Big Al’s understanding of The Middle Eastern situaton

Your almost have to be a PhD historian to fully comprehend the political environment in The Middle East

Comments:
  1. On January 8, 2020 at 9:20 pm,
    cfs says:

    The 1953 coup was not Israel inspired….it was part of a Middle East coming of age and seizing power.
    If the Iran coup was Israel inspired, then you would have to explain the Suez crisis, in which Egypt seized the canal in the mid fifties; clearly NOT Israel inspired.

    • On January 9, 2020 at 6:35 am,
      Robert Moriarty says:

      CFS:

      If you want to defeat any “enemy” you must first understand where they are coming from. While JM would like to credit the revolution in 1979 as a turning point, in fact every Iranian would immediately say, no, the overthrow of our democratically elected government in 1953 started everything. It is obtuse to suggest it goes back to ancient times. 1953 was important and a key point.

      CFS you need to stop advertising your ignorance. No one has suggested Israel had anything to do with the coup. Iran nationalized BP oil, the UK had been milking Iran’s oil for years and the suggestion they were doing it for the benefit of Iranians is beyond stupid. They were raping the country. And after WW II many countries and territories wanted independence. It happened in India and many countries in Africa so there was nothing new in iran. It was their oil and they wanted to control it and I agree.

      The Brits went to Dulles (both of them) and begged the US to stage a coup. The CIA was just starting to realize they had a hidden and literally unlimited budget and equally unlimited power. So they staged a coup, overthrew the government and brought in their own stooge while blaming the nasty “commies” as was so popular. It’s similar to the demonization today of Russia with Putin blamed for everything from crop failures to global warming to the Patriot’s losing at football.

      Even Truman eventually came to realize the monster he gave birth to. “I never would have agreed to the formulation of the Central Intelligence Agency back in forty-seven, if I had known it would become the American Gestapo.”

      Iran was another test bed for illegal coups all of which gave the CIA more money and more power. They went on to Guatemala, Syria, Indonesia, Lebanon, Iraq, Congo, Laos, Vietnam, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Brazil, Chile, Bolivia, Cambodia, Pakistan and eventually since all of the coups had been so successful, the CIA and FBI determined to try it in the US.

      The Shah was a monster hated by the Iranian people. Tens of thousands of Iranians were tortured and or murdered if the Shah’s secret police thought they were a threat. The 1979 revolution was religious in nature more because there was no other group that could centralize power. I won’t say for a moment that I am in favor of the Mullah’s running the country, I am not. But they are a lot better than the Shah was.

      The Iranians are wonderful people who would love the United States if the US would stop attacking them. The Yinon Plan advocated war against Iran in 1982, the “Clean Break” advocated war against Iran in 1996. The PNAC advocated war against Iran in 1990, Wesley Clark was briefed on pentagon plans to attack and destroy seven countries in five years. He was briefed just after 911.

      None of the seven were any threat to the US. All of the attacks made things worse. WE have as many refugees in the world today as after WW II. Iraq has turned into a corrupt shit hole, you can buy slaves in downtown Bengazi now, Libya is another shit hole. Tens of thousands of peaceful Iranians have died because of the sanctions

      Thank you Neocons. On behalf of those who control you, you have turned the entire middle east into a shit hole. Guys like JM can’t figure out who did it or why turning countries into shit holes is bad idea. On the other hand the CMIC is more powerful than they have ever been and the paychecks are great.

      • On January 9, 2020 at 7:29 am,
        Matthew says:

        “Thank you Neocons. On behalf of those who control you, you have turned the entire middle east into a shit hole.”

        That’s exactly what the idiot neocons have done.

        • On January 9, 2020 at 9:51 am,
          Al Korelin says:

          Opinions like yours, Matthew, are providing me with a valuable education. I am not saying that I agree with you or not, I am simply saying that I appreciate all of you making me stop and think.

      • On January 9, 2020 at 7:35 am,
        Ebolan says:

        Guys like JM can’t figure out who did it or why turning countries into shit holes is bad idea.

        He can see it no other way. Jimmy’s been in the belly of the beast his entire adult life. His sustenance came from the belly of the beast and still does.

        The only thing that might change all this warmongering is a total economic collapse.

        Don’t expect anything to come from Boobus Americanus…

        Poll: Fewer Than 1 in 4 Americans Can Identify Iran on a Map, Some Think it’s in America
        https://www.mediaite.com/politics/poll-fewer-than-1-in-4-americans-can-identify-iran-on-a-map-some-think-its-in-america/

        • On January 9, 2020 at 8:17 am,
          Jim M says:

          Ebolan, the Middle East has been a $#it hole before America and Neocons existed. But those who have a complete mistrust in America and conspiracy theory about everything are blind to that simple fact.

          Islam, Persians, Arabs gave the world a lot of things historically, but about 500 years ago their faith in Islam stopped their growth. Reformation never happened, and the West began to far outpace their limited positives. Now the anger and desire to relive past greatness, using religion as a tool, want to turn history back. Ain’t gonna happen, but extremists will keep killing and fomenting hate to try.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 8:19 am,
            Jim M says:

            A reformation in Islam never happened, I mean. Reformation in the West did happen – why the growth in free markets, free ides and human progress.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 8:35 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Jimmy, the bankers are your best friend……..keeps everyone in denial ………
            I posted a great cartoon a couple of days ago……you should watch it…, might give you a whole new way of thinking……..JMO…… no disrespect intended……….JOOTB

          • On January 9, 2020 at 8:40 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Here is the posts………….JUST WATCH THE CARTOON…..forget the article.
            On January 5, 2020 at 9:43 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:
            This is all you need to know about the administration of the USA.
            https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/understanding-keys-power
            Watch the cartoon………….

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          • On January 9, 2020 at 8:40 am,
            Ebolan says:

            Ebolan, the Middle East has been a $#it hole before America and Neocons existed.

            Then why are we wasting trillions there? The US taxpayer should have no dog in that fight. In case you haven’t noticed the country is over $22 trillion in debt, adding to that at over a trillion a year and has hundreds of trillions of unfunded liabilities.

            We simply can’t afford to waste a single penny there. But instead we waste tens of billions more every month. All this warmongering is just another Big Goooberment program that turns to sh*t.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 8:53 am,
            Robert Moriarty says:

            David Stockman is one of the few guys associated with government who I actually trust when they talk about economics. Contrary to the blather coming from the robots working for the CMIC and vote their paychecks, he actually thinks about what we have done.

            The Donald’s Assassination Of General Soleimani—As Stupid As It Gets

            http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/the-donalds-assassination-of-general-soleimani-as-stupid-as-it-gets/

          • On January 9, 2020 at 10:24 am,
            Big Al says:

            Facts and facts and opinions are opinions, Bob!

          • On January 9, 2020 at 8:57 am,
            Matthew says:

            Sure, Jim, the place was full of depleted uranium before the neocons, wasn’t it? “Killing and fomenting hate” are things the neocons do very well.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 10:22 am,
            Big Al says:

            Yes, they certainly do that well Matthew. I simply know that Jim is not what I would call a neocon!

          • On January 9, 2020 at 9:57 am,
            Al Korelin says:

            In my, in this case “educated opinion”, thanks for the comment regarding religious reformation. A fact and not an opinion.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 10:22 am,
            CFS says:

            That is succinctly stating what I have been trying to get into the brains of anti-US critics for years.

            The problem with Islam is intolerance and needed for a Reformation.
            Christianity had the same problem until Martin Luther.
            And reformation did not come easily…..Latimer, Cranmer, Ridley….etc.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 10:38 am,
            Robert Moriarty says:

            JM:

            Sorry world, yes we killed a wedding party with fifty kids and women and then raped all the dogs but it was a shit hole before American and the Neocons existed.

            Great reason for killing people Jim M. You must be very proud of yourself.

            This is going to come as a real shock but it’s their shit hole and its really up to them to figure out what to do with it. We have a shit hole of our own created by a CMIC that believes they are better and smarter than everyone else in the world.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 11:16 am,
            Big Al says:

            Did you ever kill anyone when you proudly served as the youngest fighter pilot in Viet Nam. Just asking

          • On January 9, 2020 at 11:20 am,
            Big Al says:

            Bob, I cannot let this go. That is an absolutely asinine comment. Not the Moriarty I used to know.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 11:54 am,
            Robert Moriarty says:

            Al:

            There are times you ask some silly questions. If I was the oldest or the youngest fighter pilot in Vietnam it would have nothing to do with me killing people. Just as a matter of fact, the Marines didn’t have an air-to-air role in the war and no Marine flying a USMC aircraft ever shot down an enemy aircraft.

            I only flew one air-to-air mission but I did fly 831 air to ground missions. Yes on a daily basis people shot at me and on a daily basis I shot back. I would point out that I would have to be the most incompetent combat pilot in history if I didn’t kill some of those shooting at me. 832 missions in a fixed wing aircraft is a record for the US military.

            I was in country for almost two years and that gave me a chance to reflect on what we were doing. I saw us take the same hill again and again and I realized there was no way we could ever win. Most people in the military and certainly not Jim M ever do that, reflect on what they have done. He can’t even figure out Afghanistan was a loser’s game and that’s really easy to see.

            In a war it’s important to kill the people you need to kill and even more important to not kill the people you should avoid killing. Killing people just because you can is how people lose wars. The world as well as the US has been worse off because of every single war we have fought in the last two decades. We have brought death and destruction in every case.

            Something terrible has happened to the country where constant war is not only accepted but demanded. What church preaches “Blessed be the warmongers” as message. Jesus wasn’t the prince of war, he was the Prince of Peace but how often have you spoken out against any act of war? If you ever had, I must have missed it.

            There are a bunch of people who wish they hadn’t shot at me, it’s a really bad idea. You and Jim and CFS babbling on about how bad the Muslims were because of the lack of Reformation is quite interesting. If you look at the history of the Catholics and the Protestants during the middle ages well into the 19th century, They did some pretty evil stuff. No religion is without blood on their hands as a result of ignorance. I look at the Evangelical “christians” today and shudder. They would have been home with Torquemada.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 12:33 pm,
            Matthew says:

            “In the centuries before 19th- and 20th-century Western imperialism, Jew and Arab had always lived well and peacefully together in the Middle East. There is no inherent enmity or conflict between Arab and Jew. In the great centuries of Arab civilization in North Africa and Spain, Jews took a happy and prominent part…” — Murray Rothbard

            So what changed everything? It’s pretty clear but I’ll let you decide.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 1:22 pm,
            Robert Moriarty says:

            Matthew:

            You forgot all about the Christians. There were lots of Christians living in Palestine in the 18th and 19th centuries. In peace with their Muslim and Jewish neighbors.

        • On January 9, 2020 at 8:31 am,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          E……I thought that 1 in 4 was funny as hell……..great minds think alike,….I posted the same yesterday , glad to see it in other publications. More people need to read some of the great stuff we post……….lol……. 🙂

          • On January 9, 2020 at 8:42 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            On January 8, 2020 at 6:41 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:
            Funny as hell……….75% of the voters can not find Iran on a map………..
            https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/75-registered-voters-cant-identify-iran-map

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          • On January 9, 2020 at 8:43 am,
            Ebolan says:

            I originally saw that from your comment.

            I’d laugh but it is too depressing. We are a nation of ignoramuses ruled by criminals.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 9:10 am,
            Jim M says:

            Yes, funny – I’ve been living it in many places – seen it many ways. And this is why I have avoided running for office, I hate the idea of being beholden to anyone.

            But also why I support Trump – and why so many hate him- he is taking keys away from many of the old loyalists to the system.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 10:20 am,
            Big Al says:

            Great comment based on absolute fact, Jimmy!

          • On January 9, 2020 at 9:36 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Jimmy…………you might be privy , to the people he has taken the keys away from, but, could you share some facts and figures as to the replacement of those old loyalist….
            thanks……….We might be more in tune with your thinking if, some solid evidence could be provide…………respectfully…………..JOOTB

          • On January 9, 2020 at 10:02 am,
            Big Al says:

            Thanks OOTB. I will discuss this with Jimmy shortly.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 9:38 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            provided……

        • On January 9, 2020 at 9:54 am,
          Al Korelin says:

          I appreciate your agreeing with me on the general knowledge of the average American. As Shakespeare said: “There’s the rub”.

          My personal rub is that I continue to become more and more aware of the other side of the story.

      • On January 9, 2020 at 8:56 am,
        Jim M says:

        Robert, I agree, many Iranians do like America, but not all. Iranian leaders are using the same propaganda and military power to control their people that you say is controlling Americans.

        Basic question? Does the US always work to dominate, or work for conditions for self rule – democracy? America gave back colonial possessions – long ago.

        America could own the world – it doesn’t. The first nation in history that had the power and didn’t take advantage of it. Communists dictators tried – they failed because we fought a long cold war – worth fighting my friend, in spite of your disgust of the methods to win it, and your participation in it.

        Now the world is in a funky place, Obama gave up leadership, Bush used the power mistakenly, and fell into the trap – Trump is left with the mess. There must be a balance between reality of that mess and total withdrawal – but in the end, it has to be about protecting US interests above all others. That’s what Trump was elected to do. It seems to be working, but it takes a long time to undo the legacy of failures.

        • On January 9, 2020 at 9:14 am,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          Jimmy………I think you need to re read your comments……….
          America could own the world – it doesn’t. The first nation in history that had the power and didn’t take advantage of it

          • On January 9, 2020 at 9:15 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Petrodollar………gold standard Nixon………..hummm

          • On January 9, 2020 at 10:18 am,
            Big Al says:

            Jerry, I have been saying “Hmmm” for a long time.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 10:19 am,
            Big Al says:

            Thanks for being somewhat supportive, OOTB.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 10:24 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Iron sharpening Iron………….OWL……….

          • On January 9, 2020 at 11:22 am,
            Big Al says:

            I believe that you are absolutely correct, OOTB

        • On January 9, 2020 at 10:24 am,
          Big Al says:

          Great comment Jim, Thank you

        • On January 9, 2020 at 12:23 pm,
          Robert Moriarty says:

          Jim M;

          I wonder just what world you live in where the US is better than any other country and so exceptional that we should plan attacks on seven countries in five years and then complain that they are defending themselves.

          If you were an Iranian general and in 2001 were told the US intended to go to war against you, would you defend your country? Please take note that we lied our way into every one of those wars. We claimed to be doing it for the greater good but only one country saw any benefit. George Bush even joked about WMD at the WH Correspondents dinner. “What no WMD here. None here” as he pretended to look under a chair. Naturally all the correspondents laughed. They knew we went to war on a mountain of lies. And hundreds of thousands of Iraqis died. You still think it was a great idea.

          Since you think the US is so wonderful at bringing peace and prosperity to the world perhaps you will comment on this.

          Leslie Stahl of 60 Minutes was interviewing Madeline Albright, Secretary of State. It’s worth noting that on 60 Minutes, Albright made no attempt to deny the figure given by Stahl–a rough rendering of the preliminary estimate in a 1995 U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) report that 567,000 Iraqi children under the age of five had died as a result of the sanctions.

          LS: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

          MA: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price–we think the price is worth it.

          What do you think Jim? What was worth the deaths of 567,000 children under the age of five?

          Is that what the US now stands for? Is that what you stand for?

          • On January 9, 2020 at 1:38 pm,
            Jim M says:

            Optimism, versus pessimism. You appear to be angry, possibly one who hates the country for which you fought, and think you know better than everyone else – a pessimist to say the least.

            Yes the US government, all sides of the isle, has made mistakes. But go live in Iran, bitch about the Ayatollah and tell me what happens. Go live and China and complain about CCP policy. Go live in Russia, write a negative article about Putin. Maybe go pay some European taxes, subsidizing the slackers riding the gravy train.

            I lived in former Soviet Georgia, Albania, Philippines, Korea, UK, Germany, Slovenia, Kuwait, in Afghanistan, Middle East, South/Central America, Africa – served in many more countries – they all suck in some ways, are wonderful in others. But…

            Tell me where there is more opportunity to succeed, and more opportunity to complain about the weaknesses of the system, without retribution, than in the US. I haven’ found it.

            To imply I support the mistakes and death of anyone but those that take it from others for political or criminal acts, and using those mistakes to attack my optimism, is a fools argument. I don’t, never have. But I recognize the world is complicated – and it don’t get better by disengaging and thinking it will all just go away.

            Its like living in the hood, improving your house, storing some gold, drive a Benz and thinking no one will eventually rob you. Human nature seems to imply without morals, laws and a method to enforce them, people screw each other over pretty fast.

            People, bankers, investment advisors, politicians take from others, lie about it, and then bitch about the system and people from which they steal.

            I don’t take from people. I don’t invest others money for profit, nor recommend investments for profit.

            How many people have you advised and then cheated? What about Vancouver markets? Tell me how that works? People bitch endlessly about the system that they use for personal advantage. Great guilt, or just evil? Don’t throw accusations at my moral character without taking a look at your own.

            And by the way, most real Iranian Generals were purged after the 1979 Revolution – I knew one. If one took a stand against the revolution, or spoke out about the rulers, you were killed. Do it in America, you get a CNN contract.

            Your arguments are weak, and projection seems strong.

            One thing you are right about – these places need to sort themselves out. Not our place – but there are US interests that we need to protect – and we can’t walk away without paying a price eventually. 1910 to 1916 US tried it – and failed. We tried again in 1935-1941 – that got us a long way too. Sept 11, or course conspiracy theorists and idiots forget facts, make some of their own up, and say it was an inside job.

            In spite of the hyperbolic claims, the world is safer today than it ever has been for the largest percentage of the population. Not because of China, Russia, Middle East or Europe, but because of US willingness to act to make it that way, in spite of mistakes.

            Allowing evil to grow outside our borders will not stop it, it will grow stronger – history has proven it over, and over and over again.

            And one last point in this diatribe – going back 70 (1953) years for justification for Iranian actions today is foolish. Almost all Iranian adults from that time are dead – someone has to teach/preach that hate to carry it forward. I would be like teaching Americans to hate the Japanese and Germans for 1941 – it don’t happen here, Haus.

            I believe in America, and the Constitution, in spite of its weaknesses – I am an optimist.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 3:23 pm,
            Ebolan says:

            Optimism, versus pessimism. You appear to be angry, possibly one who hates the country for which you fought, and think you know better than everyone else – a pessimist to say the least.

            Our rulers have been sunk in the swamp of Afghanistan for 20 years. And sunk in the swamp of Iraq for 16 years. That is not pessimism that is FACT and if people like you have their way it will be 20 more years.

            Nothing succeeds like failure in the District of Criminals. And you continue to cheer lead more of the same.

            You can love your country but hate the government and if you don’t hate the government you are on the take or a brainwashed sheeple.

          • On January 10, 2020 at 2:47 am,
            Robert Moriarty says:

            Jim M:

            Yes I am angry. I am angry at the thousands of American kids who died for Israel in meaningless wars while those who could have stood up and said that it was wrong did nothing.

            If you think you have done such a wonderful job for 20 years, you really owe it to yourself to move to Afghanistan or Iraq or Libya. Feel free to tell them what a wonderful job you did for Israel. They will be thrilled to hear it.

            We only have a few voices who stand up and for certain you are not in that group. Here is the best. You absolutely could learn from her. She is defending the Constitution. You aren’t.

            Tulsi Gabbard: Wake Up And Smell Our $6.4 Trillion Wars

            https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/why-is-tulsi-the-only-democrat-who-cares-about-our-wars/

      • On January 9, 2020 at 9:44 am,
        Al Korelin says:

        You certainly do have interesting opinions and I appreciate you sharing them on this site.

      • On January 9, 2020 at 10:13 am,
        cfs says:

        I happen to substantially agree with you, Mr. Moriarty.
        The difference being that I don’t necessarily call CIA actions US government policy.
        The Deep State, including the CIA seems to have displayed a will of their own, which neither Congress or Presidents have chosen (or been able to control)
        E.g. assassination of JFK ?
        I take Ike’s admonition about the MIC more as an anti CIA admonition than regular military. (Perhaps Ike did not have the guts to specifically label the CIA as dangerous…..I don’t know.)

        We have certainly had a recent display of just a few individuals in the FBI and CIA being able to impede Trump.

        • On January 9, 2020 at 11:07 am,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          CIA AND GOVT are in bed together……..better look at the players…..since 1947

          • On January 9, 2020 at 11:08 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            MORE GEORGE WEBB will do the trick…….. 🙂

        • On January 9, 2020 at 11:34 am,
          Robert Moriarty says:

          CFS:

          I hate to agree with you CFS but yes, the CIA is really independent of the rest of the government and they make their own policies. Many times presidents have no clue as to what the CIA is doing. While it is central to the CMIC, all of those involved have their own rice bowl to protect just as Jim M keeps the blinders on when the flaws of 20 years of constant war become more apparent every day.

          And to give you full credit you were the first to see that that 737 was probably shot down by the Iranians by accident.

          US increasingly believes Iran accidentally shot down Ukraine plane

          https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/iran-plane-crash-investigation/index.html

          • On January 9, 2020 at 12:48 pm,
            Matthew says:

            Is it a coincidence that the CIA came into existence on the same day that the Department of Defense replaced the Department of War? Considering all the aggressive and undeclared wars since, that seems like quite an Orwellian switch of names.

    • On January 9, 2020 at 9:40 am,
      Al Korelin says:

      I agree with you CFS, I do not believe that it was inspired by any county other that GB.

  2. On January 8, 2020 at 9:28 pm,
    cfs says:

    Much of the Middle East was occupied during WWII, in order to exploit oil and keep Germans from getting access to oil. In the fifties was when many countries were kicking out foreign occupation. Abyssinia/Ethiopia, Libya, Iraq, Kuwait and finally Algeria all kicked out occupying countries. Iran was just part of that.

    • On January 9, 2020 at 9:26 am,
      Rufust445 says:

      Speaking of 1953, 1952 was the last year the US was completely self-sufficient in oil. Imported oil to the US was just a trickle for the rest of the ’50’s, but by 1959, domestic oil companies pretty abandoned drilling and exploration in this country. With the reports of all the discoveries in the Persian Gulf coming in, they moved their efforts there. Things got crazy in the ’60’s as those wells in the Persian Gulf started coming in, creating a glut of cheap oil. The U.S. became so dependent on imported oil, that a cutoff of that supply, as in the Oil Embargo of 1974, put the economy in a shambles. A reduction in oil supply during Iran’s revolution led to the recession of 1980.

      Some of the people involved in the planning of Iran’s revolution in 1979 remembered the 1953 coup, and still had their noses out of joint over it.

      It’s all about oil, all the way back to Pearl Harbor

      • On January 9, 2020 at 10:06 am,
        Big Al says:

        Thanks Rufus. As Dr. Paul said to me emphatically years ago, “It’s all about the oil”!

        • On January 9, 2020 at 10:16 am,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          I thought I told you that……….. 🙂

        • On January 9, 2020 at 2:28 pm,
          Rufust445 says:

          And another thing, which I’ve just thought of, was Winston Churchill’s second term, during which the AIOC nationalization occurred. The nationalization occurred in March, 1951. Churchill had a stroke in June, 1953, which forced him to step down as PM. The coup occurred in August, 1953. Churchill had already suffered a LOT of stress during WWII, and didn’t tend much to his health, as evidenced in the film Darkest Hour. The stress from debate and negotiation over the oil nationalization may have been the straw that broke the camel’s back.

          It’s all about oil, all the way back to Pearl Harbor.

  3. On January 8, 2020 at 9:43 pm,
    cfs says:

    Balfour’s name is attached to the founding of Israel, because England was a world power at the time, but it was NOT to get Jews out of England; not many left England. It was a League of Nations decision. It was to give the Jews a homeland, after what had happened to Jews on Continental Europe during World War II. If England had wanted to get rid of Jews, you have to explain why it accepted millions of Jews during the thirties.
    There was a bias and hatred against Jews in Europe in the thirties…..that specifically is what allowed Hitler to get away with atrocities. English bias was nothing new as it had existed in varying degrees since the 1300s, but it was not as bad as the German hatred that was whipped up when fear of even association with a Jew could get you sent to a camp.

  4. On January 8, 2020 at 10:16 pm,
    Chartster says:

    I’m glad the 1953 coup is finally recogninized (besides me bringing it up every time!) and the Balfour agreement that was a multi-pronged-approach, to destabilize the Middle East. It was the beginning of (the wars we trained for, for years before)the wars in the desert that we always “knew” would happen (because we’de start them) that we would somehow try to explain how to get it finished (without blowing a gaskit)..in an honorable way..

    The fact is, we need to come to grips that 9/11 and all the bs happenings (fake and false and controlled demolitions) were controlled by the cabal. And we baught that crap hook-line and sinker!

    Now things have changed! The sheep have woke the F up.
    Hind sight-2020

    • On January 9, 2020 at 7:50 am,
      Matthew says:

      The sheep have not woken up and you’re part of the mountain of proof. How are you so good at fooling yourself?

      • On January 9, 2020 at 10:55 am,
        Chartster says:

        Donald Trump has awoken the masses to the criminality of our government structure. How in the hell is that fooling myself? It’s quite evident that he’s waking up the masses. I could list many factual things that have happened and is happening.
        You’re just too jaded to acknowledge any of it, because it doesn’t fit your warped outlook (that you are completely wrong about)
        Good luck riding that warped outlook. As Trump exposes everyone😏

        • On January 9, 2020 at 11:00 am,
          Big Al says:

          I completely agree with you about Trump, but Matthew has some great ideas that don’t fall into the category of being warped!

        • On January 9, 2020 at 12:55 pm,
          Matthew says:

          Jaded is the wrong word, sonny. I can’t join you in your wild-eyed foolishness because I’ve had the misfortune of losing some of my ignorance. Hope is a great thing when warranted but misplaced hope can be very dangerous.

  5. On January 9, 2020 at 12:01 am,
    cfs says:

    If as you say all the wars happened because of the American Industrial Complex wanting to make money, how do you explain other European countries going along as allies of America and also fight the wars? (Not Vietnam but all the Middle East wars.) They do not gain financially from e.g. fighting in Iraq. (Indeed more Brits killed than Americans if I remember correctly.)
    Why did The U.S. not come to help France and England fighting Egypt over seizure of the Suez canal?
    You blame Israel and the MIC for U.S. wars, but the totality of the facts don’t neatly all fit that belief if you take into account allied support.

    • On January 9, 2020 at 7:51 am,
      Matthew says:

      Re: “… how do you explain other European countries going along as allies of America and also fight the wars?”

      You really don’t know your history at all.

      • On January 9, 2020 at 10:01 am,
        cfs says:

        Criticisms tend not to add much to the dialog.
        What, specifically, do you think I do not know ?
        Are you trying to say allies just went along because they are allies, or are you trying to say they were fooled by lies ?
        It is hard to have any conversation without specific points made, rather than claiming my ignorance.
        How do you explain lack of U.S, support for British or French loss of Suez canal, which they had built under treaties and paid cost in gold and lives. (If as you claim the US MIC always wants to go to war ?) Nasser was a fairly ruthless military dictator in Egypt, hardly US fighting against a democracy.)

  6. On January 9, 2020 at 12:06 am,
    cfs says:

    Even Canada and poor Poland fought alongside the U.S. in some of the Middle East Wars.
    What have they got to gain, if they weren’t fighting because they thought the wars correct.

  7. On January 9, 2020 at 6:12 am,
    cfs says:

    Meanwhile the general transportation strike in France goes into 36th day and Yellow Jacket protests continue every weekend.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veUbgmXa6tE
    Is this going to happen in the US when our social security system runs into trouble?

  8. On January 9, 2020 at 6:30 am,
    OOTB Jerry says:
    • On January 9, 2020 at 6:31 am,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      Problem…………………..
      He explained that the U.S. feels threatened by China’s ascension to become a global superpower, and a great power competition was underway.

      • On January 9, 2020 at 6:32 am,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        Jia said a “whole deal” might not be likely, considering the Trump administration wants “to topple the Chinese government and contain China simultaneously.”

      • On January 9, 2020 at 10:39 am,
        cfs says:

        Zerohedge does not always get it right.
        If you listen carefully to Trump, he distinguishes between China become a major power, and China becoming a major power by stealing American intellectual property.
        Trump knows the U.S. CANNOT produce ordinary goods as cheaply as China, and thus it is by designing advanced products and food goods that the U.S. can compete.
        China, on the other hand, has gotten used to forced theft of American know-how, and is reluctant to lose that.

        • On January 9, 2020 at 10:44 am,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          The dump ass large corporations , got greedy …..they knew the game before they went in ….they were willing to give up the intellectual rights….for the huge amount of potential gain……

          • On January 9, 2020 at 10:47 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Professor………You ever owned a business……..

          • On January 9, 2020 at 10:55 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            China not going to buy the GMO foods either, once the middle class Chinese realize they are being poisoned……Large corporate Farms…..who owns the largest farms in America., not little mom and pop, they are being put out of business on a daily bases.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 11:03 am,
            Big Al says:

            Of course, Jerry, “Mom and Pop farmers” are being put out of business every single day. YOU HAVE MADE ME STOP AND THINK ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF GMO AND I AM GOING TO SERIOUSLY STUDY THE PROS AND CONS OF THIS CONCEPT.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 11:11 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Owl……..good for you…….and once you learn……..pass it on……….
            Indiana is in the thick of the GMO mess……and has been for a long time…..

        • On January 9, 2020 at 11:15 am,
          Big Al says:

          I would imagine that China is fine with “forced theft of American know-how”

    • On January 9, 2020 at 9:13 am,
      Jim M says:

      The US and western civilization is threatened by China. Who will rule if they continue to grow, CCP or ?

      • On January 9, 2020 at 9:20 am,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        I think the top corporations……..starting in 95……(read the World is Flat)
        with shipping all the manufacturing off shore…..Let the Chinese get the upper hand.
        Walmart certainly helped also……….

        • On January 9, 2020 at 9:24 am,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          Summary
          In his book The World Is Flat, Friedman recounts a journey to Bangalore, India, when he realized globalization has changed core economic concepts.[3] In his opinion, that flattening is a product of the convergence of the personal computer with fiber optic microcable with the rise of work flow software. Friedman termed the period Globalization 3.0, thereby differentiating it from the previous, Globalization 1.0, during which countries and governments were the main protagonists, and Globalization 2.0, during which multinational companies led the way in driving global integration.

          Friedman recounts many examples of companies based in India and China that, by providing labor ranging from that of typists and call center operators to accountants and computer programmers, have become integral parts of complex global supply chains; such companies are Dell, AOL, and Microsoft. Friedman’s capitalist peace theory called Dell Theory of Conflict Prevention is discussed in the book’s penultimate chapter.

          Friedman repeatedly uses lists as organizational devices to communicate key concepts, usually numbered and often with provocative labels. Two example lists are the ten forces that flattened the world, and three points of convergence

          • On January 9, 2020 at 10:08 am,
            Big Al says:

            Thanks for this comment CFS. It is certainly one that I agree with.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 10:14 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            OWL……..I am not CFS……… 🙂

          • On January 9, 2020 at 10:32 am,
            b says:

            Its a habit, Al likes cfs, not sure if he likes you much jerry 😉

          • On January 9, 2020 at 11:18 am,
            Big Al says:

            You are not correct, b. I personally like most everyone on this site. Jerry and I have spoken numerous time on the telephone.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 10:35 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            b……… 🙂
            Ha, ha……..good one……..

          • On January 9, 2020 at 12:16 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Owl…..to correct you……..I have only spoken to you one time over the phone….just in case the cia is reading this….. 🙂
            But, they can find the texts, if, they are smart enough… lol

        • On January 9, 2020 at 10:18 am,
          Big Al says:

          Of course, China and others and certainly Walmart all played a role. In the long run is that going to be a bad thing?

          • On January 9, 2020 at 10:30 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Certainly wiping out the middle class ,where jobs go off overseas thanks to the large corporation with politician and banksters help………..
            Trump ran on a platform …..bring the jobs and manufacturing back.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 11:21 am,
            Big Al says:

            OOTB, if seems to me that is exactly what he is doing. Do you agree with me?

          • On January 9, 2020 at 11:47 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            I would like to give him the benefit of doubt….I want to see the arrest list published.
            I am still on the fence….I am waiting to see if BARR does anything…..

      • On January 9, 2020 at 10:20 am,
        Big Al says:

        Jimmy,

        Thank God, I will not see that in my lifetime.

  9. On January 9, 2020 at 6:35 am,
    cfs says:

    Meanwhile in Austria teenage Muslim gangs carry out mock executions.
    Police do not arrest “minors.
    https://youtu.be/Ehp1dCuvCXs

  10. On January 9, 2020 at 6:51 am,
    cfs says:

    Around Christmastime I heard of similar mock executions in Northern England (Manchester) and in Sweden, reported in regional news, but not in National news.
    There seems to be a deliberate attempt to play down this intimidating behavior.

  11. On January 9, 2020 at 10:38 am,
    John Kruschke says:

    According to published statistics, over 138,000 U S Military personnel have committed suicide since 2001.At what point does this number enter the discussion?

    • On January 9, 2020 at 10:40 am,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      Dang……..that is a good question………and man that is a HUGE number……thanks…

      • On January 9, 2020 at 10:47 am,
        cfs says:

        It appears to be a big number, but I’m not sure it means what you think.
        Military suicide rate is currently running 18.5/100,000 per year.

        Worldwide suicide rate is currently 17.6/100,000 per year.

        • On January 9, 2020 at 10:52 am,
          cfs says:

          Are military suicides increasing? Yes.
          But so are suicides in general.
          The year to year variation is larger than it should be statistically. (I DON’T KNOW why.)
          The difference between military and regular citizens suicide rates appear negligible statistically

          • On January 9, 2020 at 11:06 am,
            Big Al says:

            I will discuss this with Frieda later today.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 11:54 am,
            bonzo b. says:

            I may commit suicide if Sanders or Oscario Cortez ever become president. Or maybe I’ll move to Switzerland…

        • On January 9, 2020 at 10:59 am,
          cfs says:

          Let me lob in a sexist grenade!

          In general the biggest difference in statistics in suicides seems to be women vs men over time.
          %0 years ago more women killed themselves than men.
          Currently more men kill themselves than women.

          Obvious conclusion….. Women’s liberation has overshot and gone too far!

          I demand that women be as unhappy as men.

        • On January 9, 2020 at 11:11 am,
          Big Al says:

          As I said, I will discuss this with Dr. Frieda this afternoon.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 2:11 pm,
            cfs says:

            I did look at some other papers, but lost them on a computer locking up situation.

            Basically the age and sex distribution is very different between military and civilian life
            and suicide rates are highly variable, depending on sex and age.
            Yes the military rate of suicide is worrisome.

            However, it is not, say, double civilian rates. So I don’t think it is THAT worrying, given statistics problems of valid comparisons.

        • On January 9, 2020 at 11:31 am,
          John Kruschke says:

          CFS:
          I left this site not by my own choosing.
          Over and over I have to question what is your motivation.
          I am going to be polite with you and provide you a link.
          Good Day
          https://www.usveteransmagazine.com/2017/09/shocking-military-suicide-rates-identifying-signs/

  12. On January 9, 2020 at 11:30 am,
    james says:

    US – Iran crisis is note over ! The Airplane shot down is a ??? Wake Up ! Bankers never stop !

    • On January 9, 2020 at 11:40 am,
      james says:

      All Trump advisors are from George Bush pocketBook !!!!

  13. On January 9, 2020 at 12:02 pm,
    b says:

    Trudeau says he has info that says Iran shot down the air liner.
    Surprises surprise, I think had I been in Vegas I would have bet we find out the Iranians shot it down.

    Tired of media’s Pentagon spin? Lee Camp outlines 6 things you aren’t being told about the US assassination of Soleimani (VIDEO)

    https://youtu.be/ZEAp_UouT2Q

    Slowly people figure things out.
    I never cease to be amazed at how well propaganda works tho.

    • On January 9, 2020 at 12:23 pm,
      cfs says:

      Confusion of war.

      It was bloody obvious 4 days ago. As soon as I saw flames on twitter coming from an engine, and heard it was climbing steadily until it suddenly dropped off radar.

      • On January 9, 2020 at 12:43 pm,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        Main thing……….who was on board……..anyone that could spill the beans……on the corrupt and corruption……
        I do not think it was a mistake , nor loose cannon……..jmo

        • On January 9, 2020 at 1:10 pm,
          b says:

          kinda tuff to think who ever it was didnt know it was a commercial airliner.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 1:17 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            agree………

          • On January 9, 2020 at 1:18 pm,
            cfs says:

            About a mile to a mile and half high at time of firing?
            Hit at 7990 feet.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 1:23 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Wonder if they had binoculars…….. 🙂

          • On January 9, 2020 at 1:29 pm,
            Robert Moriarty says:

            The 737 getting shot down as correctly predicted by CFS was an accident and nothing more. Some trigger happy Iranian kid got buck fever. If civilians had any idea of how often “friendly fire” takes place they would be astonished. Friendly fire isn’t.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 1:41 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            What ever you say Bobby…… 🙂

          • On January 9, 2020 at 1:46 pm,
            Jim M says:

            Agree, it was an accident. But as you know, it had to be approved to shoot. And the government is attempting to cover it up. A lot of scared military leaders – a horrible outcome, but it shows they are afraid. Might force negotiations.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 1:47 pm,
            Jim M says:

            This was way up on the thread, so I thought I would put it sown here for Bobby to see…..

            Optimism, versus pessimism. You appear to be angry, possibly one who hates the country for which you fought, and think you know better than everyone else – a pessimist to say the least.

            Yes the US government, all sides of the isle, has made mistakes. But go live in Iran, bitch about the Ayatollah and tell me what happens. Go live and China and complain about CCP policy. Go live in Russia, write a negative article about Putin. Maybe go pay some European taxes, subsidizing the slackers riding the gravy train.

            I lived in former Soviet Georgia, Albania, Philippines, Korea, UK, Germany, Slovenia, Kuwait, in Afghanistan, Middle East, South/Central America, Africa – served in many more countries – they all suck in some ways, are wonderful in others. But…

            Tell me where there is more opportunity to succeed, and more opportunity to complain about the weaknesses of the system, without retribution, than in the US. I haven’ found it.

            To imply I support the mistakes and death of anyone but those that take it from others for political or criminal acts, and using those mistakes to attack my optimism, is a fools argument. I don’t, never have. But I recognize the world is complicated – and it don’t get better by disengaging and thinking it will all just go away.

            Its like living in the hood, improving your house, storing some gold, drive a Benz and thinking no one will eventually rob you. Human nature seems to imply without morals, laws and a method to enforce them, people screw each other over pretty fast.

            People, bankers, investment advisors, politicians take from others, lie about it, and then bitch about the system and people from which they steal.

            I don’t take from people. I don’t invest others money for profit, nor recommend investments for profit.

            How many people have you advised and then cheated? What about Vancouver markets? Tell me how that works? People bitch endlessly about the system that they use for personal advantage. Great guilt, or just evil? Don’t throw accusations at my moral character without taking a look at your own.

            And by the way, most real Iranian Generals were purged after the 1979 Revolution – I knew one. If one took a stand against the revolution, or spoke out about the rulers, you were killed. Do it in America, you get a CNN contract.

            Your arguments are weak, and projection seems strong.

            One thing you are right about – these places need to sort themselves out. Not our place – but there are US interests that we need to protect – and we can’t walk away without paying a price eventually. 1910 to 1916 US tried it – and failed. We tried again in 1935-1941 – that got us a long way too. Sept 11, or course conspiracy theorists and idiots forget facts, make some of their own up, and say it was an inside job.

            In spite of the hyperbolic claims, the world is safer today than it ever has been for the largest percentage of the population. Not because of China, Russia, Middle East or Europe, but because of US willingness to act to make it that way, in spite of mistakes.

            Allowing evil to grow outside our borders will not stop it, it will grow stronger – history has proven it over, and over and over again.

            And one last point in this diatribe – going back 70 (1953) years for justification for Iranian actions today is foolish. Almost all Iranian adults from that time are dead – someone has to teach/preach that hate to carry it forward. I would be like teaching Americans to hate the Japanese and Germans for 1941 – it don’t happen here, Haus.

            I believe in America, and the Constitution, in spite of its weaknesses – I am an optimist.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 1:49 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Ok………Jimmy is proving my point……….
            Jim M says:
            Agree, it was an accident. But as you know, it had to be approved to shoot.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 2:12 pm,
            Robert Moriarty says:

            Jim M:

            Since you asked a fair question, I will respond in kind. You said,

            “How many people have you advised and then cheated? What about Vancouver markets? Tell me how that works? People bitch endlessly about the system that they use for personal advantage. Great guilt, or just evil? Don’t throw accusations at my moral character without taking a look at your own.”

            Well Jim, how many babies did you murder? How many women did you torture? How many men did you cut their manhood off?

            Actually I haven’t cheated anyone any more than I believe you have tortured or killed personally but I do find your question incredibly offensive.

            I spent enough time at war to learn to hate it. And for anyone on this board offended by my service, you may feel the war and my service was a war crime and you would be correct. Vietnam wasn’t a legal war or a good war and everything Americans did was a war crime as a result. I did shoot back when people shot at me and wish I hadn’t believed all the lies that I did.

            Jim M, why can’t you answer the simple question? If all these wars were planned before 911 how does the actions of people from those countries amount to terrorism. We told seven countries we were going to war with them and they fought back. That’s how war works. In every case the corpus belli was a lie. Every war was a war crime and while i regret the thousands of American kids who died, I also feel for the millions of innocent people attacked by people just like you who believe they can do a better job of running the country than they could.

            All those countries were more or less shit holes before the US destroyed them but millions of lives were taken or destroyed and the US has totally screwed up the middle east and you, Jim, think it’s a great idea for more American kids to die fighting people who are not our enemies all based on lies.

            I will make you one f&cking promise. Some day ten or fifteen or fifty years from now you are going to wake up and realize what you have supported and you will regret what you have done. I used to be very proud to be a Marine pilot and to have done what I did until Fallujah. That was so clearly a whole series of war crimes that I am ashamed to have been a Marine or an American. We are going to pay for what we have done one day soon.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 2:51 pm,
            Jim M says:

            My conscious is clean. Sorry you have regret. I have killed no women or children unless they were shooting at someone, and never tortured anyone, other than my own family for leaving them to serve.

            I’m almost 60 buddy, I will face my maker with sin, as we all will, but not the death of the innocents on my hands. I have not committed, nor have I ever seen a war crime but by the enemy (many) and those few highlighted by the press.

            These wars were fought as they came – no big evil team of corporate MIC and gov planners created them long ago. In your time, some were hatched, but they failed – Vietnam, Bay of Pigs, Iran, etc, etc. I have been too close to the top to think any of these people have the smarts today or are actually competent to carry that kind of an operation out.

            Kinda like Hillary thinking she could control the 2016 election – too many variables. The enemy always has a say.

            The big difference today from back then, open criticism and transparency through the internet, on sites like these. This is why I fear manipulation and authoritarian control so much – and am willing to fight against it — we only know of what is told to us or seen with our own eyes. When a small group controls that – like they do in Iran or China – we will all lose.

            Robert, not all Marines did wrong in Fallujah – most were just there for the ride – just a few bad ones, just like in society.

            Its unfair to you and other good Marines to generalize. 99% of these kids are there to do right. Thank God some are stilling willing to be soldiers or policemen.

          • On January 9, 2020 at 4:02 pm,
            Jim M says:

            Power corrupts – Obama used the justice department as an enforcer. Sickening

          • On January 9, 2020 at 4:03 pm,
            Jim M says:

            Power corrupts. Obama used DOJ as an enforcer. Sickening

          • On January 9, 2020 at 5:12 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Jimmy you are spot , concerning Obama, Biden, …..better throw in Nancy Pelosi….drug runner ……..

  14. On January 9, 2020 at 12:18 pm,
    cfs says:

    This part of Bongino shows collusion:

    https://youtu.be/SJ_YlM8KbTs?t=188

    • On January 9, 2020 at 3:29 pm,
      Jim M says:

      Bongino has nailed it – Trump’s weakness was trusting layovers from the Obama admin were actually loyal to the Country, not Obama and his sycophants.

      He needed to clean house, but was unprepared with supportive appointments because he was an outsider.

      It takes time to drain the swamp.

  15. On January 9, 2020 at 12:45 pm,
    cfs says:
  16. On January 9, 2020 at 1:47 pm,
    OOTB Jerry says:
    • On January 9, 2020 at 2:00 pm,
      cfs says:

      That very fact indicates something probably covered up.

    • On January 9, 2020 at 2:28 pm,
      Jim M says:

      OOTB J, as to your much earlier question – who the keys are being taken from – right now:
      lobbyists like ABDev Co, and many others have lost access
      old guard Republicans like Ryan, McCain, Flake, and a bunch of retiring never Trumpers, all the Dem insiders lost their keys.

      He is forcing CIA and DNI into heal (though that is clearly the hardest nut to crack) and changing Fed hiring and firing rules.

      DJT has gone after the Fed openly – Interest rates are low – banks are doing well because of diversification and big fees (uneducated consumers), not due to rates – I believe he will eventually he will hit them and big global investment firms advocating against America First.

      He has threatened to outlaw US business investment in China – a huge threat to tech manufacturers and media conglomerates – forcing them to bow a little – more needed for privacy and tech protecting.

      He is attacking bad trade deals TPP/NAFTA gone), reworked USMCA and targeting Chinese with specific tarriffs in the Nat Sec arena.

      He is de-regulating – taking from the government minders – for every 1 new reg, he has cut 20. He just announced EPA rule changes, IRS is doing fewer audits.

      He reduced corporate taxes (helping companies that do business here – hurting global supply chain dependent multi-nationals). He hit blue state legislators and bid spenders hard with limiting Fed tax credits.

      He took away the keys from judicial legislators — has stacked the judicial with conservative, pro constitution appointments.

      He is still spending big on military and MIC, but that is to catch up from 8 years of sequestration and hollowed out capabilities to fight major conflict, and still allowing huge budgets to go thru – bad – because he can’t do it all at once ( he needs some allies.) He is pulling out of Syria, Afg, eventually Iraq – and cutting/prioritizing overseas aid.

      He owns the Rep Party now, is organized, resourced and capable of winning back the House, keep Senate and winning 2020.

      He has done the above under the Racism charges, Russia lie, Ukrainian lie, Impeachment and Stormy Daniels fiasco – think of what he can do if he has actual congress with loyalty to the Nation and to an America First agenda in 2020-2024.

      I am actually very surprised at the success of giving some of the keys over to the people and local governments. Thankfully, people are waking up to it too.

      • On January 9, 2020 at 3:12 pm,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        Thanks for the outline Jimmy…………….appreciate the follow up……..

  17. On January 9, 2020 at 3:23 pm,
    cfs says:

    Well said, Jim, I agree.
    The Federal government has been seizing more and more power from the people and it is long past time they took it back. They, of course, have little power to take it back.
    I wish I knew how to heal the political divide that is so hindering progress in many things.
    Perhaps the power of the ballot box will be sufficient despite the efforts of corrupt politicians.

    It concerns me that so often we use the word assassination so easily, but hold the practice so abhorrent.
    Clearly that comes from a couple of millennia of monarchs telling us peons that assassination is forbidden. Perhaps we should re-examine whether assassination really is bad, of a more efficient way of actually fighting wars.
    Of course, Kings would want assassination to be always illegal; pure self interest demands it. Besides in olden days warring monarchs were often related. They wouldn’t want to actually assassinate a relative while taking his land and property.
    However at the peasant level of war, is that not exactly what happens…..soldier shoots at soldier, plane shoots at plane, ship shoots at ship.
    Would it not be much more efficient ALWAYS to go after the power structure of an enemy? Cut off the head and the body does not function well.
    I know Reagan signed an executive order to ban assassination, but was that not after he had had a scare. Is it not time to abolish that executive order.

    That leaves the War Powers Act, defining how andwho should determine war policies.
    People often call the President Commander in Chief, but, as I read the Constitution, that is only true during a Time of War.
    It is Congress that has the power to declare a war. Without that, it appears the President’s hands are theoretically tied.
    On the other hand, once a War is declared it appears to me Congress then has its power reduced to the power of the purse, with actual war fighting decisions left to the discretion of the President.

  18. On January 9, 2020 at 3:33 pm,
    OOTB Jerry says:

    Here is a good one…….deep state
    vhttps://www.zerohedge.com/political/new-lawsuit-claims-rod-rosenstein-led-task-force-spied-sharyl-attkissons-computer

  19. On January 9, 2020 at 5:15 pm,
    OOTB Jerry says:

    Webb of the day…………
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC3_jApc96c

  20. On January 9, 2020 at 9:28 pm,
    cfs says: