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Big Al
July 1, 2015

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A little tough right now in the resource sector. Doc feels strongly that, “this too shall pass”.  Cory and I happen to agree. In my case I keep thinking back to 2008 and then 2009 with 2010 right around the corner. Therein lies the rationale behind continuing to stay informed in this area.

 

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41 Comments
    CFS
    Jul 01, 2015 01:55 AM

    At least Chris explained why Vitacost seems less good in terms of value for their products recently.

    bb
    Jul 01, 2015 01:20 AM

    Im not really a portfolio manager.

    I know of more companies worthy of investment than I have money to invest with.
    I posted a list of dividend payers paying over 10%, some up to 20%. a while back. For example, all good for a “diversified” portfolio. Not my focus tho.

    Personally I stay with what I know most about, PMs.

    So, Im not really a “portfolio” manager, but I do invest in PM companies.
    Invest? lol Gamble might be a better description.

      Jul 01, 2015 01:32 AM

      bb:
      My methods could be described the same way. Have been watching Gold canyon sinking every afternoon, it seems. Getting ready to put in a stink bid in the .08-.085 region. Can’t see too much risk if it has the resource base that it claims.

        bb
        Jul 01, 2015 01:51 AM

        Right now I prefer producers that will stay operating between 7-$800 gold.
        Some pay dividends.

        I havnt really been looking at explorers, there are companies with huge resources confirmed and will move to operating should gold rise. (those should jump 100s of % )

        Not to say there are no explorers worth a “shot” but the time required to identify them is more than I feel is necessary right now.

          Jul 01, 2015 01:11 PM

          Good discussion bb & Silverdollar. I personally don’t believe gold will get down to $700-$800, but I’m looking at companies that can survive at $1000 Gold and $14 Silver.

          As for diversification, I agree with Chris and Al, but I don’t think most people are qualified to be portfolio managers, and that is what Mutual Funds are for. You can get low risk, or high growth, or micro cap, or emerging market Mutual funds that will keep you diversified. There are also financial planners if you want a portfolio to managed with people that do that 24-7. Again, most people can’t study every sector simultaneously to follow everything, so they hire and expert, or just get a few mutual funds (that is all that 401k or IRA typically have in them other than bonds anyway, and now we also have ETFs that are like mutual funds in that they are diversified within a sector).

          Chris Temple made the point that you wouldn’t want a department store that just sold shoes without the other items, but I with differ with that opinion in that there are businesses called “shoe stores” that only sell shoes and they are quite successful. There are companies that just sell computers, or flowers, or suits, or cars. That’s called having a focus. Some restaurants offer multiple types of food (like TGI Fridays or Ruby Tuesdays) and that is a model that works, but some just sell pizza or subs or coffee, and they are also quite successful. Both models work.

          The commodity sector has been in a 7 year bear, and CRB index will be bottoming over the next few months, as mentioned at the beginning of this year. The PM bear market is just getting to the 4 year mark and will be bottoming along with the commodities and will likely come out of the gate first if the turds hit the fan in the fall.

          This is a perfect time to be diversified in many sectors to spread the risk; however, for a small percentage of ones assets the commodities and energy sector will offer much more upside than the general markets over the next few years. For those that can identify quality companies in this sector this year and hold those stocks for 3 years, versus McDonald’s, the commodities are going to outperform 3-1.

          There are thousands of investing sites that cover Apple, Dell, McDonalds, tech stocks & social media, bio tech, healthcare, utilities, dividend paying blue chips, airlines, etc…. There are a fair amount that cover energy (mostly Oil, some coal, Solar, Wind, and much fewer cover Nuclear or new forms of Green energy)…..There are very few any more that seriously cover the Precious Metals, Mining, and exploration in energy. This is what always stands out about the KER report.

          Your favorite sites section has many of the remaining sites that have survived or tried to survive this 4 year bear, and they’ll all double or triple in readership size once this sector rebounds over the next few years. At that point tons on new Precious metals sites will pop up trying to get in on the action.

          I’d rather focus my “Speculative” money on the commodities (miners) and energy (small producers and exploration) stocks that are just beat up bad (having lost 60-90% of their value), and ride up the next wave of the Secular Bull market in PMs.

          To me the biggest signs we are nearing a bottom in the Commodity and Energy sectors, other than the bankruptcies and M&A activity continuing to pick up, is everyone that is starting to jump ship at the worst time (the bottom). That’s how it is at any bottom though. When half of the miners switched to marijuana or biotech, and commodity experts like Frank Holmes start an ETF called (JETS) on the airline industry, then we are getting near the bottom. When PM focused sites, start plugging all kinds of unrelated stocks, then they cease to be a “Shoe Store” or “coffee shop” or “pizza place” and have decided to become a Walmart, or Dollar General. This means they have changed their business model. It may work and it may not work, but you’ll be competing with the “Walmarts” of the investing world.

          Just a thought.

            Jul 01, 2015 01:26 PM

            It’s hard to be an Ice Cream store in the middle of Winter, but Spring & Summer come along, it can be quite lucrative.

            Jul 02, 2015 02:38 AM

            I kind of like the NIKE shoe plan……….think big….invest in what you know, do your own DD…..and concentrate on what you do well……So, I kind of like the shoe shop.

            Jul 02, 2015 02:39 AM

            I hate Walmart and Dollar General……race to the bottom of the barrow…….

            Jul 02, 2015 02:53 AM

            Ps…… I do not go to a foot doctor to have my heart checked…….

            Jul 02, 2015 02:26 AM

            Yep. You caught my drift Frank….The Boot.

            There are specialty stores that have a focus and have a niche. There are investors that have a focus and have a niche. Some investors only invest in bonds, some only in Oil, or Soft Commodities. Then there are some that focus on the mining space in the metals markets. As we have mentioned countless times over the last few months, there are many companies like Lake Shore Gold, Guyana Goldfields, Klondex, Claude, etc… That had fantastic moves this year.

            There is always money to be made in any sector if you pick the right companies, read the corporate new releases, and use technical analysis to look for timing.

            Just picking companies at random in the entire investing universe (social media/technology/healthcare/real estate/airlines/financials/blue chips), is what having a financial manager is for, or why people just invest in Mutual Funds (managed by the pros). That is the Walmart/Dollar General approach. It also works, but I don’t believe that is why most people frequent this site.

            Jul 02, 2015 02:27 AM

            Yep. Long live the shoe shop 🙂

            Jul 02, 2015 02:46 AM

            Ditto…………. 🙂

        Jul 01, 2015 01:19 AM

        Silverdollar :
        GCU could be a good one.

          Jul 02, 2015 02:31 AM

          I keep hearing about Gold Canyon Resources but honestly am not familiar with them. Thanks for the heads up John K – I’m going to check them out.

          PS – I responded to you below on UCore and a few other specialty metals and rare earth companies that are about at rock bottom and may be worth following now.

    Jul 01, 2015 01:31 AM

    Quite a bit of news to come out on a national holiday. Canadian GDP lower for four months in a row. Rate cut said to be necessary when BOC has July meeting. Rates are good for a cut:

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/100013943

      bb
      Jul 01, 2015 01:55 AM

      That rate cut in Canada is only a maybe.
      The concern is Canadians already have too much debt and a cut would create more.

        Jul 01, 2015 01:06 AM

        Rather see a rate cut to help Canadian-domiciled gold mining companies. The previous rate cut WAS TO HELP LENDING.

        http://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/bank-of-canada-july-rate-cut-back-on-the-table-after-gdp-shocker-economists-say

          bb
          Jul 01, 2015 01:15 AM

          I don’t believe they were to “help” lending in the least, banks are hoarding more cash than can be counted now, check the profits. BMO,RBC etc

          Lower interest rates create bubbles, we already have one in housing. Supposedly.

          Anyway, that’s what they say they are trying to “balance”, so, the rate cut is not really a done deal.

            Jul 01, 2015 01:22 AM

            Rate cut is inevitable and determined by the bond markets, which are showing lower rates than the policy rate. If the policy rate is kept where it is, higher than rates set by the market, then lending shuts down.

            Banks hoarding money will eventually usher in negative rates.

          CFS
          Jul 01, 2015 01:37 AM

          Any variation in interest rates in Canada has little effect on mining companies.
          Almost all mining companies that finance are at Libor +x%, where the x depends on the collateral and prospects of the company.

            Jul 01, 2015 01:35 PM

            But the resulting weak C$ would keep labor costs down for those with projects in Canada.

    Jul 01, 2015 01:34 AM

    Bravo Mr. Temple for keeping it real.
    So right you are Big Al about passion and innovation not being dead.
    A rising tide lifts all boats as a falling tide will surely sink them.
    The Macro picture is and always will be important.I agree that going around with blinders on with two small of a focus will lead you nowhere except to fustration.
    I recently returned from a trip to Alaska. The resource stocks are in a slump granted,but from what I saw exploration is still healthy.Alaska could be an area to keep your eye on.

      Jul 01, 2015 01:46 PM

      Great points John K.

        Jul 01, 2015 01:08 PM

        Thanks Shad:
        Keep an eye on UCU.V
        Interesting things going on behind the scenes with this one.
        I started building a position 5/29/2015.

          Jul 01, 2015 01:10 PM

          Yes, John K. I am familiar with Ucore and believe that they are one of a handful of rare earth companies that may actually make it longer term.

          Just to clarify, while I absolutely believe in being diversified (and I am in my retirement account full of a bunch of typical Mutual Funds and a small amount of bonds), I also see the value of FOCUS in life, and in investing. I let others handle my retirement account, and on my “Trading Account” I believe in Focus, and in investing in what one understands. For examle – I don’t understand Bio-tech, so if I want exposure I just use the ETF (IBB).

          So from a Macro sense, I absolutely agree you can’t go walking around with blinders on, but if you want to really understand something, then you do need to lock in and really study it for small bursts of time. Think Martial Arts – you can’t study every discipline all at the same time or you’ll be a mess. You need to pick Karate, Judo, Kung-Fu, whatever, and master about 7-10 moves.

          Over the years, I have studied commodities and the companies that extract them. That is the primary focus in my speculative Trading account.

          Just my 2 cents.

          Good luck to you John K in your investing. Please keep sharing the good investment ideas.

          p.s – for Rare Earths & Specialty metals here are a few others to check out: Avalon Rare Metals, Alkane Resources, Tasman Metals, Matamec, Commerce Resources, Niocorp, Rare Element Resources, IBC Advanced Alloys, Arafura Resources, Frontier Rare Earths, Quest Rare Minerals, and Iluka Resources.

          Best to you!

    Jul 01, 2015 01:36 AM

    My recent purchases of Disney, and Dr. Pepper are slowly moving up. Also in midcap etf MDY and spider 500 SPY . I am short one oil company and have a 2% profit on my short . My oil company and pipeline companys preferreds are mostly rising, but thier common stock parent companys are falling. best of health and wealth to you all S

    CFS
    Jul 01, 2015 01:40 AM

    It would be a mistake to misread enthusiasm expressed by a company spokesperson for pure flimflam.

    Jul 01, 2015 01:42 PM

    Junior’s pain = my gold bear gain!

      Jul 01, 2015 01:46 PM

      You’re a JDST ninja Jason.

        Jul 02, 2015 02:17 AM

        Hopefully you did a Ninja vanish before the pop in metals today my friend.

          Jul 02, 2015 02:19 AM

          should have said pop in metals miners (aka: GDXJ, and GDX)

    Jul 01, 2015 01:31 PM

    So Al you are going to switch to Johnny Walker?

    Jul 01, 2015 01:38 PM

    Chris Temple,
    Do you have any thoughts on Nickel at the moment ?
    Cheers.

      Jul 02, 2015 02:38 AM

      My thoughts on nickel wouldn’t be worth 5 cents…don’t follow the market enough to make an informed comment on this specific metal. Sorry!

        Jul 02, 2015 02:54 PM

        Ok.
        Thanks for replying Chris.
        Cheers.

    Jul 01, 2015 01:48 PM

    Interesting article in the Telegraph – if it is right then the Greeks are going to default on all their debt no matter what.

    What happens to global markets then?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11712098/Europe-has-suffered-a-reputational-catastrophe-in-Greece.html

      Jul 01, 2015 01:14 PM

      Agreed Bob their will be some form of a default. The question is will anyone care when it comes?

    Jul 01, 2015 01:51 PM

    Chris Temple is really well grounded. I always appreciate his logical approach to the markets.

    thanks Chris

      Jul 01, 2015 01:16 PM

      agreed.

      Jul 02, 2015 02:39 AM

      Thanks, guys — I do my best 🙂

        Jul 02, 2015 02:08 AM

        Chris I always enjoy your perspective, and you’re a scholar and gentleman. Please don’t interpret my comments above on the difference of opinion on investing as snarky. I have the greatest respect for your views, and investors that are good at picking winning stocks as they analyze the world marketplace around them…..I just don’t think most people have the time, knowledge, or action plan to manage their own portfolios in multiple sectors, and think many would be better suited in select Mutual Funds or EFTs over being stock pickers.

        Stock pickers either need a reasonable amount of Fundamental data if they are “buy and hold” and Technical Analysis knowledge if they are actively trading in the market. For this reason, it does help to have focus in life and in direction. There have still been a number of great mining stocks that outperformed this year like Lake Shore Gold, Guyana Goldfields, Klondex, Claude, etc…, but one would need to have been laser-focused and understood the sector to have targeted those companies like a few on the blog have.

        Really all 3 systems work:

        1)Having a Portfolio Manager or select Mutual Funds as a way of diversifying risk
        2) Being a select Stock picker out of the entire investing universe and diversifying sectors, growth profiles, getting some dividend-paying stocks, and watching the world around you for emerging trends.
        3) Being focused enough within a sector to really understand it, the players, the financials, the industry, and the winners and losers based on their current report cards or technical indicators.

        Everyone has different investment objectives, different risk profiles, different time horizons, and different strategies. May everyone on this site be very prosperous no matter what system you follow!