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Jordan Roy-Byrne – Inflation Has Peaked And Disinflation Will Pressure PMs And Commodities For Now

Jordan Roy-Byrne, Founder and Editor of The Daily Gold, joins us to share macro outlook the markets, inflation, Fed policy, and what effects this may have on gold, silver, and the commodities.  Jordan believes we’ve seen a peak in the inflation data for a while and that we’ll see more disinflation moving forward where the rate of change will be coming down.  He outlined that gold is the leader and has corrected for a year and half, and that other commodities like copper, base metals, and oil already peaked for the year and have also been following gold’s lead lower.   The big catalysts Jordan is looking for is the Fed hiking rates next spring, and how that could pressure general markets and be a bullish tailwind for the precious metals.

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    Dec 08, 2021 08:41 PM

    When The Smart Money Says ‘Sold To You’
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    Jesse Felder – The Felder Report – December 8, 2021
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    “Over the summer I highlighted the rapid increase in leverage being put to use on the part of speculators in the equity markets. Since that time, it has only continued to grow. Margin debt, call option volumes, net futures positioning and leveraged ETF assets (depicted below in the chart) all show these folks putting on the most extreme leverage we have ever witnessed.”

    “What makes this all the more notable is that the smartest of smart money, corporate executives and other insiders, are now selling at the fastest annual pace on record (largely driven by the most valuable companies in the market). Setting aside the economic message of the indicator below, the simple fact that insiders are taking the other side of speculators’ record leverage is significant, especially given their stellar track record.”
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    https://thefelderreport.com/2021/12/08/when-the-smart-money-says-sold-to-you/

      Dec 08, 2021 08:47 PM

      Mayhem Beneath the Surface of the Stock Market – But On The Surface, Stocks Still Look Hunky-dory.
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      by Wolf Richter • Wolf Street – Dec 5, 2021
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      “It’s amazing how individual stocks, at the tippy-top of the biggest stock market bubble in modern times, are getting taken out the back one by one to be crushed, but without denting the overall indices all that much.”

      “The stock market bubble was driven by $4.5 trillion in QE in the US alone, along with many more trillions by other central banks, and it was driven by interest rate repression, even has inflation has been surging to multi-decade highs, not just in the US but globally, and not just in goods, but now also in services, particularly housing, such as rents.”

      “After a decade of QE being relatively benign on the inflation front, giving central bankers a false sense of confidence, it has finally broken the dam, and inflation is now surging everywhere, and it’s spreading across the economy. Central banks are now no longer denying it, and some have raised rates, and others have ended QE.”
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      https://wolfstreet.com/2021/12/05/the-mayhem-beneath-the-surface-of-the-stock-market/

    Dec 08, 2021 08:42 PM

    Copper price rises while Commerzbank sees setback in 2022
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    Mining.com Staff Writer – December 8, 2021
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    https://www.mining.com/copper-price-rises-while-commerzbank-sees-setback-in-2022/

    Dec 08, 2021 08:48 PM

    Taking Gold Candy From A Fiat Baby
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    Stewart Thomson – Dec 7, 2021
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    http://www.321gold.com/editorials/thomson_s/thomson_s_120721.html

    Dec 08, 2021 08:44 PM

    ….. and here’s the Takeover offer we’ve been waiting to see…. Great Bear!
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    Kaboom!!
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    (K) Kinross to Acquire (GBR) Great Bear for C$29.00 per Share, Plus a Contingent Value Right
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    by @newswire on 8 Dec 2021
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    https://ceo.ca/@newswire/kinross-to-acquire-great-bear-for-c2900-per-share

      Dec 08, 2021 08:52 PM

      Kinross Gold in talks to acquire Red Lake gold development company Great Bear Resources
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      Niall McGee – Mining Reporter – 1 hour ago
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      https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-kinross-gold-in-talks-to-acquire-red-lake-gold-development-company/

        Dec 08, 2021 08:54 PM

        I’m pretty curious as to whether this one may see a bidding war begin. Calling Barrick? Calling Rio? 🙂

          Dec 08, 2021 08:15 PM

          What about Evolution (EVN.AX). Thought they pretty much claimed Red Lake area as theirs. Bidding war for sure..Koalas vs. Canucks.

            Dec 08, 2021 08:24 PM

            That’s a good point Terry. We could see the Aussies like Evolution Mining nearby, make a run at Dolly Varden as well to sew up the Red Lake area. There is also the large stake that Anglogold Ashanti has in the nearby Pure Gold mine and land position as well. However, I think the most likely candidate could be Barrick, since they just took out strategic stakes in properties on both sides of Great Bear. This may be what forced Kinross to the table now to get in front of that potential future bid from Barrick.
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            Regardless of who it may be, I’d be surprised to see a crown jewel asset like Great Bear get scooped up by Kinross without another suitor. However, it Kinross picks it up then great as it is the only Major I have a position in and I’d love to see Dixie under their umbrella for the longer game.

          Dec 08, 2021 08:37 PM

          My computer has been crashing all day long. Picked up on the after hours release on Great Bear. I was hoping for a higher price but there might be more to this and the company may have entered into an agreement to draw bids and prevent a hostile take-over. I don’t know the mechanics but there have been Barrick rumblings for months. I have cut my shares over time but still have enough to be interested. I am sure we will see some crazy stuff tomorrow.

            Dec 08, 2021 08:05 PM

            C29.00$…$22.50 or so US. Great Bear almost $18 now and hasn’t identified a resource.

            Dec 08, 2021 08:53 PM

            This is going to be a key takeover in the gold mining space as one of the largest gold exploration projects (in theory) that as you stated, hasn’t even released their maiden resource estimate yet or any economic studies. We haven’t seen a big takeover an explorer that was still this early stage (despite their ~500 drill holes) since Kaminak. Most of the M&A we’ve seen has been with producers or advanced developers.
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            History is definitely being made here, and there will be so many times in the future that you know we are all going to here companies or newsletter writers claim that “Company XYZ is going to be the next Great Bear….”
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            We’ve actually had a really nice run of mergers and acquisitions lately from the Kirkland Lake/Agnico Eagle merger, the Calibre takeover of Fiore, the Golden Star Resources takeover by Chifeng Jilong Gold Mining, the Newcrest takeover of Pretium, and just two days ago the announcement that Dolly Varden was acquiring the Homestake project from Fury Gold (see the other interview just posted about that).
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            Personally, I’m going to be hanging on to my Great Bear shares for longer than I would in a typical takeover deal for 2 main reasons:

            1) I just recently took out a stake in Kinross, because I believe it looks really beat down technically and compared to peers and simply for the number of mines, annual production, and ounces in the ground. They took a big hit since their production came down due to the fire at their mine, and the mitigation, loss of ounces, and such, but they are now ramping back up production. So if my Great Bear shares convert over to Kinross shares, then it just fortifies that position.

            2) I still get this feeling we’re going to see a counter offer for a higher valuation takeover. Maybe from Barrick, maybe Evolution (or another of the Aussie producers), maybe Anglogold Ashanti, maybe one of the larger conglomerates like Rio or BHP etc… Regardless, it will be incredibly surprising if this bid by Kinross goes unchallenged.

            Dec 08, 2021 08:11 PM

            There are some great comments rolling in over at the GBR room over at ceo.ca. Here are just a few:
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            GBR Great Bear – “I have a feeling that a lot (if not all) the posters on this board are going to have a hard time sleeping tonight. Haha.”
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            @Tdot – “Don’t f’ing sell tomorrow. Bidding war to commence.”
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            @WallyWall – “There is way too much cash out there for GBR to go for “just” $1.8 billion Pre MRE in my opinion. Imagine how stupid these majors are going to feel like once GBR drops it’s MRE on the market in January and they let Kinross steal it. CT is just getting the buzz started early prior to Christmas IMHO.”
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            @WallyWall – “CT is smart! By accepting a cheap bid it opens this right up to a bidding war. Just like in the housing market recently you under price your house in order to attract multiple offers. A pre MRE GBR is not going to go for $1.8 billion when it is expected to have in excess of 10 million ounces – this is way too soon and Kinross is just starting the process. I am very confident on this. GBR could easily get in to the $30s tomorrow.”
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            @Gfinger – “I think this scenario is a gift to Barrick and Bristow. Exactly what they wanted. A low ball offer for GBR. now he can bid 40C and be a hero. get GBR for cheap and have his shareholders on board and never paying near what CT has always said GBR is worth. I guarantee you if Bristol wants GBR he will get it at a price less than what he expected to pay.”
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            @cincocinco – “I think the last chapter has not yet been written. in some way this is a giant open invitation for barrick to come in and stomp on kinross. the break up fee, while expensive, is really only $1.50 per share. i think bristow drops a big meaty F-U offer on the table that either gets accepted by the board, or kinross trys to match and cant….and they walk away with $85M for their efforts. bristow gets the prize of gbr. if Kinross does match it, we as shareholders are happy and bristow again looks like a tough guy, smart guy saying hes not going to overbid for GBR and lets Kinross win the day with a full price choke on it buyout price. Either way, GBR shareholders win. I dont think bristow is going to do nothing. i think he comes in strong pretty soon….”
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            @H.I.Mcdunnough – “It’s the smart move for CT to take a good offer, if no other offers come, well you got a decent offer. That’s now the worst case outcome. By unanimously accepting it, you signal to other bidders that if they want it, they better bring out the big guns. Best case upside is still as big as it was yesterday.”
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            @Smallfish – “This is the best strategy IMO, not taking such a serious bid just makes the BOD look like punters. If there are other bidders this will flush them out, no one will give a hoot about an 85 million breakup fee. Hey no one is losing money here, its just a matter of how much more we might make with another bid…time will tell. I expect at least two other bids, Dixie is just too special.”
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            @HRA-Coffin – “I think Kinross will have to come up with something pretty impressive to keep a larger company from topping them on $GBR”
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            @DJS – “Assuming Kinross knew that ABX and perhaps others were looking very seriously at GBR, to me they are playing the role of Teck to Diamond Fields here (I know it’s not the same, but there are analogues). ”

            “No chance Kinross can outbid the big guys, so the best play for them is to gradually buy a bunch of GBR well below $20, sign the first deal with a sweet break fee, and then cash a couple of very nice cheques when one of the big boys buys it. And if for some inexplicable reason nobody else steps up, they still have an outside chance of stealing it at their first offer if enough retail decide to vote yes. Kinross cannot lose here — well played by them.”

            Dec 09, 2021 09:44 AM

            GBR:
            At this point, I am a hold and see and leaning toward KGC shares. My previous plan was to roll it into GBR Royalties, but Schwab still hasn’t got the basis right on the Spin-out shares correct and I feel this exchange is always at risk of being somehow a long term issue.
            Many things can happen and Chris Taylor always said he didn’t want to sell before the resource known. The KGC offer is not that good to think it is final. But if it is, I think the share offer ends up a better tax deal and future appreciation possibility as Great Bear is recognized as one of the best in recent years to come along.

            Dec 09, 2021 09:52 AM

            Unfortunately I personally missed out big time on great bear…never knew about it in the early days and then stubbornly never bought when I felt it got ahead of itself and then just left it on the watch list but never pulled the trigger as there was always something shinier catching my eye. Congrats to all who were wiser than I.

            The obvious next question is where will Chris focus his attention too once the take out is over…..kodiak seems to be Claudia’s baby but some great bear money will find its way there….what the name of the next Chris Taylor company to advertise here on kereport is what’s really on everyone’s mind I’m sure

            Dec 09, 2021 09:11 AM

            I would like to see the GBR price run up beyond the Kinross deal and then see what happens.

            Dec 09, 2021 09:06 AM

            Good thoughts Lakedweller2 and agreed on watching for the counter offers to show up, but so far a wise initial strategy from Kinross, because if nothing else they’ll get the $85 million break fee, or best case scenario they get Great Bear.
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            It was also a wise move from Chris Taylor and board of directors to accept it, as now the other big boys like Barrick or Evolution or Anglogold will need to pay up and this will expedite the process of flushing out any serious offers. Gotta love it.

            Dec 09, 2021 09:15 AM

            Wolfster – Yeah, I agree that many folks, (myself included) will be curious to see what the next Chris Taylor project will be in the gold space. It will be very hard to top Great Bear though just due to the quality of the project. Assets like that are a rarity.
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            Yes C.T. is still backing Klodike Copper, and I’ve had a seat at that table and may do what you mentioned and migrate a few of the funds from Great Bear over to Klodike once we get the final offer. However, after such a big win, I have a feeling Chris and his team are going to be presented with a number of opportunities in the gold space, and we’ll follow along with whatever comes next.

            Dec 09, 2021 09:48 AM

            An additional thought , GBR up over $22 US this AM, and I have rotated all my long term profits out of GBR and bought back in over April and May of last year. So, if I took profits today my increased tax rate for short term gains, would offset about half or more of the gain. So, no matter how it goes, I should take the shares or wait for another deal as this one doesn’t do that much more than any other day in the neighborhood.

            Dec 09, 2021 09:03 AM

            Upon further reflection this morning, I blew out my Kinross shares for a tax loss sale, as it sold off today on the news of buying Great Bear. My thoughts are it is best to whittle down the 2021 capital gains a bit more, and if the deal goes through I’ll end up with Kinross shares anyway. I rotated those funds between Coeur, Jaguar, Endeavour Silver, and put in a new starter position for Metalla Royalty (feels good to be back).

    Dec 08, 2021 08:10 PM

    Looks like things are about to heat up………. while everyone is asleep….. JMO

    Dec 08, 2021 08:58 PM

    (IAU) (IAUCF) i-80 Gold Reports Final Results from Phase 1 Drilling Targeting Open Pit Mineralization at the Granite Creek Mine Project in Nevada – New results include 36.74 g/t Au over 9.1 Metres
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    Dec. 8, 2021
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    https://tinyurl.com/2p86pva3

    Dec 08, 2021 08:13 PM

    (ARIS) (ALLXF) Aris Gold Announces Encouraging Results From Its Initial Drill Program at the Juby Gold Project In Ontario

    – 7 Dec 2021
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    https://ceo.ca/@newswire/aris-gold-announces-encouraging-results-from-its-initial

    Dec 08, 2021 08:50 PM

    (GENM) (GENMF) Generation Mining enters into binding agreement to become 100% owner of Marathon Project
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    Dec. 08, 2021
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    https://ceo.ca/@nasdaq/generation-mining-enters-into-binding-agreement-to

    BDC
    Dec 09, 2021 09:53 AM

    Dollar Week : Trading Range Gaps : Upward Bias
    https://saturationtiming.blogspot.com/2021/12/dollar-week_9.html

      BDC
      Dec 09, 2021 09:02 AM

      SPQ(PMs) : https://tinyurl.com/2vc9pznu
      Attention! YOY Inflation 0830 Friday.

        Dec 09, 2021 09:20 AM

        Yep, we already have friendly bets with where we think the CPI reading will come in on Friday. I picked 5.5%, thinking the October 6.2% reading was likely the high water mark for the year.

          BDC
          Dec 09, 2021 09:41 AM

          CDE short term? Tomorrow may be the tell.

    Dec 09, 2021 09:42 AM

    (AU) Aurion Resources: Joint Venture Extends Strike Length of Kutuvuoma-Ikkari (Helmi) Discovery to 1.3 km
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    12/09/2021 #Finland
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    https://tinyurl.com/2p8cpk87

      Dec 09, 2021 09:53 AM

      Aurion CEO Matti Talikka summarized the significance of this morning’s announcement:
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      “The Helmi discovery is already showing the potential to be a significant gold occurrence. The nine holes drilled in the program were the first ever drilled in this area. The holes were broadly spaced, up to 350 m apart, and were drilled without reference to surface exposure or meaningful base-of-till sampling. Given the scant evidence available, we consider the success rate of this program to be exceptional. Recent discoveries in the region, such as Rupert Resource’s nearby 3.95 Moz Ikkari, have yielded a high return on capital invested. We’re excited to have the opportunity to retain 30% interest in the JV.”

    Dec 09, 2021 09:08 AM

    My pm portfolio is up today on a down day for silver, is this a sign of the bottom to this move? Have the MMs pushed it to it’s limits? I am not sure but this is looking good imho.

      Dec 09, 2021 09:15 AM

      Agreed Dan. My portfolio has been in the green all week long Mon, Tue, & Wed, and despite all the uber-bearishness on many chat forums, it has been a really positive week in many of the PM stocks. My portfolio closed up 4.7% yesterday, and while it was a mixed bag I had counted over 40 gold and silver stocks in it yesterday that were up on the day. However the GDX and GDXJ were only up about a half a percent yesterday.
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      Now so far today my portfolio is mildly in the red, down 0.84%, but it’s been a damn good week overall, and Great Bear is a bright spot on the day.
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      When we speak to company officers, generalists, newsletter writers, and technicians on the phone they’ve mostly been negative on the PM sector, but I’ve felt all week was pretty constructive for the space. Most of the stocks I bought last week are up this week, so that’s better than the opposite. 🙂

        Dec 09, 2021 09:13 AM

        I’m also up, thanks to options trades. There are ways to eke out some returns.

    Dec 09, 2021 09:08 AM

    Get on Santa’s ‘Nice’ List!
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    By Sean Brodrick – December 9, 2021
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    https://weissratings.com/en/wealth-wave/get-on-santa-s-nice-list

    Dec 09, 2021 09:33 AM

    gold and producers continue sitting on a ledge with bears yelling jump!!

    Dec 09, 2021 09:41 PM

    I wouldn’t be surprised if tomorrow is the low for silver. It thoroughly tested its 200 day EMA in September but never reached its 200 day simple MA. Today it finally did for the first time in well over a year. It went below it early in the day and was holding just above it in the final minutes only to be adjusted to 2 cents below it after the bell. It sure looked like a chart painting job to me but could have just been a bunch of legit late sell orders. Either way, it is set for more downside tomorrow.
    The low for SLV today happened at a big fork support and just above two more that might be touched tomorrow. If we don’t get a decent reversal tomorrow, the weekly chart will turn friendlier to the bears and keep the door open to much lower levels. It would be great if SLV would dip to just below 20 tomorrow before reversing strongly.
    https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SLV&p=D&yr=0&mn=11&dy=0&id=p19570770926&a=1078126175

      Dec 09, 2021 09:55 PM

      Correction to the second line above: The moving averages mentioned are the 600 day not 200.

    Dec 09, 2021 09:57 PM

    Today’s low for GDXJ happened where it should have; let’s see if it holds…
    https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=GDXJ&p=D&yr=1&mn=3&dy=0&id=p91948620108&a=1071789349