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Doc says that it is time to “Make a List”

Big Al
August 3, 2015

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The Conventional Markets (Dow Jones Industrial Average; The S &P 500; and, the NASDAQ) along with the prices of gold and silver are all, so far treading water today. Doc feels that at the present time “cash is king”.

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27 Comments
    Aug 03, 2015 03:42 AM

    Good program guys. Doc is very definite today in his thoughts. Guess we could turn the computer off for a couple weeks and save the electricity.

      Aug 03, 2015 03:18 AM

      Doc Charley is very straight-forward in his analysis and seems to have a good grasp on the potential outcomes in PMs, the general markets. Today was interesting in that his statements were that the bounce may have moved back to the end of August, so that was an update worth noting for the 3rd week in Aug.

    Aug 03, 2015 03:44 AM

    Hey Doc, what do you think about Harmony Gold’s (HMY) dividend. Do you think its sustainable around these levels. Sure a nice fat yield.

      Aug 03, 2015 03:06 PM

      Don B—-I would be careful with HMY for a number of reasons one of which is the following:”Harmony Gold, on May 19, commenced a 60-day consultation process with organized labor at its Doornkop mine in order to find ways to return the mine to profitability or to place it on care and maintenance. The company along with the unions concluded that a new operational plan will be adopted for Doornkop that will return the mine to profitability. This will also save considerable number of jobs.”

      It tells me the dividend might be at risk.

        Aug 03, 2015 03:37 PM

        Doc, Al, Cory:

        Rye Patch down 16% today and now at 10 cents a share. I don’t have much but was thinking of buying more. Any thoughts? Anyone?

    CFS
    Aug 03, 2015 03:05 AM

    There are always THREE ways to play any market:

    Short,

    Out

    Long

      Aug 03, 2015 03:37 AM

      I thought it was short, medium , or long?

    Aug 03, 2015 03:25 AM

    It’s clear this site is really the purview of traders with short to medium term objectives. Which is fine.

    It is not the place for me.

    Time periods are discussed in two weeks, bounces are thought of in terms of trades.

    Stocks are mostly flyers.

    It is clear precious metals are really only thought of a trades.
    I guess CNBC was right when they referred to gold as the “gold trade” in a derogatory way.

      bb
      Aug 03, 2015 03:32 AM

      That’s exactly what it is James, an accumulator would likely just buy physical monthly.

        bb
        Aug 03, 2015 03:36 AM

        Kinda funny as A Listener pointed out, hard money advocates playing with so much paper/digits to acquire fiat.

          Aug 03, 2015 03:14 PM

          Yup, the gold bugs are officially their own worst enemy now. The last of the survivors are virtually all paper traders punching numbers into their computers and eschewing physical. And that means they have joined the camp of those they said they despised.

          Gad Zooks…the bugs are manipulating the market too!

    Aug 03, 2015 03:29 AM

    IF THE DOLLAR DIES, CRASHES OR BURNED WHAT GOOD IS IT TO HAVE CASH UNDER THE MATTRESS?

    ‘simply said’
    wyn

      Aug 03, 2015 03:45 AM

      Yes, but the USD is not going to crash and burn.

      There is not going to be some new world order. Nor are the green lizard people from Alpha Centauri running the governments of the world.

      Any American who thinks such things about the USD needs to get him or herself a passport, buy a plane ticket and go have a look at elsewhere on the planet.

        Aug 03, 2015 03:16 PM

        Funny you mention that Bob. The other day I read that only 13% of Americans are traveling abroad. I was kind of surprised because I always thought it was a higher number. No idea where I saw the article though…maybe take my 13% with a grain of salt.

          GH
          Aug 03, 2015 03:00 PM

          Sounds right to me, A Listener.

          Bob UK, I’d like you to be right. But I can’t wrap my head around how the USD can maintain its purchasing power of the things we need (food, energy, etc.) when the U.S. debt and unfunded obligations are somewhere between $70K and $200K for every man woman and child in the country (depending whose #s you believe…this stat is a couple years old, too).

      Aug 04, 2015 04:39 AM

      If the dollar dies, crashes or burns silver and gold aren’t going to do you any good either. Doesn’t anyone think about the following: If the currencies were to completely collpase, who in their right mind is going to give you anything in exchange for gold or silver coins?
      For instance, are individuals who have hoarded food really going to take your gold and silver in exchange for food? I doubt it! You’re not going to be able to eat gold and silver.
      So, if you’re really in the camp of people whom believe there’s going to be a currency collapse, it seems to me that the wisest things to purchase now are things that you can eat, drink, and perhaps keep yourself warm with.

        Aug 04, 2015 04:10 AM

        I see the MACD black lines crossing the red lines to the upside on a number of gold/silver related charts (GDX,GDXJ,$GOLD,$SILVER, with the $HUI and the $USD treading water). If the $USD crosses, I’m for sure buying gold and/or silver stocks for some type of rally. (and selling if they recross to the downside 🙂

    Tom
    Aug 03, 2015 03:51 AM

    Doc: Thanks for the thoughts. Always appreciated. I believe your TA is spot on with mine. Could you name a few of the “good” companies you might be take positions in here?

      Aug 03, 2015 03:00 PM

      Tom, as far as PM companies, I’m not taking positions here since I believe I’ll be able to get them in the future at better prices when I’m comfortable that the technicals have pretty much flattened out on the longer term charts.

    Aug 03, 2015 03:54 AM

    GOOD THOUGHTS FROM THE CREW………………………………………..THE CLAW

    Aug 03, 2015 03:51 AM

    Hey I been making my list since 2012 – I have absolutely been POUNDED with my purchases……just bought a little more Pretium and FF.. ..u know what???…I could be crying right now – big time – but there are people out there A WHOLE LOT SMARTER than yours truly that have been “PAPER” slugged in the mining sector…have we lost money NO! – because we havent been stupid enough to panic and SELL our postions – How about you??Peace!

      Aug 03, 2015 03:11 PM

      I’ve been Paper-slugged my fair share of times, but I was able to correctly ride short counter-trend rallies up and also successfully short the PMs with inverse ETFs like DUST, JDST, and ZSL more often that I got slugged out 🙂

      I have a list that is always being refined and updated as fundamental or market dynamics shift, but get in and get out rather quickly and don’t do the buy an hold thing (yet).

      When we get confirmation of the Major bottom in PMs, I’ll leave some positions on as longer term holds, but will still trim those position down into extreme strength, and then repurchase back on the dips in that kind of environment to lower my overall cost basis.

      Aug 03, 2015 03:58 PM

      I have lists going back to 2010 or 2011 and I was too lazy to buy anything. Idleness sometimes pays! I was a little fazed when I heard a couple of guys in a nice fairly affluent town pub in England and one guy mentioned he was buying gold stocks. That was in 2010 and a red flag to me. I thought gold might top at $1430 in Nov/|Dec 2010 but it went on a tear in 2011 after silver. I am so glad I left the stocks alone.

    Aug 03, 2015 03:51 PM

    Ze List.
    “Your name will also go on ze list”.
    The captured German U-Boat commander on Dad’s Army BBC comedy.
    Absolute classic.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V3SqxUomwk

      Aug 04, 2015 04:47 AM

      funny.

    Aug 03, 2015 03:01 PM

    Re: Canadian oil – T. Boone sure makes a lot of sense. Why can’t O’bummer et al see the advantage of being mid-east oil-free?

    T. Boone Pickens and Congressman Michael McCaul (22 minutes)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzAVZnko0j4

    Aug 04, 2015 04:53 AM

    Quoting Wayne Allyn Root:

    “Trump’s election would be a nightmare. Obama has committed many crimes. No one else but Donald would dare to prosecute. Donald Trump will not hesitate. Once Donald gets in and gets a look at “the cooked books” and Obama’s records, the game is over. The gig is up. The goose is cooked.

    “Eric Holder could wind up in prison. Valerie Jarrett could wind up in prison. Obama bundler Jon Corzine could wind up in prison for losing $1.5 billion of customer money.

    “Hillary Clinton could wind up in jail for deleting 32,000 emails …or accepting bribes from foreign governments while Secretary of State …or for “misplacing” $6 billion as head of State Department …or for lying about Benghazi.

    “The entire upper level management of the IRS could wind up in prison. Obamacare will be defunded and dismantled. The Obama Crime Family will be prosecuted for crimes against the American people. And Obama himself could wind up ruined, his legacy in tatters.

    “Trump will investigate. Trump will prosecute. Trump will go after everyone involved…just for fun. That will all happen on Trump’s first day in the White House.

    “Who knows what Donald will do on day #2?

    “That’s why the dogs of hell have been unleashed on Donald Trump. That’s why we must all support Donald. This may be our only shot at saving America, uncovering the crimes committed against our nation and prosecuting all of those involved.”

    – See more at: http://www.rootforamerica.com/webroot/blog/2015/07/07/why-obama-and-hillary-must-stop-donald-trump-at-all-costs/#sthash.srrZDhPO.dpuf