Just how different is the world going to be after COVID-19 is behind us?
Joel Elconin joins me today for a very different conversation than we normally have. We look at society generally and how thinks will change in terms of confidence in governments, country relations, and all other things that deal with person to person and county to county interactions. There is a chance things could be very different moving forward.
How China Stole Coronavirus From Canada And Weaponized It
Hey……b………….your govt started the virus…….get the hair dryers ready….lol
Just interesting ………..in a lock down state……..and past history
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/detect-deter-annihilate-how-american-police-state-will-deal-outbreak
The NWO………is prepping everyone……….for total control of the citizens……
Joel………is spot on………generational change………….
Like duh…..Joel………the two headed snake has been exposed several times……long ago, while you were too busy , making cash, several have been warning you……
Like you Joel…., you are finally, up to speed on the US CONGRESS…..is a Joke.
When the Ship goes down…………..The Prince should have , put the gold bars, in the middle of the ship……….
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/saudi-princes-79-million-super-yacht-capsizes-greece
Go long record players. Uncle Joe sweeps Tues primaries…
Good morning C K>>>>>>>>>
DId you get the shipment of hair dryers off the boat…..before it sank….lol
Yeah, and I got closets full of hair dryers, toilet paper and record players.
Limit Down ,with the Ship………,…Ship of State, is going down….in popularity …
Wait, till the sheeple do not get the check in the mail.
Hi EBO….I will swap you a small tin of beans , for a toilet roll…………
Please reply quickley….as i am busting to go………..Your #1 fan….tony.
“Blaming entire government for letting us down…”
A little late to the game…when has goobermnet NOT let us down…what the hell do you expect from a gooberment run by criminals.
And don’t worry…the banksters will do just fine…at your expense…just like 2008…Munchkin will make sure of that.
Joel……is only about 20 yrs behind……….thinking the govt is going to help…..what a joke.
Anyone who didn’t learn the goooberment is a crminal enterprise…certainly in the last 20 years…might as well have been asleep the whole time.
We have a lot……of those people , sneaking around the KER…….lol
“Great to see the market up today…”
Not for long. Futures are ugly.
Yep………Gold still looking good…….jmo
Yep gold resillient all in all. Silver more industrious than copper an oil.
Good Day…….Oz……….do not get me wrong….I still like silver….. 🙂
I too like silver Jerry but its beaten badly here. And with the corona issue showing no immediate signs of abating, I feel it will get beaten abit more yet. Couple that with JPMs stranglehold on golds sister metal and the continued divergence between precious metal prices and futures prices and voila: Suppression and status quo resumes… At least in the mid-term.
Oz………I might have to agree with you….on the silver….
Hummm……….$1800 gold……in 12 months……..
https://www.kitco.com/news/2020-03-17/Goldman-sticks-to-1-800-gold-price-in-12-months.html
Goldman Sachs remained bullish on gold for the long haul due to potential of a “shock to the global economy”
We need a coffee club………..for all the Ker Club members who get up before OWL….
OWL, …….does not get to work, until 3 pm….Eastern Time…..by, that time, game over..
Koffee Early Risers………….KER………. maybe, we will invite OWL…. lol
Oil……….Down…..and going lower……jmo
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/oil-plunges-17-year-low-one-bank-predicts-negative-oil-prices
The streets are vacant……….home school, home job, delivery by others…..
US Frackers………are going to be Toast…….
Hi Jerry…..I had to do a double take….I thought you said…US F***ers…Note to self , get new glasses………….
Ha,Ha…………..man I know exactly what you mean about glasses…. 🙂
BTW……..forget the hair dryer as a cure all, , except if , you have the flu……
Best measure……wash your hands, and keep them away from your face….
Rhodium and Palladium……….taking it on the chin………..DOWN, and Down and down…
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/gold-is-setting-records-dating-back-over-5000-years-against-silver-2020-03-17
According to Marshall Gittler, head of investment research at BDSwiss, the ratio of gold to silver is the highest it’s been for 5,120 years.
Yes there’s data back into Pharaoh Menes’ time in ancient Egypt, when the ratio was a more modest 2.5, and it was 6 in King Hammurabi’s day in Babylon.
On Monday the ratio reached nearly 124. On Tuesday morning, the ratio slipped to 119.
Hopefully the worship of DONALD J TRUMP will now burn itself out as people see him continue totalk about himself, at a time of crisis . Only worship GOD not man. Grow up we need to get rid of the old senators like MITCHEL of KENTUCKY . trying to buy quality preferred stocks of hotel companys but they havent fallin enough to make them super bargins . some of my food stocks are slowly coming back after dropping 50% . love and healing to you all RSH
R.H :
Amen to that.
Make sure his wife ,Elaine Chow goes with.
From a blogger at Zerohedge…Nikki Alexis
8 minutes ago
Would you like to play a game?
Welcome everybody and get ready to play our latest version of “The Bailout Game”. You remember from 2008, right? Yes, we’re back and better than ever! You are forced(!) to play again… this time with a brand new cast of CHARACTERS. So let’s get started. (Applause)
In today’s game, you get to “choose” all of the following: Behind Bailout Door #1, the Federal Reserve pumps trillions into the cheating, insolvent banks. Door #2 is stimulus to save the airlines, casinos and every other industry that has been borrowing at 0% and buying back their stock to boost their share price for 11 years. Door #3 is taxpayer stimulus of ~$1,000, which you will… wait for it… give right back to the government for more taxpayer bailouts of greedy corporations!!! (Crowd grows wild).
But wait, there’s more exciting news: Boeing is insolvent! That’s riiiiight, one of the most “profitable” (*cough cough*) companies of the past 3 years, which helped lead the Dow to crazy all time highs, has been playing a shell game the entire time… including making planes that, um… crash a lot.
Since you already know you’re the loser, let’s congratulate our winners: The .00000001% who jet off to the safety of their hidden bunkers scattered around the world! (don’t believe me? Look it up). From there they will sip their cognac and watch us lemmings destroy each other in a world collapse of chaos and plague. JUST! HOW! THEY! PLANNED! IT!
Thank you for playing… and see you next time (which will probably be in a few days) with a brand new set of schemes from our creative criminals.
Which reminds us, we almost forgot about our favorite segment: Criminals In The Spotlight!. Today that spotlight is on a rising star: Steve (how did I land such a hot wife) Mnuchin. Steve pulled a dandy this week. On Monday he tells the sheeple there will not be a recession. On Tuesday he tells CONgress that unemployment will be at 20% if they don’t pass his stimulus! We are soooo proud of Stevey, taking a page from the book of his esteemed mentor Hank Paulson, who threatened Congress with tanks in the streets in 2008 if they didn’t give him his (Goldman) bailout. (Heavy applause, standing ovation, hot wife sobbing).
Have a great day and remember our motto: “Privatize the gains; socialize the losses”. Because, in such uncertain times, it’s comforting to know some things will NEVER change.
The Indians are getting restless…………throw them some Cake….says Mitt….
From..Tarzan…Zerohedge again.
This whole thing is a planned event. It will not get better until the police state rolls. And if you think we already have a police state, you haven’t seen anything yet.
I encourage everyone to read ‘Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development’. Especially the chapter starting on page 18 titled Lock Step. It was published back in 2010 by the Rockefeller Foundation and lists future possible scenarios that read more like deep state plans.
LOCK STEP Scenario Narratives
A world of tighter top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership, with limited innovation and growing citizen push back.
…Even the most pandemic-prepared nations were quickly overwhelmed when the virus streaked around the world, infecting nearly 20 percent of the global population and killing 8 million in just seven months, the majority of them healthy young adults. The pandemic also had a deadly effect on economies: international mobility of both people and goods screeched to a halt, debilitating industries like tourism and breaking global supply chains. Even locally, normally bustling shops and office buildings sat empty for months, devoid of both employees and customers…
… At first, the notion of a more controlled world gained wide acceptance and approval. Citizens willingly gave up some of their sovereignty — and their privacy — to more paternalistic states in exchange for greater safety and stability. Citizens were more tolerant, and even eager, for top-down direction and oversight, and national leaders had more latitude to impose order in the ways they saw fit
They’re covering for the Bankers. Nothing was solved in 2008, Tarp failed to fix their mess, so now they’re back for more. Only this time they disguised the bailout as a health crisis. Banks are locking up and once again they’ve gone to Congress and said make it huge or we’re going down. A trap they set 100 years ago.
The virus is real, but it is not our greatest threat. Be wise people, Their remedies are to cover their asses by rolling out martial law, not to help you fight their bio weapon!
What was his first clue……like duh……….go back and read what we have been saying for YEARS……..
We………meaning a lot of folks here…..not, just me…..
You included Irish…….
Irish, you are spot on once again.
Have you heard of Pandemic Bonds and the World Health Organization?
Dr John Bergman is another “straight shooter” who will give you info you will not hear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC4s6-8De_o
Two of my go to people are Mohammed El Arian and Nouriel Robini.
Here is NYU stern School of Business Nouriel Roubini making a case for 1,000.00 for everybody.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsgGbHN8q8U
The Dow panic has set in again. Industrial production is declining steadily. Alas, now it is the poor Bull Market. China will have a hard time controlling it’s population. What with jobs declining and 1.3 billion mouths to feed on top of the covid explosion. You can’t build enough jails fast enough when their population gets restive and heads out into the streets. DT
When unjust rulers , take advantage of the people, they get what they deserve…..History shows it time and time again., and this time period will be no different…….
The people are getting what they deserve as well. The Akuna Matada bunch that thinks there are no consequences and debt doesn’t matter.
I will add Jerry, I took Big Al’s advice years ago about the 10% in Physical. When I try tell people about this, they look at me like I’m from outer space.
Fun Fact: Supersonico was the Spanish name for the T.V show, The Jetsons. Remember”Meet George Jetson”
The Jetsons
CFS:
Just like we need a new way of looking at Physics,ie a combination of Physics and Biology, we need a new approach to medicine.
We are all “Electric” Nicholas Tesla should have been a Dr.
Anyone……..talking about FANG or MAGA…….stocks………
Silver beaten down, but, phyz hard to find……..according to kitco….news..
Yesterdays Headline:
State’s nightlife halted.
Dine in Restaurants, bars, theaters, museums and other gathering places under an order by Gov Tim Walz. Minnesota
There’s nowhere to go but home.
The government in the form of deep state incompetence has an element of blame.
When the CDC realized their replacement test for the WHO didn’t work, the bureaucracy covered their backside, rather than scrambling for a new working test.
BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE, THE REAL BLAME LIES WITH CHINA. CHINA KNEW THE PROBLEM AND COVERED UP FOR TWO MONTHS. IN DOING THAT, CHINA CAUSED THOUSANDS, POSSIBLY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS, OF NEEDLESS DEATHS.
Now here’s what scares me…..the unknown. We don’t know about reinfection, or how much immunity is conferred post-infection.
Knowing the claimed (by India) genomic structure of the novel corona virus, it is possible we do not acquire much immunity,
(PLEASE NOTE: I AM NOT ANY EXPERT IN IMMUNOLOGY.)
However, given how easily this disease is transmitted, it is possible that it might never go away. Like, for example, the common flu. If a person gains insufficient immunity, such that it is possible to re-catch the disease. If that is the case, it is possible that this disease could permanently affect longevity world-wide. It is possible that as one ages, one repeatedly catches this disease, with increasing severity in its effects, until it kills you. I pray that a vaccine may be found.
On March 18, 2020 at 8:30 am,
John Kruschke says:
CFS:
Just like we need a new way of looking at Physics,ie a combination of Physics and Biology, we need a new approach to medicine.
We are all “Electric” Nicholas Tesla should have been a Dr.
Of course the desire is not to cure you, rather the desire is to sell you more drugs.
That was in the book you brought to the site CFS, “The Truth About Cancer” Remember
John, I first have to understand why the age dependence of the virulence exists.
If, as I believe, this is a bioweapon, the creator of it must have understood something that I as yet do not. He must have understood something about aging that could be used to attack via this novel virus. There are 3 insertions, presumably created via crispr.
I have to understand why those three insertions. what is it particularly that creates the age dependency. I have been asking everyone I can think of, how and why those 3.
My gut feeling is that once I understand that, I may be able to figure out a way to break the link. It is always what you don’t know that’s the problem.
Thanks CFS:
Keep us posted.
Any flu is more likely to kill the elderly because a much greater percentage of them have suboptimal immune system function.
Next week…………Dow……..$17,000 WAG
Today’ s lesson comes from Romans 12:14
Don’t be to proud to enjoy the company of ordinary people. And don’t think you know it all!
I think Philippians 4……6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.
“Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.”
KJV……..which version are you using………
NLT Parallel Study Bible. I’m on my second trip through.
I’m also doing Quran in English.To gain perspective.
Hate to say it………but,,,,,,,,You are going to have some trouble ….with the translations…..Only the KJV…..has the closest translation , from Greek, Latin, and Hebrew
Thanks Jerry. I will get a copy.
KJV……..is the only one……that does not have copy write problems…..
Today is another good day. Regardless of the financial hit.
Revelation 22:19
“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
The Quran used to be available as a downloadable PDF file over a decade ago for free.
Trump meets about covid-19 LIVE now.
” Just don’t stay to long, as they might start rubbing off on you.”
WTI 23.32.
Lessons Ignored: John Bolton’s Bogus Defense of “Streamlining” Away Our Bio-Readiness
https://www.justsecurity.org/69197/lessons-ignored-john-boltons-bogus-defense-of-streamlining-away-our-bio-readiness/
Is Zero Hedge a Russian Trojan Horse?
https://newrepublic.com/article/156788/zero-hedge-russian-trojan-horse
About Zero Hedge, now based in Bulgaria
The whole virus threat is a complete scam and Trump is a happy stooge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AyuhbnPOI&feature=emb_logo
Do not tell the bird brains ………….they might wake up….. LOL
Jerry, we have a thirty year old here in Minnesota in critical condition.That is not hype, that is a fact.
Have you prayed for them, and do they know the LORD……..
The answer to your question is yes and I don’t know.
John, it’s total hype. Look into the stats and watch the video above. Yes, the virus is real. The scam is that it is significant.
I got you Mathew. Thanks for that.I know there is a scam going, as I posted the link with the Pandemic Bonds. Everything gets real when one of your family members is here one day and the next day their gone. An early lesson for me.
No disease is a joke for those afflicted and a lot of people die every year of the common flu while no one is quarantined and no task force is created at our expense.
The question for me is whether this virus has been weaponized and are there any secondary effects.Time will answer this question, until then I will stay on the fence.
John……..why don’t you read my post at the very top of the page….
concerning weaponized…..or not…..
The media is weaponized. The virus is to scare people into submission while the powers that be loot the public and grab power on a massive scale. It also serves to take the heat off of them as they hyperinflate (hyper-steal from you) which is a big part of the looting.
Nothing new but the sheeple still can’t figure it out.
I get it Jerry. This is straight out of the CIA Playbook. It’s called “FEAR PORN”
As long as you can keep the population fearful, cognitive dissonance will rule the day.
Nothing new here, hec, I’d wager 85% of the U S Population still believe the Twin Towers were brought down by terrorists with box cutters.
Now you get ,why, we went off on a rant yesterday……when somebody has been promoting bs….for three weeks…….
The US dollar is UP and away, @ 101.60 up 2.20. The loonie is taking it on the beak! DT
Talk about oversold 😳
https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24CDW&p=D&yr=1&mn=8&dy=0&id=p01729340412&a=569434196
Are you anticipating a rebound, Matthew? If so, do you have a target?
Yes, there will be a big rebound and it seems like it should be soon but if stocks keep crashing, who knows. It has already reached the 2016 low.
Targets would include recently broken supports (green arrows)…
https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24CDW&p=W&yr=5&mn=0&dy=0&id=p23320366656&a=601095568
It seems any rally in the loonie will be feeble unless oil moves up simultaneously, and at $20 now, it probably will.
For the miners, today’s plunge is not welcome or technically “good” in any way so one has to wonder if one more massive decline is about to ensue, 2008 style.
that is one ugly chart……….considering Canada …has no gold……….might get uglier
Thank you, Matthew.
The loonie is used toilet paper…we have a retarde that coyldnt run a bubble gun machine.
On a brighter note it bloody beautful on the BC coast and im going to have kick the deer off my lawn so i can mow it…
Still in cash….way to irrational for me!!
People are foolish….hording TP ect….man no wonder 5% of us have the money…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AyuhbnPOI
Hi Bill…..That was a good link , to anybody who may want to watch it consntrate on the subtitles…otherwise you will miss some of what he is saying.
Yes makes perfect sense eh? Govs love a good crisis….they personally never get hurt.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the DOW gets down to 13000-14000. HAL is getting pretty attractive now but should fall further—–waiting to purchase.
I spoke to Matthew a few weeks back in regards to price action of Dow and if it could get back down to 2008/2009 bottom level. My reasoning was based on some of peter shiffs work who like him or not called the housing crash way before many. That in itself deserves praise. But also on some other variables.
Matt’s response was intriguing as he said there was a possibility of it getting as low as 17,000 which would be Armageddon and I reckon that would be inflation adjusted as he always is kind enough to let us know.
I think this is ala 2008 and I will go with his 17,000 or something close as jerry is also suggesting. Just the way some stocks have broken technical levels and pass experience, I see them moving down one more time. Maybe they don’t go lower but I think this was a bounce and one more plunge. Regardless it would be prudent to buy on these extreme down days we are already at extreme lows.
Matt, 17,000 possibilit
Jerry 17,000 level
Doc spring doldrums and downlower
Bill cash is king waiting for buying opportunity
Me ( pass experience with stocks showing lower level)
If we get another shot at lower levels I’m purchasing and if not you should have purchased more today. Bought some more impact and waiting to buy tig if it his my target level.
Cheers to all
I agree after a bounce lower they go….PMs could possibly sell off again before a massive run ensues….I’ll post anything important my guys say….they have been pretty stellar…
Glenfish………all I can say, be EXTREMELY CAREFUL …..anything can happen…..
Wait till, the people start getting their IRA statements……….THERE will be more panic, I am sure……..Boomers are going to go crazy…….
This is depressionary shit….we could go no bid on a lot of stuff for a while..
I kept a half mill in cash for such events….I made mistakes in life as we all have but as long as the good ones out weight the bad….one moves fwd.
One should wait we still don’t know how much blood there will be.
Bill,
In what way is your cash held? In a bank account? Money market account? A Treasury Direct account?
On March 18, 2020 at 3:13 pm,
JMiller says:
RE Bill,
In what way is your cash held? In a bank account? Money market account? A Treasury Direct account?
Hey JMiller.
I’ve got Tangerine Acct and they gave me an incredible 3%….. Couldn’t get that rate not cause you know why…but still better than any others. They wont pull my rate as they know I’ll pull out.
I just sent a pile to my trade account….maybe too much as we are speculating like hell on this blow out market.
Golds got smashed and I’ve written repeatedly they are not a safe haven in such events…Peeps need cash POOF it all goes out the window….
I thinks a decent call and Ill go with it:::::
We’re adding NUGT with a bid up to $10.00
NUGT is the Direxion Daily Gold Miners Index Bull 3X Shares
It closed at $7.28 today, down 49% since yesterday.
Certainly it’s volatile, to say the least, so we’ll repeat Monday’s caveats:
Unless we can realize significant short-term gains, we’re thinking long-term with this one and if it drops over time we’ll likely add an additional position if it halves in price. This is a strategy meant to realize spectacular gains over time, which may take days, weeks, months or longer.
If in doubt, always stay out. If you’re skittish, sit back and watch it awhile but don’t chase the price higher. Markets will remain erratic for a long time to come, eventually going lower as we’ve long predicted, and precious metals will not be immune to the chaos as has very much been evidenced recently.
We’ve stated it many times and can’t repeat it enough: precious metals are not, and have never reliably been a hedge during times of market or socioeconomic turmoil. It is not our intent to hedge against stocks with this idea, rather we’re more likely to see gold and silver rise along with stocks for now.
Bill, any comments about if, how, or when to go long JNUG? Clobbered again today…
Off topic: If Trump can make term limits a reality, he’ll win &
fix this nation.
Chart looks bottoming …buy and hold your nose.
I have no doubt Trump wins…the other are retards and he ant perfect by a long shot but I’m Canadian and support him big time…the rest scare the hell out of me and Trudeau cant tie his shoes thats why he grew a beard he wants to look like adult. I wish I was a better actor Id be in charge…..
Hold that thought. I’m good friends wi Carrie Ann Moss & Pe
In this current economic climate, I would now be very surprised if gold doesnt first break Excelsiors mentioned price of $1446 and then towards the major round figure of $1400. I hope im wrong, I really do but I cant help but read between the lines. This is in all likelihood going to be worse than the original GFC. Its just a matter of how much damage control gold can initiate (silver too) and then the subsequent repair job once the fear and irrationality begins to subside.
my NUGT trade is on…plugging my nose
Series of Event………on the Virus……….weaponizing………
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/visualizing-secret-history-coronavirus-bioweapon