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Hour 2 – Politics and The US Ecomomy

Cory
October 19, 2019
Full 2nd Hour

A bit of different format this week for the second hour. Please let us know what you think.

  • Segment 1and 2 – Josh Phillip Senior Investigative Reporter for The Epoch Times opines on the dangers to America and the rest of the world of mainland China.
  • Segment 3 and 4 – Big Al discusses the American economic environment with Rick Rule, Chairman of Sprott Global.

Segment 1
Segment 2
Segment 3
Segment 4
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215 Comments
    Oct 19, 2019 19:38 AM

    Al, many thanks for the new format. I really like it. First time that I listen to the politics show. And I really liked both parts. It is always a pleasure to listen to a smart person as Rick is. Please do more discussions on Chinese strategy.

      Oct 19, 2019 19:12 AM

      Thank you Thomas. I truly appreciate your comments. Political opinions are great, but very difficult more often than not to really learn from.

      Appreciate having you with us Thomas.

    Oct 19, 2019 19:58 AM

    Thanks for the show but one question: where is is the KER OOTB Weekly Webb report? Didn’t the tape get made?

      Oct 19, 2019 19:48 AM

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Hkl6ayKp4
      Info………on Uranium One….attempt to bury the case.
      …and Flynn case.

        Oct 19, 2019 19:58 AM

        Brass Balls…….talks about info on Tulsi Gabbard……33 min mark……

          Oct 19, 2019 19:10 AM

          Lisa Page info……..uncovered in Ohio
          Money maker for the cabal…..via…..ciashadow govt.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:30 AM

            Jerry, Webb is a whirlwind of info and I can’t keep up.

            I passed on one of your Webb links to a “conservative” I know. He told me he couldn’t make heads or tail of what Webb was talking about because “he rambles” and his liberal side kick told me “that guy is insane.” You see the kind of pecker heads I get to deal with every day?

            Anyway, we need someone to distill down/summarize what Webb is saying. Also, if you watch a Webb video with no background or context it’s easy to get lost in all the details he mentions which is what I think happened to the “conservative.” I think for him it was like tuning into to the middle of a movie having no idea what occurred earlier.

            No offense, JMO.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:39 AM

            Ebo………I agree 100%……..The first time I tuned in……I did not have a clue what he was talking about..It took me about two weeks or so.
            I can see where some do not get what he is talking about, at first. The longer you watch , the more details come to light, as to the REAL DEEP STATE CIASHADOW GOVT, we have had for the last 70 yrs.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:49 AM

            Unfortunately the USA……..has been taken over …….by the ciashadowgovt……and congress is in on the money laundering along with the FED
            The basic story………..congress people get compromised (as Dave Janta said),
            they take the bribes, then become part of the scheme, that has been taking place for the last 70 yrs. or longer., ..once, part of the scheme, they get a few wrist slaps, then game continues…Anyone in congress more than two terms , is most likely in on the scam.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:52 AM

            The first court case, Lambert and Transport Logistics……..is merely Mueller and friends, scamming the system, with Uranium One.
            Mueller, goes way back…..Check his family record….

            Oct 19, 2019 19:24 AM

            Jerry, does OWL follow/understand the intricacies of any of this stuff? Any chance of him interviewing Webb?

        Oct 19, 2019 19:04 AM

        If you can get me permission to post this link, I will do it immediately. Let me know..

          Oct 19, 2019 19:27 AM

          Yes, Eddy, Al does understand the “intricacies of this stuff” as you put it

            Oct 19, 2019 19:06 PM

            That’s great to hear!

            Maybe you could conduct an interview with Webb or if not, maybe OOTB, if not maybe just provide a weekly summary of the things Webb is talking about as it is very detailed Deep State criminality.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:07 PM

            If, you (Owl) posted the link, you would lose 90% of your audience ……

            Oct 19, 2019 19:32 PM

            OWL will do it anyway. Why? THE ANSWER IS HERE.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfHnzYEHAow

            Oct 19, 2019 19:33 PM

            DUTY!

            Oct 19, 2019 19:36 PM

            EVEN WHEN YOU ARE GETTING YOUR FACE BEAT IN!

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_qhLRUh66k&feature=youtu.be&t=314

            Oct 19, 2019 19:47 PM

            A LEFT TO THE RIBS OF THE DEEP STATE!

            Oct 19, 2019 19:00 PM

            And nobody here will say why doesn’t he quit. And if he hits a bad note we will just say what a pity but that won’t happen so let’s do it. Mr. Big Al Korelin can hit the high notes just like this guy. 🙂

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oFW6rmtUXY

            Oct 19, 2019 19:03 PM

            Mr. Big Al Korelin can do anything…run marathons while smoking and drinking beer and even singing Cara Mia!

            Oct 19, 2019 19:19 PM

            Yup, those Awans…and Woosieman Schultz…Clinton emails…Biden…Obammy…all linked together.

            I sure hope OWL watches and gets that book.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:24 PM

            Blowsi…the war funding…foreign gooberments and intelligence agencies…weapons and drugs…human trafficking…Deep State corruption beyond belief…what happens when corruption runs wild…all End of Empire stuff…empires implode in corruption.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:29 PM

            …and of course taxes and debt!

            Oct 19, 2019 19:38 PM

            Hilly is off the Hook…….State Dept….finds no fault with hiding the 33,000 EMAILS

    Oct 19, 2019 19:08 AM

    The good news with China is that the battles are along economic and geopolitical issues….The actual people are not programed (yet) to hate and despise the western world as in our struggles with radical Islam

      Oct 19, 2019 19:05 AM

      What Trade War? Chinese Sneakerheads Are Making Bank on the Resale Market

      Robb Report Martin Lerma – October 18, 2019

      “Beset by a trade war with the United States and stiffer global competition, China’s economy has dropped to its lowest rate of growth in nearly 30 years. But a slumping GDP hasn’t stopped a new generation of entrepreneurs from capitalizing on one perennial status symbol––sneakers––with eye-popping returns as a reward.”

      “According to Bloomberg, Chinese millennials are making bank in the sneaker resale market, aided by mobile technologies, specifically apps like Nice and Poizon.”

      https://robbreport.com/style/footwear/chinese-sneakerheads-are-turning-major-profit-2875116/

        Oct 19, 2019 19:09 AM

        Chinese Tariffs Hit U.S. Car Sales, Jobs in Trade-Heavy Counties

        Bloomberg News – October 8, 2019

        “Using data on nationwide car sales in 2018 as a substitute for consumption, he estimated that auto sales growth in the worst-affected counties were about 2.5 percentage points lower than in low-tariff counties. However, that may underestimate the effect, as while some consumers may still have bought a car, it may have been a cheaper model than what they otherwise would have purchased.”

        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-08/chinese-tariffs-hit-u-s-car-sales-jobs-in-trade-heavy-counties

          Oct 19, 2019 19:16 AM

          Interesting article article, Excelsior, thanks.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:20 AM

            Thanks Big Al. It is just more excitement from the on-going Trade Wars….

            This passage was also interesting in that same article as it relates to agricultural products:

            ______________________________________________

            “In the trade war with the U.S., China’s tariffs have targeted agricultural goods for a couple main reasons: They make up a large proportion of U.S. exports to China, but also because they strike at the heart of President Donald Trump’s base of support in farm country.”

            “Beijing’s targeted strategy has hit consumption and jobs in the areas of the U.S. most exposed to trade with China such as the agriculture-dependent states, according to new research, but had a much lower or almost zero impact on other parts of the nation. Due to the tariffs, economist Michael Waugh estimates in his paper that there was about $9.3 billion in lost U.S. car sales alone due to the tariffs, with $2.3 billion of that in the quarter of counties most affected by the higher punitive Chinese measures.”

            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-08/chinese-tariffs-hit-u-s-car-sales-jobs-in-trade-heavy-counties

            Oct 19, 2019 19:59 PM

            Trump Tariffs Slowing Global Economy, Strangling Shale Oil Revolution

            Chris Tomlinson Oct. 18, 2019

            “Experts are in a raging debate over the future of North American oil production, but only the self-proclaimed Tariff Man has control over the fate of the shale drilling revolution.”

            “President Donald Trump’s belligerent approach to international trade is stifling the global economy and slowing demand for oil. Turning allies into enemies has squelched business investment, leaving the world awash with surplus energy.”

            “If the Tariff Man does not change his strategy, a global recession could spell the end of the oil and gas renaissance in Texas, leading to global supply problems and price hikes in the long run.”

            https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/columnists/tomlinson/article/Trump-tariffs-slowing-global-economy-strangling-14542495.php

        Oct 19, 2019 19:14 AM

        To me, this was a fascinating article, Excelsior. Most folks who I see daily, even many in my age group, are now wearing sneakers daily. Kathy and I go to the Belling-ham Symphony monthly and I was amazed at just how many folks there are wearing sneakers that are in the price range of dress shoes make by Alan Edmund’s.

          Oct 19, 2019 19:17 AM

          Yes, for some reason, sneakers have become at status statement over the last few decades, just like jewelry, fine clothing, or what kind of car someone drives.

          It is all rather silly from one perspective, however, these Chinese millenials are making hay while the sun is shining. Markets should never underestimate the entreprenueral spirit. 🙂

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            Oct 19, 2019 19:30 AM

            Sneakers are a status statement?
            Thats hilarious.

            You dont think that maybe people have discovered sneakers are much more comfortable than dress shoes?

            Oct 19, 2019 19:41 AM

            haha! Yeah, they are definitely more comfortable, but that isn’t what is fueling the “Sneaker Resale Market” — it is low supply and high demand creating the mark up.

            My buddy has been going to Cuba for about 2 decades, and he relayed so many stories of people staring at his feet when he’d go out in with Adidas or Nike sneakers on. They didn’t do that when he wore dress shoes.

            People there will pay a small fortune to get a pair of name brand sneakers and be the envy of their social circle…. so yeah, they’ve become status symbols in many counties, just like Jeans, or designer purses.

            Why do women pay $400 or $800 or $1200 for a purse? Same reason.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:29 PM

            From Converse to Air Jordans, sneakers have been a status symbol for decades — but millennials are redefining what that means in 3 major ways

            Hillary Hoffower Mar 22, 2019

            “Balenciaga Triple S sneakers retail for around $900.”

            “Expensive shoes have surpassed luxury handbags as the latest status symbol.”

            “Sneakers are at the forefront of the trend, driven in large part by millennials’ desire for comfort and the consequent rise in athleisure — a reflection of how they live and work today, according to an NPD Group analyst.”

            “But footwear has long been used as a status symbol — its symbolism has just evolved as function has taken on more importance among millennials.”

            Take a walk in a millennial’s shoes, and you could find out a lot about their owner.

            “Balenciaga’s Triple S sneakers might find you seated in the front row of a fashion show as a fashion editor or celebrity. Lanvin low-tops might take you around Silicon Valley as a tech CEO. And No.6 clogs just might make you a Brooklyn mom pushing a stroller down Flatbush Avenue.”

            “These shoes may represent different worlds, but they all have one thing in common: high price tags that spell out the new look of luxury. Retail prices start at $900, $495, and $300 for each, respectively.”

            “But people are willing to pay big bucks for something that symbolizes their status — and nothing says who’s who like a pair of pricey shoes.”

            “Footwear is the most powerful category in the online luxury market, according to a recent report by The NPD Group. Consumers are even spending more money on expensive shoes than luxury handbags — $794 on one pair on average, Business Insider’s Mary Hanbury reported.”

            “At the forefront of this trend? Sneakers — for which you can largely thank millennials and their desire for comfort and athleisure. ”

            “A casual and comfortable lifestyle has become the norm, and we see this reflected in consumers’ footwear and apparel choices. And, in some cases, sneakers are the new status items,” Goldstein said.

            “But sneakers as a status symbol isn’t an entirely new concept — it’s just become more pronounced and diverse due to the millennial lifestyle. What’s happening now is a threefold reinvention of the sneaker as a status symbol.”

            https://www.businessinsider.com/millennials-sneakers-status-symbol-luxury-footwear-style-2019-3

      Oct 19, 2019 19:22 AM

      China accused of running secret ‘rape and torture’ camps holding one million Muslims

      By Gursimran Hans – Sat, Oct 19, 2019

      “A woman from Xinjiang has spoken about her treatment in a re-education camp administered by the Chinese government.”

      “At the end of 2016, the police began arresting people at night, secretly.

      “It was a socially and politically uncertain period. Cameras appeared in every public space; the security forces stepped up their presence. At one stage, DNA samples were taken from all members of minorities in the region and our telephone SIM cards were taken from us.”

      https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1192785/China-news-Uyghur-political-prisoners-Xinjiang-Islam-religion-reeducation-torture

      Oct 19, 2019 19:08 AM

      Now, that is a very good point Larry. My opinion stems from what I kind of think the difference in intelligence levels between the two groups happens to be.

      What do you think?

        Oct 19, 2019 19:06 PM

        Al-Obviously it is really hard to fully grasp the Islamic submission to the perfect Allah or even the communist citizens suppression and repression by the all powerful central state…But somehow, communism has succeeded in controlling people due to fear of central state power but all while without actually hating others or all the other non communists on the planet( I understand party thugs may hate)……Whereas Islam has used the hatred of all others, that is, those non-believers in Mohamed’s teachings to propel the states agenda of global caliphate…Both are so different and similar at the same time…… Both are supremely anti-human and suppressive and anti freedom….WOW, both those methods of crowd control elicit deep claustrophobic fears within me…….Islamism seems to imperialistic and expansionist based on their doctrine and history…Whereas China just wants to be left alone historically and has no doctrinal history of chronic warfare against the west……

        They both stink for the members of those societies and this is what the liberal democrats want to vote in right here…Do you thing Hong Kong would already be silenced if they had the second amendment right?

    Oct 19, 2019 19:25 AM

    Trump Campaign To Sue CNN For “Substantial Payment” After Project Veritas Undercover Exposé

    The Trump administration plans to sue CNN over bias and “wrongful practices” following revelations contained in a recent Project Veritas undercover exposé, who obtained the footage from CNN insider Carey Poarch.

    In a four-page letter to CNN, its CEO Jeff Zucker and Executive VP David Vigilante, Trump attorney Charles J. Harder provided several examples of bias against Trump, who seeks “a substantial payment of damages.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-campaign-sue-cnn-substantial-payment-after-project-veritas-undercover-expose

      Oct 19, 2019 19:19 AM

      What odds do you give this suit going in the favor of Trump?

        Oct 20, 2019 20:10 PM

        Al, Trump will be on a mission. They settle out of court with an apology.

    Oct 19, 2019 19:42 AM

    Bob Moriarty: There Is No Rush Like A Gold Rush

    by Ceo Technician (@Goldfinger) – October 19, 2019 – Energy and Gold Ltd

    >> Bob Moriarty: “Here’s what’s funny, and we know that now, because somebody just hit an Iranian tanker with a couple of missiles on Friday. Somebody is trying to stir shit up in the Middle East. That’s all it is. The whole thing.”

    “The attack on the Iranian tanker was a very real attack but it was part of a false flag.”

    > Goldfinger: “Yeah. What do you make of this thing? Trump pulling U.S. forces out of Syria, allowing Turkey to just run through Northern Syria.”

    >> Bob Moriarty: “He scammed Turkey.”

    > Goldfinger: “He scammed Turkey?”

    >> Bob Moriarty: “Sure, of course. He knew he would attack, but he also knew the Kurds would turn to the Syrian government for protection and the Russians. The Russians turned around and said to Turkey “go home”. It’s really funny because it’s a total scam.”

    “He’s managed to get Turkey to back down. He’s by and large got the Americans out of Syria. We were not there legally. We weren’t there doing anything for anybody. The Kurds are just one more gang of people trying to kill other people over there.”

    “Syria has a democratically elected government and we need to leave them alone.”

    > Goldfinger: “So, you think it’s a good move for the U.S. to get all of our troops out of Syria?”

    >> Bob Moriarty: “Absolutely, we were there illegally. We had no strategic interest whatsoever. It wasn’t our war. It was a war for Israel and it was wrong.”

    > Goldfinger: “What do you think about Turkey, obviously is not a free country… You could say it’s democratic, but it’s really not.”

    >> Bob Moriarty: No it’s not.

    > Goldfinger: “It’s run by one man. They have an interest in the Middle East. They were supporting the Islamic State for several years. Now, they have a chance to help it regroup and let the Islamic State form again.”

    >> Bob Moriarty: “Not really. Okay. The Islamic State was a creature created by the United States and Saudi Arabia in deceiving the Sunnis in Iraq, okay? The United States, Saudi Arabia and Turkey and Israel, collaborated to attack Syria.”

    > Goldfinger: “They were talking about attacking the Islamic State but in fact the United States was paying for the weapons and the people to attack Assad.”

    >> Bob Moriarty: “We were the terrorists. My nephew was killed as a result of the King of Jordan ordering one of his people to kill some special forces guys to get a message to the CIA that the terrorists wanted air support.”

    “It’s the biggest mess. I’m not a big Trump fan, but he’s finally done the right thing. We have no business in Syria whatsoever. The Russians and the Syrians have stood up to Turkey and we need to go home and stop being so stupid.”

    “Remember those convoys of oil trucks going to Turkey?”

    > Goldfinger: “Yeah.”

    >> Bob Moriarty: “The amazing thing is, from an attack pilot’s point of view, of course I was a fighter attack pilot, flying the F-4, I would have killed to have a target like that. You could have started firing your guns and fired for five miles and created the world’s biggest bonfire.”

    “All that oil was going to Turkey and Erdogan’s son, was selling it. It is just so corrupt over there. The mainstream media was lying about everything that’s going on. They’re so anti-Trump that it’s, “Oh, my God, we deserted the Kurds.”

    http://energyandgold.com/2019/10/19/bob-moriarty-there-is-no-rush-like-a-gold-rush/

      Oct 19, 2019 19:02 AM

      continuing on from the piece above: ^^
      _______________________________________________________

      > Goldfinger: “Yeah, well I mean, Trump has not been doing himself a lot of favors. I believe that his style of Presidency, the way that he holds the office, so to speak, through Twitter, is really absurd. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and I think a lot of other people’s mouths.”

      “Also, the way he’s so willing to attack anybody at the drop of a hat including those people who have previously supported him. He always wants loyalty from people, yet he has no loyalty to anyone. It’s proven over and over again.”

      “If you read the transcript of the Ukraine call, it reads like he was asking them to do a favor for him against Biden, his likely opponent in 2020, which is using the office of the Presidency for his own personal gain, which is not appropriate, not okay.”

      >> Bob Moriarty: “Yeah, but here’s what’s really funny. There’s a piece that we posted today by Matt Taibbi. Matt Taibbi is not a Trump fan. You should read the piece, because in the piece, he says, as big a buffoon as Trump is, people need to realize, the opposition to Trump is far worse.”

      “That’s true. This is a coup that’s been in progress since before the election. Here’s what’s totally crazy and everybody’s ignoring this. Governments never get better after they start picking whatever thug’s going to take over through a coup.”

      “That’s not the beginning of a democracy. That’s the end of a democracy. I think that Trump’s a jackass. I think he’s a buffoon. The idea of using Twitter as President of the United States, I mean Twitter is for 12-year-olds. However, he’s not as bad as the opposition.”

      “This whole thing… Joe Biden, okay, threatened Ukraine absolutely to protect his son who is being bribed okay? What the hell was a crack head getting paid 50 grand a month for, doing something…The guy knows nothing about the oil business and he’s making 600 grand a year, because his name’s Biden. Biden is as corrupt as Trump is, Biden’s 50 times more corrupt.”

      > Goldfinger: “Yeah. It’s an unsavory choice that we face in this country next year. If the candidates really are Trump vs. either Warren, Sanders or Biden. It’s just an awful choice, especially for an investor in the resource sector who may be socially liberal but more of a fiscal conservative.”

      >> Bob Moriarty: “You’re saying it’s a bad thing for investors in resource areas. You are absolutely dead wrong. This is the end of empire. The smartest Democrat is Tulsi Gabbard, and they just ran her ass out of town, because she said, “Why is the United States fighting all these stupid wars?”

      “Every other Democrat candidate, sounds like a raging fool. You have Pocahontas, you have Sanders, who just had a heart attack. You’ve got Hilary Clinton trying to come back in. These guys, my God, it’s like going to the circus and watching the clowns perform.”

      “It’s like we got the fat woman, and we got the weird guy and we have the contortionist. These people are incredible, and we’re supposed to be telling the world, these are the best and the brightest? We’ve got the biggest bunch of clowns running for office that we’ve had in American history. Some idiot’s saying, “Free college, free medical care for illegals, free, free, free, free.” It’s going to cost $94 trillion and the one thing she won’t answer is who’s going to pay for it?”

      http://energyandgold.com/2019/10/19/bob-moriarty-there-is-no-rush-like-a-gold-rush/

        Oct 19, 2019 19:09 AM

        We’re In A Permanent Coup

        Americans might soon wish they just waited to vote their way out of the Trump era

        Oct 11 – by Matt Taibbi

        “When the KGB in 1991 tried to reassume control of the crumbling Soviet Union by placing Mikhail Gorbachev under arrest and attempting to seize Moscow, logistics ruled. Boris Yeltsin’s crew drove to the Russian White House in ordinary cars, beating KGB coup plotters who were trying to reach the seat of Russian government in armored vehicles. A key moment came when one of Yeltsin’s men, Alexander Rutskoi – who two years later would himself lead a coup against Yeltsin – prevailed upon a Major in a tank unit to defy KGB orders and turn on the “criminals.”

        “We have long been spared this madness in America. Our head-counting ceremony was Election Day. We did it once every four years.”

        “That’s all over, in the Trump era…”

        https://taibbi.substack.com/p/were-in-a-permanent-coup

        Oct 19, 2019 19:27 AM

        Uh-Oh – Something tells me Tulsi just signed up for trouble by going after Hilldabeast.

        We’ll likely read of some unfortunate health complication or weight-lifting accident in the next few weeks.

        ______________________________________________________________________

        Tulsi Gabbard @TulsiGabbard

        “Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton. You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain. From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a …”

        “… concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and …”

        “… powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose. ”

        “It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly.”

        1:20 PM – 18 Oct 2019

        https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1185289626409406464

          Oct 19, 2019 19:35 AM

          Ever think…….Gabby is a Plant…………..

            Oct 19, 2019 19:38 AM

            Posted above George Webb………….lol

            Oct 19, 2019 19:57 AM

            Sure Gabby is a Plant…. Hillary is a Plant…. Trump is a plant….. Obama was a plant….

            I’m a Political Atheist and don’t believe in any of them as the answer or our saviors.

            That post just seemed to be Gabbard stirring the pot to get Hillary into the race.

            I would be surprised at all to see this come back down to Hillary vs Trump again in 2020.

            As Bob M. state above:

            “Every other Democrat candidate, sounds like a raging fool. You have Pocahontas, you have Sanders, who just had a heart attack. You’ve got Hilary Clinton trying to come back in. These guys, my God, it’s like going to the circus and watching the clowns perform.”

            Oct 19, 2019 19:58 AM

            would = wouldn’t

            I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see this come back down to Hillary vs Trump again in 2020.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:00 AM

            speaking of Obummer being a plant. Here’s a glance back at his appearance on “Behind 2 Ferns”.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnW3xkHxIEQ

            Oct 19, 2019 19:02 AM

            Nothing would surprise me………..Since it is ALL controlled by the ELITES……and Aliens(lol) of course……

            Oct 19, 2019 19:14 AM

            And just who is at the very top of the pyramid ………. 🙂

            Oct 19, 2019 19:15 AM

            Also some religious groups deny the aliens, but they believe in something just as etheric, but with less evidence… Fallen Angels. (lol)

            Same group, different names, both came down the from the skies to manipulate and control the sheeple. Same outcome.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:20 AM

            Yep – it was originally a plural term. That is why is says “Let US create them in OUR image.” – Fallen Angels, Aliens, Elohim… whateva

            Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים [ʔɛloːˈhim]) is a word in the Hebrew Bible, which sometimes means deities in the plural,[1][2] and elsewhere refers to a single deity, particularly (but not always) the Jewish God.[1][2]

            The word is identical to the usual plural of el, meaning gods or magistrates, and is cognate to the ‘l-h-m found in Ugaritic, where it is used for the pantheon of Canaanite gods, the children of El, and conventionally vocalized as “Elohim”. Most uses of the term Elohim in the later Hebrew text imply a view that is at least monolatrist at the time of writing, and such usage (in the singular), as a proper title for the supreme deity, is generally not considered to be synonymous with the term elohim, “gods” (plural, simple noun).

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim

            Oct 19, 2019 19:24 AM

            The only crontrol we really have is the freedom of choice in our hearts and minds…. for now.

            When we are done having social credit scores like they do in China where we are forced to digest Big Brother’s message to get insurance or travel on a plane, then the indoctrination camps that our public schools will have spread through technolgy to be a global indoctination camps through a smart phone. Hell, soon people will just implant the internet right into their bodies and go full on Transhumanist.

            At that point, free thinking dies a painful death in lieu of the “global brain.”

            Enjoy the free air while it still blows upon us.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:30 AM

            SHAD……….Not going down the road of religion with you……we said long ago….this was not a religious site….

            Oct 19, 2019 19:43 AM

            Jerry – That is fine, I’m not interested in discussion religion on here, and completely agree. We were discussing poltical control over humans, and religions are just one rung on that ladder of mental control and conditioning of the sheeple.

            We were discussing the “Elites” and they track their blueblood ancenstry and are obsessed with bloodlines for a reason. Follow the yellow brick road.

            The point was about freedom of thinking, free of conditioned programmed beliefs.

            That is true freedom.

            Cheers!

            Oct 20, 2019 20:48 AM

            How in the world do you folks think Trump is a plant? Every neocon, socialist and the corrupt media is against him.
            A plant wouldn’t lower taxes, get out of TPP, get out of the Paris accord, what to secure the boarder, balance the trade deficit, and the list goes on.

            He’s the same as he was 32 years ago.
            https://youtu.be/A8wJc7vHcTs

            Oct 20, 2019 20:04 AM

            Never said TRUMP was a plant……….just for your info.On October 19, 2019 at 7:35 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:
            Ever think…….Gabby is a Plant…………

            Oct 20, 2019 20:36 AM

            Chartster – I don’t believe anyone gets elected by accident and Trumps handlers are the same Zionist swamp creatures that profited from 911 (and got Trump to completely change his opinion on if the buildings fell). This is why Trump was so keen to move Israel’s capitol back to Jerusalem to keep his masters happy.

            If anyone actually believes Trump is free from handlers or isn’t their puppet then they haven’t dug deep enough and are believing the coverstory that he is a “maverick” just like John McCain was…. (not).

            Here is a photo from Trumps inauguration that has a good list of cronies to start with for investing who’s calling the shots. No different than the Saudis & Zionists calling the shots with the Bushes, or the Russians and Brussels for the EU controling the Clintons. It would be nice to think of someone truly free of the swamp, but that is naive thinking.

            http://cdn.ceo.ca/1eqpa0m-Trump%20Donors%20Inauguration%20Photo.jpg

            Oct 20, 2019 20:39 AM

            investing = investigating (regarding who is and has been pulling Trumps strings)

            Oct 20, 2019 20:13 PM

            Here is one of the most telling videos of how Trump is controlled by his Zionist handlers.

            This was Trumps initial reaction to 911 that there was no way planes could have brought down those buildings due to the reinforced fire retardant steel frame, and Trump believed there were BOMBS used to take down the those buildings.

            Then after he called his Zionist buddies in NY that owned the buildings, he immediately changed this view, got on board with the approved “narrative” and hit the media with a completely different story that it was a shame that the planes took down the buildings. (WTF??)

            This VIDEO below of Trump at this word has almost been completely scrubbed from the internet and now most of the first Trump response videos are about him bragging about his building at 40 being the tallest again. This is also true, but is a diversion from what the current President of the United States actually said about whether planes were enough to take down the Twin Towers on 911.
            ____________________________________________________

            >> Trump saw on 9/11/2001: bombs were used in WTC

            TruthMakesPeace

            https://youtu.be/Rt-ldMj9y9w?t=1

            Oct 20, 2019 20:27 PM

            Here’s what should raise a red flag for anyone with 2 braincells to rub together, regarding whether Trump can be bought or controlled:

            Just hours after claiming there was no way planes alone could have penetrated the steel on both sides of the building, much less collapse them, and that Trump went as far as claiming there must have been bombs used, he COMPLETELY did a flip on his “take” and said it was the jets and jet fuel that was more than enough to pancake those buildings. This complete reversal after he talked with (Silverstein) should make your skin crawl if you have a conscience.

            https://youtu.be/ZYXygIcIJ6I?t=160

            Oct 20, 2019 20:08 PM

            Ex,
            If Trump was deep state, why is the deep state putting on play after play to remove him? They know the game is coming to an end. Trump and patriots as well as global partners are putting an end to globalist cabal control. (they know it)

            He will expose 9/11, after many other things are exposed. Things like the JFK assassination and the Ronald Reagan shooting.

            American isn’t ready to hear the truth about 9/11 , yet.

            Oct 20, 2019 20:41 PM

            Trump isn’t deep state, he’s just a figure head, like George W Bush or Obama were, but his handlers are further up the food chain.

            The charade is the same kinds of political theater the nasty entities behind the scenese have always used to distract and entertain the masses.

            Bread & Circus…

            Oct 21, 2019 21:23 AM

            Ex,
            You’re a smart man. You know how the world works.
            Trump is not a puppet like the past several presidents were.

            Question:
            If you understand the three sides of the pyramid that controlled the world for many centuries, you would understand that it’s being systematically dismantled. Its like a global Magna Carta on steroids.

            Trump Is Doing That (with help from many, of course)

            Oct 21, 2019 21:57 PM

            I truly hope you are correct about that Chartster, and would love it if Trump and Q and the crew were dismantling the old system. However, because I know the way things work, I’m less optimistic that this all isn’t just playing into the hands of the deep state.

            Until the FED is abolished, the income tax and IRS are abolished, the Green New Deal and smart meters and Agenda 21 is thrown out the window, and until the trend towards globalism with all the cliques and clubs (Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, Council of the Americas, Bohemian Grove, The Bilderberg Group, and the UN) are rooted out, then the Deep State is alive and thriving.

            I’m hopeful for the best, but prepared for the worst.

        Oct 19, 2019 19:26 AM

        I believe that this was probably taken from an segment with Bob that Jay had on this pod cast.

          Oct 19, 2019 19:30 AM

          That interview was one that Ceo Technician (aka Goldfinger over at ceo.ca) had with Bob M. They are pals and regularly do interviews together and then they get transcribed and posted over at Energy & Gold.

          I enjoy getting both of their unique perspectives and felt others may like to read the interview, as it is quite provocative.

      Oct 19, 2019 19:02 AM

      This is just part of the ongoing ciashadow govt, pay for play, crap, that has been going on for 70 yrs……..

          Oct 19, 2019 19:31 AM

          Got to be a moron……if you believe in space aliens……….lol

            Oct 19, 2019 19:33 AM

            Better have them go listen to Coast to Coast…….lol

            Oct 19, 2019 19:42 AM

            I know…. It would be like believing in a ciashadow government or that there is a deep state…. all a big conspiracy theory right? 🙂

            Oct 19, 2019 19:45 AM

            Coast to Coast is a great place to learn about 911 Truthers, Aliens, and the truth about Benghazi or Obummers Birth Certificate. Maybe they can tie it all back to the JFK assignation and Hilldabeast’s email scandal.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:48 AM

            Thank goodness for our sakes most folks here are sane, and believe in people that spawned the whole race in a garden with some space angels that came down, and people got swallowed by whales for 3 days, and all the Earth’s races came from one dudes family after a huge flood, but don’t worry the later superhero walks on water and does magic tricks. Thank god for sanity like that. 😉

            Oct 19, 2019 19:48 AM

            Who is the joke….on……. lol 🙂

            Oct 19, 2019 19:54 AM

            The joke is on any of the fools that allow their thoughts, opinions, and beliefs to be a conditioned response programmed in by their parents, teachers, preachers, and media outlets.

            Anyone can be free that breaks free of the shackles of social conditioning and decides to start thinking for themselves.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:59 AM

            Been thinking for myself, since birth……….lol

            Oct 19, 2019 19:11 AM

            Sadly most haven’t…. they are the pawns in the joke. You asked who the joke was on, and it is the unthinking sheeple, putting garbage news in their minds from both sides of the aisle or from the pulpit day in and day out.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:19 AM

            Yep – it was originally a plural term. That is why is says “Let US create them in OUR image.” – Fallen Angels, Aliens, Elohim… whateva

            Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים [ʔɛloːˈhim]) is a word in the Hebrew Bible, which sometimes means deities in the plural,[1][2] and elsewhere refers to a single deity, particularly (but not always) the Jewish God.[1][2]

            The word is identical to the usual plural of el, meaning gods or magistrates, and is cognate to the ‘l-h-m found in Ugaritic, where it is used for the pantheon of Canaanite gods, the children of El, and conventionally vocalized as “Elohim”. Most uses of the term Elohim in the later Hebrew text imply a view that is at least monolatrist at the time of writing, and such usage (in the singular), as a proper title for the supreme deity, is generally not considered to be synonymous with the term elohim, “gods” (plural, simple noun).

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim

            Oct 19, 2019 19:20 AM

            oops that went in the wrong thread.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:37 AM

            On October 19, 2019 at 8:30 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:
            SHAD……….Not going down the road of religion with you……we said long ago….this was not a religious site….

            Oct 19, 2019 19:39 AM

            Got to go now and read my KJV………

            Oct 19, 2019 19:52 AM

            Jerry – That is fine, I’m not interested in discussing religion on here, and completely agree. (Although, I find it hilarious that you say you don’t want to discuss religion, and then immediately post a separate post about going and reading your KJV right after that) – pretty funny.

            We were discussing poltical control over humans, and religions are just one rung on that ladder of mental control and conditioning of the sheeple, just like the public education system, political parties, or special interest groups.

            People that believe they have the truth based on what CNN or MSNBC or FOX or ZeroHedge because it feed their echo chamber are so silly, right?…. but people that get believes from cult of people following any of the anonymous authored books that have changed in translations for centuries in all the world reiligions have got it all figured out, and all the other groups are wrong. Right?

            Sorry the hypocricy that there is much difference at all in the aim to control minds from the State, or from the thought centers of the Church/Synagogue/Ashram/TeePee are just as much a social conditioning tool of the masses.

            We were discussing the “Elites” and you asked who was at the top (your question).
            They track their blueblood ancenstry and are obsessed with bloodlines for a reason. Follow the yellow brick road.

            The point was about freedom of thinking, free of conditioned programmed beliefs.

            That is true freedom.

            Cheers!

        Oct 19, 2019 19:24 AM

        I called it a false flag attack ……..last week…….

          Oct 19, 2019 19:27 AM

          Bob and I agree…….get um the hell out of Syria ………

            Oct 19, 2019 19:29 AM

            Frank and Uranium One…………….is getting covered up………… LOL

            Oct 19, 2019 19:41 AM

            Agreed on both points – false flag & getting the hell out of Syria…

            It is a Tragic Comedy that for years so many libtards wailed about bringing home the troops, and bought Obummers lip service about bringing home the troops, but Mr. Nobel Peace Prize only instigated more pointless wars and skirmishes all over the planet. It is time for Team America to quit being the world police and take care of their own borders and get their hands off the rest of the planets destiny.

            https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5KJ50RIAAA8FCc.jpg

            Ironically, Trump, which they love to hate, actually delivered on his campaign promise brought troops home and got them out of Syria and now the same people that wanted that have flip-flopped into deciding we need to stay there and stay perpetually at war.

            We were supposed to be in Syria for a month (but only a fool would have believed that when that BS was announced…. it is always longer – look at Afghanistan, Cambodia, Vietnam)… but instead the US has been in Syria a decade. It needs to end an it’s their F’d up problem to sort out. Here’s a clue, it will never be sorted out.

            The Kurds in Syria are nothing like the Kurds in Iraq that love the US and democracy. The Kurds in Syria are Marxist commies and they are essentially terrorists. US actions there have also been like terrorists, like so many areas occupied by American or UN military action, trying to force their will on the world. Is it any wonder most countries want the US to get the F out?

            Libertarians have uniformly asked to bring the US troops home over and over again, and Ron Paul expressed his desire to do the exact same thing that Trump just did, and I believe he would have been treated the same way by both sides of the swamp if he ever had a chance of being elected. Both the delusional demonrats and Neocon Replicons want the Military Industrial Complex to wage on so bringing home the troops is not they way they want things to go, and the 2-headed snake is not happy with any cessation of the war machine.

            The media outbursts and ridiculous comments from both sides of the aisle about staying Syria to support our “friends” the Marxist terrorist commie Kurds in that country (again, nothing like the Kurds in Iraq at all), is all poppycock.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:43 AM

            Have to get behind the curtain………….to see what the hell is going on……..since 9/11 and before…….ALL THE INFO IS OUT THERE……..if , anyone looks for it.
            But, MSN……is not going to Tell anyone anything…….TOTAL CONTROL….

            Oct 19, 2019 19:50 AM

            Behind the curtain is a little old man spinning yarns…. there is no Wizard of Oz.

            https://tenor.com/view/man-behind-curtain-wizrd-of-gif-9488490

            Oct 19, 2019 19:51 AM

            Every news source right and left, believe they are truth wizards, but all they have are hand-me-down opinions. There is rarely a unique or original thought.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:53 AM

            As for the total control… that is only for the brain-dead sheeple that allow their thoughts, opinions, and beliefs to be a conditioned response programmed in by their parents, teachers, preachers, and media outlets.

            Anyone can be free that breaks free of the shackles of social conditioning and decides to start thinking for themselves.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:07 AM

            Like I said……..Been thinking for myself since birth……lol 🙂

            Oct 19, 2019 19:12 AM

            Sadly most haven’t…. they are the pawns in the joke. You asked who the joke was on, and it is the unthinking sheeple, putting garbage news in their minds from both sides of the aisle or from the pulpit day in and day out.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:35 AM

            And you do not think……that there might not be some politics in the mining sector…
            and a few con guys in the sector…..

            Oct 19, 2019 19:55 AM

            Of course their are politics in the minings sector, like there are in any sector that has power and makes money from people like tech, educations, religious organizations, PTA meetings, or healthcare lobbyist groups.

            What is your point? We weren’t even discussing mining companies, but yes, I agree — All groups of humans have politcal clubs, groups, and power hungry individuals that corrupt them.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:15 AM

            their = there

            Oct 19, 2019 19:50 PM

            As for the US and Uranium company news….. this is a pretty big deal that few are talking about because that sector has been so dead.

            __________________________________________________________

            U.S. Energy Secretary Says Cabinet-Level Group Will Boost Domestic Uranium Mining

            Reuters – Timothy Gardner – October 16, 2019

            “U.S. Energy Secretary Rick Perry said on Wednesday he believes a cabinet-level working group set up by President Donald Trump will make recommendations that will revive domestic mining of uranium for nuclear power plants.”

            “Separately, Perry declined to say, through a spokeswoman, if he would cooperate with three U.S. House committees that asked him to turn over documents by Friday in their impeachment probe of Trump.”

            When asked whether the Nuclear Fuel Working Group, which Trump set up in July, would produce recommendations that adequately boost the industry, Perry told reporters. “I do.”

            https://business.financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/u-s-energy-secretary-says-cabinet-level-group-will-boost-domestic-uranium-mining

            Oct 19, 2019 19:59 PM

            They have to boost uranium mining, because they stole all the fuel rods….via Mueller/Hilly scam Uranium One…….
            That is part of the lawsuit….coverup…….like duh……CYA….more like it….
            Rick Perry is part of the problem….that is why he is leaving….

            Oct 19, 2019 19:42 PM

            Rick Perry has been very supportive of reviewing the domestic Nuclear industry and did help sway President Trump to review the Uranium mining industry as well to assist. He’s leaving because of the Ukraine debacle but it didn’t have much to do with the Uranium One scandal.

            I’ve mentioned it a few times here that most of the US Uranium assets that were part of the Uranium scandal back when it broke have been transfered from Uranium One to a new company Anfield Energy, back in 2015-2016 when the heat was on for Hillary and when that whole saga resurfaced.

            I was a shareholder in Uranium One when it got sold to ARMZ and was vocally against the transaction for all the reasons noted, even though that action provided the liquidity for me to sell my shares. I had always been pissed that they got moved private, because it takes the assets off the publicly traded chess board.

            Well now those same assets are available for any Canadian or US or Global investor to have a piece of with Anfield Energy, yet few have connected the dots that Uranium One off-loaded them to their new toadie.

            _______________________________________

            (AEC) Anfield Energy acquired 24 ISR properties from Uranium One, (where they have a contract to process those at Uranium One’s idled processing center);

            “Anfield has signed a Resin Processing Agreement with Uranium One whereby Anfield would process up to 500,000 pounds per annum of its mined material at Uranium One’s Irigaray processing plant in Wyoming.”

            __________________________________________________________

            In addition, the Company can both buy and borrow uranium from Uranium One in order to fulfill some or all of its sales contracts.they also acquired one of the only 3 conventional Uranium mills and processing centers in the US from Uranium One.

            Anfield Resources Inc. acquired the Shootaring Canyon Mill from Uranium One in 2015.

            Located approximately 48 miles (77 kilometers) south of Hanksville, Utah.
            One of three licensed conventional uranium mills in the United States.
            Conventional acid-leach facility licensed to process up to 750 tons of ore per day.
            Built in 1980; commenced operations in 1982 and operated for approximately 6 months; ceased operations due to depressed price of uranium.”

            https://anfieldenergy.com/shootaring-canyon-mill/

            Oct 19, 2019 19:48 PM

            We will see……..

            Oct 19, 2019 19:54 PM

            This was a really good interview from Crux Investor with the (AEC) Anfield Energy CEO Cory Dias, and he is very candid about how they got their companies assets and the mill from Uranium One. Worth the watch for anyone that was concerned about those US Uranium assets that gold sold with Uranium One to Armz.

            __________________________________________________

            Anfield Energy (TSX-V: AEC) – Deep Dive into this Acquisitive Uranium Explorer’s strategy

            CRUX Investor – Jul 20, 2019 #VIDEO

            “Anfield Energy believes it is near production than any of the currently non-producing uranium companies so ready to take advantage when the market turns. The majority of its Uranium assets are in the USA. Both ISR and conventional hard rock Uranium assets. Initial focus is on Wyoming ISR asset. The nearest term asset which is the Charlie asset. Long term focus in Utah and Colorado and conventional Uranium assets. ”

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsNJgTEZioI&feature=youtu.be

            Oct 19, 2019 19:00 PM

            Who were the NEW OWNERS…….

            Oct 19, 2019 19:19 PM

            Corey Dias is a financial guy that put together the deal to acquire the US assets that Uranium One didn’t really want or see as core. That whole Uranium One deal was to get the assets overseas anyway, and the big stink made about the US assets that left to be controlled by ARMZ was not their real motivation for that transaction. It was the huge amounts of ex-soviet Uranium assets that were desired, but the focus was put on the US scandal. Uranium One also unloaded their Australian assets “The Honeymoon Deposit” to Boss Resources, but nobody cares about that either. The point was that the US and Aussie assets were not the reason why Uranium One got sold to ARMZ.

            Those American based assets, that everyone was so riled up about in 2016 & 2017, have been back in North American control but now nobody gives a rip about that. Folks just want to cry over spilled milk from what Hilldabeast did but that is water that is waaaaay under the bridge at this point and a big nothing burger.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:27 PM

            Did you do your background check on Diaz

            Oct 19, 2019 19:30 PM

            STATE DEPT ……..Let HILLY OFF THE HOOK TODAY ON THE 33,000 emails……..
            so, you might luck out on the Uranium One deal…….

            Oct 19, 2019 19:34 PM

            Frank G……..will be happy………

            Oct 19, 2019 19:40 PM

            As much as we’ve joked about it, I don’t believe Franky G. had any interest in unloading Americas Uranium onto Russia and he sold his stake in Uranium One before that deal went through anyway. It was his partner at Gold corp that was more involved, and again, the interest was in the Ex-Soviet Uranium deposits and the American assets were just along for the ride.

            As for the background on Corey Dias here you go:

            https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/person/6004726

            Oct 19, 2019 19:44 PM

            Currently, Corey Dias holds the position of Chief Executive Officer & Director at Anfield Energy, Inc.

            Mr. Dias previously was Research Analyst at M Partners, Inc., Research Analyst at Pollitt & Co., Inc., Vice President for Fortress Investment Group LLC, Research Analyst at Versant Partners, Inc. and Associate Analyst at CIBC World Markets, Inc.

            Mr. Dias received an MBA from Richard Ivey School of Business.

            https://www.marketscreener.com/business-leaders/Corey-Dias-05S292-E/biography/

            Oct 19, 2019 19:54 PM

            Think what you want………BUT FRANK G……was connected…according to sources…

            Oct 19, 2019 19:55 PM

            Keep in mind……….HAITI………..

            Oct 19, 2019 19:06 PM

            I agree that Frank G is friends with the Clintons and likely helped them initiate the deal before he bailed, the point is that despite the big stink about “20% of the US based Uranium assets going to Russia” narrative that people like Sean Hannity banged on about in 2016 & 2017, or that Glenn Beck cautioned about in 2011 & 2012, that was never what the Uranium One sale to ARMZ was even about, for anyone with a clue.

            Again, I was a sharehold of Uranium One at that time and remember it well. It was all about getting the assets in Kazakhstan and to a much lesser extent the assets in Tanzania.

            Anyone that has done more than 5 minutes of research on the Uranium sector in the last decade would immediately recognize Kazakhstan is the leader in low cost insitu Uranium production as the number 1 producer on planet Earth.

            It was never about the US assets, and most of the bobble-head pundits trying to turn the deal into a smear campaign on Hillary about some vast conspiracy to get rid of US Uranium assets, don’t know their back sides from a hole in the ground, and don’t understand jack squat about the Uranium sector. It’s a big nothing burger, and if people really cared they’d have stopped that deal from ever happening years ago.

            If people are sooooo concerned about the US Uranium assets, then they should be thrilled that Anfield Energy now holds them and pipe down already.

    Oct 19, 2019 19:21 AM

    Alberta, here’s how to stop being a national doormat

    Danielle Smith – October 18, 2019

    “Election day is shaping up to be the most disunifying event in Canada in recent history, but it doesn’t have to be. It could also be the moment where Alberta finally decides to stop acting like a national doormat and take charge of its future.”

    “If Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer does not win a majority government, he will never get a chance to govern as a minority because none of the fringe parties will let him. The NDP, the Greens and the Bloc have all made it clear that the price of their co-operation is sacrificing Alberta and cancelling the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion, no matter how punishing it will be to the entire country or how damaging it will be to national unity.”

    “If Premier Jason Kenney wants to stem the tide of Alberta separation, he’s going to have to act quickly…”

    https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/smith-alberta-heres-how-to-stop-being-a-national-doormat

      Oct 19, 2019 19:19 AM

      When I lived in Alberta in the early seventies I sensed how strong the separation movement was back then, and it hasn’t diminished at all. I always felt that Alberta was a much greater threat to leave Canada than Quebec, and now Quebec is too multi-cultural, and Canada is still ignoring the problems of the west.

      Oct 19, 2019 19:48 AM

      Besides Alberta – there are a numer of separatist movements from Brexit to Barcelona.

      In Spain the Catalonians are really divided on leaving or staying and things are getting nasty:

      _____________________________________________________________________

      Protests Rock Spain’s Catalonia Region But Residents Are Divided Over Independence

      October 19, 2019 – NPR

      “On Monday, Spain’s Supreme Court convicted 12 politicians and prominent activists for their part in a 2017 push to declare Catalonia an independent republic. Nine of the leaders, including the former vice president of the Catalan government, were sentenced to between nine and 13 years in prison for sedition. Four of them also were charged with misuse of public funds.”

      “Yet while many Catalans are outraged at the central government in Madrid for the harsh crackdown on the independence movement, the huge demonstrations have obscured deep divisions in Catalan society.”

      “In an official survey in July, more than 48% of respondents said they did not want Catalonia to become an independent state, compared with 44% in favor.”

      https://www.npr.org/2019/10/19/771410814/protests-rock-spains-catalonia-region-but-residents-are-divided-over-independenc

        Oct 19, 2019 19:51 AM

        Marches and Strikes rattle Catalonia Amid Separatist Anger

        By Aritz Parra, Emilio Morenatti – Oct. 18, 2019 – LA Times

        “Masses of flag-waving demonstrators demanding Catalonia’s independence and the release from prison of separatist leaders jammed downtown Barcelona on Friday as the northeastern Spanish region endured its fifth straight night of unrest.”

        “Chaotic scenes of violence erupted after more than half a million protesters, including families with children, marched in the Catalan capital, according to police. Many were clad in pro-independence estelada flags and shouted “Independence!” and “Freedom for political prisoners!”

        https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-10-18/marches-and-strikes-rattle-catalonia-amid-separatist-anger

      Oct 19, 2019 19:08 AM

      The ‘Calexit’ plan to split California from the US gets a second chance, while others are looking to break up the state

      APR 24 2018 – Jeff Daniels

      – A proposed California secession measure has been cleared to begin gathering needed signatures to qualify for the ballot.

      – A similar effort by the so-called Calexit organizers failed last year.

      – At the same time, there’s an initiative backed by billionaire Tim Draper to split California into three states that could make the Nov. 6 ballot.

      – Yet another proposal known as “New California” seeks to carve out rural counties into the 51st state and is critical of the state’s sanctuary policies.

      https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/24/calexit-plan-to-divorce-california-from-us-is-getting-a-second-chance.html

        Oct 19, 2019 19:09 AM

        Calexit 2019: Can California Really Secede From United States And Become It’s Own Country After Trump’s Win?

        By Juliana Rose Pignataro – 11/10/16

        https://www.ibtimes.com/calexit-2019-can-california-really-secede-united-states-become-its-own-country-after-2444845

          Oct 19, 2019 19:10 AM

          5 Things That Will Happen When California Secedes from the U.S.
          Golden State or failed state?

          By Jared Whitley • August 14, 2017

          https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/5-things-that-will-happen-when-california-secedes-from-the-u-s/

            Oct 19, 2019 19:34 PM

            Google State of Jefferson. Parts of Northern California and Southern Oregon trying to form a new state. The Demonrats will never tolerate it. They’re all for democracy just as long as everyone agrees with them and will stay on their toboggan ride to tyranny. And I know there have been other efforts going back at least 50 years to split Fecefornia and they all went nowhere.

            You can bet if the libtards that want Commiefornia to secede have their way they will never let anyone secede from Commiefornia.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:41 PM

            Haha! Agreed Ebolan.

            I just posted the threats of Commiefornia to secede as another example, like Alberta wanting to separate from Canada, and Brexit where the UK wants to separate from the EU, or where Scotland and 1/2 of Ireland want to separate from the UK, and on… and on….

            People…. they just can’t get along. 😉

            Oct 19, 2019 19:51 PM

            i tell ya, just when you think it can’t get worse the crazies in Commiefornia come up with a new insane mandate or tax. And then you got the feces and needles in the streets…just lovely.

            The bear on the state flag has been replaced. And you know with what…

            https://ibb.co/TBCK0rx

            Oct 19, 2019 19:01 PM

            Good one Ebolan. A very appropriate new flag for them.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:51 PM

            Ex, what are you paying for petrol…took a ride today and saw it for $4.20 a gallon and that was for the cheap stuff at a cheap station!

            The idiot voters had a chance to repeal one of the fuel tax increases in 2018 but they voted it down partly because the way the corrupt AG (a DemoNRat,surprise, surprise) worded it and because of heavy campaign spending by corrupt special interests. Plus the people out here are just ignoramuses (and anuses, of course).

            Oct 19, 2019 19:29 PM

            I use premium 93 gas and it is around $2.90 per gallon. Regular 87 is around $2.25.

            $4.20 a gallon sounds more appropriate for states where Cannabis is legal, as that seems a bit high… (lol)

            Oct 19, 2019 19:02 PM

            Dang, you’d be paying $5 a gallon for that in Commiefornia.

            And can you image what the price will be when oil gets up to 80, 90 or 100 a barrel?

            The Fececrats are determined to make private transportation prohibitively expensive for most.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:29 PM

            I surprised Commiefornia even allows Gas and Oil in their state at all, and am amased they didn’t already enact and Green New Deal of their own to force everyone to use electric vehicles from the self-proclaimed higher state of awareness. 🙂

            Maybe they can find a way to run their cars on human “biofuel” to deal with the issue on their streets (lol).

            Oct 19, 2019 19:33 PM

            Well, I read many years ago about a plant that was trying to converted sewage to power…if the Commiecrats catch wind of that they will probably mandate feces powered cars…heck, there’s plenty of fuel in the streets….and the Commiecrats will mandate the replacement of bucket seats in cars with toilets!

            Oct 19, 2019 19:34 PM

            I actually lived in a few places in Cali in the late 70’s and early 80’s and it wasn’t as far gone then as it is now, but it’s unlikely I’d go back to living there again at this point. Hell, they don’t even have enough water and the state burns down every other year.

            It’s really a shame because it is a very beautiful state from a nature and outdoors perspective…. but socialism and liberalism destroys everything in it’s path.

            Oct 19, 2019 19:36 PM

            Ebolan – you are onto something there.

            Here is the latest model of human biofuel powered cars they are testing in Commiefornia:

            “keep our cars biofuel off the sidewalks” is their new mantra.

            https://oddstuffmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Car-seat-turned-into-a-toilet-seat-474×355.jpg

            Oct 19, 2019 19:54 PM

            Hah! That’s it! The Pelosimobile.

            Oct 20, 2019 20:57 PM

            Here’s the Pelosimobile that still runs on terrible gas/oil that shows she is just an average citizen fighting for the little guy. It’s all about that Pelosi Life Style….

            https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4TAc5fR9i0I/maxresdefault.jpg

            Oct 20, 2019 20:00 PM

            Maybe she can get that car converted to run on the human bio-fuel filling the streets and sidewalks of San Francisco.

            This map shows where the best routes in San Fran are to find said auto feces fuel:

            https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/1880820/size/tmg-article_default_mobile.jpg

            Oct 20, 2019 20:10 PM

            And does Blowsi still charter the military jets to fly her in luxury to and from San Francrapper and the District of Criminals?

            Oct 20, 2019 20:45 PM

            I think they really minimized those air flights as the money they were spending on booze week in and week out was staggering and the budget just isn’t there anymore.

            Remember when Trump grounded that plane that Pelosi and gang were going to use to go to the Middle East? Apparently is was so stocked up with liquor that the price tag was over 6 figures in party supplies for just that one flight there and back. Image how much damage they do in a full fiscal year?

    Oct 19, 2019 19:34 AM

    U.K. Parliament Votes To Delay Vote On Johnson’s Breakthrough Brexit Plan

    October 19, 2019 – Alexander Tuerk

    “The British parliament delayed a vote on a Brexit deal by three months Saturday, another defeat for Prime Minister Boris Johnson in what had appeared to have been a breakthrough in negotiations between the European Union and the United Kingdom.”

    “As people marched through the streets of London calling for a second referendum, parliament met for a rare Saturday session to vote on Johnson’s new agreement. The session was supposed to be a straight up-and-down vote, but an amendment put forth by former Conservative Oliver Letwin and approved by parliament delayed the vote by three months.”

    https://www.npr.org/2019/10/19/771558600/u-k-parliament-votes-to-delay-vote-on-johnsons-breakthrough-brexit-plan

    Oct 19, 2019 19:49 AM

    News Articles on the Fed’s Secret Trillions in Loans to Wall Street During the Last Crisis Have Been Purged from Bloomberg News

    By Pam Martens and Russ Martens: October 14, 2019

    https://wallstreetonparade.com/2019/10/news-articles-on-the-feds-secret-trillions-in-loans-to-wall-street-during-the-last-crisis-have-been-purged-from-bloomberg-news/

      Oct 19, 2019 19:53 AM

      A government of the criminals, by the criminals, for the criminals and the greatest criminal enterprise the world as ever known!

    Oct 19, 2019 19:52 AM

    US Taxpayers Paid More To Israeli Defense Budget Than Israelis

    http://republicbroadcasting.org/news/us-taxpayers-paid-more-to-israeli-defense-budget-than-israelis/

    Get back to work Goyim Tax Surfs! You got to pay for the Israeliars’ offense budge!

    And pay you will because you are nothing but tax cattle in the eyes of your gooberment masters and their minions!

    AND THERE’S NO DENYING THAT!

    CFS
    Oct 19, 2019 19:23 PM

    DID YOU KNOW that if Canada had taken all the money it had spent on energy renewables (wind and solar) and instead spent it on nuclear power plants, the country would NOW BE EMISSION-FREE for electric power ?
    Why has the Canadian electorate allowed their politicians never to discuss economic development in terms of productivity, growth, etc. ? Just asking…….

    CFS
    Oct 19, 2019 19:57 PM

    Don’t you think it is about time the U.S. forced the UN to pay for itself ?
    Can you make sense of Libya recently being appointed a member of the UN Human Rights Commission, When Libya openly holds SLAVE MARKETS ?
    Have UN Peace-Keepers, when placed on a border, ever Kept Peace ?

    Oct 19, 2019 19:14 PM

    Steven Lundgren @love4thegameAK

    “Unbelievable protest happening in Lebanon.”

    “People around the world are done with government corruption.”

    https://twitter.com/love4thegameAK/status/1185579671007584256?s=19

      Oct 19, 2019 19:15 PM

      As if protesting itself was enough to stop government corruption. It has been around since the formation of governments to rule over the sheeple.

    Oct 19, 2019 19:30 PM

    When I grew up, I like many others thought that Frankenstein played by Boris Karloff in the Hollywood “B” movies was a joke. Guess who’s laughing now, and still our species doesn’t realize that we are being replaced by A.I. advanced machinery. Man has created his own demise, the genie is out of the bottle and nothing will put it back. DT

      Oct 19, 2019 19:37 PM

      DT – It’s best to concede that like it or not, some segments of mankind are interested in merging with the machine into the realm of “Transhumanism.”

      >> check out Section# 1.3 Artificial intelligence and the technological singularity

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism

        Oct 19, 2019 19:49 PM

        Transhumanism is a step towards creating the completion of A.I. Man much like cars in the early fifties were semi automatic before making the transformation, now they can drive themselves. DT

    Oct 20, 2019 20:50 AM

    Donald Trump is irreverent, uncouth, arrogant and aggressive but I have never supported a president like this man. !. I understand why the U.S. is engaged in “never ending wars”. It simply is what empires do. It’s natural and evolutionary for empires to expand and try to rule the world. Romans, Genghis Kahn, Alexander the Great, Portugal, France, Spain, Great Britain all over time attempted through their policies to rule the world. But every evolutionary empire expansion comes to an end through internal debauchery and political mauvering/cronyism/debt/corru[tion and external growth out stripping its’ supply lines. Trump is attempting to reverse a globalism that was gutting the middle class and elevating China to a world power status. He understands that never ending wars is sapping our treasury which allows for the crumbling of our infrastructure and other adverse internal impacts. He understands the impact of illegal immigration on expansion of our internal costs and the continual compromization of lower income American wages. Trump has exposed the scum that has now risen from the deep depths of the swamp that encompasses not only the FBi, CIA, and democrat party party but the now more obvious mainstream media which is not journalism but a vehicle for the establishment, the Washington scum and democratic party. And that is why I support this man 100%.

    Oct 20, 2019 20:59 AM

    Now that I’m on a roll and don’t comment very often on political subjects; if ones believes we’re in a civil war and a turning point in this country, they would be entirely correct. We haven’t yet taken up physical weapons, however, the war is now in the open as to what this country will be in the future. It’s very simple. Will we continue to go down the path of globalism where the country will continue to lose its’ wealth and be ruled by the oligarchy behind the screen or will the country turn back to its’ sovereignty/republic roots to be ruled by its’ constitutional mandate, the people.

      Oct 20, 2019 20:07 AM

      Doc, we agree on Trump, Syria, avoiding the flu vaccine and hernia surgery, and much more. But I threw caution to the wind and bought OR@9.10 and SPPXF@.19 on Thurs.
      If they fall much lower I’ll buy more. Mickey Mantle was born 88 years ago today.
      How did Illinois beat the Badgers, and Penn St. beat Michigan? The Hoosiers won and so did the Astros!!! Life is good for Bonzo…

      CFS
      Oct 20, 2019 20:42 PM

      Like any civil war, it is not clear yet which party will be the eventual winner. (At least not to me.)
      I support most of Trump’s actions.

      But the power of the pen is indeed mighty, and over the last 30 years it has almost totally been captured by the DNC.
      Repeated often enough by the media, any lie becomes believed.

      Living in California, I am simply amazed by continuous anti-Trump propaganda on radio and TV and in newspapers. (Although I sometimes wonder if the local population actually reads much.)
      The local politicians; city, county, state and national are almost without exception corrupt, greedy, non-reasoning scum.

    Oct 20, 2019 20:12 AM

    Good for Trump and Tulsi Gabbard. The never ending wars are only one problem to be dealt with and that beleaguers this country. Withdrawing from Syria should only be the beginning. The Kurds and U.S. as propagandized weren’t the major forces that wiped out ISIS. The Syrian army, Russia, Iranian militia, and Hezbollah were also major forces. Trump had to make a choice or we would have illegally been in Syria for years. Turkey has been an ally for years (1945) and because of our CIA attempted overthrow of Erdogan was progressively moving into the Russian camp. If we stayed and supported the Kurds who terrorist units of the PKK (armed by the U.S.)would continue to attack within Turkey, one would realize the Turks would eventually become an ally of Russia and shut down our military posts in incirlib and Adana. By removing our troops it was only natural the Kurds would form a relationship with Syria, It now puts the Russians in the position where they have to deal with the not pleasant task of moderating between 2 rulers that hate each other, Assad and Erdogan. There was no genocide of the Turks as mentioned and it will eventually bring peace to a region of the middle east where our past policies by incompetent U.S. presidents have brought death to our young people and massive destruction to the indigent peoples. Now, Mr. Trump; let’s start to withdraw from Afghanistan and bring a peace project to Yemen.

    Oct 20, 2019 20:41 AM

    Good summary Doc, everything you have mentioned and referred to and more can be read about in “The Rise And Fall Of The Roman Empire”, by Edward Gibbons. Britain had it’s heyday in The Victorian Era, and it’s downfall came swiftly after they started military expansion in The Boer War, which was Britain’s Vietnam, and a previous invasion of Afghanistan. By the end of The First World War, Britain was on life support, they lost sixty thousand men and their equipment in one day during the battle of The Somme in northern France. China is now the newest bogeyman for the west, Russia has now been knocked off that perch which they held since The Russian Revolution. The blame game as we know it to be must find barbarians to turn the plebs eyes and ears. I knew that China would need American agricultural products or they would be in trouble, another hallmark of decline is when you can’t feed your citizens or they can’t afford proper food. The list goes on and on, but there is nothing knew about what is happening to America

      Oct 20, 2019 20:05 AM

      knew should be new

    BDC
    Oct 20, 2019 20:12 AM

    In the mid 1800s the Rothschilds and their cohorts owned or controlled well over half of the world’s wealth.

    When the U.S. ‘Federal’ Reserve System was schemed into existence, evil incarnate gained direct access to the most advanced society’s financial soul. Near infinite lines of credit became a deadly weapon. Via debt and its spawn, monsters now attempt to own or control all future wealth.

    They will not succeed. Nature will not be denied. However, really being determined now is whether mankind in toto is worthy of the Stars, or the Abyss.

    Oct 20, 2019 20:33 AM

    BDC, this is a great article by Casey Research on how the banks will control our money by using negative interest rates as a pretext. If you haven’t read it, I’m sure it has been posted here before, it is a must read in my opinion. DT
    https://www.caseyresearch.com/daily-dispatch/i-owe-my-soul-why-negative-interest-rates-are-only-the-first-step/

    Oct 20, 2019 20:11 PM

    JERRY!

    Shipp hitting the fan.

    Trump was a fool for ever going anywhere near BoltOn.

    https://usawatchdog.com/after-trump-war-only-one-party-will-be-standing-kevin-shipp/

      Oct 20, 2019 20:27 PM

      Saw that……..but, we could have to ya,……Bolton was ciashadow govt….and I think a space alien………

        Oct 20, 2019 20:28 PM

        told ….not to ….but here is to ya…..lol

          Oct 20, 2019 20:38 PM

          Hi Jerry…Off topic . I watched an interesting video on utube about a coin dealer.
          He’s called Mr Guy , & he has a coin shop in Spring Hill Florida , have you ever been there , he is a mine of information.

            Oct 20, 2019 20:44 PM

            Hello Irish……..No, never been there……..

            Oct 20, 2019 20:47 PM

            I will see , if , I have watched the guy before…..is that the old guy , retired, with a lot of knowledge…he could spot a fake a mile away….

            Oct 20, 2019 20:49 PM

            Hi Jerry,

            I emailed Mr. Big Al Korelin a few times over the past few weeks to see if he can interview Webb. Never got a response. Didn’t surprise me though, as he has not showed interest in Webb and he also has stopped responding to my emails quite awhile ago.

            Sorry, I did try though.

            Oct 20, 2019 20:50 PM

            IRISH…….this is the guy I saw……HE IS GOOD>>>>
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77LkEDGL4d8

            Oct 20, 2019 20:52 PM

            Irish, I have never traded with the guy, ….but, I would consider him……..jmo

            Oct 20, 2019 20:55 PM

            Ebo,……..that is ok,…..thanks for the effort…..

        Oct 20, 2019 20:53 PM

        Heard that the Rommulen and some other RepubloCons in the Imperial Senate plan to vote to convict Trump when the impeachment process reaches the Imperial Senate.

        And BoltOn made sure the “whistle blower” got propaganda to bring down Trump. Trump, what a fool for making BoltOn his National Insecurity Officer. But Trump thinks he knows everything.

          Oct 20, 2019 20:57 PM

          Romney is knee deep…….been screwing the public for years….like his daddy…

            Oct 20, 2019 20:59 PM

            Good thing McCain, is missing in action……

    Oct 20, 2019 20:54 PM

    OPUS 182 WhiteHouse R I F Steve Pieczenik

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4h9eQi1-tU

    Oct 20, 2019 20:59 PM

    Hi Jerry….Yeah thats the guy……wish i had a coin dealer like that in my neck of the woods….i would be there a least once a week.

      Oct 20, 2019 20:02 PM

      I saw that tape a couple of weeks ago, and the guy impressed me…….and I am hard to impress,….we have a bunch of jack legs here in Indianapolis…..

    Oct 20, 2019 20:11 PM

    WEBB today….good outline of his site….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzUN-sPgpgc

      Oct 20, 2019 20:14 PM

      Ebo………..check this one out……helps explain his site….

      Oct 20, 2019 20:17 PM

      Wish OWL would watch that!

    Oct 20, 2019 20:38 PM

    Hi : economy makes lots of low pay jobs in health care , and food services . REPUBS will move to remove Trump in senate , as they can run better with Pence , Who will they run in primarys . Maybe Joni Ernst or Mia Love ?? If they run another grumpy old man for President they will lose the Senate . Pray for peace S

    Oct 20, 2019 20:02 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71PD2f1ogyk
    OWL check of the day………

      Oct 20, 2019 20:17 PM

      The poor creature will learn the world is a nasty place.

    Oct 20, 2019 20:32 PM

    Hillary Clinton in 2040 still talking about how the Russians stole the election from her.

    https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1185314140908244993/photo/1

    Oct 20, 2019 20:39 PM

    Here is some real bull crap…………
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/heres-why-97-congress-get-re-elected-each-year
    Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-MI12): Although Dingell wasn’t elected to Congress until 2014, a member of the Dingell family has held MI-12 congressional seat for 86 years.

      Oct 20, 2019 20:42 PM

      DANG>>>>>>>>>>>>FAMILY HELD OFFICE for 86 YEARS……..
      We followed the money and found a culture of conflict-of-interest. The confluence of federal money, campaign cash, private employment, investments, prestigious committee appointments, political power, nepotism, and other conflicts are a fact pattern.

      Furthermore, members of Congress own investment stock in, are employed by, and receive retirement pensions from federal contractors to whom they direct billions of taxpayer dollars.

      Moreover, members sponsor legislation that affects these contractors. The contractor’s lobbyists then advocate for the legislation that helps the member and the contractor. Oftentimes, the contractor’s lobbyist also donates campaign cash to the member.

        Oct 20, 2019 20:44 PM

        ……….TERM LIMITS……….Congress is corrupt as HELL…..

          Oct 20, 2019 20:04 PM

          If you chopped off their Dingels you could end the nepotism!

            Oct 21, 2019 21:40 AM

            ha, ha……..good one.

    Oct 20, 2019 20:04 PM

    Jerry, get the tapes

    CFS
    Oct 20, 2019 20:03 PM
      Oct 21, 2019 21:39 AM

      TIme line…….Aug 31 conversation with the Pres and Johnson………a good one………jmo

        Oct 21, 2019 21:09 AM

        Levin…..called it correct..(pretend whisleblower)..it is called a SPY……(and what does a “spy “deserve.)…

    Oct 21, 2019 21:10 AM

    Uranium One……….still a BIg Deal……….do not let anyone fool you……
    Mega Watts, to Mega Bucks………all tied together……in the political scandal.

    CFS
    Oct 21, 2019 21:41 AM

    Hillary and Obama, traitors both.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPe3V9lEH1o