Impeachement: The Democrats are shooting themselves in the foot.
Big Al says, “Given the recent actions of Joe Biden in The Ukraine regarding his son, it would appear a bit hypocritical for him and the Democratic Party to attempt to impeach the President for asking the Ukrainne to simply look into Biden and his son’s actions. It would seem to me that one could accurately state that this was in the best interest of America. I read the transcript and agree with Big Al’s observations.
lHere is what Jim and I discussed this morning about this situation:
Of course Trump will not be removed from office, but whether the move backfires or not depends on the press.
I believe most of the general public are uninvolved and substantially mis-informed by the highly biased media.
Tell a lie long enough and it becomes accepted as truth.
On September 25, 2019 at 10:05 am,
OOTP says:
One caveat: no transcript was released, only a “memorandum”.
On September 25, 2019 at 10:20 am,
OOTB Jerry says:
More important are a few words in the memorandum………….
Crowdstrike…….for one….
On September 25, 2019 at 10:25 am,
OOTB Jerry says:
Ukraine and the Russians, ……are all going to be tied together…in the take down.
Ukraine are going to be tied……..to the missing blackberries…..remember hilly dnc anwan
On September 25, 2019 at 12:10 pm,
OOTB Jerry says:
Some big assumption on the writer’s part……at first glance…..
What does he say about Crowdstrike…..?
“We do a lot for Ukraine,”….and there is a lack of participation from the rest of Europe , like Germany……The writer might want to continue his assumption and read the positive side of the article…America citizens should not be contributing all the money,…..but, if , you have side deals like Biden you get rich off the taxpayers back , …living the life of a political hack……..SELF ENRICHMENT…….JMO
Two sides to every brain………
On September 25, 2019 at 12:14 pm,
OOTB Jerry says:
Maybe we should look into the rest of the article………
Tim Miller spelled out in perfect detail:
(1) Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, did take consulting work for a Ukrainian oil company, Burisma, that was under investigation by a Ukrainian prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, for the work under the prior Russian-allied regime. This is where the true part of the Trump disinformation comes to an end.
(2) The problem was that Shokin actively stood in the way of international investigations that the U.S. and other democratic reformers were pursuing.
(3) Vice President Biden, U.S. diplomats, and our E.U. allies all called on the prosecutor to be fired so the corrupt oligarchs could be investigated MORE AGGRESSIVELY. This includes the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine calling out by name Mykola Zlochevsky, the oligarch who ran the company Hunter Biden worked for, as someone this prosecutor was letting off the hook.
On September 25, 2019 at 12:23 pm,
OOTB Jerry says:
What the report is not asking………..
Trump: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike… I guess you have one of your wealthy people… The server,
On September 25, 2019 at 12:25 pm,
OOTB Jerry says:
The server, they say Ukraine has it………THE SERVER..
…is the blackberry that has been missing….under hilly and billy comey, mueller….
On September 25, 2019 at 12:28 pm,
OOTB Jerry says:
Let us get to the meat of the problem…………that has been going on for 70 yrs.
DEEP CORRUPTION ………
On September 25, 2019 at 12:34 pm,
OOTB Jerry says:
BIO on MILLER
Tim Miller
Tim Miller is a contributor to The Bulwark and a communications consultant. He previously served as senior advisor to the anti-Trump Our Principles PAC, communications director for Jeb Bush, and spokesman for the Republican National Committee.
Twitter
On September 25, 2019 at 12:36 pm,
OOTB Jerry says:
OK,,,,,,,Now we see who. Miller is and we need to get some info as to where he got his info………
On September 25, 2019 at 12:45 pm,
OOTB Jerry says:
BIg PROBLEM……….with MILLER………JEB BUSH…….., like bushy knows how to overturn an election…..lmao
All I can say is pass the popcorn. This should be very fun to watch. Yet another example of how truth is villified. I wish America would wake up to what is going on. Unfortunately most only get one side of the story.
On September 25, 2019 at 3:10 pm,
Jim M says:
Charles, can’t agree more – the talking heads attempting to justify impeachment effort is getting hilarious.
Every heard of a Soviet Fires Sack? Weak point in a defensive line allows the enemy to penetrate, right into preplanned fires. Nancy, Jerry and Shifty just found themselves deep into the targeted fire sack – no way out.
On September 25, 2019 at 4:21 pm,
David says:
Might be worthwhile to withhold judgement about impeachment as the White House does not have a sterling record of truth or veracity. In fact they have been stone walling Congress at every turn. It is obvious they hold disdain for the Constitution and the System of Checks and Balances. No one is above the Law no matter how much they assert innocence or immunity. All elected officials answer to the people and not just their base.
On September 25, 2019 at 7:57 pm,
Charles says:
You can’t argue that Biden and his son are scumbags. Not saying Trump is our savior or is not what is what is needed but I do appreciate his willingness to shed light on some very dark places.
AJ says:
A Timeline of the Trump-Ukraine Scandal
https://www.lawfareblog.com/timeline-trump-ukraine-scandal
OOTB Jerry says:
If you are going to do a time line…………you better go back…..to Hilly and the blackberry smashing…..
OOTB Jerry says:
Dems are in hot water……..some people only covering surface rust……
CFS says:
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6429033/Ukraine-transcript.pdf
CFS says:
Here is a downloadable PDFs of the transcript.
CFS says:
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6429033/Ukraine-transcript.pdf
CFS says:
Of course Trump will not be removed from office, but whether the move backfires or not depends on the press.
I believe most of the general public are uninvolved and substantially mis-informed by the highly biased media.
Tell a lie long enough and it becomes accepted as truth.
OOTP says:
One caveat: no transcript was released, only a “memorandum”.
OOTB Jerry says:
More important are a few words in the memorandum………….
Crowdstrike…….for one….
OOTB Jerry says:
Ukraine and the Russians, ……are all going to be tied together…in the take down.
Ukraine are going to be tied……..to the missing blackberries…..remember hilly dnc anwan
CFS says:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/read-the-transcript-of-trumps-call-with-the-ukraine-president/ar-AAHPnIT
CFS says:
No quid pro quo expressed or implied in the Ukraine transcript.
OOTB Jerry says:
Webb, George…………on findings…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5LEiv5euoQ
OOTB Jerry says:
Connect the Dots……..boyz………
Ebolan says:
Fececrats desperate…Uncle Joe as crooked as a dog’s hind leg.
OOTB Jerry says:
Joe has been compromised………….a long time……..
There are a LOT of PAY TO PLAY …..players, in the process of getting hooked….
Ebolan says:
Our good friends the Awans…ties back to the Fececrat Jew Wossieman-Schultz
Ebolan says:
OWL needs to interview Webb.
Ebolan says:
Hey, this KER is a repeat from yesterday.
OOTB Jerry says:
I told you yesterday, ….it would take Owl awhile to catch up….. 🙂
Ebolan says:
I think he had to put up a repeat because he had no time for a podcast today…too busy trying to line up an interview with Webb!
AJ says:
Trump to Zelensky: ‘We Do a Lot for Ukraine’
https://thebulwark.com/trump-to-zelensky-we-do-a-lot-for-ukraine/
OOTB Jerry says:
Some big assumption on the writer’s part……at first glance…..
What does he say about Crowdstrike…..?
“We do a lot for Ukraine,”….and there is a lack of participation from the rest of Europe , like Germany……The writer might want to continue his assumption and read the positive side of the article…America citizens should not be contributing all the money,…..but, if , you have side deals like Biden you get rich off the taxpayers back , …living the life of a political hack……..SELF ENRICHMENT…….JMO
Two sides to every brain………
OOTB Jerry says:
Maybe we should look into the rest of the article………
Tim Miller spelled out in perfect detail:
(1) Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, did take consulting work for a Ukrainian oil company, Burisma, that was under investigation by a Ukrainian prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, for the work under the prior Russian-allied regime. This is where the true part of the Trump disinformation comes to an end.
(2) The problem was that Shokin actively stood in the way of international investigations that the U.S. and other democratic reformers were pursuing.
(3) Vice President Biden, U.S. diplomats, and our E.U. allies all called on the prosecutor to be fired so the corrupt oligarchs could be investigated MORE AGGRESSIVELY. This includes the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine calling out by name Mykola Zlochevsky, the oligarch who ran the company Hunter Biden worked for, as someone this prosecutor was letting off the hook.
OOTB Jerry says:
What the report is not asking………..
Trump: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike… I guess you have one of your wealthy people… The server,
OOTB Jerry says:
The server, they say Ukraine has it………THE SERVER..
…is the blackberry that has been missing….under hilly and billy comey, mueller….
OOTB Jerry says:
Let us get to the meat of the problem…………that has been going on for 70 yrs.
DEEP CORRUPTION ………
OOTB Jerry says:
BIO on MILLER
Tim Miller
Tim Miller is a contributor to The Bulwark and a communications consultant. He previously served as senior advisor to the anti-Trump Our Principles PAC, communications director for Jeb Bush, and spokesman for the Republican National Committee.
Twitter
OOTB Jerry says:
OK,,,,,,,Now we see who. Miller is and we need to get some info as to where he got his info………
OOTB Jerry says:
BIg PROBLEM……….with MILLER………JEB BUSH…….., like bushy knows how to overturn an election…..lmao
james says:
Big AL Look Diss ! Joe Biden and Son ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCF9My1vBP4
Ebolan says:
Good video.
Charles says:
All I can say is pass the popcorn. This should be very fun to watch. Yet another example of how truth is villified. I wish America would wake up to what is going on. Unfortunately most only get one side of the story.
Jim M says:
Charles, can’t agree more – the talking heads attempting to justify impeachment effort is getting hilarious.
Every heard of a Soviet Fires Sack? Weak point in a defensive line allows the enemy to penetrate, right into preplanned fires. Nancy, Jerry and Shifty just found themselves deep into the targeted fire sack – no way out.
David says:
Might be worthwhile to withhold judgement about impeachment as the White House does not have a sterling record of truth or veracity. In fact they have been stone walling Congress at every turn. It is obvious they hold disdain for the Constitution and the System of Checks and Balances. No one is above the Law no matter how much they assert innocence or immunity. All elected officials answer to the people and not just their base.
Charles says:
You can’t argue that Biden and his son are scumbags. Not saying Trump is our savior or is not what is what is needed but I do appreciate his willingness to shed light on some very dark places.