The Virus. (sent to me by a friend)

  1. This virus that we talk about as if it is the measles, cold, flu … something we can reference when it is really something else, something quite strange.

From a friend:
“Best explanation I’ve seen to date …! I found this on a support group I’m part of for medical and nursing staff to get through it. Interesting readFeeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell.  I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand…  It has to do with RNA sequencing…. I.e. genetics. Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year… you get immunity two ways…through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.  Novel viruses, come from animals…. the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans… then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off. Now…. sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human… once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be.. H1N1 was deadly….but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu.   It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too. Fast forward. Now, here comes this Coronavirus… it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long…but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person… But here is the scary part…. in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human.  Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”  This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity…doctors have no known medicines for it. And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs.  That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza…. this one is slippery AF.  And it’s a lung eater…And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L….which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.  We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu. Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed…(honestly…I understand him so much better now). Just like us,  he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation…And let me end by saying….right now it’s hitting older folks harder… but this genome is so slippery…if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next. #flattenthecurve. Stay home folks… and share this to those that just are not catching on.” 

Comments:
  1. On March 22, 2020 at 1:13 pm,
    cfs says:

    I’m sorry Big Al, but your friend lacks knowledge.
    Please watch Germany versus the rest of Europe.
    Germany has zeroed in on treatment which a cocktail of drugs, which include a quinine derivative and at least one antibiotic to suppress parasitic bacterial infections.
    South Korea has a completely different approach of test and isolate, but that is only possible in a well disciplined, obedient society.

    This whole pandemic need not be so lethal….if only the USA follows the German lead.
    (Notwithstanding Frau Merkel being in quarantine, because her personal doctor has tested positive.)

    • On March 22, 2020 at 1:31 pm,
      Big Al says:

      Many thanks Professor. He is a business guy and a true humanitarian. (PhD in Econ)

  2. On March 22, 2020 at 1:18 pm,
    irishtony says:
    • On March 22, 2020 at 1:20 pm,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      She…..like all the other political hacks…..are running for cover…..their scheme has been exposed……..she is toast., once the little nazi is exposed…..jmo

  3. On March 22, 2020 at 1:18 pm,
    OOTB Jerry says:

    I have no problem staying home…….since, I have been doing it for years….
    Retirement is Hell……… 🙂
    Home school…..was interesting staying at home….No big deal….love having the kids home., no big deal.
    Being on this site daily , has given me a wealth of info. to share, so staying at home is no big deal.
    Fear Not………..I still think this virus……is planned…….and is being used by the , YOU KNOW WHO…. 🙂

    • On March 22, 2020 at 1:30 pm,
      Big Al says:

      Thanks Box!

      • On March 22, 2020 at 1:33 pm,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        You are welcome OWL……….stay safe……..get some sun shine…..and fresh air…
        and Relax……

  4. On March 22, 2020 at 1:20 pm,
    cfs says:

    To the best of my knowledge there are currently many slight slight mutants of novel SARS coronavirus 2 (2019). There was an early mutation into distinct S and L strains 3 weeks to a month ago. At this point in time there is suspected an as yet un-labelled mutation, which appears to attack younger people more virulently, possibly even without co-morbidity.

    • On March 22, 2020 at 1:32 pm,
      Big Al says:

      I should start referring to you as Professor Encyclopedia!

      • On March 22, 2020 at 1:58 pm,
        cfs says:

        I read a lot, despite lack of sight.
        Definitely not an encyclopedia….I’ve forgotten more than I remember.

        • On March 22, 2020 at 2:07 pm,
          cfs says:

          Of course, I don’t watch TV.
          I believe television to be one of the most destructive tools to learning ever invented because it tends to aim to the lowest common denominator.
          It did not have to be that way.
          But what do I know. In the end we’re all dead anyway.

  5. On March 22, 2020 at 1:24 pm,
    cfs says:

    I should have added the newest virulent mutation is largely confined to N. Italy, but might also be in China.

  6. On March 22, 2020 at 1:28 pm,
    AJ says:
    • On March 22, 2020 at 10:23 pm,
      cfs says:

      Aj, I don’t know where you found that video, BUT THAT WAS THE SLEASIEST PIECE OF OUT OF CONTEXT SPLICING I HAVE SEEN IN A WHILE.

      It was intended to deliberately mislead by taking comment made a week ago with current comments.
      In a rapidly changing time this can give numbers which mislead.
      I don’t think the US has done enough testing, but your video exaggerates the situation and grossly misrepresents the nearly 250,000 tests ACTUALLY PERFORMED by the US.

  7. On March 22, 2020 at 1:30 pm,
    irishtony says:

    Freedom & Liberty…Are like like a bag of sweets , to Govt’s…
    Every year they steal one of your sweets. Then they get Selfice & steal the whole bag at once . Have our Govt’s just got greedy ?.
    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/483758-coronavirus-constitutional-rights-government/

    • On March 22, 2020 at 1:36 pm,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      Notice those are Demowhits Govn. states……….the dems are full of take away rights, they are controlled……by guess who…..deepstate, just like Hilly

      • On March 22, 2020 at 1:47 pm,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        Barr…..DOJ…….is going to slip a quick on over the people, via the help of the Dems…
        corrupt dems…connected to the drug runner, weapons , body parts sellers…..fake cia,
        anybody seen Mueller…..Obama…..Bushy

  8. On March 22, 2020 at 1:39 pm,
    cfs says:

    The Germans know how to treat the virus….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbsEZzgCwmI
    Note the lead singers is wearing gloves even !

  9. On March 22, 2020 at 1:40 pm,
    bonzo says:

    I read today that people with type O blood have a better survival rate against this virus than other blood types. I am type O. How about you guys?

  10. On March 22, 2020 at 1:44 pm,
    irishtony says:
  11. On March 22, 2020 at 1:55 pm,
    cfs says:

    Rand Paul tested positive for covid-19

  12. On March 22, 2020 at 2:10 pm,
    Ebolan says:

    Poor Uncle Joe…you boys willing to pitch in to re-design his mansion??? I’m sure one way or another you will pay for it…after all he’s got important info to tell you how to live your life.

    Joe Biden MIA During National Emergency; Apparently Ceilings In His Mansion ‘Too Low’ For Broadcast
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/joe-biden-mia-during-national-emergency-apparently-ceilings-his-mansion-too-low-broadcast

  13. On March 22, 2020 at 2:11 pm,
    cfs says:

    Task Force (Covid-19) meeting
    https://youtu.be/pUOJapJAqJE

  14. On March 22, 2020 at 4:01 pm,
    LimitDown Kid says:

    Looks like tomorrow is gong to be ugly…markets going limit down…

    • On March 22, 2020 at 4:12 pm,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      Well,……the market is not liking the package the demowhits putting out…..
      Hard to watch Nancy….mumbo jumbo….bs……..I do not know what they came up with.

  15. On March 22, 2020 at 4:28 pm,
    OOTB Jerry says:

    HEY Bill……….you might want to read this………just in case….this is US
    https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/widespread-panic-hits-commercial-property-markets-deals-implode-renters-disappear

    • On March 22, 2020 at 4:28 pm,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      The shutdown is also having an effect on apartment buildings and industrial properties. Nothing is off limits, and it’s sending the commercial property market into chaos.

      Alexi Panagiotakopoulos, partner at Fundamental Income, a real estate strategy firm, said: “On the investor side, there’s widespread panic. There’s downward pressure on every aspect of every asset class.”

      And there’s no way to value a market when you don’t have a bid and an offer – and you’re not sure when the market will “re-open”. Further, there’s no way to try and model the future value of such properties when everyone is unsure of what the real estate landscape will look like when everything is said and done.

      Scott Minerd, chief investment officer at Guggenheim Partners said: “There will likely be long-lasting changes.”

      • On March 22, 2020 at 5:15 pm,
        cfs says:

        Jerry, you might not have seen anything yet. If two major banks go down, they probably most go down. If that happens and mortgages dry up for a period, there is horrendous potential for property loss.
        Based on 1930s example, properties could (note could, not would) go down by 75%
        That all depends if you get your Jubilee. Under current law, banks get the properties ,not the “owners” if mortgages are not paid. I don’t know how that can constitutionally be changed. The mortgage is a contract, which cannot be changed except by agreement of the parties. Can you see the shareholders (owners) of banks agreeing to losing everything, rather than getting something out of bankruptcy ?

        • On March 22, 2020 at 5:48 pm,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          MANNORINO………….
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P33HS9D8Grs
          I told you the VIRUS WAS BS………..as Side distraction………..

        • On March 22, 2020 at 5:51 pm,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          NO Kidding………..I have been saying for YEARS……..GO AND OWN NO MAN>>>>>
          That is biblical……..People are going to be Toast…..
          I said I HAVE NO DEBT……..I have been warning you for Years Professor….

          • On March 22, 2020 at 5:57 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            All banks are scum suckers..money changes …….they know what they are doing….
            The bankruptcy courts are going to be FULL……….
            Usury……..People need to declare their own JUBILEE…..

          • On March 22, 2020 at 6:02 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            I also said……….McMansion Boomers were toast , years ago………I hate this, but,now it is in everyone’s face.

          • On March 22, 2020 at 6:06 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Banks have no intention of forgiving any mortgage……..depend on it…..

          • On March 22, 2020 at 6:10 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            That should be GO AND OWE…..NO MAN……
            I am just ranting… Professor this has nothing again you…appreciate your comments.

          • On March 22, 2020 at 6:41 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            One final note………..I believe most banks will not be able to find the deed , from the last crash……MBS, bundled, have never been un bundled …..I think….

          • On March 22, 2020 at 7:47 pm,
            cfs says:

            I have no debt, but I’m old.
            Most people have mortgages in various stages of being paid off.

          • On March 22, 2020 at 9:03 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Some bank is going down………China
            Today we got a stark reminder of that, when Evergrande Group – China’s second-largest property developer by sales – tumbled in early trading Monday after saying it expects full-year earnings to fall by half.
            China’s Housing Bubble Bursts: Evergrande Cuts Earnings Guidance By 50%

            As Bloomberg first reported, the residential property developer said in an exchange filing Sunday that net profit for 2019 is expected to come in it around 33.5 billion yuan ($4.7 billion), a drop of about 50% from the previous year.
            However, unlike the US where the stock market is the ultimate barometer of the confidence boosting “wealth effect”, in China it has always been about housing as three quarters of Chinese household assets are parked in real estate, compared to only 28% in the US, with the remainder invested in financial assets.
            Needless to say, much of this credit spree was contingent on continued stability in China’s housing market. However, now that that is gone, and with Chinese debt to GDP around 300%, or an all-time high,

          • On March 23, 2020 at 6:20 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            All is Well……..On Monday…………..Powell saved the day…….everyone gets a FREE LUNCH…….

          • On March 23, 2020 at 6:26 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            BIll……….THIS HAPPENED……..AND BILL you are safe………
            Coincidentally, this unprecedented action takes place just hours after real estate billionaire Tom Barrack (and friend of Trump) said the U.S. commercial-mortgage market is on the brink of collapse and predicted a “domino effect” of catastrophic economic consequences if banks and government don’t take prompt action to keep borrowers from defaulting.

    • On March 22, 2020 at 5:34 pm,
      Limit Down Kid says:

      Who is Bill?

  16. On March 22, 2020 at 6:14 pm,
    cfs says:

    The bail-out is the MOST STINKING, REALLY STINKING piece of corruption I have ever seen.
    Unbelievably bad. The Republicans have giveaways to all their buddies, the Democrats have hand-outs to theirs.
    It seems to me that compromise consisted of one party raising its giveaways to match the other parties giveaways, and they kept on alternately raising their wants until they eventually realized they could not go higher without some member of the taxpayers shooting them. The pork barrels are stacked up so high, half the recipients. could buy private islands.
    Remember….NEVER FORGET…THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO MONEY, EXCEPT WHAT IT TAKES FROM YOU.

    • On March 22, 2020 at 6:23 pm,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      THE TWO HEADED SNAKE..Party………..they are all in it together……..all 535 members…

  17. On March 22, 2020 at 6:27 pm,
    cfs says:
  18. On March 22, 2020 at 7:00 pm,
    cfs says:

    The curve is not nearly flattened enough:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51998429

  19. On March 22, 2020 at 7:44 pm,
    Dick Tracy says:

    The overseas markets are down! DT

  20. On March 22, 2020 at 9:30 pm,
    OOTB Jerry says:

    Finally some GOOD NEWS……….Italy ………..A DROP IN CASES………….

    Update (1330ET): After nearly two weeks of reporting one grim record after another, Italy has finally reported a drop in new cases on Sunday. During the day before, Italy confirmed 5,560 new cases of COVID-19 and 651 new deaths. That brings the country to a total of 59,138 cases, and 5,476 deaths. That’s a slower pace of increase than yesterday’s report,

  21. On March 22, 2020 at 9:39 pm,
    OOTB Jerry says:

    China………Ship forced to return to China…..with masks and gloves….
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chang-chinas-real-disease-not-covid-19
    Beijing has, according to Trump’s trade advisor Peter Navarro, already nationalized one American factory making medical masks. Moreover, Fox Business Network’s Maria Bartiromo on air repeatedly said the Chinese forced at least one ship carrying masks, gloves, and other protective gear to the United States to return to China.

  22. On March 22, 2020 at 10:09 pm,
    cfs says:
  23. On March 23, 2020 at 3:37 am,
    Chartster says:

    Pandemic!!!
    The coronavirus is nothing more than the common flue. It is amazing how marketing on the news gets people riled-up.
    On average there is close to 30,000 flue related deaths a year in America. So, what’s different now? – markets and asset prices Is What’s Diifferent Now!

    Fun watching the carnage. Fun reading the posts. 😉

    • On March 23, 2020 at 6:16 am,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      Up the flue she went…………..bye bye flu……………..

      • On March 23, 2020 at 6:18 am,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        The satin satan…………is on the way………Power Puff Powell…….

    • On March 23, 2020 at 7:06 am,
      cfs says:

      You really have not looked at the corona math, have you. Corona deaths at 15,000 plus, and doubling outside China every week. We hit 30K deaths in about 3 weeks, unless we can slow things down.

      • On March 23, 2020 at 7:39 am,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        I think………….Italy…………….just turned the corner………from info yesterday

  24. On March 23, 2020 at 5:07 am,
    AJ says:

    Who is most at risk in the coronavirus crisis: 24 million of the lowest-income workers
    https://www.politico.com/interactives/2020/coronavirus-impact-on-low-income-jobs-by-occupation-chart/

  25. On March 23, 2020 at 5:08 am,
    John Kruschke says:

    Prime Minister Shinzo Abe of Japan suggested today that the Summer Olympics in Tokyo might need to be postponed, hours after Canada and Australia threatened to boycott.
    Not in the news cycle anymore, Fukashima is still an on going concern to say the least, I was looking forward to the Olympics drawing attention to this.
    Oh well, why should I be concerned anyway. The main stream media, 70% who statistically vote Democratic aren’t. Not that I think the other side is any better.

    • On March 23, 2020 at 5:11 am,
      John Kruschke says:

      Abe suggested postponing due to Corona Virus Concerns.

      • On March 23, 2020 at 8:31 am,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        Neither party is great…………it is just one TWO HEADED SNAKE……….Fact…..

        • On March 23, 2020 at 8:33 am,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          John…….come back and post some more…………it is lonely here….. 🙂

  26. On March 23, 2020 at 5:20 am,
    John Kruschke says:
  27. On March 23, 2020 at 5:33 am,
    John Kruschke says:

    “This is your Captain speaking.”
    We had a slight problem with the navigation system. I’ve disengaged the circuit breaker and everything is fine now.
    Soon your flight attendant will be passing out complimentary “Happy Pills”
    Enjoy your flight.

  28. On March 23, 2020 at 7:02 am,
    OOTB Jerry says:

    New one……..I think
    Here are some details: as was widely expected, the Fed created a SPV that will purchase in the secondary market corporate debt issued by eligible issuers. What is more interesting is that the SPV will purchase eligible individual corporate bonds as well as eligible corporate bond portfolios in the form of exchange traded funds (“ETFs”) in the secondary market. In other words, the Fed is now active in the equity market via ETFs, even if focusing only on securities collateralized by IG bonds (for now).
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/fed-now-buying-investment-grade-bond-etfs-lqd

    • On March 23, 2020 at 7:17 am,
      John Kruschke says:

      Jerry,
      This is straight out of Japan’s playbook, compliments of the Brookings Institute and yours truly Ben Bernanke.

      • On March 23, 2020 at 7:21 am,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        SPV, in order not to be susceptible to a capital loss (unlike the BOJ which has suffered trillions in paper losses on its equity ETFs).
        NOTICE THE WORD>>>>>>>>UNLIKE>>>>>>>>BOJ

        • On March 23, 2020 at 7:22 am,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          These guy are Satin Satans…….slick……… 🙂

    • On March 23, 2020 at 7:17 am,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      SPV…………….humm……….When did they create this one……..anyone…..?

      • On March 23, 2020 at 8:26 am,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        ANYONE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KNOW…………know when it was created?……SPV

        • On March 23, 2020 at 8:47 am,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          NEVER MIND>>>>>>>>>>>I GOT THE ANSWER>>>>>>>GO BACK TO SLEEP
          POINTS
          The Federal Reserve announced a barrage of new programs to help keep the market functioning.
          Among the moves is an open-ended commitment to keep buying assets under its quantitative easing measures.
          There are multiple other programs, including one for Main Street business lending and others aimed at keeping credit flowing.
          The Fed will be moving for the first time into corporate bonds, purchasing the investment-grade securities in primary and secondary markets and through exchange-traded funds.

    • On March 23, 2020 at 7:25 am,
      cfs says:

      China has its own stimulus package.
      It will be printing $7 trillion of stimulus, with much of the spending going towards infrastructure.
      (Including a large numbers of coal-fired electricity plants)

      • On March 23, 2020 at 7:30 am,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        Is that a SPV>>>>?
        WHAT just happened………..the creation of a SPV………hidden buying……..
        And as a result……………….
        https://www.zerohedge.com/political/welcome-sweatshop-amerika-next-bailout-will-be-our-last

        • On March 23, 2020 at 7:32 am,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          Imagine if the congress approved a measure to form a public-private partnership between the US Treasury and the Federal Reserve. Can you imagine that?

          • On March 23, 2020 at 7:34 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Imagine if the Central Bank was given the green-light to devour the Treasury, control the country’s “purse strings”, and use nation’s taxing authority to shore up its trillions in ultra-risky leveraged bets, its opaque financially-engineered ponzi-instruments, and its massive speculative debts that have gone pear-shaped leaving a gaping black hole on its balance sheet?

            Well, you won’t have to imagine this scenario for much longer, because the reality is nearly at hand. You see, the traitorous, dumbshit nincompoops in Congress are just a hairs-breadth away from abdicating congress’s crucial power of the purse, which is not only their greatest strength, but also allows the congress to reign in abuses of executive power by controlling the flow of funding. The power of the purse is the supreme power of government which is why the founders entrusted it to the people’s elected representatives in congress.

        • On March 23, 2020 at 8:17 am,
          cfs says:

          SPV….Mnuchin wants no accountability…everything off the books

          SPV…Special Ponzi Vehicle.

          • On March 23, 2020 at 8:24 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            So, you do not know when……it was created…..?

          • On March 23, 2020 at 8:49 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            POINTS
            The Federal Reserve announced a barrage of new programs to help keep the market functioning.
            Among the moves is an open-ended commitment to keep buying assets under its quantitative easing measures.
            There are multiple other programs, including one for Main Street business lending and others aimed at keeping credit flowing.
            The Fed will be moving for the first time into corporate bonds, purchasing the investment-grade securities in primary and secondary markets and through exchange-traded funds.

  29. On March 23, 2020 at 7:22 am,
    John Kruschke says:

    Japans central bank “owns” 70% of the Nikkei. How much do you think the FED will own of the DJIA before they are done?

    • On March 23, 2020 at 7:32 am,
      cfs says:

      I’ve seen statements repeatedly like that, but don’t understand.
      The Central Bank creates money, but gives it to the treasury….the Central bank makes a few percent on the transaction.
      The treasury buys the stock.
      So who owns the stock ?
      IS IT NOT THE GOVERNMENT ? I.E. THE PEOPLE ?

      • On March 23, 2020 at 7:37 am,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        The game just changed , I think , Professor……….via the SPV

      • On March 23, 2020 at 7:54 am,
        John Kruschke says:

        The “money” is based on nothing. Nothing from nothing is nothing. Comprende?

        • On March 23, 2020 at 7:59 am,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          Ah….But, …..tell that to the sheepl John…….. 🙂

  30. On March 23, 2020 at 7:42 am,
    OOTB Jerry says:

    AGAIN>>>>>>>>>>>..anyone ever hear of a SPV??????????????????/

  31. On March 23, 2020 at 7:52 am,
    John Kruschke says:

    Don’t worry, the only “Socialist” in the U S is Bernie Sanders.

  32. On March 23, 2020 at 7:59 am,
    Jim M says:

    This is much more appropriate information than the above
    https://news.yahoo.com/why-nobel-laureate-predicts-quicker-210318391.html

    • On March 23, 2020 at 8:02 am,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      Jimmy…………the VIrus……..is just a side distraction , like we have been saying since FEB 22…..What has happened is the CONTROL.STATE..is now HERE.
      Check the info. on what the Money Changers just did……that is the control of the STATE.

      • On March 23, 2020 at 8:04 am,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        No…..Look here people., no look over there people…….sheepl are completely lost.

  33. On March 23, 2020 at 8:02 am,
    Jim M says:

    And what is happening with treatment: This is not the end of the world – this is a media and politically driven panic….
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-oz-pills-hydroxychloroquine-supply

  34. On March 23, 2020 at 8:06 am,
    OOTB Jerry says:

    MORE …………..Gold is making a statement……folks………..jmo

  35. On March 23, 2020 at 8:07 am,
    Jim M says:

    And my response yesterday to Al and my Friends piece Al posted above:

    All, good idea to stay away from people for a while. Economy will recover.

    Questionable statement from your friend’s comments: No treatments. Treatments are in testing, showing excellent results. The curve will be down sooner than the fear mongers will wish.

    Second thing the writer states that may or may not be true-the virus started in a market? That is not proven, but is the Chinese Communist Party’s narrative.

    Here are some facts that put the local meat market theory in question:
    A Chinese research team published a scientific paper in early February, the paper stated with high probability the virus was a lab mistake from the only Bio level 4 lab in China, located in Wuhan a few blocks from the first reported cases. The scientists’ paper was removed from circulation a week after publication, and the science team was silenced. We do not know where the virus is from, and that makes it hard to prepare for similar circumstances in the future.

    Facts we do know: The Chinese government kept Foreign/WHO/US CDC researchers out, covered up the initial threat causing massive spread, arrested the first doctors who identified the virus as serious, are blaming the virus on the US military, convinced the WHO on Jan 15 to make a statement the virus did not spread human to human (a know lie, as their efforts to control on 7 Jan clearly showed they knew it was human to human), and have threatened to withhold pharmaceuticals from Americans if we question the Chinese narrative-the very narrative your source is presenting.

    The Chinese are publishing propaganda to cover their mistakes, and many US corporate media giants are disseminating that propaganda willingly – as are innocent Americans who foolishly trust CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, Bloomberg all of whom are likely acting to protect market relationships in China.

    This will pass. Ebola, MERS, H1N1, SARS had higher mortality rates – Ebola over 50%, MERS over 30%, but did not create the panic we see today in markets or in the media. The core problem is not just how fast and how easily it spreads, or the impact to the vulnerable, but the perpetuation of fear and political divisions/ hate that seem to have no rational justification by American progressive and corporate leaders.

    What worries me more than the virus? The propaganda to prop an authoritarian regime bent on dominating the global economy, and the fools that spew the CCP lies.

    Thank God we have bold leaders who understands this sublime but serious war for the future.

    • On March 23, 2020 at 8:22 am,
      cfs says:

      I agree with everything you report, Jim.

      But like an attorney friend of mine always says; “Time is of the essence”

  36. On March 23, 2020 at 8:26 am,
    John Kruschke says:

    Jim:
    I going to say this and it will probably be my last post. It is what it is. I’m not here to make friends.
    The virus will pass but the economic calamity we find ourselves in will not.
    Big Al has high marks for you, as was witnessed when you did the character assassination of long time poster Mr. Bob Moriarty.
    I wonder if you ever go back and read some of the crap you post?
    Here, I will help you out.I Quote”How many people have you advised and then cheated? What about Vancouver Markets? Tell me how that works? People bitch endlessly about the system that they use for personal advantage. Great guilt, or just evil?Don’t throw accusations at my moral character with out taking a look at your own.
    OK Jim, What about those Vancouver Markets? Have you even bothered to look at the right side of this web Page? Where do you think those companies are listed?
    Everybody here knows how the market works, if they don’t, they deserve everything they get, including you.
    I would not expected anything less from you as you have been a direct recipient of the system you say all of us in the private sector so despise. At the end of the day I sign my own check, How about you?

    • On March 23, 2020 at 8:50 am,
      Ebolan says:

      Hi John,

      Hope you don’t go away.

      And as far as the system goes in the US, a real patriot has no choice but to hate is government.

      It is systemically corrupt. It is based on lying, cheating and stealing. Pompeo openly bragged about that. Although he did add mass murder which is another characteristic of it.

      • On March 23, 2020 at 8:51 am,
        Ebolan says:

        “Although he did add mass murder which is another characteristic of it.”

        Sorry, should have been “Although he did not add mass murder which is another characteristic of it.”

    • On March 23, 2020 at 8:59 am,
      Jim M says:

      Time will tell John. I see a fairly robust return – there is no underlying economic challenges like in 2008 sub-prime/AIG disaster, 2000 tech fraud bubble, no dem proposed tax bills pending or rising trade deficit like1987. People will go back to work when their is a treatment and the numbers are flat – likely in a week or two.

      And just to address your questions: I’ve been signing my own check for a while now. I was born into poverty, son of 16 year old mother. At 12 years old, I got my first job, cleaning a park, then delivering papers. At 15, I started working as a carpenter, worked over 8 years to pay for my own education as a construction supervisor. Then I chose to serve my country – a country I still believe in. America gave me freedom and opportunity for a poor kid that no other nation offers.

      Please read what Moriarty said about me – without any facts or evidence – I don’t kill innocent people, I don’t hate. I am here to share my experience, views, discuss, and disagree without threats.

      I will answer to God, as will Bob, for how I treat people. We all make mistakes, but I will not sit back and cower when someone trashes me or this Nation. I stand by my words. When I am wrong, I will admit it – and we are all wrong sometimes. But Bob was out of line.
      Appreciate your comments

      • On March 23, 2020 at 9:47 am,
        Ebolan says:

        “…there is no underlying economic challenges like in 2008 sub-prime/AIG disaster…”

        You’ve got to be kidding, right? In 2008 debt was off the charts and it’s even worse now.

        And this is playing out in a number of ways. Just look at the repo market. Have you been paying attention to what has been going on there since the end of last summer?

        There are other systemic problems. The whole system is unsustainable.

        How could you NOT realize we are in the greatest debt bubble in history?

        • On March 23, 2020 at 12:12 pm,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          Jimmy is not an econ major…..nor a history major…….nor a central bank authority…
          Just like I am not a Major in the Army intel group……that knows exactly about the revolving door……..
          Jimmy……I think you are a great guy, and thanks for serving what you think is real.
          This is not to be a smart ass remark, or to slander your intellect. You just know what you have been indoctrinated with……in the MIC……and yes, there is a MIC……and you were part of it…….Go, back and do a history lesson on the CIA, OSS,,,,,in 1945-47…
          Hoping the Good Lord opens your eyes…….if, you are a student of the bible, your eyes will be open……..CENTRAL BANKING is A FRAUD…..The MIC is a FRAUD.

          • On March 23, 2020 at 12:15 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Please accept the above statement…..as IRON SHARPEN IRON…..

          • On March 23, 2020 at 12:23 pm,
            Ebolan says:

            I tell you Jerry, just off the top of my head there were probably 20 other things I could have listed. For instance, the pensions are just getting shredded. CalPERS has lost over 69 billion already. God only knows how high that number will go.

            And the implosion of these goooberment pensions is just one piece of the puzzle. There were so many other “challenges,” to use Jimmy’s term

            And I might add, Jimmy is receiving one of those gooberment pensions. You’d think he’d pay attention to the pension “challenge.”

          • On March 23, 2020 at 12:35 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Ebo, ….I have to agree with you concerning the list….., just goes to show, most have not a clue on central banking and the constitution .

  37. On March 23, 2020 at 8:40 am,
    cfs says:

    Jim,
    I have a disserent, more specific question:
    What are your comments regarding the details of CCP claims ?
    Nemely that the Corona virus was introduced into Wuhan on October 20, 2019 by a Dutch-American operative, named Maatje Benassi ?
    They also claim that the first Dutch person to contract covid-19 was a relative of this person, which supports their claim. And that they can prove that Maatje Benassi was taking part in a bicycle race in Wuhan on October 20, 2019, at a time coincident with the military games.

  38. On March 23, 2020 at 8:42 am,
    cfs says:

    Nemely > Namely

  39. On March 23, 2020 at 8:44 am,
    cfs says:

    Disserent > different

    Memo to self: proof read your posts, you idiot.

  40. On March 23, 2020 at 8:50 am,
    cfs says:

    John Kruschke,
    I agree with you that the economic impact will be very severe, if not world-changing.

  41. On March 23, 2020 at 8:53 am,
    cfs says:

    US death toll overnight went from 409 to 471, and last 24 hour death toll was 131.

    • On March 23, 2020 at 9:10 am,
      Jim M says:

      Numbers are bound to rise, over 22,000 deaths from Flu since Oct.

  42. On March 23, 2020 at 9:12 am,
    Jim M says:

    If the economy fails, it will be due to the politics, not the virus.

  43. On March 23, 2020 at 11:10 am,
    cfs says:
  44. On March 23, 2020 at 12:05 pm,
    Matthew says:

    It’s in the best interest of every government to keep the sheeple scared and they’re good at it…
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/surgeon-general-has-coronavirus-warning-week-it-s-going-get-n1166421

    • On March 23, 2020 at 12:15 pm,
      Matthew says:

      2013:

      THE CABLE: U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News to Americans

      “For decades, a so-called anti-propaganda law prevented the U.S. government’s mammoth broadcasting arm from delivering programming to American audiences. But on July 2, that came silently to an end with the implementation of a new reform passed in January. The result: an unleashing of thousands of hours per week of government-funded radio and TV programs for domestic U.S. consumption…”
      https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/

  45. On March 23, 2020 at 12:19 pm,
    Ebolan says:

    Just brutal. One for the record books…and it just appears to be getting started. The world will never be the same.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-mind-bending-stat-that-puts-this-disastrous-market-in-perspective-2020-03-23?mod=mw_latestnews

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