You, for some reason, don’t see this in the media.
Cory and I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you. Remember it was reported by the Associated Press
Hezbollah Leader Says Islamic Extremists Have Hurt Islam More Than Cartoonists
The head of a Lebanese Hezbollah group voiced harsh words for Islamic extremists today, saying the violent actions of some Muslim militants have hurt Islam more than the people they attack.
According to the Associated Press, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah blasted religious terrorists while delivering a video address to followers in southern Beirut, saying that radicals have done more to disparage the Muslim prophet Muhammad than journalists who published satirical cartoons mocking Islam. The comments appeared to be an indirect reference to the recent shootings at the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in Paris, France.
A transcript of his exact words is not currently available, but AP reports that the sheikh, who condemned the September 11 attackson the World Trade Center in the past but was “silent” on the similar assault on Pentagon, said extremists who murder and behead people have done more harm to Islam than “anyone else in history.” Although no groups were mentioned by name, the remarks also appeared to discredit militant Islamic organizations such as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, also called the Islamic State, which has ruthlessly murdered and oppressed both non-Muslims and Muslims in Syria and Iraq.
Unlike the French shooters, who are reportedly linked to the Sunni Muslim terrorist group Al-Qaeda, Nasrallah’s group is primarily made up of Shia Muslims, who are typically less offended than Sunnis by depictions of Muhammad. Known for making inflammatory remarks about Israel — he once called the nation “a cancer” that must be eradicated — his Hezbollah branch is currently fighting in Syria alongside President Bashar Assad.
Dozens of other, far more moderate Muslim groups have also condemned the recent killings in Paris. Dalil Boubakeur, the head of the Great Mosque of Paris, was quick to decry the attackers.
“I want to denounce the horror and the unspeakable and show our compassion,” he said. “We condemn what just [happened] in the name of all Muslims. This is an act of war in the middle of Paris.”
The Arab League also spoke out against the shooters, saying the organization “strongly condemns the terrorist attack on Charlie Hebdo newspaper in Paris.” Al-Azhar, a prominent school of learning for Sunni Muslims, disavowed the shooters and noted that “Islam denounces any violence.” Muslims the world over have also used social media to strongly rebuke both the actions and the religious claims of the terrorists, saying their tragic deeds are an attack on Islam and free speech. Dozens of other Muslim organizations, leaders, and individuals have also disavowed the attackers in the harshest terms.
And that was my exact point, Joel.
Thanks man!
Or now we know why there weren’t any mass marches in the world’s cities by Muslims condemning the French murders.
Thanks Bob UK
One of the real problems with Islam is that if anyone who is Muslim dares to question anything about it – free speech, equality for women, tolerance for other religions, etc, etc, then they face the real threat of abuse, or torture or rape punishment or, quite simply, death. Usually it is death and death in the most barbaric of ways.
It is akin to where Christianity was in the 15th Century before Martin Luther stuck a piece of parchment on a cathedral door questioning Catholicism and thus began the Reformation.
However, as in the below video, there are brave and open-minded Muslims who are prepared to, very bravely, speak out. They need our support.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAxIOC8Zisc
#notinmyname
Thanks Bob UK
Maybe I should post it. What do you think?
I think that is an excellent idea.
You make two very serious errors.
First, you confuse Christianity with Christendom. They are not the same. There is no problem with Christianity, never has been, never will be; Christianity is the Word of God, faithful, true, immutable, infallible, inerrant. As such, it does not condone and NEVER HAS CONDONED abuse, torture, rape or death for simply asking a question about it AS YOU IMPLY. Indeed, God says in Isaiah 1:18, “Come now, let us reason together.” However, those who call themselves Christians still sin and some of them aren’t even Christians, a point Jesus makes abundantly clear, especially in the parable of the weeds.
Second, you fail to grasp that law (or moral standard) is belief (or religion) codified, and everyone believes something. The problem with Islam and every other false religion is that it it false, regardless of what its followers think, say and do. And bad religion results in bad laws. Therefore, Islam ought NOT TO BE SUPPORTED and Muslims ought to be encouraged – as I am encouraging you – to turn from wickedness and the darkness and turn toward righteousness and the light, even Jesus, who is the light of the world and the ruler of the kings of the earth (Revelation 1:5).
Suspicions are growing that the French shootings are a false flag operation
I do not know these sites or their credibility. I do know the mainstream media, and it has no credibility.
http://sgtreport.com/2015/01/paris-siege-false-flag-analyzing-the-cop-shooting-footag
Considering the number of real journalists on war fronts, not cartoonists in Paris, killed by Washington funded and organized ISIS, including filmed beheadings, the uproar over the cartoonists’ deaths has the appearance of orchestration. Whether or not it is a false flag operation, the shootings are being used for a wider purpose or purposes.
Among these purposes is bringing France back into Washington’s orbit. The French president had recently said that the sanctions against Russia should be terminated.
Hollande was allying himself with French economic interests instead of with Washington’s hegemonic foreign policy.
Another purpose is to stifle the growing European sympathy for the Palestinians and to realign Europe with Israel.
Another purpose is to counter the rising opposition in Europe to more Middle Eastern wars. The American neoconservatives have not completed their agenda. Syria, Iran,
Hezbollah, and Saudi Arabia are still standing.
And there can be other purposes not apparent to me.
My recommendation is that you not believe the print and TV media, but think. The failure of Americans to think is why they are 13 years into war and live in a police state.
This is from Paul Craig Roberts.
These isis guys happen to be moslem, they are using the religion as a tool to built their caliphate. Same as Boko Harem.
Typical of empire building I think, nothing really to do with islam, but they have said Bagdadi has been speaking to god, not the first time this has been used either.
In any case, even if the attack is a false flag, I doubt if too many people would want to hear it .
Wayne, please give some examples of bad religions. You’re remark are a bit concerning if not outright prejudicial. Maybe I’m misunderstanding your message because you are coming across as if only yours is the superior religion.
Christianity is the ONLY good and true religion, therefore, EVERY OTHER religion is bad and false, just as 4 is superior and the only good and true answer to 2 + 2, and every other answer is inferior and bad and false. When men reject God who made the universe, they become a law unto themselves and each man does what is right in his own eyes, according to his belief, his religion, whether he calls it Islam or Buddhism or Hinduism or Keylimism or Korelinism or just Me, My, or Mine.
Christianity is not my religion. I did not make it up. No man made it up. Christianity is my religion. By the grace of God, I have SUBMITTED to it because it is over me, because He is over me, because He is over ALL! I would repectfully urge you to consider the radical words of Jesus: “Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters” (Matthew 12:30). His message is clear: THERE IS NO NEUTRALITY! That is why EVERY religion is opposed to every other and strives for dominion through law. Therefore, repent and believe the Good News of forgiveness of sins through Jesus Christ.
This is the same thought process as Adolf Hitler and Nazi have. For they felt they were the superior race and Christianity was also a superior religion in their minds.Adolf Hitler also believed EVERY OTHER religion is bad and false.
“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
Your argument is bogus. Everybody has a thought process. You have a thought process. You think your thought process is superior to all others, else you would dump it for a better (or the best). BUT ON THE BASIS OF WHAT STANDARD WOULD YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION? ANSWER: YOUR OWN! You are doing EXACTLY as Hitler did. As you judge (or evaluate) my comments, you employ a standard against which to make your judgements (or evaluations). That standard is YOURS! You have become the LAWGIVER! In fact, you have become GOD! Which, of course, is impossible because God doesn’t become, that is why He says, “I AM who I AM” (Exodus 3:14). He has always been, but you have not always been. In fact, apart from God who made everything that was made, you cannot account for your own existence. Did you make yourself? Absurd. Did nothing make you? Nothing has no power. The difference between Christians and you and Hitler (who was no Christian but a devil), is that Christians knowingly SUBMIT to an authority that is over and above and exists apart from man. You, however, are like Hitler who foolishly thought he could MAKE right from wrong. “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding” (Proverbs 9:10). You need to repent, Keylime, “[f]or since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.” Life and death have been set before you. Choose life!
Any other Bible quotes you have Wayne to justify your thoughts against all other inferior religions?
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” He is not A way or A truth or A life. He is THE way and THE truth and THE life. Could His meaning be any clearer?
“Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.” Isaiah 44:8.
“For all the gods of the nations are idols, but the Lord made the heavens.” Psalm 96:5.
Wayne, one of the worst things about the Bible is that you can find a verse that will support any prejudice or form of intolerance. This has been done for YEARS. The KKK has done it, the Nazi’s have done it, the Religious Right does it, child beaters do it, misogynists do it, there’s an endless array of hatred and prejudice that has been supported by the Bible.
Unfortunately,The Bible has been abused in this way for centuries.
he KKK had many verses in the Bible that supports slavery, even beating your slaves, slaves are objects not people, and even an account where an Ethiopian didn’t understand the book of Isaiah, they felt that means that black people are too dumb to understand the gospel of Christ.
“Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ.” Eph 6:5
I agree. Men abuse the Scriptures. That doesn’t mean the Word is false.
The Nazis and many other anti-Semitic groups have a wide selection of verses from the Gospel of John (who blamed Jews for the Crucifixion) Acts (which contains accounts of Jews persecuting the apostles) and the Epistles of John (which they interpret as saying Jews are blasphemous). Here are two of these verses.
And he killed James the brother of John with the sword. And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.) Act 12:2-3 But the Jews which believed not, moved with envy, took unto them certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason, and sought to bring them out to the people. Acts 17:5
I agree. Men abuse the Scriptures. That doesn’t mean the Word is false.
I quote God and you quote Hitler. Read your own words. You are speaking non-sense. “One of the worst things about the Bible is that you . . .” Is it the Bible or is it me? I can’t understand you. “Unfortunately, the Bible has been abused . . .” Again, I ask, is it the Bible or people that are abusive? Or is it both? Hatred isn’t bad, neither is prejudice. I hate evil and I have prejudged Naziism, I didn’t have to embrace it to hate it. Anything can be abused (guns for example). Are you surprised that men can abuse the Word of God? Don’t worry. “But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken” Matthew 12:36. “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name” Exodus 20:7.
Interesting that you didn’t mention anything about the KKK.
Sorry but you are clearly to me quoting the Bible in the same manner as these other hate groups do by picking versus that support your views that all other religions are false. That to me is spreading the word of prejudice.
I don’t comment on the KKK because I know next to nothing about it, but you imply from my silence that I am a secret supporter. You ought to be sorry about that. I say that I hate evil and Naziism you make me out to be a Scripture-twisting hater. You are like your father the Devil.
Well I think you are.
Christians have pagan dna.
Good points Keylime.. Although I don’t feel Wayne is antisemitic he does have strong religious beliefs.
Wayne feels all religions other than his own are false religions. Many Muslims also feel that other religions other than their own are false or gutter religions.
BTW, Wayne you misquoted the Gospel of John, I believe he said “You are as your father the Devil”
Now that was directed at the Jewish people. Once again I don’t feel Wayne is antisemitic but that quote can be perceived as such.
I will take a stab at this.. why dont you see this in the media? just look at the title “Hezbollah Leader Says Islamic Extremists Have Hurt Islam More Than Cartoonists”. This is a terrorist group condeming other terrorists actions.. Not worthy of any news when you have terrorists not approving other terrorists methods. At the end of the day they are both still terrorists.
On a side note its nice to see some muslims actually condeming the attacks and in public.