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A Thanksgiving Thought For Metals Investors Who Do Not Appreciate “Alternative” Analysis

Cory
November 22, 2016

There Is No Holy Grail

Let’s start by recognizing that there is absolutely no holy grail to investing or trading. Rather, we only deal in probabilities when working within non-linear markets. To that end, there are a multitude of methodologies that are utilized in the market to gain an edge in placing the greater probabilities on our side.  Yet, most of the market is primarily focused on fundamental analysis, whereas technical analysis is not viewed by most as a primary focus.

Fundamental Analysis For Prognostication

For the last 5 years, I have been writing publicly about my perspective on gold, silver and mining stocks.  And, those that have followed me know that my main thesis about being able to prognosticate the direction of the metals is based upon analyzing market sentiment. While I have not been perfect in my market calls on gold and silver (as that is not humanly possible), I think many will recognize that we have done better than most, and have been on the correct side of the market most of the time through the years, especially after we caught the highs in 2011, the last lows at the end of 2015.

I have also provided you my perspective on attempting to use fundamental analysis in the metals market, and I have cited many reasons supporting my conclusion that it simply does not work.  http://seekingalpha.com/article/4020394-sentiment-speaks-sentiment-trumps-fundamentals-news

Moreover, more and more proponents of fundamental analysis are starting to recognize its deep failures. http://bullion.directory/fundamental-analysis-has-failed/  As an additional example to the article I linked in the prior sentence, in a paper written by Professor Hernan Cortes Douglas, former Luksic Scholar at Harvard University, former Deputy Research Administrator at the World Bank, and former Senior Economist at the IMF, he noted the following regarding those engaged in “fundamental” analysis for predictive purposes:

“The historical data say that they cannot succeed; financial markets never collapse when things look bad. In fact, quite the contrary is true. Before contractions begin, macroeconomic flows always look fine. That is why the vast majority of economists always proclaim the economy to be in excellent health just before it swoons. Despite these failures, indeed despite repeating almost precisely those failures, economists have continued to pore over the same macroeconomic fundamentals for clues to the future. If the conventional macroeconomic approach is useless even in retrospect, if it cannot explain or understand an outcome when we know what it is, has it a prayer of doing so when the goal is assessing the future?”

Understanding Before Forming An Opinion

Now, I would imagine someone with the credentials of Professor Douglas understands economics better than most in the world.  And, I would imagine his opinion is not only steeped in his understanding of economics, but is also based upon his extensive experience, as evidenced by his impressive credentials.  Even though you may disagree with him, you have to recognize that he clearly possesses a deep understanding of the subject matter upon which he opines.  And, if you are wondering, yes, Professor Douglas has been seduced by the “dark side of the market,” and is now a huge proponent of analyzing market sentiment to better understand the directional nature of the market.

We also have a host of fundamental analysts and authors that I have read over the last year or so, who have presented equally strong “feelings” that technical analysis does not work. http://seekingalpha.com/article/4024570-technical-analysis-workhttps://www.streetwisereports.com/pub/na/why-technical-analysis-does-not-work-for-gold-and-silver

I have linked two of those articles in the last sentence.  Anyone who possesses a true understanding of technical analysis will immediately recognize that neither of the TA-bashing authors have anywhere near the depth of knowledge of technical analysis to be able to form an appropriate and informed opinion.

With Professor Douglas’s opinion, one understands there is a depth of knowledge supporting the formation of his opinion.  And, in comparison, it is clear from the articles of the two authors bashing technical analysis that neither have anywhere near the same depth of understanding about technical analysis as compared to the understanding possessed by Professor Douglass in his critical opinion on fundamentals.  In fact, I would suggest they have a very superficial understanding of technical analysis, at best, yet they felt they could provide what they erroneously deemed as “opinion.”

I think Andrew McElroy (a fellow contributor at Seeking Alpha) put it well in his response to one of the articles:

“For anyone to claim TA doesn’t work based on some guys getting some calls wrong is like saying the practice of medicine doesn’t work because your neighbor read a book on brain surgery and can’t seem to carry out a decent operation without killing someone.”

I think Andrew raises the question each and every one of us should ask about any opinion we see on the market:

How can someone even begin to opine about that which they know very little?  How reliable of an opinion do you think they are presenting with their very limited knowledge of the subject matter upon which they are attempting to opine? 

As Alexander Pope stated:

A little learning is a dangerous thing; 

drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: 

there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, 

and drinking largely sobers us again.

The age of the internet has caused an explosion of knowledge available at our finger tips.  Yet, at the same time, it has caused an even greater explosion in the propagation of fallacy.  One must be able to appropriately discern between the knowledge and fallacy before coming to a conclusion.

Sadly, most in the financial markets do not engage in the depth of thought one requires to come to such a conclusion.  As Albert Einstein once said:

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.” 

Rather, the great majority of people are too willing to accept the news of the day to sway their perspective.  Unfortunately, it is a very superficial way to approach markets as the news of the day is too fleeting a basis upon which one should draw a conclusion. Too many are willing to accept the common “market-think” when they place their money into the market, and all too often, it is based upon such superficial analysis. So, have you ever wondered why so many lose money in the market?

I will leave you with a quote from Isaac Asimov to ponder during the upcoming holiday week:

“Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won’t come in.”  

I want to wish you all a very happy and healthy upcoming Thanksgiving holiday.  Please make the effort to appreciate, enjoy and cherish every moment you have with your family, because we truly do not know how much more time we have been granted to spend with them.

Avi Gilburt is a widely followed Elliott Wave technical analyst and author of ElliottWaveTrader.net (www.elliottwavetrader.net), a live Trading Room featuring his intraday market analysis (including emini S&P 500, metals, oil, USD & VXX), interactive member-analyst forum, and detailed library of Elliott Wave education.

Discussion
34 Comments
    Nov 22, 2016 22:00 AM

    What a snore fest…..

      Nov 22, 2016 22:04 AM

      This will wake some of you up…and not a single metals pumper/shill or charlstan can see it coming….because gold/silver ALWAYS needs to be higher then what the market reality has been…lower.

      “Potential gold-import ban by India could be biggest bombshell since Nixon”

      http://www.marketwatch.com/story/potential-gold-import

        GH
        Nov 22, 2016 22:00 PM

        Do any of you smart guys out there give this any creedence? It’s a bit hard for me to assess.

        I doubt it can be so easy to do away with the black market economy as eliminating big bills. I also doubt they can really dent Indians’ affinity for gold. If I were one of them, it would make me want gold all the more. But this is just my ill-informed speculation.

          Nov 22, 2016 22:00 PM

          GH:

          Governments want to believe they are all powerful yet we recognize that they are run by a bunch of fools who put their pants on one leg at a time and only think they are omniscient. In fact we eventually learn that the brightest of them are generally fools.

          If you believe the brain dead idiot who managed to be elected Prime Minister of India can actually ban gold, go down to the ocean with a bunch of buckets and work out the math of how many people and how many buckets you would need to stop the tide. Then do the math of how aircraft flying to India from all over the world can get airborne while 20% over max gross weight.

          There is demand for gold that will be constant no matter what stupidity the government tries. India provides a lot of demand for gold but does not dictate the price.

          The Prime Minister just yanked a rug out from underneath both the black market and the general market in India by his irrational action in making their large currency bills illegal. Look for a plunge in their GDP as a result. Actions have consequences.

        GH
        Nov 22, 2016 22:06 PM

        DPH – I know you like to hound Turd, but I don’t really know your perspective.

        Have you ever been bullish on gold? Are you short-term bearish now, or all-around bearish?

          Nov 22, 2016 22:31 PM

          Yep, most definitelty.
          When the 2007 financial crisis hit and the upcoming contentious 2008 election was getting closer the metals plummeting caught my attention.
          Despite the turmoil underway they should’ve been going up imho.
          When gold double tapped $1000 and sank to $850 around that same period (and silver hit $10 and subsequently blew past $15 fairly quickly in that same time period) you couldn’t help but notice and get on board.
          It reeked of opportunity.

          I’ve been “short term” bearish since $1600 and $30 we’re easily and fairly quickly taken down from their highs of $1900 and $48.

          I’ve been saying it for quite awhile that the demise of the USD was greatly overblown/hyped by some and it never came close to reality. In fact, there’s an actual physical shortage of USD worldwide.

          I’ll get bullish once again when sub- $900 gets breached. I’ve been saying that for awhile also. It’ll take some unseen or unknown event that I believe will be a return to some form of a gold backed ( actually implied, not physical) bond by either the US or China.

          But much pain will be necessary for such a move to be necessary because of crazy currency moves due to the Euro and Yen disintegrating.
          All of this is currently underway and inevitable.

          As far as Turd goes I’ve made my point on here. Those who want to almost diefy a person for being chronically wrong because he’ll go on weird rants about all kinds of stuff are free to keep getting their ass handed to them despite the clear trends that have and are taking place.

          The whole manipulation thing is a flimsy/pumpers reason to excuse themselves for their continued wrongness.
          Does manipulation or extreme leveragung of markets happen by big money and trading algorithims?

          Heck yeah! Fairness of said practices is irrelevant because if truth be told (what a concept) guys like Turd and other pumpers/shills would have no problem whatsoever if the market was manipulated/leveraged higher to $1900 and $48 (and it was leveraged/pumped higher but no one saw it that way back then) or if they could somehow leverage or manipulate they’d be completely fine with it.

          But reality (and big round numbers of resistance) overtook the pumpers fantasyworld that Turd tries obsessively to keep alive.

          It’s not working and the pulse is weakening because of ansurd and delusional crap like this below and the blatant falsehood of some silly HEH/Maguire nonsense he admittedly made up and then deleted from his site.

          I used to be a moderator over there and I could go on but I won’t.
          The sites imploding under the weight of Turd’s BS and the negative feedback loop that crushed the site that he’s apparently still unaware of.

          Ignorance is BLISS.

          http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/comment/170246#comment-170246

          Where is the accountability for countless blown predictions over the years?
          It’s right here…
          http://www.pmaccountability.com/
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          Carl Sagan

    Nov 22, 2016 22:01 AM

    Jesus: “Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.” John 6:27.

    CFS
    Nov 22, 2016 22:20 AM

    The danger lies in not knowing what you don’t know…..

    Gary Savage, with the proviso from me,that gold and silver don’t always behave like commodities.

    https://blog.smartmoneytrackerpremium.com/

      Nov 22, 2016 22:25 AM

      Sentiment Speaks: Is Gold Telling Us We Will See A Clinton Coup?
      Nov. 18, 2016 8:36 AM ET

      – Avi Gilburt (9,765 followers on Seeking Alpha)

      http://seekingalpha.com/article/4024564-sentiment-speaks-gold-telling-us-will-see-clinton-coup

        GH
        Nov 22, 2016 22:41 AM

        Balderdash.

        But I suppose his point is, don’t assume you KNOW anything, a la Mr Moriarty.

          Nov 23, 2016 23:18 AM

          I think Avi’s point was that since things didn’t work out as so many investors were just sure would happen if a Clinton versus Trump win happened on election night to the markets and Gold price, that he was being sarcastic about the markets pricing in a Clinton coup. Yes, I think his point was “Nobody knows anything” as Bob M’s book states.

    Nov 22, 2016 22:47 AM

    Anyone who voted for Trump out to be barfing right about now…

    President-elect Donald Trump won’t subject Hillary Clinton to a criminal inquiry — instead, he’ll help her heal, his spokeswoman said Tuesday.

    Yup, the criminal Clintons will get off the hook and keep the hundreds of millions they acquired through criminal activities.

    Just proves that in Amerika the laws only apply to the peasants.

      GH
      Nov 22, 2016 22:46 AM

      What a shock…not.

      I still think it’s worthwhile spreading the info about all of her crimes and keeping the heat on.

      Nov 22, 2016 22:03 PM

      I prefer Trump’s sheeple to Hillary’s by a very wide margin, but they are still sheeple.

        Nov 22, 2016 22:13 PM

        Does Mr. Big Al Korelin regret writing that check to the Trump campaign?

        I wonder if he things he could have spent his $500 better.

    b
    Nov 22, 2016 22:20 AM

    Help her heal? lol unreal.

    I think we now have, just in case anyone wasnt sure, pretty much all the evidence required to show that the pres is a puppet. Just part of the show.

    If any kind of change is wanted, the only way is to create the list of all the warmongers.pedophiles etc and shoot them on sight.

    If the people refuse to do that, the agenda 21 will happen.
    There is enough info available now, that if these people are not stopped, the people have decided to go along with it.

    Indecision is a decision, wishy washy dont count.

    Personally, I think people will continue to be absorbed enough with themselves to allow the “elite” to do exactly as they plan.

    Who knows, maybe its for the best.

      Nov 22, 2016 22:14 AM

      The whole thing makes me sick.

      To think that Hillbillary will keep the hundreds of millions they pilfered through that fraudulent “charitable” organization.

      Just proves this country is corrupt beyond all hope.

        b
        Nov 22, 2016 22:45 AM

        Of course she will keep it all, who is gonna take it from here?
        Simple, the elites are the rulers,owners as George Carlin said, this is nothing new.
        Monarchy is far more honust.

        Negative interest rates come to Canada, BMO begins it with foreigners accounts.
        Canadians wont mind that. lol

    Nov 22, 2016 22:43 AM

    Technical analysis is meaningless in a manipulated market. Manipulated with official government-sponsored programs.

    The only thing to understand is that this is the Christmas bonus season. And the financial district is going to get their bonuses, even if they have to drive the DJIA to 20,000 in the next week, or the S&P500 to 2,750 – whatever it takes. Once their bonuses are locked in, the financial district goes on vacation at the Hamptons and doesn’t worry about the markets until mid-January, when the Christmas bills come due.

    Making sure gold and silver end “lower” for the 2016 year is part of that strategy.

      Nov 22, 2016 22:33 AM

      Just who are…”they”?

      The invisible hand(s) or market trading algorithims who keep foiling the ‘bugs doomer fantasy vision of the future that they seem to think guarantees that gold/silver will still be allowed to be held privately during a global economic crisis of the magnitude that the doomer fantasy envisions?

      See my comment/link above.

        b
        Nov 22, 2016 22:55 AM

        Rickards says he knows who “they” are, he names a few in interviews.
        Unless he is a “they” and is misdirecting.

        Nov 22, 2016 22:01 PM

        DPH, you apparently do not see the damage caused by the much more powerful “pumpers, shills and charlatans.”

        A “doomer” reality, not fantasy, has been unfolding for a long time but sheeple (including most goldbugs, ironically) don’t notice it.

        Funny stuff.

          Nov 22, 2016 22:33 PM

          People have been fearful and moaning about the Fed since it’s inception and we’re still standing despite the numerous decades long warnings and hysteria from those “helpful” pundits and bloggers who are looking out for “our” best interests. Yeah right.

          Do people realize that some of those old timers who we once read and who warned of such dire things long, long ago are dying off in front of our eye’s without having realized their doomer scenario play out like they thought would “pay off” for them and that they spent decades waiting for it to happen?

          When I read the same people year after year saying the same things (or different one’s because their other BS didn’t come close) and use terms such as “anyday now or very soon because they can’t keep this up forever” I honestly wonder st times if they’re not merely projecting their own anxiety over being able to keep up the charade for much longer.
          There’s a lesson there that shouldn’t be dismissed so easily.

          The gaslighting techniques that some use in their own defense of their blown fake analysis is fascinating in it’s own right.
          Kind of like the CNN coverage of Hillary…the twisting of narratives and predictions to hopefully cloud viewers minds to alternative thinking and reasonable conclusions and seeing through it all.
          Some folks are incapable of it. Hence the Carl Sagan quote I posted earlier.

            GH
            Nov 22, 2016 22:29 PM

            Gaslighting, great word!

            But your argument, distilled down, seems to amount to ‘The Fed chickens haven’t come home to roost yet, so give us a break!’

            I have a hard time believing debt can grow exponentially forever. I interpret the insanity we’re witnessing on all sides as a sign it’s reaching its limits.

            GH
            Nov 22, 2016 22:31 PM

            But I guess you just expect the shakeout to be more severe than most people do, followed by a renewed bull market?

    Nov 22, 2016 22:36 AM

    Sniff this out! ASM is down about 22% today due to some warrant issued! Put this ATM stock on your watch list. I have netted 21, 17, and 9% profits this year on ASM.

    Nov 22, 2016 22:20 AM

    Are Trump regreters starting to show up ?? Thank goodness my Hecla stock has started to recover . New higher price for copper will have positive impact. I do expect a strong move into silver and gold at some point in 17. best of health and wealth to you all S

    Nov 23, 2016 23:36 AM

    All this speculation about whether pms market will resume their bull market or start a new bull market (whichever way you like to view the past 4 years) begs the question, what was so different in 2010-11 that allowed gold and silver such an unchallenged run?

      Nov 23, 2016 23:27 AM

      There was a genuine fear of things imploding due to inflation from all the money printing, and of Greece taking down Europe, and of Libya and Egypt creating a powder keg in the Middle East at that time. Since the inflation never game, Europe kicked the can down the road, the middle east didn’t erupt into WW3, and the US government kept raising the debt ceiling and the status quo……. Then the 4 1/2 year cyclical bear market transpired starting in late 2011.

      Now for the first time in a long while, the prospect of some inflation hitting the US consumers (instead of the inflation being contained to just the stock markets) is a more real possibility. However, with the dollar so strong and commodities getting crushed again today, the deflationists are probably having an “I told you so” day. 🙂

    Nov 23, 2016 23:40 PM

    These are all valid points excelsior however, one might suggest that those issues are still present. Perhaps now, the narrative at present has forced people to forget these problems. In regards to Europe imploding, wouldnt that cause a rush out of the euro and into the us $, thus putting downward pressure on pms? All that printed money is still available too. With the major banks tying it off into other assets and not allowing it to filter down into Main St, they have dodged the inflation outcome for the moment. Will they not unwind those mass amounts of QE tied assets eventually?