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Does it really matter who is elected today?

Cory
November 8, 2016

As today is election day in America we chat with Chris about the concept that the President does not have the actual influence that most people would think. Whether it’s Clinton or Trump what changes can we reasonably expect and would it even be possible for them to shake up an institution like the Federal Reserve?

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66 Comments
    Nov 08, 2016 08:49 AM

    It always matters.

    Do you really think Jezebel will be good for this country?

    She is a disaster

    Nov 08, 2016 08:17 AM

    So what are your predictions?

    My gut tells me Shillary wins and possibly a blowout at least in the Electoral College and Demonrats win back the Senate.

    You boys ready for 8 years of this?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvfD8eVXYAEGfOs.jpg

    Nov 08, 2016 08:25 AM

    I plan to enjoy Trump’s DOJ put all the Clinton crime family behind bars for 20 years.

    Nov 08, 2016 08:31 AM

    Santa Claus is back in town and should stay till the end of December.

    CFS
    Nov 08, 2016 08:34 AM

    The Don or the Con?

    The Trump or the Frump?

    What a choice! How about “None of the Above?”

    Nov 08, 2016 08:37 AM

    Yes, it does make some difference.

    Just wait until you see Shillary’s SCOTUS picks.

    And even with a split Congress she will just use executive orders to get her way.

    She will ram a carbon tax and global warming non-sense regulations down our throats one way or another through executive orders. She will destroy the energy industry and make energy much more expensive for all of us.

    And of course then there’s Obammycare. She will make an already terrible situation even worse. Guarantee it.

      CFS
      Nov 08, 2016 08:26 AM

      You think anything makes a difference!

      Even rats have enough brain-power to leave a sinking ship, rather than go down with it.

        Nov 08, 2016 08:39 AM

        Trump wasn’t my first, second, third…or one hundredth pick. As I said before he is an unknown but will probably be bad. But Hillary is a known bad. In my opinion Trump probably would not be as bad as Hillary but we will never know as he won’t win.

        It is the old Walter Block argument. You are a slave and you can choose a master who will beat you once a month or once a week.

        But what do I know? Maybe I trade my brain in for a rat brain? 🙂

        Nov 08, 2016 08:44 AM

        Also, just my opinion but I think it is fairly clear Shillary is much more likely to start a war with the Rooskies.

        Nov 08, 2016 08:50 AM

        Also, do you think there is no difference between Hillary and Trump on immigration?

        We know Hillary will flood the country with immigrants, especially those from the Middle East and Africa, not to mention Mexico, Central and South America.

        This will insure Demonrats win elections for the next generation at least.

    PF
    Nov 08, 2016 08:40 AM

    You could make just a good a case that Trump belongs in jail for all the sexual assaults he is probably guilty of.

      Nov 08, 2016 08:51 AM

      Helen, is that you? 🙂

    Nov 08, 2016 08:43 AM

    Who do you trust with the big red button. HIlary or Trump.

    b
    Nov 08, 2016 08:45 AM

    Choosing between the bad choices.
    Personally I doubt Trump assaulted any women, with that kinda cash women fall at a fellows feet.
    Some of these acusers have been shown to be “full of it” as well.

    On the other hand, Clinton is associated with children used for sex.
    Thats kind of abusive Imo.

    Nov 08, 2016 08:53 AM

    If Trump wins. I predict UVXY to soar. The markets to SQQQ, SDOW, SPXS crash -7%, the Dollar to Soar 3-5 cents, Oil to fall below $40, then in Dec the fed reverses directions and OPEC cuts but nothing helps and oil stays low. Russia invades the middle east and all heck starts for 3.5 years.

    He fires Yellen, we see big changes and print money again, dollar falls, Oil soars, Gold soars, the Market soars to all time highs (after the biggest correction). The old usa goes bankrupt and restructures and a new debt free USA comes to pass in 7 years financed by importing cheap oil and exporting oil.

    Hillary wins – Markets do nothing. Gold crashes. Putin makes first move, major bad news. Trump legally challenges results, Hillary never makes it into office before something that has never ever happened happens and whatever it is it will be both weird and unpredictable and historic. Hillary bobble heads are available for Christmas on Amazon for 14.99 and the world goes the way of the bobble head. Earth gets nick named the Bobble head planet by space aliens who decide to move to mars where its warmer and less bobble like.

    Obama imposes financial rules, Clinton is in trouble with investigations and can’t get anything done, Trump exposes more involving the Saudis and America goes into a chapter of alarming uncertainty. Obama stays on for 42 more months, Hillary goes bye bye, Trump moves to Russia to start a chain of Ruble Casinos named after his wives. His wives invent a new shoe with hidden compartments for storing lipstick that tastes like blueberry vodka and its a big hit on Ruble-Azon the russian amazon website.

    We need help. Earth please do something to improve our plight. Peace. Out.

    DC
    Nov 08, 2016 08:05 AM

    Michael Moore 4 min. speech that Big Al mentions. Excellent.
    https://youtu.be/AqHJuRcB-y0

      Nov 08, 2016 08:10 AM

      That video was cut short. Moore actually endorses Hillary.

        CFS
        Nov 08, 2016 08:34 AM

        He was a raving Bernie fan.

        DC
        Nov 08, 2016 08:45 AM

        YES, you’re correct. Here’s a 10 min. interview with him about it. He says people voting for Trump aren’t thinking straight… then admits he’s voting for Clinton and proud to do it. ???? https://youtu.be/soZH_51juro

        As a woman of Hillary’s generation, I find it rich when people start talking about first woman president blah blah blah. In a country where we still have no Equal Rights Amendment and no parody of income except in government positions, that “woman” hasn’t done one damned thing to change that. So, if that crook manages to get in, what the history books will have to report is that after 240 years the best this country could manage for such a long awaited and over due event was to elect an absolute shrike and unrepentant Criminal as their first woman president.

        What an incredible insult to women.

          Nov 08, 2016 08:46 PM

          I am surprised that women aren’t more critical of Hillary and Obama. They have surrounded themselves with women and almost everyone of them in a position of power have turned out either corrupt or incompetent. From Victoria Nuland to Donna Brazile to Loretta Lynch to Huma Abedin to Hillary herself. Even Chelsea Clinton may be implicated.

          If I was a woman, I would be ashamed of the message they are sending. When women just jump to Hillary’s defence and use the woman card, they are looking blindly beyond it all. Is it now OK to be just as bad and just as corrupt as megalomaniac men? This is why I found Helen Worley’s interview on the weekend so awful. It was a perfect example of defending the indefensible.

            Nov 08, 2016 08:15 PM

            Right Paul — and you heard it here!

            I read a good quip the other day…voting for Hillary Clinton just because she’s a woman is like drinking anti-freeze just because it looks like Gatorade.

            Nov 08, 2016 08:33 PM

            Perfect analogy! 😮

      Nov 08, 2016 08:20 AM

      If they’re smart, it will.

      CFS
      Nov 08, 2016 08:22 AM

      And the news from India was posted under Rick Ackerman’s today almost an hour ahead of Zerohedge.

      Kereport was first again!

        Nov 08, 2016 08:55 PM

        KER was first thanks to CFS!

    Nov 08, 2016 08:21 PM

    The buggy boys at our grocery store who are actually middle aged men tell me Hillary is going to win, them and the college grads, I think they must share a brain. At least the buggy boys and the college grads have a part time job, but they don’t understand the issues unless Katy Perry walks in front of them. LOL! DT

    Nov 08, 2016 08:01 PM

    Folks what you’re about to witness is a nightmare with-in a nightmare.

    The ghastly, unbelievable story that is unfolding in the nation is so compelling a science fiction trilogy couldn’t do it justice.

    After a Clinton presidency the country will be totally unrecognizable. The former United States is about to get the most disgusting, deranged, and demonic president in its history, and its exactly what the nation deserves.

    America, give yourself a pat on the back.

      Nov 08, 2016 08:11 PM

      I agree. Nothing good is going to come out of this election, even if Trump wins which ain’t happening.

      The fact is we are a long way from peak gooberment.

      Do you know 80% of local bond and tax increase measures win in presidential election years?

      The sheeple baa and baa for more and more gooberment!

      Nov 08, 2016 08:31 PM

      She is what America deserves.

    Nov 08, 2016 08:42 PM

    Ebolan,

    You have always understood the diabolical nightmarish implications of what was and is unfolding.

    With another Clinton at the helm of an unaccountable bureaucracy literally enshrines in stone a violent, demonic, vile and powerful dictatorship in a sprawling nation that will resemble a vast smoldering crater of a new third-world s**hole of captured slaves, worker-bees and taxing units to maintain the totalitarian rulers opulent and untouchable lifestyle for as far as the eye can see.

    I even think god himself is ready to flush the whole stinking thing.

    As has been said before, after this election you will never be able to vote again and have it count in any meaningful way, even though it really doesn’t now.

    The implementation of the new North American third-world gulag dictatorship is just hours away.

      Nov 08, 2016 08:23 PM

      Your take, as usual, is correct, Vortex

        Nov 08, 2016 08:12 PM

        Vortex was against Trump earlier on. DT

        Nov 08, 2016 08:45 PM

        Chris, you are far too kind. If I had half of you’re smarts and intellect I would be in a good place.

        thank you Chris

        V

    Nov 08, 2016 08:21 PM

    I think if god had anything to do with it, neither candidate would be running. Barney Fife or Elmer Fudd would be a better candidate.

    Nov 08, 2016 08:38 PM

    Not at all – they are both on the same team (they are merely ACTING as though they are enemies, even though they are both new age shills).

    Nov 08, 2016 08:33 PM

    People lie about who they are voting for if you say you are voting for Hillary there are no repercussions but somebody is voting for Trump. I remember when Rob Ford became the mayor of Toronto no one would admit they voted for him, come on people fess up, somebody likes Trump. For the longest time Big Al kept saying that no one liked Trump he even had Cory reiterating his words. The sheep must be lying to the media surely the media isn’t reporting false information. DT

    Nov 08, 2016 08:41 PM

    Hah! It’s a lot tighter than the lamestream media thought it would be.

    Little Chucky Todd is peeing his pants on live tv. That’s entertainment, folks.

    He’s blaming Comey for Hillary not having the cake walk (up to this point) that they all predicted.

      Nov 08, 2016 08:01 PM

      Dang, the lamestream media even dusted off the corpse of Tom Lockjock.

      He’s comparing the market drop now to 9/11. The dumb ass is saying tonight’s is greater not mentioning that percentage wise that is not true at all as the market was about ten thousand points lower back then.

      And Chucky Todd is throwing a tantrum saying the election results should be challenged.

        Nov 08, 2016 08:02 PM

        Wonder if they’ll bring on Brian Williams…

          Nov 08, 2016 08:12 PM

          Dang, the lamestream media is now angry at the Demonrats for not winning in a cake walk. Little Chucky Todd dimissed some of the Demonrat senate candidates as retreads.

          And Andrea Horse Face Greenspan is in shock…

            Nov 08, 2016 08:06 PM

            Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch of Establishment hacks.

            Nov 08, 2016 08:09 PM

            Hah! Now Chucky Todd is going off on the white vote!

            He’s blaming white people for his anger and saying Biden should have run.

            And Demonrats inside Hillary’s election headquarters are crying.

            This is good entertainment, folks.

            Nov 08, 2016 08:11 PM

            And now these hacks are fretting about Obammy’s legacy if Hillary doesn’t win.

            With all the problems this country faces how f’ing absurd is this? But this is what these hacks are talking about.

            Nov 08, 2016 08:22 PM

            Maybe Hillary could go to Saudia Arabia and run for prez 🙂

            Poll: 68 percent of Saudis prefer Hillary Clinton
            https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2016/11/07/Opinion-poll-68-of-Saudis-prefer-Hillary-Clinton.html

            Nov 08, 2016 08:12 PM

            Shillary campaign went dark…no longer responding to the shills in the media…

            Nov 08, 2016 08:18 PM

            Bet Shillary is going ballistic right about now…

            Wonder if she’s calling Brazile a brain dead buffalo again….

            Temper! Temper! Hillary Goes On Rampage For Over An Hour- Throwing Glass at Staffer’s Head

            “You stare at the wall like a brain dead buffalo, while letting fucking Lauer get away with this betrayal? Get the f..,k to work janitoring this mess- do I make myself clear???”

            Hillary’s meltdown included throwing a water glass at a staffer- narrowly missing her head, and demanding Matt Lauer be fired! She was overheard threatening executives at NBC saying “If I lose, we all go down and that Fascist F…k will have us swinging from nooses! What the f…k is wrong with you idiots?”

    Nov 08, 2016 08:43 PM

    You don’t know anything about me or what I am for or against. Hillary is possibly one the most diabolical evil sub-humans every born to this earth.

    Trump for all of his faults is a boy scout compared to that witch. All I, and many others have ever said is Trump will in the end continue most of what has already been put in place because the die is cast.

    But you DT, were too damn busy listening to yourself talk and deciding who had character and who didn’t to hear any other views, after all, you’ve got it all figured out.

    All trump does is buys us time, and there’s very little of that left.

      Nov 08, 2016 08:45 PM

      Vortex you are such a broken clock. DT

    Nov 08, 2016 08:34 PM

    Gold is up $42.40, Trump is good for gold. DT

    Nov 08, 2016 08:45 PM

    Gold is over $1320, nice move but will it hold.

    Nov 08, 2016 08:05 PM

    This is what I posted last night and not one person responded!

    http://www.glenfiddich.com/ca/
    If Clinton wins nothing changes its been the same old tune regarding rates going higher but we all ready know this establishment is protecting the stock market from collapsing. They can’t and will not increase rates ” meaningfully” which means higher inflation=higher cost of living and higher gold prices. Gold will just keep up with higher cost and will be adjusted from time to time.
    On the other hand if trump wins expect some form of accountability and there will be more pain much more pain before things get better. With that I would expect rates to finally start heading were they should have long time ago. At that point money will exit equities market and go into real assets like gold etc. Remember you only need 5% of that money allocation stuck currently in equities, real state etc to really get gold to finally have those $100 dollar day moves. That is coming!
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    Nov 08, 2016 08:17 PM

    To stick w/ my 1969 W.S. analogy, it’s the top of the 9th. . .Davey Johnson is stepping up to the plate. . .

    Nov 08, 2016 08:25 PM

    Jerry Koosman goes into his wind-up. . .

      Nov 08, 2016 08:04 PM

      It’s taking a long time to count Michigan and Pennsylvania, etc.

    Nov 08, 2016 08:07 PM

    Prediction: At some point tomorrow, Doc will announce that he shorted gold near the peak, and Al will ask if “this too shall pass”

    Nov 09, 2016 09:03 AM

    Gold is dropping like a rock.

    When they thought he was going to win it was going through the roof.

    When they knew he won it is sinking like a rock.

    Trump will ultimately be good for stocks and bad for gold, that is my gut feeling

    Nov 09, 2016 09:52 AM

    Hillary 218 EV
    PV 58,879,610
    DJTrump 274 EV
    PV 58,844,024
    191D 235R House
    47D 51R Senate

    Could be worse, now you have a chance to make America great again. Don’t waste it with more of the same PC-NWO BS.

    b
    Nov 09, 2016 09:35 AM

    Thats funny Rand.
    I put a little on a Trump win, gold drops , James you could be right.

    I say “thank goodness”, the Trump win might have kept us from more war.
    Whatever happens, it coulda been worse.

    Nov 09, 2016 09:49 AM

    GIIIINA!!!!