More talk about the situation in Hong Kong.


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  1. On August 14, 2019 at 11:57 am,
    b says:

    Does it work with Trump was simply an attempt to show things are really not that dif for dif governments.

    You missed my first point tho, 24 Yellow Vests have lost eyes in violent french protests.

    Hong Kong phooey! Would you like any hypocrisy with that?

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/466396-hong-kong-british-hypocrisy/

    Not so dif is it?

    Whats dif is we ignore French protests and focus on Chinese protests.
    Why is that?
    Could it be that the mic is looking for war?

    Wanna stop Chinese exports to solve the protests?
    Why dont we boycott France to solve the French protests?

    The west needs to keep their nose outta HK, its Chinese territory.

    The Chinese have denied ports to american vessels and they now contemplate selling all their U.S. treasuries.
    That could cause a bit of a kafuffle.

    • On August 14, 2019 at 7:16 pm,
      Al B Korelin says:

      b, I agree with all of your comment. It all makes a bit of sense.

  2. On August 14, 2019 at 12:24 pm,
    b says:

    Jims comment about Putin controlling journalists.
    The way Assange is treated by us, is kind of another example of govs not being that dif.

    If a person were to read David Irvings books, you would see the point he makes, which is why he worked so hard to get the truth out.
    Leaders, no matter what the gov, are not dif. they are all basically the same.

    One gov. pointing the finger at another is the pot calling the kettle black.
    That used to be an expression, no idea if it still is. 😉

    • On August 14, 2019 at 7:21 pm,
      Al B Korelin says:

      It is an expression that makes sense still. The difference is that China is now a super power while France could be classified as being somewhat irrelevant.

      I do realize that the average Frenchman would strongly disagree. It’s a strange world we live in Master Jack’!

  3. On August 14, 2019 at 12:46 pm,
    cfs says:

    I have ignorance in high-rise urban warfare.
    I wonder how effective are gallon jugs of Molotov cocktails dropped from 10 stories up on to the top of armed vehicles ?
    Is not air-intake on the top of vehicles.

    • On August 14, 2019 at 4:36 pm,
      Jim M says:

      Most armored assault vehicles today are designed to survive in CBRN (chemical, biological, radioactive and nuclear) environments, as well as absorb light anti-tank weapons, much more powerful than a gallon jug of gas – though urban fights are tough environments. You have to move quick, take and hold ground. Protestors can cause problems, but will lose, badly, if the PLA gets involved.

      • On August 14, 2019 at 7:49 pm,
        Al B Korelin says:

        Thanks for this information Jim.

  4. On August 14, 2019 at 12:50 pm,
    cfs says:

    Dan Bongino today had relevant comments re. China and also Hong Kong.
    https://youtu.be/Jx5He_MEwQo?t=1709
    Dan is largely repeating what I had said in this forum a couple of weeks ago.

    The U.S. has the upper hand re. trade.
    (Even if we don’t include food.) We certainly have the upper hand in food.

    • On August 14, 2019 at 7:39 pm,
      Al B Korelin says:

      I did enjoy listening to Don’s show. I have to say that what Don said is in essence Jim brought out this morning. Don’s show is good and it did come out earlier that our’s.

      Thanks for the link.

  5. On August 14, 2019 at 1:00 pm,
    b says:

    I dont know who has the better position, I would think everybody loses from this.
    Russia, who had their agriculture banned from the west has been perfectly happy to sell to China.

    I think the west needs to be careful, Asia is going to be the largest trading zone the world has ever seen, it wouldnt be good if we were to be kept out of it.

    • On August 14, 2019 at 7:40 pm,
      Al B Korelin says:

      No b, it would definitely not be good if we were left out of it. Thanks for the comment.

  6. On August 14, 2019 at 1:05 pm,
    cfs says:

    Talking about declining values: IT IS EDUCATION. Or lack of it.

    e..g. the UK entrance to university is largely based on national exams in “A-levels” exams.

    This very day the UK examination body announced that an A grade would now be given at a lower percentage of correct answers. Down from 66% last year to 54+% this year.

    Over the months in this forum, I have also attempted to argue the superiority of traditional Judeo-Christian ethics and moral values.

    (I remind folks again; I am not arguing for my own religion, since I am neither Jewish or Christian.)
    (And despite being primarily a Physicist and Engineering by learning and training, I have a very significant interest in history, paleo-archaeology and ancient writings and it is from these studies that most of my beliefs in moral values are derived.)

    • On August 14, 2019 at 2:18 pm,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      Told ya……….Education is a scam…. 🙂

      • On August 14, 2019 at 2:23 pm,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        How else, are you going to get the people with IQs of 70 to be PHDs, ….

        • On August 14, 2019 at 2:39 pm,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          the above comment is not directed at you,…..since, I believe you have a ligament Phd.

          • On August 14, 2019 at 4:58 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            ligament……legitimate……have no idea where that came from

        • On August 14, 2019 at 8:00 pm,
          Big Al says:

          You are definitely not going to aware people with this low an intelligent quotient a PhD.

      • On August 14, 2019 at 7:58 pm,
        Big Al says:

        I am not sure that education is a scam in the sense that you are referring.

        I also am aware of your spiritual preferences, CFS, I am not really sure that you have to keep emphasizing it.

        • On August 14, 2019 at 9:10 pm,
          cfs says:

          I think I do, because whenever I mention Israel I get challenged about being Jewish.

          I openly admit to being philosemitic (that’s a word you won’t find in a small American dictionary) but that is more out of admiration for racial intelligence and general hard work.
          Jews are about 0.2% of the world’s population but have won over 20% of Nobel prizes.
          I also admire ethnic Asian school children in Europe and the U.S., e.g. when you see some youngsters carrying musical instruments bigger than them selves or the very fact that they are usually among the top students in classes.
          Learning usually requires discipline, provided by good parents, but very often lacking in some Caucasian and Black parents, I’m saddened to say.

      • On August 15, 2019 at 4:50 am,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        I think it has been said…………90% of current college students could not pass an entry exam from 1910……

  7. On August 14, 2019 at 1:12 pm,
    cfs says:

    According to FTC records released yesterday, did you know:
    AOC (A vocal member of the squad) received almost NO FINANCIAL SUPPORT from within her own district.

    You think she represents her district !?!

  8. On August 14, 2019 at 1:13 pm,
    b says:

    That (lowering the A grade) is hilarious.
    Improving the education is not an option, simply lower the grade requirement, much easier.

    Maybe the sooner AI takes over the better.

    • On August 14, 2019 at 1:26 pm,
      cfs says:

      It is part of the STUPID trend of awarding prizes and awards in school for just taking part or just turning up.

      That’s what happens when unions control teaching.

      The extreme example is in California, where propaganda and giveaways have hollowed out the state.
      Of course, the giveaways have required excessive taxation which has driven intelligent working people out of the state, and an open border has flooded the school with illiterates and semi-illiterates.
      At one time the California state university system was the best in the world. Now it is slowly becoming a joke and Silicon Valley is recruiting from China, India and far away in order to get well educated people.

      • On August 14, 2019 at 8:03 pm,
        Big Al says:

        CFS, awarding prizes for reasons other that excellence is one of the things that will bring America down!

        • On August 14, 2019 at 9:18 pm,
          cfs says:

          What do you mean “will” ?

          That horse already bolted a few decades ago.

  9. On August 14, 2019 at 1:31 pm,
    cfs says:
  10. On August 14, 2019 at 5:57 pm,
    cfs says:

    OFF TOPIC:
    The MSM lie so often by omission.
    Let’s talk about Epstein and Pedo island.
    You heard about plane logs, Right ?

    Here’s the complete story.
    Epstein used 6 pilots over the years.
    Only one of whom actually kept plane logs.
    So when someone in the media says Bill Clinton was on Epstein’s plane 26 times, that media person is really saying ” Although most of Epstein’s pilots did NOT record passengers, the one pilot out of six that did record passengers shows Bill Clinton flew on an Epstein plane 26 times”

    • On August 14, 2019 at 7:30 pm,
      Al B Korelin says:

      Thanks for the information, Jim

      • On August 14, 2019 at 7:44 pm,
        Al B Korelin says:

        Your education certainly is a very positive addition to the comments in our foru!

    • On August 14, 2019 at 8:06 pm,
      Big Al says:

      I have to say, CFS, that the power of the Clinton’s and other prominent families very definitely do shape what they want us to believe is the bruty.

      • On August 14, 2019 at 8:27 pm,
        cfs says:

        I truly believe the power of the pen is mightier than the sword.

        Most communists/Marxists do too, because they fight to control media.
        That is, perhaps, what concerns me the most. Without, at least, some way to mass communicate all is lost.
        I imagine President Trump must be so frustrated. He only has a choice of in promptu
        mini press conferences on route to the helicopter or twitter.
        Everything else is semi-reported or mis-reported. Only direct communication can maybe reach the public without being distorted.

    • On August 14, 2019 at 8:08 pm,
      Big Al says:

      I will go on and say that for Big Al there seems to be absolutely no reason to vote or think about anyone other than himself. Sorry, but I do need to stay as sane as I can.

  11. On August 14, 2019 at 9:21 pm,
    BUZZ says:

    My vote goes to rope-a-dopey Joe Biden. Sure, going punch for punch against Trump? Trump the chump! Go smokin Joe!! Show MAGA what you got

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