Hour 2 – Politics
- Segment 1 – We discuss the dangers of social media with Dr. Frieda Burnbaum.
- Segment 2 – We talk with Carl Hetterle a PGA golf profession who is active in Folds of Honor helping soldiers to reestablish themselves and their families.
- Segment 3 – Big Al and Jim McKinney along with Chris Temple discuss the relationship America has with China and Iran.
Semiahmoo Head Golf Professional, Carl Hatterle
Just more unimportant BS in the world of social media. I have absolutely no respect for this man and in that sense he is simply shooting himself in the foot with the public.
Do not worry Owl……Rappers usually get shot from the Hood……
A lot of truth in your comment, Jerry. My main question is why don’t those goes become a credit to their race and share both education and joy. I could never figure that out!
They Lied To You About Felicity Huffman and Tanya McDowell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=107&v=pOazE22Bp10
This fellow brought up some very interesting points. Agree or disagree Markettofuture?
Big Al, agree 100%… people are waking up to the fake news big time. Here is one from the Fake News Times about Justice Kavanaugh
The Illuminati Are About To Make Their Final Move (2019-2020)
They’ve been planning this since the beginning of time!
A VERY GOOD WATCH…………..some people here on this site might be enlightened …especially, concerning the BUSH……JMO
They can’t have those poppies falling into the wrong hands. Trump was entertaining the crowd at the last G-7.
Stunned Silence Followed Trump’s G-7 Outburst: “Where’s My Favorite Dictator”
Oh how we wish this one were captured on video, but alas The Wall Street Journal could only vividly describe the epic moment when President Trump shouted across a crowded room, “Where’s my favorite dictator”? —while awaiting a meeting with Egypt’s president.
Forrest Gump would have had a good time in the british army – Stupid is as stupid does. They lack teachers of cycles and the polar shift.
Delingpole: British Army to Phase out Fossil Fuels to Attract Eco-Friendly Recruits
The British Army is considering phasing out fossil-fuel-powered tanks, APCs and lorries in order to save the planet and to attract more recruits who are worried about global warming.
Inbreeding………….of the Royal……..created Forrest Gump…. lol
Morning Jerry,
Forest Gump could very be one of the most misunderstood people in the world!
The only comment I have on this is that phasing out fossil-fuel powered equipment does not currently seem feasible to me.
I actually think that is funny. Our President truly does not care what others think. That makes him truly unique.
He did have the balls to say that and I commend him for it. What do you think?
Jerry, you left out the link so that we could watch. Please add it when you reply to me.
Owl………the link………is provided by markettofuture………
Did you view the video…..a lot of good info. connecting a lot of dots……
History and facts….which really tells us a lot of what is happening today.
Yup Jerry it is a very good watch. This video depicts my exact reasons for alerting people about the dangers of social media.
I am hoping, you are kidding, concerning alternative media……..
Owl………you are running a social media platform……… 🙂
Morning Jerry, exactly which comment did I make about social media that you are alerting me to?
Morning Jerry and Markedtofuture, my life is complicated enough and I have made a decision to not worry about the Illuminati. Call me naive, but I am simply portioning my time so that I can retain my sanity.
Please don’t assume by my comment about the Illuminati that I am ignorant about it or that I don’t care. I am certainly not ignorant or uncaring about it.
Owl…….no one would ever call you ignorant……or uncaring….
We are all spending time accumulating information, that we think should be openly shared.
There is a lot going on politically, which some are not aware.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrhejY6HXyg Is a conspiracy theory all in itself.
I don’t believe any conspiracy can last multiple generations. Over generations there are always going to be dissenters, “plotters” who have short-term goals that interfere with and disrupt the conspiracy.
Too many citizens are 60 second citizens, spending 60 seconds in the voting booth, then patting themselves on the back for voting when the real work of good government is done prior to the voting, such as seeking out good and wise individuals for office and then sustaining them when in office.
How many 60 second citizens blindly vote for someone based on a few sound bites, that most likely contain more deception than truth or vote simply by party with little understanding what the party or individuals running really stand for.
Good government requires significant labor at the front end of the process by engaged citizens who take the time and effort to research the issues as well as potential candidates and to sort out fact from fiction, fiction that is so abundantly dished out by purveyors of spin and deception.
Many of the 60 second citizens are like those who sit down to a scanty meal and then complain about what is on the menu, when they invested little or no effort to sow, harvest, and prepare the sumptuous meal they demanded.
Sadly, society usually votes for more government to solve the problems created by bad government and wonder why what they say they desire, good government, never appears.
Just like the minutemen of the revolution, how many showed up when called upon and when needed. Sadly, too few, but how many showed up after the difficult conflict for liberty was won, to take their bows along with the minutemen who gave the sacrifice needed to win the fight.
There are too many show boaters in Washington D.C. and too few who actually do the work and try to bring about good and responsible government. Sadly, the same can be said for the 60 second citizens, too few willing to do the work of civic responsibility.
And because of this, those who do their civic responsibility too often suffer the bad government the 60 second citizens gave us. With another election soon to be at hand, will we roll up our sleeves and pitch in as every citizen should? I hope enough do.
I can’t help but recall the incident in Genesis, where Abraham bargained with the Lord for the preservation of Sodom and Gomorrah. “Peradventure that there be 10 righteous found in the city” the Lord would spare the city, but 10 were not found and the cities were destroyed.
There is something to this Heavenly math. Peradventure that a certain number of righteous or diligent citizens, may be found in the country, the country may be spared from destruction from within. Will be found in that number that will spare the country?
One way to contribute to liberty is to join Hillsdale College and their “Liberty and Learning Society” which puts our resources to work educating the youth in K-12 about the facts regarding the principles of the founding, the Declaration of Liberty, and the Constitution in the hope that the young people in the rising generation will understand what they need to in able to be good contributing citizens and to hopefully help turn the country back to the principles that made it great.
Pardu,
I have always had a lot of respect for you and your comment certainly increases my level of respect.
Dittos for you as well for all you do to enlighten us with those you bring on to interview, which assists us all to ponder varying points of view.
A good overview of Yemen and Houthis:
Major problem with this EU generated report – if failed to identify how the Houthis are being supplied and funded. Iran – no mention. Major oversight.
As always, many thanks Pardu!
WHY
WASHINGTON, Sept 14 (Reuters) – U.S. President Donald Trump said on Saturday he had spoken with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu about a possible mutual defense treaty between the two nations, a move that could bolster Netanyahu’s re-election bid just days before Israelis go to the polls.
“I had a call today with Prime Minister Netanyahu to discuss the possibility of moving forward with a Mutual Defense Treaty, between the United States and Israel, that would further anchor the tremendous alliance between our two countries,” Trump said on Twitter.
WHY?
Defense pacts should only be made among equals or neighbors.
Israeli Attacks On Syria Halted After Russia Threatened To Shoot Down Jets
Russia threatened to shoot down any invading Israeli warplanes using fighter jets or their S-400 system.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israeli-attacks-syria-halted-after-russia-threatened-shoot-down-jets-report
Maybe this is why Netenyahoo wants to reafirm their relationship with the states.
https://www.apnews.com/d20f80188e3543bfb36d512df7777cd4
This makes the perpetrator pretty clear. Do you agree?
Wanting a public mutual peace treaty would certainly be in Israel’s best interest. On the other hand, it could definitely start a major war. I hope that Trump is not that stupid and he just leaves the implication in place that America will watch Israel’s back.
As always any situation between Israel and America raises eyebrows certainly including mine. I don’t think that we really need to do that. Israel is a very strong country in its own right.
HMMMMMMMMM! No one here has mentioned the attack on The Saudi Oil fields. If The Fed was looking for inflation they’ve got it now, down go the rates. The oil men will be licking their chops, the government will let them develop the national resources on friendly and not to stringent terms. DT
China just struck a big development with Iran, give us your oil and we will build up your infrastructure, of course that means The Chinese Army will now protect it’s Iranian oil. This whole scenario is making Washington, Tel Aviv, and The Saudis look very vulnerable in the eyes of The World. DT
False Flag………..says Gregg M………
https://www.traderschoice.net/
Same old trick…….been using this trick on OIL……since 1970’s
b…………..GMan…….is just taking history and trading……….
taking to talking…..
Im just saying its not a false flag.
OK…Got ya………..
NEO CON MAN………
In a follow up tweet, Pompeo said that he calls “on all nations to publicly and unequivocally condemn Iran’s attacks” which is odd as not even Saudi Arabia accused Iran of today’s aggression
Obviously not s false flag, since Houthis claim responsibility.
Yemen, a very poor country, not capable of much.
Houthis rebels, backed by Iran, financed by Iran, supplied weapons by Iran are capable.
Just my opinion of course but I think southfront will be a bit more informed than GMan.
PHOTOS SHOW HOUTHIS USED CRUISE MISSILE IN THEIR ATTACK ON SAUDI OIL FACILITIES
SAUDI ARABIA’S OIL SUPPLY DISRUPTED FOLLOWING HOUTHI DRONE ATTACKS – REUTERS
https://southfront.org/saudi-arabias-oil-supply-disrupted-following-houthi-drone-attacks-reuters/
OPERATION DETERRENT BALANCE 2: HOUTHI DRONES DEVASTATE TWO STRATEGIC SAUDI OIL FACILITIES (VIDEOS)
Anyone thats been following whats been going on in Yeman and Saudi Arabia will know that the Houthis are attacking deeper and deeper into Saudi.
Also the uae has gotten involved, looks like their on the Houthi side.
DT is also correct, China is willing to build Iranian infrastructure for cheap oil.
An interesting thing is China plans to send warships to protect the oil vessels.
All of a sudden the Canadian oil sands are looking a lot more valuable.
One more interesting thing, Russia is planning on $25 oil.
Russia has all cash required to pay all debts they have in cash.
Is it possible we see oil in the west go up in price and down in the east?
Talk about outsmarting the neocons.
CAN WE SAY>>>>>>>>>>NEO CON>>>>>>>>>>>
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/massive-fire-after-drone-strike-hits-worlds-largest-oil-processing-facility-saudi
In a follow up tweet, Pompeo said that he calls “on all nations to publicly and unequivocally condemn Iran’s attacks” which is odd as not even Saudi Arabia accused Iran of today’s aggression
China owns over 400 farms in the USA……Gregg makes the statement…..HUMMMMMMM
American tax payers paying the Chinese…..what a JOKE
So when China bans soy beans from the states they ban from Chinese companies.
Funny world.
I think they are just banning Monsanto………like dope it is a killer……… :).
Chinese are now……..eating donkeys………….heck , with beans….
The American military will be forced to withdraw from the World stage, no longer can it attack with impunity much smaller and more vulnerable nations. The missiles and advanced weaponry available to many emerging countries make it impossible for the once mighty USA to remain relatively unscathed from military encounters. Their homeland could easily be targeted from anywhere in this increasingly global World. China is growing their military capabilities, that alone should be America’s concern and their homeland. Time to bring the troops home and develop a more defensive posture, the old idea of seek and destroy has now passed. DT
During The Second World War Britain stood alone on an island. Germany could not defeat their navy, so they developed the Buzzbomb and later The V2 rocket. There was no defense against the V2, you just have to wait for the outcome. The ICBM is in the arsenal of many nations, it can be targeted to hit anywhere at anytime and from any direction, there is no defense against advanced ICBM’S, if you don’t feel vulnerable you should. Like Britain in The Second World War you can’t remain an island any longer.. DT
It’s not the loss of oil that should concern the public but rather the capability of even backward nations to acquire weapons of mass destruction, that can upset the global economy, environment, not to mention the loss of life, etcetera, etcetera. Now turn your eyes to North Korea, do you still think American should have a military presence there after more than 65 years. DT
It is not technically true that there is no defense against ICBMs.
Both high power pulsed lasers at long range and beam weapons at short range could be used against ICBMs. The US does not currently have deployed such systems.
It does have anti-missile missiles, such as the patriot, which could also be used, but not 100% effectively, and very poorly against highly mirved ICBMs.
Of course the US does not actually have troops in North Korea, but about 24,000 soldiers, sailors and airmen in S. Korea as a trigger to stop invasion from the north.
The quantity is minimalist and not a defense force for S. Korea.
Slightly less minimal are the number of troops (42,000) in Germany. But again, these are not really to defend Germany, but partly pre-deployed to be moved elsewhere and to maintain staging posts and essential airfields.
Here is an interesting link: https://www.today.com/video/saudi-oil-field-attacks-iran-backed-rebels-claim-responsibility-68985413899
I don’t know if I believe the Houthi claims. For the attack to have been launched from Yemen the drone would have had to have flown about 800 miles, and arrive accurately.
If you look at a map of Saudi, the strikes are mostly to the East and a little bit North of Riyadh. The location of the strikes is only a few tens of miles in from the coast of Saudi opposite Iran.
Logic would seem to place the blame on Iran, hitting an obvious close target, rather than Houthis in Yemen hitting a difficult target…..with other easy, closer targets.
Look at a map to see for yourselves.
Mr. Tracy, your comment makes all the sense in the world. Thank you.
California Dreaming……………The New Housing……Demo style…….
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/pod-people-future-housing-americas-sharing-economy
Jerry, I really don’t think that this will every work. It is contrary to basic human nature!
BIG BROTHER…..at work, collecting data……..
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/youre-being-tracked-massive-30-state-real-time-license-plate-database-revealed
Wow! Jerry that is simply amazing!
Na, cant be true, must be a conspiracy theory.
Who would ever believe the U.S. is a police state?
Next thing people will be saying aipac has some kinda influence.
All conspiracy theory. Wacko stuff.
Look out , some might take you serious……… 🙂
Zerohedge has been scaremongering to some extent.
ALPR technology has been in use in the UK for about 10 years, and while I’m distrustful of authoritarian massive surveillance, it has been useful in tracing stolen cars and tracking terrorists after the acts of terrorism.
UK…..has been a mess for 10 yrs…………lol…….
Terrorists………are the boogie man of the cia…and queen
A lot of people are going to be walking to work……….
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/us-car-ownership-costs-surge-record-highs-delinquencies-soar-trouble-ahead
Simply amazing Jerry. My question to you is: “How much credible do you think that Zero Hedge really is in issues like this one?
Generally, ….I think their info is spot on……jmo
But, concerning this article, …I guess we will see later…..
Please make the pictures a little larger……… 🙂
The pictures are taking up more square footage, than an affordable space for rent in California… 🙂
Jerry, I am trying very hard to resize all of the pictures that we use.
Just joking with you Owl…… 🙂
9/11 onusawatchdog part ll
More info. for the Popular Mechanics magazine group……….9/11 groupies
Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report – The World Trade Center
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/
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On September 12, 2019 at 5:16 am,
OOTB Jerry says:
I guess the conclusion of 200 plus architects and engineer, need to turn in the license….lol
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On September 12, 2019 at 5:28 am,
OOTB Jerry says:
Always like your introduction of counter arguments………keeps a person on their toes…thanks for the article……….
On September 12, 2019 at 5:36 am,
OOTB Jerry says:
It would be nice , if the article had brought up the point that Larry’s contemplated remodeling the twin towers, but found it was to costly to remodel ,,,, this was after the fire department found it was unsafe, because of asbestos….lol
Check out the Larry S. insurance fraud…….just saying…… 🙂
On September 12, 2019 at 5:44 am,
OOTB Jerry says:
Members of Congress.and Justice….are part of the scam…..on 9/11………….
Mueller part of the… lack of investigation………
Govt. cleaned up the site before evidence could be investigated…..
On September 12, 2019 at 7:34 am,
Matthew says:
It’s really pathetic that so many can be so easily swayed by corrupt/corruptible authority figures. Popular Mechanics is no match for common sense.
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On September 12, 2019 at 10:39 am,
OOTB Jerry says:
Victims of public education by the shadow govt…….Where is that Betsy DeVos , what the heck has she been doing…..anyone got a clue………
On September 12, 2019 at 6:04 pm,
OOTB Jerry says:
I am going to print this……..So next year , just in case it disappears……
https://www.sgtreport.com/2019/09/9-11-conspiracy-fake-cellphone-calls-operation-northwoods-secret-docs-released-capt-dave-bertrand-ret-videos/
This is the week for Americans sitting on the fence about what actually happened on 9/11, to do the necessary research and consider the overwhelming evidence versus the government’s on-going propaganda “official report” as nothing more than a cover for the Bush Administration and all those involved with the most dangerous false flag attack in the history of the United States.
Do not focus entirely on what explosive devices actually brought down the towers, but focus on those persons (and countries) behind the attack to really understand the planning and execution of how 9/11 came about and the reasons thereof.
Just as the USS Liberty attack by Israeli IDF jet fighters was an attempt to drag the U.S. into a war with Egypt, the same can be said for the need of a false flag attack in America to drag the U.S. into a Middle East war that continues to today. The same players back then, were the same players on 9/11.
Planning the 9/11 attack was extensive and involved many elements for the attack. On 9/11….four airliners were supposedly hijacked by Arabs, with very little flight time experience flying airplanes, let alone 767 and 757 Boeing aircraft, and with EXTREME PRECISION, which I myself couldn’t accomplish in a DC-8 simulator a few years after 9/11, ripping off the left wing…..the best that I could do, nor by most airline captains that tried the same scenario(s), these low time Arab pilots flew large jets into the trade centers(??), while Flight 93 is alleged to have been ordered shot down by Dick Cheney, of course inspired the movie “Let’s Roll,” Flight 93 taken-over by passengers that eventually nose dived the jet into a field, disappearing entirely into a 16 foot wide hole. NOT one bone, or piece of a titanium jet engine recovered.
However…..while sitting in awe all day at my Tennessee ranch home, watching television, a news helicopter showed a mile stretch of debris field from flight 93 and that video clip is nowhere to be found now, including witness interviews that saw a grey military jet in the area during the [shoot down].
According to cellphone calls from United flight 93, passengers planned to slam a food cart into the door of the cockpit, over-take the hijackers and save the the day…..of which there was NO WAY cellphone communications above 3,000 feet were even capable of holding a call for more than a second.
That lie continues today as the anti-conspiracy theory advocates of Osama bin Laden push the various cellphone calls on 9/11, and one special call that fakestream media will NOT discuss…the call from CNN Barbara Olson on flight 77, moments from impact with the Pentagon, calling her husband on a seat-back air-phone that American Airlines admitted later…..”no air-phones on American 757 jets.”
18 years later, there’s enough evidence to prove, the actual jetliners with passengers were diverted by operatives……telling the crew and passengers, they were involved with a military exercise and [sorry for the inconvenience] while drone operated 767 and 757 jets, painted with United and American Airline colors, accomplished the mission. Note: Every single (cellphone) call was read from a script, no background noise of air passing by, or any sound of jet engines, with one call ending (by the passenger) whispering at the very end….”This is a fraud.”
And how ironic is it that on that very same morning of 9/11, there was a large military exercise happening, and guess what the scenario was??? You guessed it ! Hijacked airliners heading to New York and Washington, targeting buildings.
Bogus computer generated radar (hijacked) targets displaying the hijack transponder squawk code of 7500 were mixed in with the alleged (actual) hijacked airliners, all four NOT displaying the 7500 code and with transponders turned off on all four, the primary target was hard to track by air traffic controllers. When the first report came into ATC of the alleged (actual) hijacking, the control chief at Air Traffic Control is recorded as saying….”Is this real or the exercise?”
“An aircraft at Elgin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone [a remotely controlled unmanned aircraft].
From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Elgin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan.”
The above excerpt is NOT about 9/11, but Operation Northwoods, a plan to set-up support for a war with Cuba.
D
I was on another blog, the topic was 911, I said the official story is bs.
One argument was there is no way a secret that big could be kept.
I asked if they knew for certain who killed JFK.
They responded without hesitation Lee Harvey Oswald.
And they believed it.
The brainwashing works and it goes deep, it is so effective I dont know if people can be blamed for being oblivious to what is actually happening.
Now that is scary………
Just some more info………..go to the bottom……..9/11
Rumsfeld…..missing $2.3 Trillion the day before 9/11
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-we-are-all-hostages-911
On September 12, 2019 at 6:04 pm,
OOTB Jerry says:
I am going to print this……..So next year , just in case it disappears……
https://www.sgtreport.com/2019/09/9-11-conspiracy-fake-cellphone-calls-operation-northwoods-secret-docs-released-capt-dave-bertrand-ret-videos/
Univ. of Alaska study:
This should make everyone , want to move to Illinois……lol….Just more corruption…
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/only-illinois-wife-indicted-political-boss-will-hold-highest-judicial-post-state
The as-yet unindicted criminal HRC reads her emails in Venice:
https://time.com/5675575/hillary-clinton-emails-art-exhibition/
Barr, is not going to do anything about Clinton, because they are all in the same ring.
Drugs, guns, uranium for power and nukes.
Comey, Mueller, and Barr……Just how is Trump going to play this one…..should be very interesting.
If this is true !!!
Is it the deal of the century ?
Now what will happen in the upcoming elections in Isreal ?
What do you people think ?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israeli-politician-posts-alleged-map-trumps-deal-century
The map is not credible.
The Israeli “islands”would be indefensible.
Thus the map has to be fake news.
Oily mess……..HUGE MOVE…….
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/oil-explodes-19-higher-biggest-jump-28-years
Furthermore, in light of news that the Saudi outage could last for months, this could be just the start. As a reminder, according to Morningstar research director, Sandy Fielden, “Brent could go to $80 tomorrow, while WTI could go to $75… But that would depend on Aramco’s 48-hour update. The supply problem won’t be clear right away since the Saudis can still deliver from inventory.”
Yet while the inflationary impact from this surge will be transitory at best, it will be interesting to watch the Fed cut rates with stocks at all time highs, and with gasoline prices set for their biggest surge in decades.
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/declassified-satellite-images-reveal-it-would-take-months-fix-saudi-oil-facility
COULD TAKE MONTHS TO REPAIR>>>>>>>>
The US can also use its reserve.
That Russia wants oil at $25 makes no sense. It will deliver at as high a price as the open market dictates.
Oil is one of the few commodities in which price is related to perceived supply and demand.
Americans need to get off the con game of BIG OIL…….people need to view the content Chartster has provided……It will be a wake up call for most…….but, a lot of the info. I have been saying since 1979…….concerning alternative energy….No, BS, just Fact.
Now the sheeple can go back to sleep and get what they deserve…..for being so dumb.
1 helluva thread!
Trump Tesla connection.
https://mobile.twitter.com/1freeinhabitant/status/1099515180008955904?s=21
THANKS Chartster…………….that was a great outline……..Make sure to replay it a month from now……….Most sheep are asleep and need more info. and need to see and have repeated several times before they are caught up to speed…….jmo
I like the Nixon connection, it fits into the info George Webb has been presenting pertaining to current events…example..Comey, Mueller and Barr….MSN, is a Joke.
Funny, no one else has commented on the twitter info. provided…….
I guess , they are just busy, listening to fake news, and reading fiction books.
You mean Joe Sixpack? The guy who thinks 19 camel jocky’s did 9/11? The same guy that talks about Tom Brady’s QB rating in the first two games for the rest of the week?
Or Sally, that knows everyone by name on dancing with the stars?
Programming and conditioning.
Yep……….but, we might have some sixpacks here……… lol
China is playing dirty.
Time to ban Chinese imports.
long MBIO
Bob M say’s Israel made attack on Saudi Oilfields.http://www.321gold.com/editorials/moriarty/moriarty091619.html
Matthew, if you owned COP would you sell it after it shot up today?
MO is now yielding over 8%. Silver looks good too.
Bobs thinking might be logical, but I’m not sure I can agree with it this time.
I could be missing something,tho.
Photos show Houthis used a Qods Cruise missle and samad 3 uav’s.
Range of 1100 kms.
So, photo evidence and the Houthis claiming responsibility makes me think the Houthis did it.
https://southfront.org/gulf-war-report-houthi-strikes-shut-down-half-of-saudi-arabia-oil-production/
I think Bob’s premise most plausible…Israelis generally…and Netanyahu specifically…by FAR had the most to gain from this.
I suspect JR Ewing paid for these drones to goose the oil price.
As I said, I could be missing something, but I have watched for months as the Houthi capabilities get better and better.
Anyway, PCR agrees with Bob.
“The attack on the Saudi oil fields that Trump and Israel are blaming on Iran is almost certainly an attack by Israel. The attack is being used to start a war with Iran.”
I really dont like disagreeing with these guys, but Im going to believe my own lying eyes until proven wrong.
Israel and Netenyahu have their own problems, attacks on SA oil will not help them. SA and Israel have been working together on Iran, no value to risk that relationship right now.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck – and admits its a duck, its a duck.
And Houthis have very limited resources in a very bankrupt and war ravaged country – how do you think they are financing the price of drones, cruise missiles, arms, ammo, food for soldiers – humanitarian assistance donations? Think about it. There are big donors making this war happen, and they are not supporting Western interests. China/Russia (some EU countries too) provide weapons to Iran on credit. You want a suspect for increasing oil prices that actually can influence this issue-think Russia.
US-procured weapons have ended up in the hands of ISIS terrorists in Yemen, an investigation by Dilyana Gaytandzhieva says. The investigation is based on internal documents from two Serbian companies, which she received from anonymous sources.
The next part of the investigation includes scanned passports of US, Saudi and UAE arms dealers, as well as government officials exposing those behind the supplying of US-purchased weapons, produced in Serbia and delivered to ISIS fighters in Yemen.
The U.S. has played a significant role in arming and training isis,al nusra,hayat al shammy wammy and all the other wackoes out there for years and lets not forget the Israelis and Saudis.
Nothing says the US has not been supplying the Houthis as well.
War is a Racket and the first casualty is truth.
Where is there any HINT that either the US or Saudi acquire Quds1 missiles; let alone any hint of giving them to Houthis?
If you don’ t look for the truth, you certainly will never find it.
Thats true cfs.
And if you look for the U.S. supplying training terror groups you will find it.
Just out of interest when did we stop calling the terrorists we support freedom fighters?
I repeat again.
Here is there any evidence the Trump administration has provided Quds missiles to Houthis?
You’re blaming Trump for things the Traitor Obama did.
The as-yet unindicted Obama no longer has any power.
I think it is the same people who stole the $21 TRILLION……..look in your own back yard.
Genie Oil……..Bolton got ticked and sent in the dogs…..lol
Meet the Quds 1
https://www.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/1208062/meet-the-quds-1/
From the arms control wonk:
On September 14, several explosions rocked the Khurais oilfield as well as the Abqaiq refinery, one of Saudi Arabia’s most vital petrochemical installations. Several hours later, the Houthis claimed that they had targeted both facilities with ten drones as part of their “Balance of Deterrence” campaign.
What made this attack different from other recorded Houthi drone attacks was not only the unprecedented amount of material damage caused but also lingering doubt about the nature and the attribution of the attack. First, a video allegedly showing flying objects entering Kuwaiti airspace led to speculation that like a previous “Houthi” drone attack this strike might actually have originated in Iraq or even Iran. While the video remains unverified, the fact that the Kuwaiti government launched a probe into the issue lends some credence to the idea that something might have happened over Kuwait that day. Speculation about the origins of the attack was further fueled by a tweet by Mike Pompeo in which he claimed that there was no evidence the attacks came from Yemen.
Then the question arose whether drones had been used at all, or whether the attack might in fact have been a missile strike. Previous Houthi drone strikes against oil facilities tended to result in quite limited damage which could be an indication that a different weapons system was used this time. Indeed, Aramco came to the conclusion that its facilities were attacked by missiles. Even more curious, several pictures began to emerge on social media purportedly showing the wreckage of a missile in the Saudi desert. While the images appear real, neither the date the photos were taken nor their location can be verified. Social media users quickly claimed the images showed a crashed Iranian-made Soumar cruise missile. The Soumar and its updated version, the Hoveyzeh, are Iran’s attempts at reverse-engineering the Soviet-designed KH-55 cruise missile, several of which the country illegally imported from Ukraine in the early 2000s. Others claimed it was the Quds 1, a recently unveiled Houthi cruise missile often claimed to be a rebranded Soumar.
While at this point there are still more questions about the attack than answers, it might be a good idea to take a closer look at the Quds 1. Do the pictures in the desert actually show a Quds 1? And is the Quds 1 really just a smuggled Soumar?
The story of the Quds 1 begins in mid-June 2019, when a cruise missile fired by the Houthis hit the terminal of Abha Airport in Southern Saudi Arabia, wounding a total of 26 passengers. Not long afterwards, Saudi Arabia held a press conference showing images of the missile’s wreckage and claiming that the missile in question was an Iranian Ya Ali cruise missile. The Ya Ali is a much smaller missile than the Soumar and while the newest version of the Soumar has a range of up to 1350km, the Ya Ali’s range is limited to about 700km. With Abha airport being located only 110km from the Yemeni border, using a smaller, shorter-range system seemed to make sense. However, there was an inconsistency. The rounded wings and stabilizers shown in the Saudi presentation did not match the Ya Ali. Instead they were more reminiscent of the Soumar.
Only a few weeks later, in early July, the Houthis opened a large static display of their ballistic missile and drone arsenal. One of the surprises unveiled at the show was a cruise missile named Quds 1 (Jerusalem 1) which the Houthis claimed to have indigenously developed.
Noting the overall similarity in design with the Soumar, many observers claimed Iran had simply smuggled it to Yemen where the Houthis gave it a new paint job and a new name, as they had done before with the Qiam. Well, it turns out cruise missiles are a lot like wines or pictures of Joe Biden. At first they all appear to be the same but once you spend enough time on them, you realize there are quite a few differences. Differences between the Quds 1 and the Soumar include the entire booster design, the wing position, the Quds 1’s fixed wings, the shape of the nose cone, the shape of the aft fuselage, the position of the stabilizers and the shape of the engine cover and exhaust.
The differences in the shape of the aft fuselage and the position of the stabilizers make it clear that the wreckage in the desert is much more likely to be a Quds 1 than a Soumar.
There is yet another apparent difference between the Quds 1 and the Soumar/Hoveyzeh: size. A quick measurement using MK1 Eyeball reveals that the Quds 1 seems to be smaller in diameter than the Soumar.
But while MK1 Eyeball works fine, measuring is always a little more objective. So let’s go back to the Saudi presentation for a second. When describing the remnants of the alleged Ya Ali that hit Abha airport, the Saudis mentioned that among the wreckage they found a jet engine named TJ-100.
A quick search reveals that there indeed is a small turbojet engine called TJ100. The engine is produced by the Czech company PBS Aerospace which describes it as being especially suitable for applications in UAVs, one of its uses being the Spanish/Brazilian Diana target drone. Oh yeah, and you can also totally use it to convert your glider into a jet, which is pretty cool.
When comparing the engine seen on the Quds 1 and the TJ100 it seems pretty clear that whatever powers the Quds 1 is either a TJ100 or pretty much an exact copy of it. An engine displayed at an Iranian drone exhibition again shows stunning similarities with the TJ100, implying that Iran is producing a copy of the Czech engine for use in some of its drones.
Knowing the dimensions of the TJ100, one can precisely measure the diameter of the Quds 1. With 34cm it is significantly smaller than the Soumar, which retains the original KH-55’s diameter of 51,4cm.
However, the Qud 1’s use of a TJ100 is interesting for more reasons than just measurements. First, the fact that the Quds 1 uses the same engine type that was found in Abha makes it highly likely that the missile that hit Abha’s terminal was a Quds-1 simply mislabeled by Saudi Arabia. The Quds 1’s design also corresponds to the rounded wing and stabilizers found at the scene.
Second, knowing more details about the engine gives us some insights into the performance of the missile. Both the KH-55 and the Soumar use fuel efficient turbofan engines. The TJ100 however not only has much lower thrust than the original KH-55 engine but also is just your regular old turbojet. This leads to some questions about range. Both the missile’s smaller size and its more fuel-hungry engine make it seem unlikely it’s range would be anywhere close to the the Soumar’s/Hoveyzeh’s range of 1350km.
If the pictures showing the Quds 1 wreckage in Saudi Arabia are indeed connected to the recent Abqaiq attack, it would seem more likely that the attack originated from a place closer to Eastern Saudi Arabia than Northern Yemen – potentially Iraq, Iran or perhaps even from ships. But then again that is a big if at the current moment.
All of this leaves the question of just who developed and built the Quds 1. The idea that impoverished war-torn Yemen would be able to develop a cruise missile without any outside assistance seems far-fetched. Iran’s previous supply of missiles to the Houthis and the fact that the country uses TJ100 engines in its drone program do imply that the Iran could be behind the Quds 1.
However, so far we haven’t seen any trace of the Quds 1 in Iran proper. This riddle is not unique to the Quds 1. Beginning in 2018, several missile systems began to emerge in Yemen that while broadly similar to Iranian-designed systems have no exact Iranian equivalent. These missiles include the Badr-1P and the Badr-F precision-guided solid-fuel short range missiles
Is Iran secretly designing, testing and producing missile systems for exclusive use by its proxies? We might have to wait for Tehran Timmy to show up in Sanaa or the Donald to tweet another high-res satellite pic to find the answer.
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If the pictures showing the Quds 1 wreckage in Saudi Arabia are indeed connected to the recent Abqaiq attack, it would seem more likely that the attack originated from a place closer to Eastern Saudi Arabia than Northern Yemen – potentially Iraq, Iran or perhaps even from ships. But then again that is a big if at the current moment.
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Given the size of damage and accuracy of attack, I still maintain Iran as the most probable origination point.
Look at the map in the armscontrolwonk piece.
Swedish Rapper Calls For White People To Be Shot
“We should take them as slaves and treat them even worse.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/swedish-rapper-calls-white-people-be-shot