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Are the policies of Trump and Clinton really that different?

Big Al
August 12, 2016

Jeff Deist, President of the Mises Institute joins us today to share his thoughts on the differences in policy between between Trump and Clinton. We also chat about how the media presents each candidate.

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    DFS
    Aug 12, 2016 12:54 AM

    The unindicted criminal might face corruption charges at a state level first.
    That’s my hope.
    The DoJ is corrupt to the core, so nothing will happen at the federal level.
    And there’s only so many investigators/witnesses that can be murdered, despite no limitations be evident yet.

    DFS
    Aug 12, 2016 12:56 AM

    The unindicted criminal might face corruption charges at a state level first.
    That’s my hope.
    The DoJ is corruptly politically biased to the core, so nothing will happen at the federal level.
    And there’s only so many investigators/witnesses that can be murdered, despite no limitations being evident yet.

    DFS
    Aug 12, 2016 12:18 AM

    Meanwhile in the South China Seas…..
    Newspapers are fairly silent.

    Recent satellite photographs show China appears to have built reinforced aircraft hangars on its holdings in the disputed South China Sea, according to a Washington-based think tank. Pictures taken in late July show the hangars constructed on Fiery Cross, Subi and Mischief Reefs in the Spratly islands, have room for any fighter jet in the Chinese air force, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS).
    “Except for a brief visit by a military transport plane to Fiery Cross Reef earlier this year, there is no evidence that Beijing has deployed military aircraft to these outposts. But the rapid construction of reinforced hangars at all three features indicates that this is likely to change,” CSIS said in a report.
    China claims most of the South China Sea, through which $5 trillion in ship-borne trade passes every year. The Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei have overlapping claims. (China’s claims actually include some uninhabited Phillipine islands.)
    The images have emerged about a month after an international court in The Hague ruled against China’s sweeping claims in the resource-rich region, a ruling emphatically rejected by Beijing.
    The United States has urged China and other claimants not to militarize their holdings in the South China Sea.

    Ties around the region have been strained in the lead-up to and since The Hague ruling.

    China has sent bombers and fighter jets on combat patrols near the contested South China Sea islands, state media reported on Saturday, and Japan has complained about what it has said were multiple intrusions into its territorial waters around another group of islands in the East China Sea.

    The hangars all show signs of structural strengthening, CSIS said.
    “They are far thicker than you would build for any civilian purpose,” Gregory Poling, director of CSIS’s Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative, told the New York Times, which first reported on the new images. “They’re reinforced to take a strike.

    Obama is playing golf on Martha’s Vinyard, having done his best…..

      Aug 12, 2016 12:25 AM

      Hope he enjoys his last 4 months….70mill per vacation, and saddles the tax payer with another $8-9 trillion in the hole. He needs to go and practice his putt putt golf.

    Aug 12, 2016 12:15 PM

    I think Jeff is right.

    Trump is not going to win. I think there’s a good chance it will be a landslide for Shillary, at least in the Electoral College.

    Even if Trump wins all the states that the Romulan won in 2012 AND he won Florida, Indiana (he should win it with his VP pick) and North Carolina, he’d still lose. And Romulan won both AZ and CO. I don’t see Trump winning both of those states.

      Aug 12, 2016 12:17 PM

      Dang, 8 years of Killary. It’s going to be h@ll.

      Since 1988 all we’ve had are Bushes, Killtons and 8 years of Obammy. No wonder the country is so F’d.

        Aug 12, 2016 12:38 PM

        If Hilly wins,….there will be a run on woman’s trousers, and renovation permits on public rest rooms….

          Aug 12, 2016 12:41 PM

          And Obammycare will be forever or it will sure feel like it…no going back…until the whole house of cards collapses…

            Aug 12, 2016 12:30 PM

            Ebolan,

            Stick a fork in it……….its toast. The best thing you can and should be doing is formulating a plan to side-step the carnage as the collapse becomes more pronounced and becomes too difficult for the msm to hide.

            The first thing that the Maoist freak Hilldabeast will go for is the guns and full blown 3rd world Muslim immigration. That will be the snow flake that starts the avalanche.

            If you don’t already have most of you’re assets internationalized as in right now, I’m afraid you may have missed the boat.

            V

            Aug 12, 2016 12:00 PM

            I think you are right, V.

            In the grand scheme of things this election probably does not matter.

            Even if Trump is not worse than Hillary Killtron, it’s too late. We must endure the greatest debt bubble the world has ever seen.

            A process has been set in motion that can only lead to collapse.

            Aug 12, 2016 12:31 PM

            Ebolan,

            Even if Trump was to be elected, his first day in office he would receive the big secret meeting that all Presidents receive at the beginning of their term. Those terms are not negotiable.

            He would be given his marching orders to change nothing and prosecute no one in the elite class Oligarchs. The slaves/taxing units are the only ones to be prosecuted or held to account. If he failed to comply with his puppet orders, he would be dead with in a month. Simple as that!

            The situation the nation faces today is simply unfixable and the 10,000 or so people who run the country in powerful positions that must be removed, tried, and imprisoned will not be allowed to be imprisoned.

            The greatest nation with the greatest legal contract the world has ever known (Constitution) has been subverted by powerful interests and the most sickening thing about it all is they wrote books and white papers on their blueprint telling everyone exactly how they would do it.

            The curtain is about to be pulled back, with the globalist wizard feverishly pulling the levels to hold the Mushroom cloud blast radius back from a Century of unbridled debt accumulation, corruption and criminality at the highest levels.

            Reversion to the mean cannot be stopped!

            V

      Aug 12, 2016 12:41 PM

      Don’t listen to Jeff,…what does he know

        Aug 12, 2016 12:48 PM

        Unlike Trump and the vast majority of Trump’s fans, Jeff knows economics. 😉

          Aug 12, 2016 12:51 PM

          So does Yellin. 😉

            Aug 12, 2016 12:56 PM

            Nope, Yellin does not.

            Aug 12, 2016 12:03 PM

            U R correct, wrong economics

          Aug 12, 2016 12:16 PM

          Jeff is still a waste of time….jmo

            Aug 12, 2016 12:19 PM

            Just my time,….Jeff is still a good fellow.

            Aug 12, 2016 12:38 PM

            Ok, l broke down and listen to Jeff, he has some valid points.

        Aug 12, 2016 12:50 PM

        I’m no fan of Trump but at least with him there is some chance the dreaded Obammycare could be consigned to the ash heap of history where it belongs and Trump will be less of a neocon than Shillary and also not pick a fight with the Rooskies.

        But I am pessimistic on Trump’s chances but being a grumbletonian I am naturally pessimistic.

          Aug 12, 2016 12:55 PM

          Also, with Hillary you know a big carbon tax is coming one way or another…she’ll just have the EPA ram it down our throats if she can’t get it through Congress.

          Aug 12, 2016 12:00 PM

          Taking my chances,that Trump and Pence do not have perverted minds.

            Aug 12, 2016 12:09 PM

            Trump is a shot in the dark, but Hillary Killtron is a shot to the head.

    Aug 12, 2016 12:54 PM

    Find a good marinade for the crow, Jeff.

      Aug 12, 2016 12:50 PM

      Are the you the new Birdman?
      Insulting people in a “clever” way?
      Please go be miserable someplace else.

    DFS
    Aug 12, 2016 12:07 PM

    The Doc from silverdoctors interviewed by Turd from MfMetalsReport.
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/tfmrmedia/audio/A2AwithTheDoc.mp3

    Aug 12, 2016 12:41 PM

    If you people think that whats http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-11/expert-says-rising-rapes-sweden-due-global-warming-not-soaring-muslim-immigationhappening in the US at the moment is one big joke…
    Then have a read of this……….

    Aug 12, 2016 12:43 PM

    OOOPS…I cocked that up…Sorry

        Aug 12, 2016 12:59 PM

        IrishTony – I love articles that start with lines like this….

        “Want to guess where he places the blame? Well, if you guessed ManBearPig then you’re absolutely right! ”

        …..and then also contain comedic gems like this:

        Providing the perfect reason that absolves the Swedish establishment of all responsibility, Svensson described how “we have been a bit unlucky with the weather this year. Hopefully we will have a colder summer next year and sexual crimes will then be an old memory linked to that one hot Swedish summer. ”

        Yep, it just “one hot Swedish summer” and it is “manbearpig” who should be blamed.

        😮

        Al-Gore on MAN BEAR PIG (Southpark’s twist on his Global Warming witch hunt)

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf69EEL3WBk

          Aug 12, 2016 12:00 PM

          Al Gore on Southpark concerning the Global Warming Attack

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WkjPmGnqns

            Aug 12, 2016 12:15 PM

            Fecking Idiots Running The World…………

            Aug 12, 2016 12:24 PM

            I’m still miffed that you didn’t accept the invitation from Andrew and I to go find $4 – $17 Billion worth of Gold, Silver, and Emeralds off the cost of Colombia (that was mined in Peru) and then sunk on a Spanish galleon.

            We could then afford to pay to put in Big Al as President, Corey s Vice President, Chris Temple as Secretary of State, Rick Ackerman as Secretary of the Treasury, Doc Postma as the head of the FDA, and Bob Moriarty as a Supreme Court Justice.

            What do you say….will you give it another consideration?

            We need your magical leprechaun senses to locate the Silver. If we find that then we likewise find the Gold and Emeralds. This is your chance to change the course of politics forever…..

            Aug 12, 2016 12:28 PM

            Also – LPG can be the ambassador to the UN because he is a man about the world.

            LPG
            Aug 12, 2016 12:44 PM

            Funny one, Shad.
            Best,
            LPG

            Aug 12, 2016 12:47 PM

            🙂

        DFS
        Aug 12, 2016 12:21 PM

        I read report. Borne Svensson, psychotherapist, blames the weather and the victims rather Islamic faith.
        I don’t know what he was smoking, but he is clearly wrong.
        Look not at the statistics with a simple mind.
        Just count the faith of the perps.
        The majority of the rapists are Muslims.
        In proportion to the relative population of Atheists, or humanists or Christians to Muslims, the number of rapes by self- called Muslims is horrendous.
        Their self-named religion IS a problem.
        Obviously not all Muslims are rapists, and perhaps we should not blame all Muslims, but until the rapists go around with an “r” branded on their foreheads, I am going to blame the religion of misogyny, unless it reforms its teachings.
        Sorry Big Al, but my religion is not one that preaches tolerance of bad acts.

          Aug 12, 2016 12:34 PM

          I just might change my religion , move to Sweden , & grope & rape all those blond girls….& if I get caught I will just blame Al Gore. They will give me a slap on the wrist, a house , & lots of money…..& tell me to be a good boy ……….”NUTS”.

            Aug 12, 2016 12:36 PM

            No, IrishT – you’re going to help us find that sunken treasure mentioned above and change the course of history by putting the KER team onto the political stage. (see the invitation above).

    Aug 12, 2016 12:43 PM

    EX….Ok I’m in. LPG as ambassador to the UN !!!!!!
    Surly that would make him the Last Political Gangster. !!!!!

      Aug 12, 2016 12:47 PM

      BTW…We may need an undercover hatchet man….I nominate the BIRD.

      Aug 12, 2016 12:49 PM

      Here is a trip back in time to the original message so you know how this crazy plan hatched:

      —-> On August 2, 2016 at 8:04 pm,
      Excelsior says:

      31 Incredible Facts About Gold
      JEFF DESJARDINS on August 2, 2016

      http://www.visualcapitalist.com/31-incredible-facts-about-gold/

      —- > On August 2, 2016 at 9:13 pm,
      Archdeacon (!) Andrew says:

      Wouldn’t mind getting a hoist on that Spanish galleon Ex!

      —-> On August 2, 2016 at 9:42 pm,
      Excelsior says:

      Yeah…. $4 – $17 Billion in Gold, Silver, and Emeralds from the mines of Peru near Colombia. We just may have to take a field trip to go find that Spanish galleon.

      —-> On August 2, 2016 at 10:09 pm,
      Excelsior says:

      For clarity, the Gold, Silver, and Emeralds are from the mines of Peru, but they are currently near Colombia……just on the bottom of the Ocean……..

      *The field trip will involve wetsuits, oxygen tanks, and we’ll also bring along IrishTony for some Leprechaun luck. He’ll find the Silver, that will lead us to the Gold and Emeralds as well…..

      —-> On August 3, 2016 at 6:27 am,
      Archdeacon (!) Andrew says:

      Count me in Ex!! Can Mr Irish swim?

      —-> On August 3, 2016 at 8:15 am,
      Excelsior says:

      IrishTony is a magical Leprechaun and so he can swim, breathe underwater, and fly if needed.

      — >On August 3, 2016 at 9:58 am,
      Archdeacon (!) Andrew says:

      Please verify Tony!

        Aug 12, 2016 12:53 PM

        *Next there was our second attempt to put together the Avengers of Treasure Hunting:

        —–> On August 4, 2016 at 4:53 pm,
        Excelsior says:

        IrishTony – I am disappointed that you didn’t confirm you would assist Andrew and I in our field trip to go get $4 – $17 Billion worth of Gold, Silver, and Jewels at the bottom of the ocean near Colombia in the Spanish galleon.

        Let me know if you change your mind……

        IrishT – Check out the very bottom of this blog from Tuesday for the invite:

        http://www.kereport.com/2016/08/02/warning-sign-broad-stock-market/

        —> On August 4, 2016 at 7:29 pm,
        Archdeacon (!) Andrew says:

        Ex we’ll keep nagging Mr Irish until we get him on board!!!

        —> On August 5, 2016 at 4:14 am,
        Excelsior says:

        Agreed.

          Aug 12, 2016 12:57 PM

          All the hard work was worth it though, because we finally have IrishT – a superhero with the amazing ability to find Silver……and secretly thwarting to overthrow the status quo.

        Aug 12, 2016 12:56 PM

        That’s funny…I missed it…How the feck did I miss it ?
        I must have been fecking drunk …AGAIN…..Fecking Guinness & Teachers , they’ll be the fecking death of me…..Hick….

          Aug 12, 2016 12:58 PM

          Good reminder. It’s Friday and time for a cold beverage. Have a good weekend sir.

          Cheers!

            Aug 12, 2016 12:04 PM

            May the pub door never hit you on the arse on the way out…Slante.

            Aug 12, 2016 12:06 PM

            That’s kind of you.

          Aug 12, 2016 12:02 PM

          My doctor tells me i’l be dead in a couple of years if I don’t stop smoking 60 cigs a day…I haven’t told him about my boozing…He He…..I don’t want to worry the fella about me boozing.

            Aug 12, 2016 12:05 PM

            You better leave your doctor out of the loop regarding the Unicorn tranquilizer you’ve been freebasing as well then….. Just to be on the safe side….

            Aug 12, 2016 12:30 PM

            IT, I understand you and I like you as do most if not all the posters on this site. DT

    Aug 12, 2016 12:22 PM

    Yeah…you’r right.

    Aug 12, 2016 12:22 PM

    I haven’t read any of the other posts but let me tell you this if you were around in the 1950’s and 60’s politicians would describe themselves as being forthright and honest, when have you heard that for 50 years. I know why but do you! DT

      Aug 12, 2016 12:19 PM

      I haven’t read any of the other posts but let me tell you this…

      Well then, you’re missing out on all the fun, aren’t you. 🙂

    Aug 12, 2016 12:09 PM

    Jeff is a nice Guy & all but this was just tooooo much! Not much difference Jeff? How about three+/- Supreme Court appointments!!! That alone is all you need to know.
    Think I will pass on Jeffery in the futture………………..

    Aug 12, 2016 12:38 PM

    This world has too many people that think just like Jeff Deist. There is nothing unique about his thinking. He fits in with conventional thought. DT