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Bullish Expectations In The Metals In 2016

December 29, 2015

Here is Avi’s outlook for the metals in 2016. While he is much more bullish don’t be expecting a big move early on in the year. This will take time.

 

As we move into the 5th year of this correction in the metals, I would like to take us back a bit in history before we move forward to our expectations, which should be instructive as to how we will be turning bullish in 2016.  I also want to review how we treat corrections, so that you understand our process a bit better.

For those that have been following me since we opened Elliottwavetrader.net in 2011, you will remember that we were looking for gold to top in the $1,915 region, and then drop down to a 145 first target region in the GLD ETF.  (We moved into charting GLD over gold since that is what our members requested at the time, and I have maintained that perspective, while one of our other analysts – Arkady Yakhnis – analyzes spot gold).  Gold then topped within $6 of our expected target, and then dropped down to 148, where it initially bottomed.

At the time, I noted that this “could” be the entire correction in gold, and we will need to seek confirmation for a further rally to our next higher target well over $2,200.  However, we noted quite clearly that if we do not see confirmation, then it opens the GLD to drop to our next lower target in the 98-105 region.  And, since we never received confirmation that the market bottomed at 148GLD, we began to look towards our lower target level three years ago, despite much disbelief by most that read our analysis at the time.

Now, even before we topped in 2011, I had noted that my ideal target for the correction in gold was the $700-$1,000 region.  So, it is still “possible” that we drop down as low as the $700 region, but there is nothing on the chart right now that is suggestive of us breaking below $1,000.  In fact, just like everyone was so certain we would exceed $2,000 after we moved through $1,900, it seems everyone is just as confident now that we will break $1,000.  But, to be honest, I am not quite as confident, as the market does not often do what most expect.  However, should the set up develop, I will certainly alert all our members at Elliottwavetrader.net so that you may prepare.

Whether the bottom will be at just over $1,000 (which is preferred at this time), or at $875, or at $700 – all 3 being strong Fibonacci target regions for the bottom in the long term gold correction – once the market finally strikes a bottom, we will go through the exact same confirmation process that I used at the 148GLD region.  We will need to see a 5 wave structure off that low, followed by a corrective pullback, and then a rally over the high of the initial 5 wave structure.  Until I see that play out, I will not be able to confidently state that the long term bull market has resumed.  But, I will also warn you that, as we are completing an ending diagonal, the upside reaction can be quite violent once the final bottom has been struck.

Now, to be honest, I believe that confirmation was much more important if the market would have provided a high level correction, such as in the 145-150GLD region.  But, when we have dropped over 70% in the silver market from its 2011 highs, I can actually be a bit more confident that a final bottom has been struck once we hit our lower targets, and then see a strong 5 wave move off that low.  So, this is what I will be seeking out once we strike our lower targets.

Moreover, due to the fact that this last segment of the correction in GLD has taken the form of an ending diagonal, it suggests that the last move down in the market will likely be a spike down, followed by an even stronger spike back up, which “should” signal the resumption of the long term bull market.  And, such reversals from ending diagonals often target the region from where the ending diagonal began, and in quick fashion.  That means that once we strike the bottom in the GLD, we will likely see a very strong and fast rally right back towards the 122-132 region to complete the first impulsive wave that will mark the resumption of the long term bull market.  And, I strongly believe that 2016 will be the year that we declare the resumption of the metals bull market.

I would like to conclude by addressing one more issue, which should also provide some insight into how to properly approach technical analysis.  Over the years, I have been questioned why I had several targets for this correction.  The answer is based upon the fact that financial markets are non-linear.

You see, there is never something that will provide you with 100% certainty in the financial markets.  Rather, when you trade or invest in financial markets, you are dealing in probabilities, not certainties, and your goal should be to focus upon the stronger probability scenarios.   Furthermore, one has to have a very objective standard as to when one’s primary expectation is wrong, and you need to be able to make such determinations early enough so that you can realign your portfolio quickly to maintain on the correct side of the market.

So, when a market enters into a correction, there are several Fibonacci targets the market may strike during the correction.  While the first target may become the final target, it is most often the second lower target which marks the bottom for the correction.  But, if you automatically assume that the second target must be struck, and the market actually does bottom at the first, then you are left behind scratching your head as the market runs away from you.

So, several years ago, when the market struck our first target – which, by the way, was identified even before we began the correction – we needed to watch for confirmation or invalidation that the market was going to bottom at that first target.  Once the market made it clear that the first target was not going to maintain the bottom of the market for this correction, we began looking towards our next lower target region.  Even though we began looking much lower in the market in early 2013, many did not believe our lower targets, since, at the time, they seemed so low to most.  But, now, we are finally within reach of the ideal targets we set even before the market topped in 2011.

So, as we approach those lower target regions, we are doing so with an almost complete Elliott Wave corrective structure.  This tells me that the next drop to lower lows which approach our long term targets can very well represent the final lows these markets see for many years to come.  For this reason, I have finally been suggesting to investors that it is time to redeploy your capital to the long side in this market when it comes to the physical metals.  And, for those that have been following us for some time, you will know that we are expecting a multi-decade bull market to begin in the metals complex once this correction completes.

As for those that are looking to move into individual mining stocks, I am going to suggest much more caution.   This past fall, we rolled out a Miners Portfolio service at our website.  Our management team that oversees this portfolio includes Zac Mannes, Garrett Patten, Larry White (who has led his subscribers to total returns exceeding 400% in 2015 trading miners) and myself.  We often meet to review the mining stocks in which we are interested for our portfolio, which is focused upon the long term.

When reviewing the various miners, we have run across many mining stocks which clearly have not bottomed yet, some of which have set ups which suggest they could be filing bankruptcy before this correction completes.  So, unless you know the market very well, and have extensive experience in this complex, I am suggesting you may want to hold off aggressively investing in mining stocks – especially the junior miners – until we have seen a confirmed bottom in this complex.

In conclusion, I want to reiterate my 2016 perspective that I mentioned above:

I strongly believe that 2016 will be the year that we declare the resumption of the long term metals bull market. And, even though I believe those interested in the long term prospects in this market should be looking at deploying their money back into physical metals, more caution is needed when it comes to mining stocks, as there is more immediate danger in that segment of the complex (especially the junior miners) until a confirmed bottom is seen.

See charts illustrating the wave counts on the GLD, GDX, YI, HUI and XAG at https://www.elliottwavetrader.net/scharts/Charts-on-GDX-GLD-YI-HUI-XAG-201512271021.html

Discussion
31 Comments
    LPG
    Dec 29, 2015 29:46 PM

    Great insights from Avi, as usual.
    LPG

    Dec 29, 2015 29:36 PM

    Thanks for your thoughts Avi,
    Much appreciated.
    Cheers.

    Dec 29, 2015 29:54 PM

    “Whether the bottom will be at just over $1,000 (which is preferred at this time), or at $875, or at $700 – all 3 being strong Fibonacci target regions for the bottom in the long term gold correction – once the market finally strikes a bottom, we will go through the exact same confirmation process that I used at the 148GLD region”

    “I can actually be a bit more confident that a final bottom has been struck once we hit our lower targets, and then see a strong 5 wave move off that low. So, this is what I will be seeking out once we strike our lower targets.”

    Wow ! we have reach the bottom or we can see 1000$, 875$ or 700$ and after an impulse wave (a strong 5 wave move off that low) we will be able to confirm the bottom. With an analysis like that, we will surely tell everybody that we called
    the bottom perfectly !!!

    Good analysis as usual, lol … with a range of more than 300$/ounce !

      Dec 29, 2015 29:06 PM

      Gabriel,

      I am not sure if you actually read the whole article, or just have an issue with comprehension, but when we catch the move down from 1900 to 1000,, we have basically caught 100% of the move down thus far. Now, if gold does move down another $300, we will likely see the set up for it before it happens. But, even if we don’t, we still have not only benefited from HUGE price improvement – while most of the market has been looking up the entire way down – but we would have still gotten 75% of the entire short ride down. Beyond that, we are now starting to position for the ride back up. So, personally, I would be quite happy with that situation from a long term price improvement perspective. In fact, I don’t know any other group that has even come close to doing that well over the last 5 years. If there is someone that has done better, I would love to see it.

      But, I suspect you just simply criticizing for its own sake, and as Franklin noted:

      “Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.”

        Dec 29, 2015 29:30 PM

        From seeking alpha dec. 27 2011, Gold At $2000: Coming Sooner Than You Think

        “When gold does find support at one of the cited levels, the rally which will ensue will be quite strong and sharp to the upside, even potentially parabolic, in fact. It will even surprise many investors as to how fast and strong gold will move up towards the $2,000 level from these regions.”

        “In the event that gold does find support at one of the higher levels, then the higher targets for the metal that I left you with the other day are still applicable: $2,111 (2.236 extension), $2,232 (2.382 extension), and $2,429 (2.618 extension).”

        Please stop saying you catch100% of the move down from 1900 to 1000.
        When gold was 1600 at the end of 2011 you were expecting a move above 2000.

        And no need to insult anybody and telling me how good you are or how your service is the best in the last 5 years …

        Just the fact …

          Dec 29, 2015 29:32 PM

          I suggest you read what I wrote above . . what you quote is EXACTLY about that which I speak in the article. So, rather than take something completely out of context, I suggest you put into the proper context of us looking for that confirmation. And, when we did not get it, we began to look much much lower in early 2013. So, again, is it a reading comprehension issue, or is it just trying to criticize for its own sake.

          If you ask my members that followed me through the last 4 years, they will tell you how well we have done, and how we caught the entire move down.

            Dec 29, 2015 29:45 PM

            You shocked me with this absurd argument. You should read your own articles.

        Dec 30, 2015 30:04 AM

        Avi,

        Cool your ego and have some manners!

    Dec 29, 2015 29:34 PM

    In fact, why not read what they have said about our metals analysis right here:

    https://www.elliottwavetrader.net/testimonials.php?categoryId=17

    Dec 29, 2015 29:14 PM

    Avi,
    Do you think gold is going UP or Down? That’s what gets me with Elliot wave. There’s alway two sides of the story. Which anyone can call…!

    What’s gold gonna do?? Well, it could go up or down..
    ….GR8…. Thanks!

    Dec 29, 2015 29:15 PM

    It’s going down, BTW.

    Dec 29, 2015 29:47 PM

    Avi,
    I mean no disrespect, but Elliot wave always has two sides of the story. It seems as if everyone with that theory is lost. Given your trading history , you are doing well with it. For me, I have to go with a trend I believe in ( until that trend changes )

    Dec 29, 2015 29:45 PM

    I may not agree with Avi however I like to hear his point of view….

    BK
    Dec 29, 2015 29:30 PM

    Avi is the man! Wish you would chart GC instead

    Dec 30, 2015 30:55 AM

    Avi as well as Rick, always seem to have accurate target areas. Which does happen to be where the money is made on the trade…
    It’s just the confusion of the overall trend that bugs me.

    Dec 30, 2015 30:50 AM

    Gabriel, you’re quick to criticise, so do you care to lay out your thoughts on where gold is heading?

    Of course no one can say with 100% certainty that gold will bottom at $1000,$875 or $700. If we could,we’d all be millionaires. All you can do is work within probabilities and look at the intraday charts once you’ve laid out your big picture scenario like Avi has done.

      LPG
      Dec 30, 2015 30:02 AM

      +1 on the process Karl.
      Best,
      LPG

    Dec 30, 2015 30:54 AM

    P.s Avi is rightly cautious on miners. The big cap miners are holding up too well for my liking. I am looking for a big plunge – I’m thinking 50% – before I initiate long term positions. In the meantime I’ll just trade.

    Dec 30, 2015 30:08 AM

    Avi, you come across as very arrogant & condescending…no one else has on this site.
    Gabriel was raising a relevant point…..

      Dec 30, 2015 30:13 AM

      LPG,
      -1
      Objectivity is always good.
      Just my 2c

      Dec 30, 2015 30:18 AM

      Thanks for the comment Agatha.

      I personally don’t find Avi to be either arrogant or condescending.

      I think that he is a decent person who is quite bright.

      Interestingly enough, I feel the same way about Gary.

        Dec 30, 2015 30:21 AM

        ok Big Al,
        you can block my IP Adress.

        Dec 30, 2015 30:33 PM

        Al,

        All do respect, but the best way for readers to send a message to this website is to at least avoid reading Mr. Gilburts comments. He’s doing what other posters were asked not to do by yourself an Cory.
        I’m sure many of your sponsors read these posts as well.

        Rather disappointed.

    Dec 30, 2015 30:11 AM

    Karl,
    I don’t talk out of both sides of my mouth and I never said I am the best.
    I think I have the capability to read an article and I know Elliott Wave like many persons here on this site.
    I respect everybody and their opinions.
    If I had bought gold at 1600 at the end of 2011 expecting a price higher than
    2000$ after reading this article in seeking Alpha, I don’t think I will accept that the author claims that he called the top at 100% from 1900 to 1100.
    Insulting and always talking and promoting his site to get more suscribers seems to always be his defense.

    Finally, you should know that I often post chart on this site and that my position is clear on gold. I don’t give all the FIB extension price to claim that I called perfectly the top or the bottom after the fact.

    It seems to be the same Modus operandi …

    Dec 30, 2015 30:28 AM

    Gabriel, I would agree that Avi is promoting his site. But is that any different to what Rik and Gary do? It seems you spent quite some time going through Avi’s old articles looking for an incorrect prediction. But surely you could do that with any newsletter writer?

    I read everything but I don’t follow anyone. One thing I have learnt is that to be successful in this game, all your trades have got to be your own. That way, you can trade with confidence.

    Dec 30, 2015 30:33 AM

    I’ve just read Jesse livermores reminiscences of a stock operator. Though 100 years old, traders still have the same problems Jesse faced. The psychology of trading trumps the technicals imho.

    An excellent book.

    Dec 30, 2015 30:47 AM

    Folks, I recognize that my analysis is not for everyone. It is not something you can simply pick up and understand all the intricacies from just one read. In fact, you need to understand if/then logic to be able to apply it. You cannot think about markets in a linear fashion, since markets are not linear.

    But, many who view markets from a linear perspective clearly do not understand what I am saying or what I have said.

    As an example, someone pointed to my call at 148 that we may have bottomed in GLD. And, if you go back and read my analysis at the time, it is exactly as I stated in this article here. You see, the market has many paths it can take. And, when it reaches a fork, you must give the market room to make a decision, and prepare for the decision.

    That is what we did at the initial drop to 148 in GLD in 2011. The potential was for the bottom being in, even though my PREFFERED perspective was for us to head down to 700-1000 in gold. But, what I prefer and what the market does may be two different things, and my primary concern is to respect Mr. Market, as no one gives a damn about what I prefer. So, we went long at that support, and gave the market the opportunity to prove itself. At the time, we ultimately stopped out with a small gain due to our good entry. But, it then gave us an opportunity to get back on the short side for the ultimate drop down to the 700-1000 region target I “preferred.”

    But, this is a process, and one must approach it like that. I don’t guarantee a movement in a market. EVER!! I will only provide you with what I think the mrket CAN do, and will tell you how to confirm that move, or when to get out because it will likely invalidate. THAT is my job as an analyst and that is what I do for those that follow me.

    If you need more than that, then I suggest you find a direct link to the Man upstairs, because there is nothing definitive in life. As a former tax attorney, we had an old joke: There are only 3 things definite in life . .. 1 – death . . .. 2 – taxes . . . 3 – tax reform. Other than that, we trade probabilities.
    So, if I anyone has felt insulted by what I said or wronged by what I said, I apologize, as it was not meant in that manner. But, to attack me when you do not understand what I do . . . well . . I don’t take kindly to that.

    So, I want to wish you and your families a very happy, healthy and prosperous new year!!!!

    Dec 30, 2015 30:11 PM

    I, for one, appreciate the analysis and enjoy comparing it to my own analysis. I must say that I am really missing “Gary” and hope that he is okay; I am hopeful that he will soon be sharing his thoughts with us again very soon.