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Is the ongoing trade war going to be the biggest policy mistake for markets and the economy?

Cory
August 5, 2019

While it didn’t take long for Chine to fire back with their own tariffs against US goods. This is pushing US markets and the US dollar significantly lower while providing another boost to gold and treasuries. Chris Temple joins me today to share his thoughts on the escalation of the trade war and market moves. The overarching question is will these trade wars end up being a major policy mistake which pulls the globe into a full on recession…

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Discussion
56 Comments
    Aug 05, 2019 05:58 AM

    To clarify, the danger is this trade war is morphing ever more into something WELL beyond that.

      b
      Aug 05, 2019 05:51 AM

      Ya, currency wars, then trade wars, then shooting wars.
      Kind of a pattern.

      This pressure the americans are putting on nations especially Iran and China is beyond stupid.
      It makes me think they are stupid euff to use nukes.

        b
        Aug 05, 2019 05:53 AM

        We wait for years for gold to do sumtin and when it finally does they drop a nuke on us.
        Talk about crappy luck.

          Aug 05, 2019 05:28 AM

          They are not going to drop a nuke on anyone…..they need the sheeple to fleece um….
          A little shooting war……is control …who are they going to sell all the drugs, and harvest all the hearts and body parts from, if they nuke everyone………

      Aug 05, 2019 05:27 AM

      It will only get worse from here. China has already shown us where stocks are heading due to trade war tensions.

    ron
    Aug 05, 2019 05:39 AM

    Consumer staples like PG might not be as low risk as you think. Since most are made in China and Tariffs are mostly on consumer goods,

    Aug 05, 2019 05:49 AM

    GDX is up 75% versus the NYSE Composite Index since last September. Most at that time thought the gold sector was going lower and that stocks would rise forever.
    GDX:NYA…
    https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=GDX%3A%24NYA&p=W&yr=3&mn=11&dy=0&id=p07170805207&a=635882742

    Aug 05, 2019 05:19 AM

    SLV is up 1.3% while SPY is down 2.9%. That is very good behavior when you consider how many people (wrongly) assume that silver’s industrial demand is a key price driver.

    S&P 500:
    https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24SPX&p=W&yr=5&mn=11&dy=0&id=p9625284799c&a=413006120

    cfs
    Aug 05, 2019 05:24 AM

    By China lowering its Yuan/RMB to its lowest value in 10 years not statement that Trump is right and Tariffs are working……AND the US consumer is not paying a lot more.

    China is also stopping any buying of U.S. Agricultural goods.
    (But as I have previously stated, that will not seriously effect US sales, because world demand is larger than production.
    Once stored amount of Soy and corn decreases, expect significant price increases.

    Aug 05, 2019 05:51 AM

    Speaking of Agriculture, look at DBA which is a basket of the soft commodity futures. Is it putting in a double bottom? Time will tell.

    Aug 05, 2019 05:52 AM

    Time to have Ned Schmidt on again about his favorite ag stocks in the current environment.

    Aug 05, 2019 05:56 AM

    Sandstorm (SAND) is charging forward on heavy volume today. Must be institutional money.

      Aug 05, 2019 05:16 PM

      Heard some guy , talking about royalty companies as being a great buy , for those not familiar with mining companies….
      Who not surprise me , one bit on the institutional money hopping in….

    Aug 05, 2019 05:00 PM

    Priced in gold, GDX has not yet exceeded its 7/23 high. That’s a negative that will probably be rectified soon.
    https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=GDX%3AGLD&p=D&yr=1&mn=2&dy=0&id=p29070174419&a=680726631

      Aug 05, 2019 05:28 PM

      It’s interesting how the RSI bouced right at the 50 line.

        Aug 05, 2019 05:32 PM

        Yes it is. That sharp, 10%+ correction did not change the bullish picture (well, it did for the better).

          Aug 05, 2019 05:07 PM

          A quick recharge of the batteries.

    Aug 05, 2019 05:13 PM

    Resistance shrinks significantly for GDX above 29.40…
    https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=GDX&p=W&yr=13&mn=6&dy=0&id=p99741395613&a=675431182

    Aug 05, 2019 05:53 PM

    This is hard to believe but I drew the big green circle on the following chart in December, before price entered it…
    https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=GLD&p=W&yr=5&mn=5&dy=0&id=p5815032207c&a=636664586

    Of course the circle doesn’t mean anything but what are the odds that price would move in such a “fitting” way with it — from bottom to top?

    cfs
    Aug 05, 2019 05:21 PM
    Aug 05, 2019 05:45 PM

    … and yet the real #LooneyBinBlowhards like Harry Dent, keep getting paraded out like they have a clue. Here is Mr. Looney right before Gold bottomed in late 2015, and has trekked higher from it’s major bottom at $1045.40 to $1476.50 today.

    ________________________________________________

    > #Gold is doomed.
    06/01/2015 – Harry Dent

    “Gold is doomed. Its price is going to melt to just $700 an ounce… and it’s likely to go a LOT LOWER.”

    https://dentresearch.com/archives/gold-is-doomed-learn-more-here/

      Aug 05, 2019 05:46 PM

      #WrongoInTheCongo

        Aug 05, 2019 05:53 PM

        You can add fools like Eric Townsend and Brent Johnson to that list.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FTHP1d_64g

          Aug 05, 2019 05:56 PM

          Or even Jim Rogers, who was still waiting for $950 gold or lower with tweety.

          Whoops!

          http://schrts.co/sCSxkaRH

            Aug 05, 2019 05:28 PM

            As far as I know, Jim said that well before the 2015 low. To casually throw around the possibility of a 50% correction early in the decline isn’t half as foolish as the two guys giving their views in January of this year.
            Jim is not a chart guy and always says he’s the worst timer so it might be a stretch to treat his number as an official call in the first place. In addition, he’s a billionaire with a big following so he just might make a habit of sharing numbers that will keep a lot of investors from bidding against him when HE is buying.

            And Eric Townsend? I guess he belongs on that stage if Timothy Sykes does.

            Aug 05, 2019 05:23 PM

            That’s a fair point as initially Jim Rogers threw out $900-$950 in 2013, but he reiterated in 2015 that he wait until then to start buying (missing the bottom and turn into 2016), and reiterated again in 2017 that he was still waiting for a pullback in Gold to aroun $900 to start buying, so if his many followers listened to Mr Bow Tie, then they all would have missed the run from $1045.40 to $1476.50 thus far.

            The final washout below $1000 and lower never came.

            I do agree that people that were making claims for a final washout earlier this year were even more wrong-footed, and didn’t see what had already unfolded the last few years.

        Aug 05, 2019 05:53 PM

        4 year Gold Chart showing the bull market unfold: (nowhere close to the $700) 😉

        http://schrts.co/sCSxkaRH

    Aug 05, 2019 05:20 PM

    Gold: the unbearable brightness unseen

    Greg Nolan – August 5, 2019

    https://equity.guru/2019/08/05/gold-unbearable-brightness-unseen/

    Aug 05, 2019 05:15 PM

    $MXSG Mexus pours gold at its Santa Elena mine

    @nasdaq – 5 Aug 2019

    The company recovered gold from its first heap leach pad using its Merrill Crowe gold recovery system. The remaining precipitate smelting is expected to take 5 days. “This is a monumental moment for Mexus. It has taken years with many ups and downs but through hard work and the dedication of our staff we’ve been able to meet this long sought-after goal. Mexus looks forward to building out the Santa Elena mine,” added Mexus CEO, Paul Thompson Sr.

    http://mexusgoldus.com/mexus-pours-gold-at-its-santa-elena-mine/

      Aug 05, 2019 05:32 PM

      That’s funny coming from “one more washout” Chartster.
      I think I’ll sell after you’ve repeatedly called for one last spike.

    Aug 06, 2019 06:06 AM

    No chance of a wash, eh?

    Aug 06, 2019 06:56 AM

    Uranium Investing Made Simple by Mike Alkin, Sachem Cove. Don’t Get Distracted by The Small Stuff

    @CRUXinvestor on 6 Aug 2019

    – Section 232: What Happened and was it Necessary?
    – US Reactors, Regulations, Costs when compared to other Energy Sources
    – 90 Day Working Group
    – Investment Hacks and What Should you Look for in Companies?
    – The Growing Gap of Supply and Demand
    – Inelastic Nature of Price & Possible Catalyst Moments
    – Investor psyche
    – Cameco’s recent Conference Call

    https://ceo.ca/@cruxinvestor/uranium-investing-made-simple-by-mike-alkin-sachem-cove-dont-get-distracted-by-the-small-stuff

    Aug 06, 2019 06:03 AM

    (ORL) (ORE.AX) (OROCF) Orocobre Limited – Naraha Lithium Hydroxide Plant Groundbreaking Ceremony
    (08/05/2019)

    “The Naraha Plant, the first of its kind to be built in Japan, is designed to convert primary grade lithium carbonate feedstock sourced from the Olaroz Lithium Facility into purified battery grade lithium hydroxide. Sales of lithium hydroxide will be managed by TTC as exclusive sales agent under a similar joint marketing arrangement to that operating for lithium carbonate from the Olaroz Lithium Facility. The majority of production is expected to be delivered to the Japanese battery industry.”

    https://www.orocobre.com/wp/?mdocs-file=5910

    Aug 06, 2019 06:20 AM

    Precious Metals Video Update: Gold in Foreign Currencies Hits All Time High
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UeenXIWmTk

    Aug 06, 2019 06:26 AM

    $1472………looking good……….

      Aug 06, 2019 06:35 AM

      One thing for sure …….The action and dumping is totally different , and has been for a few months…………jmo

    Aug 06, 2019 06:03 AM

    I’m starting to look for “the cartel” on milk cartons when I go to the store.. .what happened to all of them??

      Aug 06, 2019 06:43 AM

      They got rounded up with the milk cartons…….

        Aug 06, 2019 06:12 PM

        call the CME group…..Carton of Milk for Everyone…….