Hate Speech – What is it and what is it not?

A much discussed topic today. Here is what Jim and Big Al think about it.

Comments:
  1. On January 2, 2020 at 3:03 pm,
    CFS says:

    Christianity Today editor that wrote an anti-Trump editorial is now retiring.
    The magazine will refocus back towards Graham’s philosophy.

  2. On January 2, 2020 at 3:12 pm,
    CFS says:

    I blame Obama’s polarization of the U.S.A.

    Education is now controlled predominantly by left-wing Marxists. (Of course there are exceptions) The curricula at all levels are perturbed by ideology. Civics and the Constitution is not taught. History is barely taught, except as a specialty subject.
    It concerns me greatly that we see more and more selfish self-centered behavior.

    I have never seen such behavior, which seemed to originate from lack of critical thinking:
    e.g. praise being given for mere effort instead of quality of effort.

  3. On January 2, 2020 at 3:15 pm,
    CFS says:

    Note to Big Al……I personally do not mind long discussions. My attention span and memory can cope.

  4. On January 2, 2020 at 3:20 pm,
    Matthew says:

    Hate speech is a fraud designed to shut people up. Period. Tyrants hate attention being drawn to their deeds but they can’t come right out and ban that overtly so they take an incremental Orwellian approach. It’s similar to their whittling away at property rights by forcing restaurants not to allow smoking. Such BS is not about smoking at all, it’s about getting you used to being told what you can and can’t do with your own property. The same goes for helmet and seat belt laws. It starts with things that most people don’t have a problem with but ends with total government control of every aspect of our lives.

  5. On January 2, 2020 at 3:23 pm,
    cfs says:

    Many Christians want a President that stand up for Judeo-Christian principles.

    Evangelicals are now turning en masse for Trump:
    https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2019/12/28/trumps-evangelical-rally-to-be-held-at-this-miami-megachurch/

  6. On January 2, 2020 at 3:30 pm,
    Ron says:

    If you Hate the Truth then
    the Truth is Hate Speech.
    “Logan Robertson” Missionary

    • On January 2, 2020 at 4:52 pm,
      Jim M says:

      Astute observation – and powerful statement. Thank you for sharing.

  7. On January 2, 2020 at 3:33 pm,
    cfs says:

    The Trump Foundation had made donations to Christian causes. e.g. to the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association ($100,000 in 2012), according to IRS forms posted on Guidestar.org, being the largest; but many at the $10,000 level to various Christian (not Jewish) organizations over recent years.
    (Trump’s son-in-law has made donations to Jewish organizations.)

  8. On January 2, 2020 at 3:39 pm,
    Ron says:

    no one spoke more hate speech than Jesus Christ. Look where it got him
    Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
    The publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
    For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
    But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.

  9. On January 2, 2020 at 4:00 pm,
    cfs says:

    It is unfortunate that many are unable to differentiate between “hate” and “criticism”.
    Words have meanings, but many people fail in critical thinking and analysis.

    Does “hate” not require emotional involvement ?
    Possibly thus a subjective opinion, whereas criticism tends to result more from objective opinion
    The difficulty in distinguishing lies in the inability to truly know what is in the heart of a person.

    • On January 2, 2020 at 4:46 pm,
      Jim M says:

      It is hard to for many to accept criticism, especially in a society where our children are taught never to criticize, and that all things are acceptable.

      Which takes us back to your previous point, Marxist ideology driving education. Thank God there is a back lash from Obama’s “hope and change”.

    • On January 2, 2020 at 4:50 pm,
      Jim M says:

      Our young are taught not to criticize, and not to accept criticism – all things are acceptable. Which brings us to your previous point, Marxist ideology driving education. This is Obama’s “hope and change” – thank God there is a backlash.

    • On January 2, 2020 at 5:01 pm,
      Matthew says:

      It is more unfortunate that people are gullible enough to think that Trump does not want to shut down legitimate criticism of his masters. The guy even had the audacity to assert that anti-Zionism is the same as anti-Semitism. Only complete ignoramuses believe that and, sadly, there’s no shortage of those.

      • On January 2, 2020 at 6:40 pm,
        b says:

        Big dif between a Zionist and a Jew, but thats a big part of the propaganda.

        Iran’s Top Military Commander, Qasem Suleimani, Assassinated In US Airstrike

        US targeted assassination airstrikes at Baghdad Airport take out Iran’s most senior elite military commander…reported by Zerohedge

        Tell me again how Trump is not serving Israel, maybe throw in all the evidence he isnt supporting isis too, just for fun.

        Gold looks to be moving up.
        Last year? the year before? Gold wasnt moving at all from military actions.

        Trump is awsome, he threatens all life on the planet for these sick………

        But, He makes gold holders coin anyway, that makes it all worth it.

      • On January 2, 2020 at 6:52 pm,
        cfs says:

        Do you note any inconsistency in your thoughts, Matthew ?
        On the one hand you claim Trump is controlled by Israel.
        But on the other hand you consider him ignorant of who is “controlling” him.

        • On January 2, 2020 at 6:58 pm,
          b says:

          You read Mathew wrong cfs.

          Intentional par chance?

          • On January 2, 2020 at 7:33 pm,
            Matthew says:

            You are correct, b.

          • On January 2, 2020 at 7:43 pm,
            b says:

            Me thinks there is a Zionist or two on this site Mat.

          • On January 2, 2020 at 7:47 pm,
            Matthew says:

            Seems like it, doesn’t it?

          • On January 2, 2020 at 7:48 pm,
            cfs says:

            It is more unfortunate that people are gullible enough to think that Trump does not want to shut down legitimate criticism of his masters. The guy even had the audacity to assert that anti-Zionism is the same as anti-Semitism.
            I read it as:
            Trump wants to shut down criticism of his masters.
            Trump is too stupid to understand exactly who his masters are and what they really want.

            How exactly did I misread ?

          • On January 2, 2020 at 7:56 pm,
            Matthew says:

            Yes, he would like to shut down criticism IF he could get away with it politically. Nowhere did I imply that he is too stupid to know who they are. That’s ridiculous. He’s a very willing and seemingly happy servant.

          • On January 2, 2020 at 8:36 pm,
            b says:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW4CvC5IaFI

            Heres a bit of Trumps connection to Zionists.

          • On January 2, 2020 at 11:22 pm,
            cfs says:

            Guilt by association ?

            Exactly how many big banks are there in New York that are not controlled by Jews ?
            Historically banking has been an Occupation that notoriously attracted them. Shylocks were well in control in the 16th century, although the first Jewish Bankers came across with William the Conqueror.
            Trump simply borrowed money from where he could borrow it.

          • On January 3, 2020 at 8:56 am,
            b says:

            There are 4 vids where you find that 1.
            If you watch that one, they tell you why they want Trump.

            Then recall Addelson and his 100 million to Trump, what was his reason?
            Who is Trump working for?

            I find it hilarious people cant see or refuse to see Trump works for Israel, what was the attack on the Iranian? No consultation with congress before hand, not that it would matter, congress is loaded with Israelis anyway.

          • On January 3, 2020 at 9:06 am,
            cfs says:

            The fact that the opportunity window for killing solieman (sp?) was very short.
            The fact that Iran is responsible for killing over 600 American soldiers via IEDs’
            and that this leader of Quds devised the import of IEDs into Iraq
            is apparently irrelevant, I suppose.
            (Not to mention Congress leaks information like a sieve.)

          • On January 3, 2020 at 9:13 am,
            cfs says:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qasm0iuoy7k

            Too bad, so sad. LOL…….you’re right it is hilarious. (sarcastically said)

          • On January 3, 2020 at 9:33 am,
            cfs says:

            One way to start the New Year with a Big Bang !

            Of course, Iran will retaliate or attempt to.
            But then Iran has had an un-declared war against the US since Jimmy Carter days.

          • On January 3, 2020 at 9:38 am,
            b says:

            Here is a radical thought.
            How about the yanks just go home?

            O, who was it that murdered 500k children in Iraq? I forget, who was it that dropped white phosphorus on Mosal and Raqqa? I forget.
            Who was it that overthrew the democratically elected government in 1953 and replaced it with a torturing dictator?

            Good grief, the yanks are pure evil and they are lead by greatest evil of all , zionists.

            The Zionists worship satan, they wish to enslave ALLLL the goy and the christians love to call them selves “christians for Israel” its hilarious.

            Being rational, we have to put faith and hope in Iran,Russia and China to stop the americans nuking the planet.
            Thank goodness we have some intelligent opposition to the americans working for humanity.

          • On January 3, 2020 at 9:45 am,
            Matthew says:

            CFS, your understanding of things is based on an awful lot of lies, that much has always been clear. Maybe if you had 90 more years you’d figure that out.

          • On January 3, 2020 at 10:15 am,
            cfs says:

            Matthew, did you ever think to wonder why Soeimani flew to Bagdad ?

            You are surely not thinking he was a religious cleric or something !

            I hope he is enjoying his virgins.

          • On January 3, 2020 at 10:33 am,
            Matthew says:

            My comment had nothing to do with current events. I don’t know or care why he was there.

          • On January 3, 2020 at 10:49 am,
            Matthew says:

            CFS, my comment was based on years of observation and had nothing to do with current events. I do not know or care why he was there and you don’t know either.

          • On January 3, 2020 at 12:19 pm,
            Robert Moriarty says:

            CFS:

            You are always good for a laugh. You could have been a professional comedian. I read this above from you and just about choked with the irony.

            “I have never seen such behavior, which seemed to originate from lack of critical thinking:e.g. praise being given for mere effort instead of quality of effort.”

            I only know of a few others posting on this board who even come close to you in their inability to conduct critical thinking. You, Jim M and big Al are monuments to propaganda and demonstrate an utter inability to think for yourself, no matter what the subject.

            Jim M still thinks Afghanistan was worth doing when even the Washington Post finally woke up and pointed out that the press and the government lied about everything.. One can hope he will shed the blinders one day.

          • On January 3, 2020 at 4:50 pm,
            b says:

            Of course Afghanistan was/is worth it.
            We get to support isis big time and heck, all that heroin has got to be worth billions.

            Just a matter of perspective.

          • On January 3, 2020 at 5:51 pm,
            Matthew says:

            The power of propaganda:

            “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”
            ― Voltaire

  10. On January 2, 2020 at 4:19 pm,
    CFS says:

    An opinion from a Christian commentator:

    https://youtu.be/XnrXFwR6kuk?t=161

  11. On January 2, 2020 at 6:55 pm,
    CFS says:
  12. On January 2, 2020 at 7:01 pm,
    CFS says:

    Hadi Al Amiri led the attack on the Bagdad Embassy:

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/iraqi-official-spotted-outside-embassy-attack-visited-obama-white-house-in-2011

    And you still don’t think Obama is a traitor ?