and not being aware of the complete picture I simply cannot agree or disagree.
Investigative Al
Common b, our have proven over and over that you are smarter than that.
I think that a single payer system is the only economic way that universal health care can be financed. Show me another way, b!
Regarding Israel, I simply don’t support stupid killing of people. Isis and most of the extreme Muslims don’t seem to give a damn how they kill others. They seem to be sexually aroused by graphic and inhumane methods of killing. How can any rational human being support that?
Remember who put the Jews in the position that they have been in since 1949?
‘Israel doing everything to prevent Syria from prevailing against terrorists’
“As the possibility approaches of the Syrian government and their allies prevailing in the conflict, Israel is interceding to do everything they can to prevent that,” Sterling concluded.
“…… evidence presented that Israeli armed forces and, indeed, medics were bringing these terrorists who are opposing the Syrian government into Israel and giving them medical treatment, and then sending them back. Last month [it was reported] that the Israeli government is involved in financing these rebel groups,”
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/395002-syria-israel-military-terrorism/
Israeli Secret Intelligence Service = isis
Who put the Jews in the position?
The Balfour Declaration was a single paragraph in a letter dated 2 November 1917 from the United Kingdom’s Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.
That was agreed to for having the americans enter the first world war.
Rabbit hole stuff I guess.
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Even the gov’t agencies are bypassing the rulers
Mr. Big Al Korelin, please get some better guests if you are going to talk about health care again.
Your guest said, “People are contributing to Medicare.” This is not true at all. People do not contribute to Medicare. They have the money taken from them and if they try to withhold that confiscation of their money, men with guns will come to take them away to prison and if they resist they will be killed. How is this a contribution?
Medicare is a ponzi scheme run by corrupt politicians and bureaucrats. Your guest wants to continue this and even expand it.
Please, if you are going to talk about health care again get someone from Mises or some other organization that does not advocate theft.
Ebo…..I think OWL,should interview you.. at least give you 5 mins…
At least you are not getting a gov’t check
Thanks, Jerry. I don’t know, though. It seems like when I try to explain this to people they just get pissed off. Or if not, they understand and even agree but then 5 minutes later say something that completely contradicts everything I said.
I remember seeing a recent interview with Jeff Deist. He said that despite the explosion of interest in liberty (for example, Ron Paul’s impact, the huge increase in Web traffic for sites like Mises, etc.), the expansion of government and the increase in government power and control over our lives and money is inexorable.
I guess all the brainwashing people get starting around age 5 in the gooberment schools has done its job. People can’t imagine living without the state controlling their lives and they don’t even realize it.
If they get pissed off, they must have their hand in the cookie jar….
Maybe Mr. Big Al Korelin interview Matthew and he could explain all this.
Mr. Big Al Korelin quoted Matthew at Cambrige House so I think he would listen to Matthew.
Ebolan, I think Al should get Jeff or someone else from the Mises Institute on the show. I’m sure that any one of them would be much more interesting.
I have a problem with institutions… , 🙂
Even ones that speak truth to power? 😮
Good one…. 😉
Maybe you and Matthew, could co author an article…..
There has been a standing offer for years to all of you that you are welcome on the Show anytime.
How about you Mr. Ebolan? Reply to my email with a telephone number and let’s talk.
I and, I am sure all of our familly, would love to hear from you.
We would initially talk completely “off the record” and then do an interview.
Again, I respectfully disagree Eddy. Part of my social security is taken for my medicare and to me that is my own money that is paying for my medicare.
That is a simple fact and not an opinion.
I have no problem for my or Kathy’s medicare being paid for from our social security. One of the reasons is that our medical insurance has saved my and Kathy’s livife during th past two and one half years.
Medicare is just another tax and taxation is theft.
Please listen to this podcast if you don’t believe or understand that…
https://mises.org/multimedia/mp3/audiobooks/rothbard/EthicsofLiberty/3-22.mp3
That podcast is part of the series The State versus Liberty which is part of The Ethics of Liberty.
Not trying to be rude, but if I am being completely honest I think some people here are confused about subjects such as the free market (or even the definition of a free market), taxation, government and liberty. There certainly seems to be confusion regarding property rights.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/1970/01/murray-n-rothbard/a-band-of-thieves-writ-large/
You are absolutely correct and that confusion infects 90% of the so-called right, as well.
We need to go back …when doctors made house calls……for $5….
I personally choose not to go back to less that 10 grand a year in salary.
Al, 10 grand fifty years ago was worth 285 ounces of gold ($350,000 today).
Big Owl under estimated his worth……… 🙂
Jerry, $5 was worth one-seventh of an ounce of gold fifty years ago ($175 today).
That is funny……I was making $33 wk. on my paper route …..at age 10 1/2, I had more money than I knew what to do with……… :)……. So, I was making $1200 wk comparison.
Plus, I did not have to live in a basement……. 🙂
That is serious money for a paperboy in the 1950s! 😮
By Stephen Dinan – The Washington Times – Monday, February 27, 2017
The government flagged more than 1.6 million foreign visitors for overstaying their visas from 2013 to 2015, but deportation agents said they fell too low on President Obama’s list of priorities to bother targeting for removal, according to a watchdog report released Monday.
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the deportation agency, concluded that it would cost too much to pursue the overstays, the Government Accountability Office said. ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations branch instead chose to focus on illegal immigrants who jumped the border and who amassed serious criminal records — the priorities Mr. Obama laid out.
Obamy sure over stayed his welcome.
Meanwhile expect a new call for gun control:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no3M1vhjhd0
Red Lake Gold:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMRC3TnHKh4
Older but now on youtube.
Gold bugs are absolutely are nuts and got it all wrong..BM lol “A flood of comments from central banks this week has been signalling that the era of easy money is coming to an end. Of course, the nonsense spouted out by the Gold Promoters that hyperinflation was coming has left 10 years of continually wrong forecasts, yet the pretend analysts have done far more damage to the marketplace that is only now revealing itself. Note carefully, that gold has declined WITH the dollar. Something else the promoters said would never happen.
Gold had soared to reach record highs at $1,920.30 an ounce back in 2011 on the propaganda of hyperinflation coming because of Quantitative Easing (QE). Now with QE coming to an end, why buy gold? We see the same nonsense setting the euro up ripe for the slaughter. The prospect of QE ending at the European Central Bank (ECB) has been sending the euro up, yet once again to the delusion that all will be reversed and higher interest rates will save the Euro.”
Don’t negate the possibility that Gold and the Dollar are rising together, although in a stagger step formulation. This is a great time for traders and Gold investors, who can prune at trading range tops and accumulate at bottoms — as Doc advises.
JDST or DUST are good short term vehicles.
Yes!
Oil stocks are taking a beating and I think great buy opp in time!.
“Dollar Reversal? – It may be shifting into 3rd!”
http://www.trendlinemagic.com/2017/07/dollar-reversal.html
“…increasing FOMC support and liberal wishes for Trump administration destruction.”
There will be a bounce eventually but I think this move down has a long ways to go longer term. The buck hasn’t been this weak since at least 2011.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24USD&p=W&yr=9&mn=9&dy=0&id=p76620199151&a=532478532
Maybe the whole Neo-Feudal Casino Gulag Plantation Fractured Reserve Debt Based economic outhouse is about to burn to the gound…you boys think you’ll get single payer gooberment health care? It’ll be more like single prayer…
Global debt levels have surged to a record $217 trillion in the first quarter of the year…Never before in human history has our world been so saturated with debt…According to the Congressional Budget Office, the federal government will add more than a trillion dollars to the national debt once again in 2018…Unless current laws are changed, federal individual income tax collections will increase by 9.5 percent in fiscal 2018, which begins on Oct. 1, according to data released today by the Congressional Budget Office.At the same time, however, the federal debt will increase by more than $1 trillion.
There’s more but it is so disgusting I couldn’t keep reading. And the debt it mentions does not include all the unfunded liabilities. When will people wake up and realize that Rothbard was right? Gooberment is nothing but a giant criminal enterprise.
Debt is enslavement…..many have not figured that out ,yet
You are right, Jerry. Our rulers are racking up ruinous debt and most people are clueless.
Here’s an old one from Higgs. I wonder what became of him…last I heard he moved to Mexico…at least the cat food there is cheap…
What’s a Geezer to Do?
http://blog.independent.org/2012/08/21/whats-a-geezer-to-do/
Good post…
Good reason for not having a Central -Fed Bank
I tell you Jerry, sometimes I wonder what everything is coming to….
Sick revellers at Oxford toff bash ‘romped with a goat’ during debauched uni party
The grotesque act was said to have happened at the secret summer ball organised by the Piers Gaveston Society
But maybe the male Oxford students could give birth to their goat babies if they want…
Wombs for men: Astonishing prospect as fertility doctors back operations on NHS so transgender women born as boys can have babies
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4657830/transgender-women-born-boys-babies-NHS-doctors.html
Tourists, locals buy Nevada’s legal recreational marijuana
By REGINA GARCIA CANO and JOHN LOCHER – Associated Press – 9 minutes ago
LAS VEGAS (AP) — Cheers and long lines of tourists and locals alike greeted the first day of sales of recreational marijuana on Saturday as Nevada became the fifth state with stores selling pot.
Mr. CFS,
Getting back to your home state and taxes for a second…watch what happens in November. Currently, the people in Commiefornia are paying about a dollar more a gallon for gas than most of the country and the large tax increases the Demorats and one traitorous Republoclown (this vermin: “Republican Backed Jerry Brown’s Gas Tax for $400 Million Pork Project” http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/04/09/report-jerry-browns-gas-tax-cost-1-billion-side-deals/ (there’s a picture in that article of him scheming with his Demorat buddy)) crammed down the taxpayers throats.
That tax increase is over 12 cents a gallon and starts November 1. Also, the vehicle registration tax goes up then, too. An even bigger story is what they did to the cost of diesel. It goes up a whopping 20 cents a gallon plus an additional 4 percent on the special diesel sales tax. Mind you, these are not the only California taxes on gas and diesel. For instance state and local sales tax is charged on every gallon on top of all the other taxes and that is a minimum of 7.25% and in some areas of the state around 10%.
But it gets even worse. In 2019 the gas tax will go up another 7 cents a gallon. Also, after 2017 the gas, diesel and car registration tax go up automatically every year as they are indexed to inflation.
What do you think these tax increases are going to do to the cost of everything in Commiefornia? Anyway, it kicks off Nov 1 of this year.
However there is some good new.
An effort is underway to repeal the Demorat theft in the Nov 2018 election.
And you can be apart of this effort if you wish.
You can go here for more info https://nocagastax.com/
Also, there is an effort to recall one Demorat politican…maybe more at some point.
Mind you, these are not the only California taxes on gas and diesel. For instance state and local sales tax is charged on every gallon on top of all the other taxes and that is a minimum of 7.25% and in some areas of the state around 10%.
Forgot to mention the bogus global warming carbon tax. The state gooberment forces refiners and all sorts of other businesses to buy carbon credits and that adds another 15 cents to the cost of a gallon of gas. Yet no one mentions it or even considers it a tax. The money goes into a slush fund for corrupt politicians.
California state will implode. The question is when.
Right now it is being kept alive by silicon valley and a dying movie industry.
If venture money dries up for silicon valley, CA might just as well sink into the Pacific Ocean. Water stupidity is already hitting farmers…..but the greenies would rather keep a few fish alive than allow almond trees to grow, and already produce production is dropping…….watch for food price hikes.
Where will you be when it implodes?
California May Place ‘Third Gender’ Option on State Documents (Updated).
Interestingly enough kind of the same think is going on up here in Whatcom County.
in my comment above I am not referring to “third gender opinion” only to taxes. By the way what in God’s name is “third gender opinion.”?
Those are pretty horrendous tax increases, Eddy
There is a bright spot in the future of mankind if we live long enough for it to happen. Artificial Intelligence will make our species smarter so that we can understand the forces of evil that exist and how to deal with them. We must learn how to stop wars and how to cooperate not only with other nations on our own planet but also with extra terrestrial life that may want to destroy us, if we get the chance to colonize outer space.
This battle Trump is having with the media is pure evil, it’s all about self serving parties trying to dominate our species. If we can’t see evil where it exists and it is everywhere; for example take North Korea, they are bullying The US with nuclear weapons but where did they learn that from. We will find that our species is not smart enough to multiply and live in the future. DT
“Artificial Intelligence will make our species smarter …” — Who programs this golem?
Interesting comment, Mr. Tracy.
Gestapo is Back: German Homes Raided Over Facebook Post.
With the internet, the government can simply hear and see for themselves what thought crimes are being committed, especially when people decide to post them on social media. But why shouldn’t people be allowed to be offensive on social media? Sometimes only by poking and prodding do we get to the crux of an issue. There is a place in society for all types of discourse, and when the government gets to define what constitutes “hate speech” they will simply label their enemies’ language as such.
By “right wing extremist” what German authorities really mean is anyone who questions the immigration policies of the Europe, or thinks differently than the general population. Literally simply insulting someone, or talking trash can make you liable for five years in prison in Germany. According to section 130 of their criminal code:
(1) Whoever, in a manner that is capable of disturbing the public peace:
incites hatred against segments of the population or calls for violent or arbitrary measures against them……..
Gestapo? … more like the NKVD.
The German media is blaming rapes on Facebook Incitement against immigrants.
What kind of insanity is that?
Great interview about the criminal injustice system and why government policing is a failure and free market solutions.
https://mises.org/library/edward-stringham-radically-rethinking-police
Federal level police enforcement has been around, to some extent, for a long time.
meanwhile in the Middle East:
http://dcs.megaphone.fm/PNP5157048487.mp3?key=04dc354c055012de8e27d031b3b2e744
The White House has been required to deliver a report to Congress listing the title and salary of every White House Office employee.
Here is the most recent list:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/disclosures/07012017-report-final.pdf
Just released today.
It shows Trump as more generous than Obama, especially to female staff.
Thanks Professor, kind of interesting.
The folly of government and the answers to be found in the free market.
https://mises.org/library/hans-hermann-hoppe-world-without-theft
Totally agree that employers should not be in the healthcare business. Less than half of all americans are full-time employed. It is actually only about a third at 125 million. Plus there are many of these full-time employed who are contract employees or independent contractors who don’t get insurance from their employers. Another issue: Why are all the medical orgainization, associations and groups against the ACA?
Certainly not all Mr. Moder
Sir Alan Greenspan speaks……
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esR87fzXH0E
Mises Weekends:
Ron Paul, Jeff Deist…..Making money great again:
Off Topic:
https://www.clickorlando.com/news/national/nasa-unveils-plan-to-test-asteroid-defense-technique
CFS Comment: It is about time.
If you don’t think it important, look up the work of Graham Hancock; as there is increasing evidence that a fairly sophisticated civilization was about erased from the face of the earth about 12,000 years ago by asteroid impact, with the extinction of the woolly mammoth and many North American large mammals.
The Dinosaur extinction event was much further back in history, of course, but again due to an asteroid strike in the Gulf of Mexico.
Mass extinctions
1 Holocene extinction Present
2 Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event 65 million years ago
3 Triassic–Jurassic extinction event 199 million to 214 million years ago
4 Permian–Triassic extinction event 251 million years ago
5 Late Devonian extinction 364 million years ago
6 Ordovician–Silurian extinction events 439 million years ago
We are in one now
Study: 6th mass extinction already underway — and we’re the cause
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/…mass-extinction…/29028887/
Jun 20, 2015 – The Earth’s sixth mass extinction is already underway — and humans are the driving force behind it, according to a new study. “Recent extinction rates are unprecedented in human history and highly unusual in Earth’s history,” according to a study published Friday in the journal Science Advances.
Mass extinction events appear to have several possible causes. For the older events the causes are not known. (Indeed the length of time over which the extinction occurs sometime is long, but solar particle radiation and meteor strikes can cause rapid extinction.)
Possible causes are:
Abnormal solar radiation/coronal ejection.
Shift of earth’s axis or magnetic field
Major volcanic eruptions
Meteor or comet strikes
The fact that earth has a magnetic shield is very important for life.
Human travel to Mars is not thought possible at this time because of lack of shielding.
Even establishing a station on the moon would require it to be underground.
You don’t think a wall is needed?
Civil Society is breaking down:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/seventeen-wounded-us-nightclub-shootup-130820432.html
And this is one of perhaps thousands of incidents!
Jeff Zucker Should Stand Trial for Conspiring Against the United States For Corporate Profits – Enough is enough!
Project Veritas, which CNN and others try bad mouthing, has caught CNN’s Supervising Producer admitting (1) they are on a witch-hunt against Trump, and (2) they constantly bash Trump with Russia putting the entire world at risk of war simply to make money. They treat their viewer as idiots who lack enough intelligence to distinguish the truth from propaganda. CNN has become the source for misrepresenting implicitly that Trump won only with Putin’s help.
It will be interesting to see if, in the end, CNN is still standing!
When Nixon took us off the gold standard, it started a Ponzi scheme in everything. The health care system is a Ponzi scheme.
The parasite that owns the central banks, owns the insurance companies, owns big pharma, and pays huge fees to law makers to to shut up, and keep the scheme going!
Health care was not for profit before 1973. And it needs to go back to not-for-profit.
https://healthcare.uslegal.com/managed-care-and-hmos/the-hmo-act-of-1973/
It is worse than that. Healthcare is 17% of the GDP.
Could imagine putting those in charge of running the postal service in charge of running the health system and NOT allowing the equivalent of Fedex and UPS?
The current healthcare system has many problems, but has any government ever efficiently run anything?
Post office, FEDex, UPS…..all behind on pension funding……
Fist of truth. Great commercial.
As many have said before:
Democracy is is like two wolves and a sheep voting what’s for dinner.
But Freedom is a well-armed sheep.
X22 report ( is the hammer going to drop? )
https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=UUB1o7_gbFp2PLsamWxFenBg&v=1KlRy3Qump8
The gold-silver ratio is looking increasingly bearish and that’s good news for the whole sector:
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=GLD%3ASLV&p=D&yr=1&mn=1&dy=13&id=p40554560081&a=521820217
Delaware passed law legalizing BLOCKCHAIN…..zerohedge………
Litecoin……hot new crypto this week……bixweir…….
Litecoin is over 5 years old, but having smaller blocks and more coins, it is faster than bitcoin and gaining in popularity.
The failure of BTC to fork has allowed slowness to annoy its protagonists, and use litecoin instead.
In my onion Litecoin is not that much better…..only a factor of 4.
The launch date of Litecoin was Oct 9, 2011
mining for coins is a slow process……..
Litecoin will be used for smaller transactions……..according to Bix Weir
this is just the beginning…….with transactions being easily performed on a phone in lieu of having to transact in silver coin……..
Thinking of Zuckerbergs new internet drone (see zerohedge)….which will allow for the entire earth to connect to the internet via iphone technology along the silk road……just ootb………
Some of these cryptocoins are going to stick…..just a matter of time, ….avoiding the scam system of the CEntral banksters……..
Need for SPEED in the transaction…..will be facilitated by LITECOIN…..
opinion not onion
**DRUDGE POLL** SHOULD PRESIDENT TRUMP USE SOCIALS MEDIA?
TWEET 76.7% (297,653 votes)
DELETE 23.3% (90,423 votes)
Total Votes: 388,076
It is a NEW WORLD……….social media has changed…..
Associated Press – 1 hour ago
HONG KONG (AP) — Global investor access to China’s financial markets is widening further with the launch of a bond trading link with Hong Kong.
Officials banged a gong and clinked glasses of champagne on Monday morning as they officially kicked off trading on the long awaited Bond Connect link.
It’s the latest channel to link up financial markets in Hong Kong, a global financial center, and mainland China, where authorities are gradually lowering restrictions for overseas investors.
Initially, investors can get “northbound” access via Hong Kong financial institutions to mainland China’s interbank bond market, the world’s third largest at $9.4 trillion in value.
Officials say they’re still exploring “southbound” access for mainland investors.
In 2014, Hong Kong launched a stock trading link launched with Shanghai, followed by one last year with Shenzhen.
Hey Ex.Regarding zinc.Saw this article about potential union strike in Peru which is 3rd largest zinc producing country set for July 16.Would make zinc shortage even bigger obviously.
http://www.bnamericas.com/en/news/mining/perus-mining-strike-may-spread-to-other-industries
Thanks Wolfster. The fundamentals for Zinc are getting stronger and stronger. The recent run up in both Zinc and Lead prices are part of a challenge that will take some time to address and get new supply on the market to replace the handful of huge mines that have closed over the last 3 years. It would seem both Lead and Zinc prices over $1 will be sustainable for some time.
Gold Secondary Support broken. Dollar may have bottomed. More later.
“Dollar Reversal?” – http://www.trendlinemagic.com/2017/07/dollar-reversal.html
Paper rigging at it’s best………
GOLDMAN sees BITCOIN soaring to $3915 on next breakout………zerohedge
Illinois seeking a 33% increase in taxes…..income, and corporate tax hike….zerohedge
Thanks for the show.