Hour 2 – Politics
- Segment 1 and 2 – Big Al chats with Dan Pisenti and Jim McKinney on the current state of American politics.
- Segment 3 and 4 – Al and Chris discuss the dynamic state of politics in America and ask for your opinions.
The Clintons did not object to the electoral college in 1992 when Bill won with just 43% of the vote, so they should not object when Trump won with 3% more than Bill Clinton had in 1992.
Great point, Bonzo!
I would be very curious to see some figures of the illegal votes that she received. Do you know of any way that number could be determined?
No.
I remember about two years ago spending a couple of days trying to estimate the illegal voting in just the state of Florida. (It is absolutely clear that in some counties illegal voting may be about 20% of the votes, but proving it is extremely difficult.)
With voting machines, as long as computer links are monitored at all times by BOTH parties, the problem reduces to illegal registration.
For paper ballots, there is also the problem of disappearance of ballots and counterfeiting.
That is why I was looking at Florida. I concluded that several thousand military votes simply disappeared, but was unable to reach any exact totals.
I am pretty sure there was illegal activity, in that the vote count in some counties was incredibly skewed away from state averages and historical percentages.
Thanks for the clarification, CFS. The key phrase is “extremely difficult to prove””
Actually in a legal sense it may be difficult to prove, but in a mathematical sense there are markers.
Adjacent districts should not have wildly dissimilar turn-outs.
i.e. if one district has 40% of registered voters voting, the next adjacent district should not have 99% (or as actually happened in California 100%)
In the last Presidential election the number of registered voters in Los Angeles exceeded the population and this is common in California. What is indicative of corruption is when the voting turn-out number approaches the number of registered voters.
If one district voted 40% Democrat one year with the national average also being 40% ,
you would not expect it to vote 70% democrat two years later unless the national average also shifted up significantly ( a problem in Florida)
There are statistical analyses that can be performed, comparing voting history, voting roll number changes, which can definitely flag anomalous voting situations and I don’t believe the U.S. has a non-corrupt system.
It is probably not universally corrupt, but certain regions are suspect.
I agree with you on this one, Professor
I have a feeling Trump would like to abolish the Federal Reserve.
However, I don’t believe he can find an efficient and viable alternative.
What I find amazing, is, that given the amazing bias in the press, that it is possible that Trump may still be able to win in 2020.
While Trump has cut some regulations, and tax slightly, in my opinion he needs to further reduce the size of Government.
Republican presidents may appear to fail by over-spending, but they always inherit a weakened defense.
I am actually surprised by Trump’s relative success, considering he is thwarted by a lack of a majority in the House……and thus, given the current polarization in politics, unable to change law.
An “efficient and viable alternative” is called a free market. Of course, after 100+ years standardized, centralized public schooling, few will accept this fact.
Interesting comment which I do not disagree with. I just how I managed to learn about the “free market system” in a public school.
Matthew, exactly how do you have “a free market” in setting over-night interest rates and the amount of money injected into the banking system?
So you believe in the legitimacy of the Marxist system? Or worse, the necessity of such a system?
Like I said, after 100+ years of public schooling…
Matthew, I asked for a simple explanation of the mechanics of how you would devise “a free market” setting of interest rates and injection of money into the financial system.
I don’t see how it can be done.
It seems to me it has to be EITHER done by an independent body OR the government itself.
I don’t see HOW IT CAN BE DONE BY FREE ENTERPRISE.
And, CFS, I stated a simple fact about you. Your assumptions about the legitimacy of interest rate manipulation and injections of money into the system are way off base.
Maybe Al can bring Jeff Deist on to explain it to you.
Matthew, A question and a comment.
Question: What evidence do you believe indicates I “believe in the legitimacy of the Marxist system” ?
Comment: Since you have not provided a free enterprise way of setting interest rates and injecting money, I assume you don’t have one.
Like I say; I only see two viable alternatives: set by independent committee OR set by government.
The third alternative of not worrying about money injection or interest rates is, I believe, non-viable, unless you desire an economy like Zimbabwe or Argentina.
I am unable (not intelligent enough) to figure how to regulate the economy any other way.
1.) Your belief in the need for a central authority to set rates and inject money into the system amounts to a belief it the 5th plank of the communist manifesto.
2.) You do lots of assuming when you should be investigating.
Matthew, regulating interest rates and money injection into the economy may be like a plank of the communist manifesto, but what is your free enterprise alternative?
It isn’t “like a plank…” it IS one. Supply/demand should be allowed to set the price of money just like any other good or service and money injections shouldn’t happen at all.
“The central bank can try to manipulate the interest rate to whatever level it desires. However they cannot exercise control over the underlying interest rates as dictated by people’s time preferences. When the central bank engages in a persistent lowering of interest rates this policy sets in motion an increase in the underlying interest rates as dictated by people’s time preferences. (The exact opposite of the central bank’s intention.)
It is not going to help true economic growth if the central bank artificially lowers interest rates whilst the people did not allocate an adequate amount of real savings to support the expansion of capital goods investments. It is not possible to replace real saved wealth with more money and the artificial lowering of interest rates. It is not possible to generate something out of nothing as suggested by Keynes and his many followers.”
How to Manipulate People with Interest Rates
https://mises.org/wire/how-manipulate-people-interest-rates
The Theory of Interest Rates
https://mises.org/library/theory-interest-rates
(I haven’t listened to this yet but I bet it’s worthwhile.)
Matthew SAYS:
“It isn’t “like a plank…” it IS one. Supply/demand should be allowed to set the price of money just like any other good or service and money injections shouldn’t happen at all.”
cfs REPLIES:
Not allowing the money supply to be expanded, either implies the government budget cannot be run at a deficit, or that the government sucks money out of the private economy to cover the deficit, which implies forced contraction of business.
(and higher interest rates every year there is a deficit.)
I understand your belief “in an ideal world”, but it does not make sense in he real world in which we actually live.
I suspect you and I actually have similar beliefs.
“The best government is the least government.”
I told you so, you’re a Marxist. If the government needs money it should have to take it “honestly” through direct taxation rather than the least understood collectivist/socialist way that you favor.
The families behind the central “banks” have had their way with the minds of countless millions for so long that it is unlikely they will ever figure out how perverted their world view is. You’re one among those millions, CFS.
Your belief in a “government that governs least” is not consistent with your defense of the status quo. Cognitive dissonance afflicts billions worldwide.
56 minutes of history more than economics.
Chapter 7 of Reinhart & Rogoff is better than Mises, but even then does not really discuss the point, philosophically or logically. (again historically…..I’m beginning to think economists are mathematically challenged.
Matthew, I live in the real world.
Not some hypothetical world in which governments raise money only by taxation.
I live in a world where what other countries do affect the economics of my country.
Where inflation exists, or not, dependent on what other countries do.
I do not think it is possible in the real world to let “the market” decide what interest rates should be.
The economics of the real world allow “free markets” to exist only in the pipe dreams of unrealistic people, who should be living on an isolated island where perhaps their beliefs might be relevant.
Those are the comments of an indoctrinated fool, CFS. Do you know what your nation’s founders thought should be done with counterfeiters?
Under the current system, you do not own yourself. Therefore, all other ownership is an illusion. Yet you defend it as necessary because you do not understand economics or money or interest rates.
Btw, Reinhart and Rogoff serve the swamp and couldn’t tie Mises’ shoes. The comparison is asinine.
Death by hanging……….counterfeiters………printed on every bill or currency….
CFS, my education tells me that the existence of these variables makes a free market, as I know it, impossible! Can anyone here help me out on the one as I learned in my college courses in economics that the existence of a pure free market would not exist if the money supply or the cost of borrowing were negated.
………We have too much GOVT.(23.9 million govt workers)……and the money is going out the back door…….
Go back to the point……of the Constitution…..the govt. can coin it’s own money., and a Central BANK, is not needed.
Someone……..does not understand the FAKE FED…….
OOTB, I agree with you. We have way too much government, but how can one reduce it, in a Democracy ?
JFK talked about abolishing the Fed and look what happened to him.
(Don’t forget Trump has survived one missile attack on Air Force One early in his presidency. Ordinary people don’t fire missiles; that was a deep state attack.)
Trump is not close to being an absolute dictator,and anything he attempts is mercilessly attacked in the media.
Thank you for the reply……..appreciate….
First recognize as citizens…….the govt is too big,……helping others to understand, there is no Free lunch……and understand DEBT…..
Understand we have been overtaken by a corrupt CIA/Shadow govt., which Trump has suggested.and I agree……and that includes the press…..and people who want to steal everything that is rightfully ours…..
Unfortunately……we have Fake Churches…….who profess to be giving God’s guidance ..
when actually leading us astray…..but, that is another topic….
I would certainly like to see a universal voucher system mandated for each school taxing unit, so that parents had a real choice for schooling.
But that has a snowball’s chance in hell of ever being adopted, given the power of teachers unions.
Given the power of the National Education Association, I have to agree with you.
Teachers are leaving left and right……..average teacher only stays 5 yrs.
“average teacher only stays 5 years”
does not appear verifiable.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=school+teacher+attrition+rate&atb=v106-3_g&ia=web
hate to call ducky a liar………but, just hear that from….PBS, and some other source.
And Boots on the Ground in Indiana…….I think that is a real number…..
Pipe dream……..until the College Entrance Exam changes……..the schools will keep teaching the wrong way….
The Universities …….are a DEBT MACHINE……designed by the GOVT….via Govt BOARD OF EDUCATION
Vouchers…….are a band aid…..
I am including this article from ONE OF THE WEBB’s…..even though this article is written , most of the information comes first from George Webb…..
https://www.mintpressnews.com/genesis-jeffrey-epstein-bill-clinton-relationship/261455/
THIS WILL INCLUDE ………the past and current theme…..of the shadow CIA…..
Anyone wanting to really know what is going on behind the scenes of the GOVT…..
and What has been going on for YEARS>>>>>>>>>>>>needs to read this article…..
In addition…….you might enjoy listening to ….George Webb, which reviews the article…….and fills in the planks,,,,,,LIke how the FED. with Rubin financed the little rock bank , along with the Rose Law firm…who distributed the rinsed MONEY……
Here is the link……for those interested……..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nps50qcfXEs
It’s a gooberment of the criminals, by the criminals for the criminals and is the greatest criminal enterprise the world has ever known.
The Ameroconned Sheeple might not always like it but they are incapable of even imagining an alternative. They might not always like their rulers but they never question being ruled. In fact, they are so brainwashed they do not even realized they are ruled.
This country is systemically corrupt. Our rulers have created the greatest debt bubble the world has ever known. What else can you expect from the greatest criminal enterprise the world has ever known?
But that bubble will blow up and when it does the entire Neo-Feudal Casino Gulag Plantation Fractured Reserve Debt Based economic outhouse will burn to the ground.
Ditto……..
WE THE PEOPLE>……..NEED TO GET INFORMED ……..and stop pretending the Two headed snake is anything more than a pay to play operation….
I tell you Jerry, the Amerconned Sheeple are clueless.
Last week I went to a meeting the local recreation district had to con the sheeple into a tax increase. Less than twenty people showed up. No one cares. The placed should have been packed with people carrying pitchforks and torches. The bureaucrat who put it on was angered with my questions about the pensions. Today I find out they want to use the money from the tax increase to float a bond thus getting the district into more debt. Obscene, yet no one cares.
This is a nation of brainwashed sheep ruled by perverted criminals.
Less than twenty people showed up.
And all but four or five were supporters of the tax increase. I think they were city employees or their relatives.
The sheeple do not understand DEBT………that is evident…..starting with GOVT.
Hell, the people do not understand Freedom……….
I tell you Jerry, most aren’t even aware and if they are they just don’t care or they believe the lies like the ones I heard last week from that bureaucrat. As Carlin said, “The public sucks.”
Once ……they figure it out, if ever……..they are DEAD……
Hope , you have been following George Webb……
He really has connect a lot of dots……
connected……
Kind of an interesting read, Jerry. It is logical for me to assume that some huge people in American politics were involved with Epstein. I mean how would the offer “interesting/unique sex to a secular person like, for example, Clinton be taken. Most secular people don’t have the same moral values that we do.
Did You listen to the pod cast of GEORGE WEBB……???????????????????????????
This is NOT A SEX scandal ……..IT is DEEPER……..Uranium, Drugs ,guns, and the overthrow of governments with the help of CIA…..and it certainly is not for FREEDOM…..
And FUNDED by the FED…….like always…..you have to go way back and do some history lessons…..
You are right, Jerry. It goes way beyond sex. But you can bet this corrupt system will do all it can to bury it and if it can’t do that then paper it over as just a sex scandal.
I doubt it was funded much by the Fed.
I thought the whole point of CIA drug running was to provide money to get guns to the contras. (OFF THE BOOKS>)
(And, of course, enrich themselves too.)
I may be wrong, but Ollie North does not strike me as rich.
Yet he was clearly involved with gun-running.
Do you read to understand , or just read to be reading…..
I posted the pod cast of both Webb’s……..I instructed that , one read the script of Mint press, Whitney Webb first…………..then listen to George who fills in the blanks….
With your added comment…….says to me, you have done neither……
George clearly , shows you the answer……
I do not want to appear rude….., but, I am getting a little perplexed at some ,and the ability to come to the conclusion…..the govt is corrupt..and discovered by… TRUMP , you advocate Trump’s wisdom,and insight…..and a Great American fighting for the American people……..Well then……..
If, you have been on this site since 2000 as you claimed………You would not be so confused, ..or maybe….not have read the information provided for free, …or maybe, ….as I can appreciate , maybe distracted..or maybe over whelmed with the information. provide…..
I object, but don’t want to open a discussion about he clergy.
My objection was in reference to “same moral values as we do.”
e.g. When at Oxford University, I volunteered work for OXFAM before it became the monstrosity it now is. On occasion the local management took volunteers out for a meal. I was one of the few that insisted on paying for my own meal, whereas many were paid for out of OXFAM money. (I thought then, and still think now, that was abusing charity, and incidentally one of those helpers was a high ranking member of the Church of England.)
I love clergy talk………………..it actually…….get people to think……..Dark to LIght.
Anyone that is in the dark needs to come out of the darkness…….and see the govt is leading people into darkness………The founding fathers wanted a new beginning., with a basis of understanding of the GOD GIVEN RIGHT OF FREEDOM..Leading us into Light…We the People not Govt. not the Fed……….Why on earth, does any man think he has the right to dominate another human, man, By DEBT and BONDAGE……..it is not logical……..Nor Godly…….”IN GOD WE TRUST”…….Not in GOVT.and BONDMASTERS
Humans are all equal in the sight of GOD……the Creator….of ALL……..
Govt.of the PEOPLE….via the Constitution, has become dull in their logic..and understanding ….From the very beginning DEBT is not logical…..it is not wisdom…..Wisdom is what we need……..not more DEBT.
The Romans gave us the clue,,,,the corrupt state, a look at how debt does not work….. and we find ourselves in the same situation …..
The Fed, central banking, the clipping of coins, ….people do not read , therefore become unwise, from a pervert agency of central banking the fed, the fraudsters , wanting to call themselves KING FOR THE DAY…Masters of the NWO.
THe Central Bank is a BIG SCAM, and the Education system promotes ignorance.
Boys! Tell me how you go from “community organizer” to buying a 15 million dollar summer home in Martha’s Vineyard. Well, Bammy did it!
The comment posted with that article says it all…
The obscene rewards for being part of the establishment and selling your own people down the river. Same as Blair
And that’s just one of Bammy’s mansions…he’s got another in the District of Criminals…and doesn’t he have another in Hawaii? Wonder how many he has in Africa.
Mathematically, it was achieved by incredibly generous advances for books by both Barry and Michelle, a very generous bank mortgage, based on unemployment with government pensions, and it appears little payment of federal income tax.
(But then I don’t know how much he pulled out of his off-shore accounts.)
Leona Helmsly told the truth when she said taxes are for the little people. Of course, they put the wood to her for that.
Leona……….she spoke the truth, and the sheeple are so stupid, they thought she was crazy…. lol
Leona did not realize she herself was also one of the little people.
Hah! Ain’t that the truth…
All of the MSM serves to propagandize for the benefit of those who want total control over you. The MSM is not driven by anyone’s concern for your well-being or a desire to enlighten you. So here’s an example of the kind of information that won’t be brought to your attention for consideration:
Guns Prevent Thousands of Crimes Every Day, Research Shows
https://fee.org/articles/guns-prevent-thousands-of-crimes-every-day-research-show/
Ditto………
Good to hear Chris.
I agree Trump wins the next election if it was done today.
The election is his to lose.
Whats funny is Trump is the very best the U.S. can produce.
George Carlin Politicians
https://youtu.be/07w9K2XR3f0
Mr. Pisenti brought your point up in our discussion with him. I too am amazed.
Come on b, don’t you know that in this Neo-Feudal Casino Gulag Plantation Fractured Reserve Debt Based society the sh*t rises to the top?
And that Carlin clip is a classic.
“””What’s funny is Trump is the very best the U.S. can produce.”””
I try not to criticize people in this forum, but….
I think labeling Trump, using that line above, is pure virtue signaling.
I believe America elected the best man for the job, even if they didn’t know it at the time.
I am sick of left-wing criticisms against Trump.
He seems to work harder than any President in my lifetime.
I am amazed at what he has managed to accomplish so far, battling against a deadlocked Congress.
So he’s not a polished politician that says one thing and then goes and does another. THANK GOD.
he doesn’t take the easy way and just give endless hand-outs to buy votes. THANK GOD.
He may not be smooth, but I truly believe he loves America and wants to do the best for us. THANK GOD.
He clearly is not in it just for himself and the money, unlike most other Presidents we have had in the last few decades. THANK GOD.
Taking criticism everywhere in the media.
He’s blowing up the debt and that alone is obscene. It’s completely unsustainable. The debt is a disaster and when the SHTF the sheeple will demand the gooberment “do something.” Just what the PTB want. Hello MMT.
I agree the debt is obscene, but the budget is set by the House of Representatives, not the President.
(If you did not notice there was a point in time when Trump suggested cutting funding for Planned Parenthood, and that suggestion was met with impeachment screams. Trump walks a fine line, not of his own making.)
Last year Trumpy signed a budget monstrosity and said he wouldn’t do it again. Well, he did it again. He has to grow a pair and veto every budget until he gets something half way sane. But that’s not what he wants because he is a fraud.
You have to be careful what you read in the media.
Trump actually proposed cutting Government spending by about $300 Billion per year:
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/373413-trump-releases-2019-budget
Not reported in many newspapers, OF COURSE>
If Trump Were an Airline Pilot
https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2019/08/if-trump-were-airline-pilot/596575/
It’s getting worse by the day at the moment
greg Hunter discusses the Jubilee
Clif High & Bix Weir (Part 3) – $100k Bitcoin Parties with Cryptos Freeing Humanity!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA_4S62HntI&feature=youtu.be&t=2593
For the record: Presidential Vote 2016.
Clinton received 65,844,610 votes, or 48.2% of the total vote.
Trump received 62,979,636 votes, or 46.1% of the total vote.
(That’s a difference of 2.86 million votes.)
The remaining 5.7% of the vote went to other candidates, like Gary Johnson, Jill Stein, Evan McMullin, etc.