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Big Al
June 10, 2013

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    Jun 10, 2013 10:38 AM

    I didnt know the mechanics of it but insider trading or currption I think is a givin.
    I believe 1 of the comments yesterday mentioned corruption in the 20s?
    Some things dont change I guess.

    Jun 10, 2013 10:44 AM

    Of course some things never change. Just consider human nature.

    Big Al

    Jun 10, 2013 10:27 AM

    Inflation???? Defining inflation is a fools game and lets not fool ourselves because each person can tell you whether they are experiencing inflation or not. John Williams at Shadowstats is found of pointing this out.

    Of course there is inflation worldwide, raging inflation as witnessed by the costs of food, insurance, healthcare, taxes you name it. So why have gold and commodities stayed low in prices during all this inflation? Using Occam’s Razor there is an obvious reason for the disconnect between inflation and low commodity prices in the so called markets, the Fed and other central banks print trillions of new dollars, yen, euro’s you name the fiat to sell contracts in these corrupt markets. They can after all create nearly infinite dollars to cover costs of losses for any money lost during the shorting. They short oil, gold, silver, mining stocks anything and everything that just might hint at inflation, losses don’t matter because they can’t loose dollars sense they and the fractional bank system are the creators of fiat in the first place.

    How long can this distortion and crime continue?? Difficult question and better answered by asking what the consequences are and to what extreme they are willing to take it. The shorting scheme to control Media reporting on inflation really got going in 2007 when very few could see it. Today the scheme has expanded into everything, even printing to buy long stocks and bonds to make inflation seem tame. MOPE as Sinclair points out is the modus operandi of central control failure and the end comes when infighting of the powers that be for dominance without control begins to happen and we are just now beginning to see this. Look for a cascade of failures to sprout worldwide.

      Jun 10, 2013 10:28 PM

      Bingo…Clay…bingo…you are on a “commentary” roll!!

      Jun 10, 2013 10:13 PM

      If that were all true Clay then why bother using money for shorting? If you had unlimited power to print fiat and use it anyway you liked then why not just buy up all the mines, the resources the gold and the strategic assets with cash and then say “to hell” to everyone who complains after you own it all?

        Jun 10, 2013 10:04 PM

        Exactly Bird Man. And it would be nothing for the FED to do this. I’ve been hearing about “the year of the bank failures” since Bob Moriarity claimed that 2010, then 2011 would surpass all the ones from 2008. I’m still waiting for that to occur. Maybe next year?

          Jun 11, 2013 11:02 AM

          Interestingly enough, Mark, the Chinese are on buying spree across the globe and are using what foreign exchange they have available to snap up assets that look like bargain basement discounts.

          No better place than to begin in the US where dollars are always freely traded. But huge demand for them also exists in Africa and elsewhere (and the Chinese are happy to cooperate by trading them off for the plums).

          Not quite the same as just printing fiat and then trading it off for something tangible but pretty darn close when you consider on the flipside how they use credit expansion internally to power up their own economy.

          So in truth the Chinese are heavily invested in the dollar and dollar strength is perhaps more important to them to almost anyone. You get more bang for your buck at 84 than you do at 75.

          Reserve currency status is assured for decades for this one reason alone. China has a great deal invested in the bucks stability and the idea of many pundits that they are busy trying to form a reserve of their own is really a non starter from that perspective. Not for many, many years in the future anyway.

          We don’t question there is opportunism at work either as in the case of Australia which is so closely tide to China’s economy. Bad news out of Beijing almost instantly materializes as discounts on excellent mining properties down-under and the buyers from Asia have been quick to pick up properties at a bargain basement prices. Isn’t it great how that all works out for them?

          Back in America meanwhile, the worry that dollars might begin to start flooding back home is already underway. This is most apparent in the property sector and the acquisition of business that we are now seeing. Well that’s one way to stimulate the economy back home.

          One outcome of the Fed’s flooding the globe with liquidity is the double-edged nature of the event. When the Fed first embarked on QE’s we almost instantly saw a response in commodity speculation and inflation shot up in Asia as capital flowed to the better opportunities. A reversal of that trend is the situation where China ships its inflation back to the US and this will certainly be the outcome as asset acquisitions out of Asia heat up on US soil.

          But it is not really dollar dumping at work. Just the fair exchange of the cash built up by the worlds biggest manufacturing economy reinvested back where it came from. So if you ever wondered what were the real consequences of buying great shoes manufactured in Chinese sweat shops, well now you know.

          When it goes too far the other guys end up owning all your stuff. And that is what is happening. They get the mines, the factories, the legacy inventions, the retail outlets and in effect become your new boss.

          But will they ever be big enough to buy Walmart?!

            Jun 11, 2013 11:46 AM

            Not sure how I always seem to write a post without getting to the real point but I do it all the time none the less. What I am discussing here is inflation versus deflation and by doing so trying to make a point about how these dynamics function on the international stage.

            One of the truisms about deflation that is understood by all investors is that to survive a period of falling prices in order to thrive you need money (and lots of it). Cash is king when prices begin to spiral down, labour goes on the discount block due to a huge and growing surplus and business competitors are weakened as a result bringing even well known brands to the market for a fraction of prior worth.

            Only the strong survive. The rest bankrupt or get broken up and sold off piecemeal or acquired whole by the bigger fish. So we all know that if deflation is truly the risk we are facing on a macro scale (and this should be obvious by the demographics of most Western nations) that it is imperative you keep your cash intact and ready to be deployed when the opportunities arise.

            Grocery store inflation looks like a lightweight issue compared with the macro of Chinese GDP continuing to fall or Europe living through a period of economic paralysis with unemployment already at depression era levels in many countries.

            Ironically enough we are in fact experiencing rising inflation on the one hand for some of the reasons I mentioned in the previous post (dollars flowing back to the US) and yet this is happening against a backdrop of demographically induced deflationary trends that are certain to weigh on consumption and employment for many years to come.

            It is a puzzle for most but essentially means out incomes and standard of living will be getting squeezed from both ends as jobs become scarcer, assets like real estate do not perform except with intervention and prices for imported consumption goods actually rise due to energy costs, commodity inputs and labour rate inflation abroad.

            Good grief, does it get any worse?

            At the moment we are living in a period that has not decisively confirmed that we are either going to deflate and see a cleansing of the past misallocation of capital or if we will suffer high inflation absent genuine demand for goods and services.

            The case for both inflation and deflation are compelling. A winner has not yet been declared.

            The collapse of real estate itself in the US did not fully bring on the corrective period that is ordinarily associated with such catastrophic events as the economic crisis we were faced with. That is, frequent bank closures, debt resolution at the state level through bond failures or even a reconciliation of personal indebtedness that usually creates the necessary circumstances for the next period of growth.

            Instead, as we know, consumer debt remains elevated all these years later despite the tremendous losses on the asset side of the family balance sheet and student loan debt is at near epic levels against a backdrop of national savings rates that are again in decline.

            Pushing the consumption economy to perform in this environment is risky. It means the limited resources that might have become available for the next period of growth are instead squandered on imports which only serves to enrich our competitors while depriving us of the capital energy needed to rebuild.

            But we already know all that. It is not news and the huge trade imbalances have been discussed at length for many years now as have the poor levels of savings due to abysmal rates on offer. The thing is we have never yet arrived at the moment where it actually began to matter in a practical sense but it does seem to me that day may now be coming.

            So getting back to the idea of being prepared for the end of the commodity boom, the advent of “tapering” and continued deflation expectations in some of the biggest economies on earth, it must surely have occurred to most here who actually has the cash on hand to make the most of the coming opportunity.

            That would be the Chinese of course and their fat treasury of Euros and Dollars.

            In my household we will be investing in the fire-sale that now exists in resources in the coming months. More particularly the equities on sale in Uranium, Platinum, Silver, Gold, Copper and others. It is foolish to ignore the upside that lies ahead in the coming decades as global populations increase by many millions every year. This is obviously a long term strategic play though with the future still looking so uncertain.

            But is one household so different than the interests of a whole nation? I don’t think so.

            From that perspective we will watch in interest as the hoard of US dollars held by China gets deployed more and more during the asset deflation that I believe is still ahead in many countries.

            Certainly a trend is now in place where many commodities are in decline already (or have been for over a year) and this is most apparent in the risks posed by Europe not recovering to stimulate the worlds productive capacity combined with the worries that China’s overinvestment in capital infrastructure may finally be hitting the wall.

            Just how much further they can push that model before it goes terminal and implodes their financial sector is unknown but the unprecedented misallocation of wealth has to date shown no signs of slowing (which suggests to me that when it finally fails the results will be nothing less than epic).

            So we have a problem brewing where the lack of genuine demand in the West as the population ages is materializing as massive credit expansion in Asia to keep all the balls in the air and hide the cracks that are showing from consumption declines overseas.

            The consumer here meanwhile is clearly spent out and their resources have been drained. Across the seas manufacturing is slowing and inflation due primarily to credit issues and bad policy are rising. We all know something will give eventually. I happen to think the fat reserves held by some countries will be deployed sooner than later if we actually tip into a global deflation though. That is where the rubber meets the road in the big scheme of things and will determine the winners and losers over the coming decades as resource ownership shifts from one country to another.

            Remember all that cash? The chance to make it work most beneficially for the holders will come as all economies are in decline. That in itself is an unprecedented development even considering the Great Depression which was not a truly global event.

            Anyway….an unfinished thought. Perhaps to be completed another day….. I am tired out now and heading to bed.

            Jun 11, 2013 11:23 AM

            You hit the nail on the head! This is what I have been realizing as I further my research and look at what is happening – INTERNATIONAL MONEY FLOW. We live in an age where money can get transferred instantly from a keyboard, smartphone, or ipad and internationalization of markets has never been better. This to me is why we are not seeing the results of all the called for “economic models” playing out because of the international demand for dollars. The number one export of the U.S. is inflation.

    Jun 10, 2013 10:45 AM

    I read Grandich’s comments this AM and he was so correct to note what a jerk another CNBC anchorman was to immediately dismiss a massive seller just seconds before the employment release. No one in their right mind does that end of story or really just the beginning?

    RGT
    Jun 10, 2013 10:44 AM

    If I wanted to manipulate gold, all I would do is smash the supports in the futures market and watch it tumble. Oh…that’s exactly what the bullion banks are ILLEGALY doing.
    What really makes me sick is there are only a few brave people out there talking about these ILLEGAL operations. The entire gold industry should be taking action and they are not!!!
    Keep up the good work Peter.

    Jun 10, 2013 10:02 AM

    Al- you and Pete continue to be among the best informative commentators in this sector with honesty, integrity and humbleness. Amen to keeping up the good work.

    Jun 10, 2013 10:41 AM

    A new interview with William Kaye was just put out at KWN and he seems to agree with my earlier comment that we have bottomed. The whole interview is a good one. He described my approach perfectly when he stated: “We are fundamental investors and we look at charts only because other people look at them. And we use charts solely for our trading strategies, not for our fundamental investing strategies.”

    I also completely agree with Kaye when he stated that…

    “From an investment standpoint, we strongly believe that today’s gold prices are extremely attractive. We also believe that gold prices will be higher in the next 60 to 90 days, and in all likelihood they will be significantly higher than they are today.”

    http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2013/6/10_The_Ongoing_War_In_Gold_%26_A_Coming_Currency_Collapse.html

      Jun 10, 2013 10:30 PM

      As always, Matthew…thank you!!. And big DITTO to your comments Jerry. NOW, where is the sam h___- is IRISH! 🙂

    WELL, LIKE I SAID ……THIS MARKET IS GOING UP…..just because it is manipulated,,,and the big investors know ,,,,the entire world knows…….the RUSSIANS ARE not going to sell, and neither are the Chinese……..anyone not in this market ,,,is going to be real sorry…….and most likely will not be able to get back in …..MY MONIKER SAYS IT ALL……..LONG…………..AND STAY LONG……..

      Jun 10, 2013 10:25 PM

      Jerry, you must appreciate that gold and silver are not the only assets of interest to foreign governments. There is strategic purchases and inventories held of many other things including food for example. On this site and similar ones the whole focus is on metals but out in the real world where the action is happening there is a bigger story in energy, oil, uranium, copper, rare earths and renewables like timber and the rights that accrue to those who can get concessions or rights. Metals are just a side show to the big events taking place in the world right now and as we have seen it is not particularly profitable lately. I continue to see headwinds coming and the downtrend in gold and silver remains unbroken despite the fact we have seen a lot of sideways trading. There remains a lot of dead air space between where we are and where we are headed price-wise, in my opinion.

        BIRD…..You are correct ,that govt. needs to have many different inventories ,so, that the sheeple remain happy……food, heat,products for production, and defense.
        Metal are a great side show you say…,and is the main thing they are finding out that they need most……Oil for dollars ,is being substituted for Oil for gold… …uranium is to enriched for my blood,….. rare is the earth ,just look out into the heavens,….. shimmer my timbers renewable to be blessed,….. concession for confessions, … your right or flight to a country that respects your’s most……..NO….I will stick to my gold, as it says in GEN.2….for God said “GOLD IS GOOD”,and he knew best, that we would be put to the test….but, let us not forget ,that we are the best,and God , loved us all, so, to heck with the rest……………

    Jun 10, 2013 10:59 PM

    Peter you say nobody well I had my finger on the trigger; and the only reason: it has been so like clock work that when gold should go up it goes down and I should have been trading as such for the last while and would have made a small fortune by doing so but my better senses always says no, then I say Drat they fooled me again.

    Jun 10, 2013 10:06 PM

    Found this link U S Bank Gold Positions explode at highest rate on record; Short Positions Collapse posted June 10, 2013, http://chasvoice.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/us-bank-gold-positions-explode-at-hightest-rate-on-record-short-positions-collapse/

      Jun 10, 2013 10:30 PM

      Link didn`t go through but just go to `HOME`, & you`ll find it and more of gold, scandals lots of good stuff.

      Jun 11, 2013 11:01 AM

      Just as I have been warning Dennis. The banks will more and more be taking long positions in metals as the opportunity arises but this will not lead to price increases as the bets are not speculative. A massive short squeeze is ruled out as that is not really in the interest of those who would just prefer to open positions all the way down while not pushing prices back up again artificially. When this is all over the Hedges will have been satisfied by going short, the longs will have acquired significant strategic positions and only the speculators will have lost their shirts to all others.

    Jun 10, 2013 10:00 PM

    The big boys like Goldman get their info before the public and just to make it look like there is no inside info they place their trade a second before 8:30 am. That is why I sold everything the day before and bought back on Friday.