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November 19, 2014

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    FIB MEETING…………Fib a minute………

    Sign of the times……………CITI BANKER FOUND DEAD…..in bath tub with slashed throat…………zerohedge…..

      Nov 19, 2014 19:30 PM

      Jerry,

      What do you mean when you say the sign of the times when it comes to these people in the financial industry that either committed suicide or sometimes being murdered?

        JMiller,,,YOU might want to listen to a report at McAlvany today…concerning bank deposits and the G20 meeting ….. Next, go over to Watchdog usa…and listen to Gerald C……..

          Nov 19, 2014 19:36 PM

          Jerry,

          I already have heard those interviews. Now McAlvany is pretty sound. One of the few that has any credibility with me. Gerald Celente however can be a little bit of a wacko at times, IMHO.

          The G20 agreement concerning “bail-ins” pertains to uninsured bank deposits. A number of articles that I found state so including ZeroHedge.

          http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-12/russell-napier-declares-november-16-2014-day-money-dies

          Another site states the following concerning the G20 agreement:

          “For most Americans with savings or checking accounts in federally insured banks, normal FDIC rules on deposit insurance are still in play, but anyone with over $250,000 in any one account, or held offshore, will have their money automatically subject to bankruptcy disbursements from the courts based on a much lower rank of priority, and a much lower percentage of return.”

          If you want me to give a list of all the sites that make it clear that only uninsured bank deposits are affected I will be glad to. Unfortunately the McAlveny interview does not accurately state this fact and because of that “oversight”, whether intentional or not, may mislead people to believe that all deposits are treated like this.

          So since I do not have over $250,000 in the bank, the G20 agreement does not affect me. Things could, and probably will, change in the future but as of now my money is insured and not part of any bankruptcy proceedings in case of bank insolvency. And that is a fact as it now stands.

          Hey but thanks for bring things up like the G20 agreement, the possible problem with derivatives and even the SIPC. It got me to look into into it so now I have a better understanding of these things and can make more informed decisions if needed.

            One of the points that you might have missed is the fact that if derivative become an issue, which Barnhart illustrated in her eight part section, which I pointed out last week, provided by franky,,,,,,THE FDIC , does not have enough funds to cover any of the TBTF banks, if one goes down…..THINK about the possibility of not being able to withdraw any funds for a week., and then, maybe the possibility of only withdrawing $300 at a time……….All the banks are over levered…….and have been for years.

            Nov 19, 2014 19:57 PM

            Jerry,

            I only listened to about 2 minutes of pt. 3 of her series last week and there were several things she said that I do not agree with. She erroneous implies that the 300 or so small banks that supposedly have a perfect Texas ratio score were safe when in reality they may not be that safe. You can’t just look at that number (or any number for that matter) and tell. Also there are several potential problems with some of these small banks that have too much cash because they do not make enough loans which she probably does not realize. For example some small banks have their cash reserves held at the Federal Reserve Bank(Gulp!). Now is that safe? Or they just have it in a vault were it could be stolen which has happened. If so, do all these small banks have insurance in case of employee theft? The odds are that some do not. So right away what she says turns me off. However I want to listen to the whole thing, just have not got around to it. I have no doubt she will make some statements and present conclusions that are not necessarily correct.

            Nov 20, 2014 20:27 AM

            J Miller I agree with you over David McAlvany being solid. Disappointed that crazy Celente allowed himself to be the guest of Hunter’s, given how Celente tore into Hunter over his host’s all-out defence of the Israelis over Gaza.

            J.Miller………..ON the 300 safe banks with the Texas ratio,,,,I think the tape is a couple years old(?), but , the main message is the derivatives …….

            oh,,,,and the leverage….what did she say,,,, 100times more exposure if something goes wrong , which , it most like will , based on the collapse of 2008 if that is any indication. Remember AIG…Leyman (sp)…..

            Nov 20, 2014 20:04 AM

            Jerry,

            I know more about this than you do.

            Really……….?

            Nov 23, 2014 23:21 PM

            After viewing Ann Barnhardt’s complete 8 part series I find she says a number of things that are simply not true. For example in part 1 she gives an example where a few people are using tide detergent to pay bills and she calls it a currency. It is not a currency or money. It is being used in PLACE of currency or money. To be money it has to be a medium of exchange that is widely accepted to purchase goods and services. Tide detergent being used as payment is not widely accepted. It is not money or a currency. Continuing on in part 2 at the 12:15 mark she states that bond yields of certain countries are negative. That is totally false, all bond yields were and are positive. In the beginning of part 3 she is also wrong about the safety of banks that have a perfect Texas Ratio as I have stated in my one post above. Also later on in part 3 she misleads people concerning the amount of deposits that the FDIC insures. She states that there is 8-10 Trillion in deposits and implies the FDIC has that amount to insure. The fact is that only about 2/3 of that are insured. The other 1/3 of that amount is uninsured which the FDIC does not cover. Barnhardt implies that should a number of banks fail that the FDIC would have to come up with trillions of dollars. This is not true. The FDIC only has to make up for the shortfall of the insured deposits when a bank becomes insolvent. Most times it is only a small percentage of insured deposits. So should a number of medium to large banks become insolvent the amount that the FDIC would need to come up with would be more like $200 Billion to perhaps as much as $500 Billion, but not Trillions.

            When someone can not even get the simple things right how can you trust them to get the harder things right? The answer is you can’t. This is someone you need to take what they say with a grain of salt.

            Also she also does way to much ranting and raving at times which adds no value to the what truth she presented which I already knew.

    Nov 19, 2014 19:57 PM

    WEEE, today’s gold chart looks like the roller coaster at Darian Lakes, UP… DOWN, IN and OUT, WEEE I’m an Italian Stallion!

    Nov 19, 2014 19:16 PM

    Think about it, the government loves the stock market because it is the same as online gambling it creates massive revenue for them until the social problems happen from people who lose all their money and end up on welfare rolls. The markets are really a form of aggressive gambling and who ultimately benefits the most.

      Nov 19, 2014 19:18 PM

      You know a society is on the skids when the markets aren’t allowed to correct without, what was that noise I heard, CCCCCCCCCCCRASH!

    Nov 19, 2014 19:40 PM

    The course of stocks depends entirely upon the money situation and this is now more evident then anytime since the establishment of The Federal Reserve so who is being led down the garden path.

    Nov 19, 2014 19:44 PM

    Regarding these banker deaths, whacked instead of suicide.

    It looks as if there is a day of reckoning coming soon regarding the fraud, currency manipulation, commodity manipulation, Everything manipulation and derivatives.

    I’m sure these guys that met their maker knew way too much given their positions. I’m sure there will be indictments handed down soon, and the witnesses are being removed.

    So yes, I agree with J…..the ……long….. ( sign of the times )

      Nov 19, 2014 19:09 PM

      Most of these suicides were probably just that. If you look at past history you will find people in the financial industry commit suicide plenty of other times. For example Peregrine Financial Group CEO attempted suicide because of fraud that he committed. There were some that occurred because of the 1929 crash. So of course some people did commit suicide because of the financial crisis that has occurred since 2008. When someone willingly jumps in front of a train as one did, that is not murder. And some were probably were murdered by a disgruntled client or a spouse or some business partner.

        Nov 19, 2014 19:59 PM

        Your examples would mean more if there had just been a crash. These guys do not appear to have lost anything in the markets.

          Nov 20, 2014 20:42 AM

          Well some of them sure had problems as was the case with Richard Talley who used a nail gun. He was under investigation for fraud.

            JM…..were there several nails in his head?…..I thought I read or heard , there were several nails……..j……………………….

            Nov 20, 2014 20:08 AM

            Jerry,

            The guy was probably murdered by a client that got screwed by him. Someone who is a pro would not be so sloppy to commit a murder by using a nail gun and than try to make it look like a suicide.

      THANKS CHARTSTER………for the support……………………..ootb J……….

    Nov 19, 2014 19:37 PM

    Some probably were suicides. But when they rule a suicide with 4 shots to the head and 4 shots to the torso from a nail gun, it gets pretty goofy. You would ” think ” the guy might have changed his mind after the first shot from the nail gun?
    Oh no, he was committed, right? Lol

      Nov 19, 2014 19:57 PM

      I wouldn’t be surprised if none were suicides. Can you imagine what the odds are that there would be so many in a specific segment in such a short time?

        Nov 20, 2014 20:25 AM

        Matthew,

        It would seem that rate of suicides in the financial industry this year are about average for most years from what I just read.

        http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-03-24/no-there-is-not-an-epidemic-of-finance-suicides

        About 40,000 people a year commit suicide including people who work in the financial industry. Nothing real unusual about that.

          Nov 20, 2014 20:47 AM

          The role of BW, in this case, is to tell the curious masses that “there’s nothing to see here, move along…”

          I would like to see stats pertaining specifically to bankers —high-level ones at big banks in particular.

          I’ve found that the truth is always a great sheeple repellent. When in the great outdoors, I use Deep Woods Truth. 😉

          BUSINESS WEEK……………………IS MSN…………….

    Nov 20, 2014 20:52 AM

    JMiller,

    I take it you watch a lot of TV.

      Nov 20, 2014 20:09 AM

      I rarely watch TV. I got rid of mine 15 years ago.

    Nov 20, 2014 20:56 AM

    Columbia university perhaps?