Trump’s policies and moves while in office
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- Politics Segment 1: Jeff Deist the director of the Mises institute opines on the Syrian missile situation.
- Politics Segment 2: Chris Temple addresses the topic of a debt jubilee.
- Politics Segment 3: Big Al discusses the Syrian missile situation With Doc.
- Politics Segment 4: Will the Neocon Policies of the past continue under President Trump. Jim McKinney and Big Al tackle this topic.
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Thank you Chris for talking on the subject
ISIS…..was it original name ISIL?
No the original name was ISIS, but yourfavorite President, Obamy, insisted on ISIL.
(Since he is a muslim that wants Islam to conquer the Levant again.)
insert “sympathizer” after muslim above…… my fingers do not always type as intended.
Anything is possible, Professor
Good one Professor…….”my favorite President”… Thanks for the clarification on ISIS and ISIL…..
CFS…..what do think of what Chris said …..On the JUBLIEE
Re: JUBILEE.
In a society that is increasingly managed by debt, I do not see how a debt Jubilee could be possible without a revolt of the general populace.
I assume a “Jubilee” would apply to cause essentially a cancellation or partial cancellation of Government debt specifically.
Lets assume, for example, the simplest Jubilee:
e.g. Assume, not that the Government declares any Government bonds worthless, but simply states that it is going to stop paying interest on all bonds longer than some duration for a period of unspecified time, because of financial difficulty.
Apart from the fact that Federal courts would be swamped, consider the effect immediately on issuance of new bonds.
Do you seriously think anyone would buy new issuances?
Now consider the old bonds that are no longer paying interest….
Who holds these bonds? Pension funds, corporations, the general public, etc.
Many people rely on that income. Do you seriously think there will not be a general reaction? Do you think people will just accept it?
E.G. Take CALPERS, the US’s biggest pension fund. It relies on interest from bonds to pay out pensions to retired California public employees. It already has a problem arising from low interest rates. Now it would find it does not have enough income to meet pension payments. Could it sell bonds that paid no interest to make up the shortfall? I doubt it; who would buy?
And this is only the simplest subset of a Jubilee.
I don’t think it would take very long after a Jubilee, that the US would look like Venezuela on steroids.
I see the US just printing and printing, not rocking the boat.
Just issuing more and more debt, and slowly, HAVING, to raise interest rates, not out of choice, but because fewer and fewer sources coose to purchase Government debt at prevailing rates.
To some extent there has been international collusion and the US currently does have good collateral because other countries are in worse shape.
But the Federal Reserve does have almost $ 4 Trillion of US debt on its books.
It has that, presumably, because there were not buyers for $ 4 Triilion at the current interest rates.
CFS……thanks for the reply….Regarding the DEBT forgiveness Program…..JUBILEE
CFS,
Chris Temple pointed out, that the banks don’t loan their depositors money. So..if they don’t loan their money, where does it come from and who actually loaned it? And if it is nothing but “fiat or fiction”, how could it be real? ( unless you “believe” it’s real)
There is real debt that will always be with pension funds and other bonds or notes of that type. And there is debt that is completely false, fake, and discharge capable. In fact, how do you think discharges or chapter 7s happen? The debt gets wiped away, because it was never real to begin with. ( true story, if you understand finance)
It has zero to do with fractional reserve banking.
Bonds are bondage……….I fail to see where that is not understandable. I like the example of California Calipers, where they feel they can afford to pay a retired State Trooper $100,000 in retirement pay.
A retired teacher, has no excuse as to understand bondage, after all they are educated by the best Universities….They should understand math,….I am concerned that logic has not been taught for decades.
Be ye not lukewarm…..Revelations 3:15
unless your putting small children in a bath.
Matthew 18:3
Truly I tell you, unless you change and become as little children , ye will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
yup. Ive always got kind of a giggle over that one.
no offence intended.
My daughter gave the kids a bath the day you posted that, one of em was squakin it was hot. course, it was lukewarm.
No offence taken……… 🙂
Chris is definitely one of my heros!
Not necessarily against the 59 missile strike in Syria if it is done for the right reasons. But, don’t think Trump properly articulated reasons for the strike either before or after it occurred. Trump rhetoric is more of a President who wants to go to war. Trump has given the reins of whether to attack to the generals, and the generals are more likely to go to war. They have a hammer and the only thing they see are nails.
Trump may a speech after the missile strike “explaining” the reason was that the US would not accept the use of chemical weapons by Assad and the Syrian Goverment in contravention to UN rules. This was also repeated by Press Secretary Spicer several times.
“may” should have been “made”
US unlikely to have been behind botched North Korean missile launch
Experts say the United States is unlikely to have been behind North Korea’s botched missile launch last week, despite rampant speculation that the explosion was the result of an Obama-era cyber sabotage program.
The spectre of U.S. interference in the secretive missile program has shaken North Korea’s young leader, Kim Jong Un, and reportedly led to a fierce internal spyhunt.
I have to agree with Mr. Chertoff as mention toward the end of that article, Markedtofuture. Thanks for this article, my friend.
“Experts say” = some unknown propagandist says or = some idiot reporter says…
Did you not read the latest wikileaks?
Has Wikileaks ever released anything not later proven to be true?
Maybe sometime they will be given false information, but not so far.
‘Money’ is also often augmented by productive wealth creation.
Significantly increasing the interest “tax” on money beyond the wealth creation factor eventually results in “odious debt” which cannot be repaid, but must be resolved.
“Jubilee” is one solution to the problem.
Ezra Pound on Usury in Canto XLV:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn6r2Nm0ZMo
Re. Seg 4.
I believe the U.S. did not find Chemical or Biological weapons in Iraq was because at the start of Desert 1, Sadam shipped most out in a convoy of trucks to Syria.
I vividly remember watching the US NOT attack that convoy of trucks.
i don’t remember that, not saying you are wrong. just don’t remember
I don’t know how much of this page is accessible without contribution to FP (Foreign Policy) (I am a subscriber and will reproduce limited paragraphs if asked)
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(Sorry for the redactions, but some names have to remain unknown)
In the documents, the CIA noted that the Soviet Union had previously used chemical agents in Afghanistan and suffered few repercussions.
It has been previously reported that the United States provided tactical intelligence to Iraq at the same time that officials suspected Hussein would use chemical weapons. But the CIA documents, which sat almost entirely unnoticed in a trove of declassified material at the National Archives in College Park, Md., combined with exclusive interviews with former intelligence officials, reveal new details about the depth of the United States’ knowledge of how and when Iraq employed the deadly agents. They show that senior U.S. officials were being regularly informed about the scale of the nerve gas attacks. They are tantamount to an official American admission of complicity in some of the most gruesome chemical weapons attacks ever launched.
Top CIA officials, including the Director of Central Intelligence William J. Casey, a close friend of President Ronald Reagan, were told about the location of Iraqi chemical weapons assembly plants; that Iraq was desperately trying to make enough mustard agent to keep up with frontline demand from its forces; that Iraq was about to buy equipment from Italy to help speed up production of chemical-packed artillery rounds and bombs; and that Iraq could also use nerve agents on Iranian troops and possibly civilians.
Officials were also warned that Iran might launch retaliatory attacks against U.S. interests in the Middle East, including terrorist strikes, if it believed the United States was complicit in Iraq’s chemical warfare campaign.
“As Iraqi attacks continue and intensify the chances increase that Iranian forces will acquire a shell containing mustard agent with Iraqi markings,” the CIA reported in a top secret document in November 1983. “Tehran would take such evidence to the U.N. and charge U.S. complicity in violating international law.”
At the time, the military attaché’s office was following Iraqi preparations for the offensive using satellite reconnaissance imagery, Francona told Foreign Policy. According to a former CIA official, the images showed Iraqi movements of chemical materials to artillery batteries opposite Iranian positions prior to each offensive.
Francona, an experienced Middle East hand and Arabic linguist who served in the National Security Agency and the Defense Intelligence Agency, said he first became aware of Iraq’s use of chemical weapons against Iran in 1984, while serving as air attaché in Amman, Jordan. The information he saw clearly showed that the Iraqis had used Tabun nerve agent (also known as “GA”) against Iranian forces in southern Iraq.
The declassified CIA documents show that Casey and other top officials were repeatedly informed about Iraq’s chemical attacks and its plans for launching more. “If the Iraqis produce or acquire large new supplies of mustard agent, they almost certainly would use it against Iranian troops and towns near the border,” the CIA said in a top secret document.
But it was the express policy of Reagan to ensure an Iraqi victory in the war, whatever the cost.
The CIA noted in one document that the use of nerve agent “could have a significant impact on Iran’s human wave tactics, forcing Iran to give up that strategy.” Those tactics, which involved Iranian forces swarming against conventionally armed Iraqi positions, had proved decisive in some battles. In March 1984, the CIA reported that Iraq had “begun using nerve agents on the Al Basrah front and likely will be able to employ it in militarily significant quantities by late this fall.”
The use of chemical weapons in war is banned under the Geneva Protocol of 1925, which states that parties “will exert every effort to induce other States to accede to the” agreement. Iraq never ratified the protocol; the United States did in 1975. The Chemical Weapons Convention, which bans the production and use of such arms, wasn’t passed until 1997, years after the incidents in question.
The initial wave of Iraqi attacks, in 1983, used mustard agent. While generally not fatal, mustard causes severe blistering of the skin and mucus membranes, which can lead to potentially fatal infections, and can cause blindness and upper respiratory disease, while increasing the risk of cancer. The United States wasn’t yet providing battlefield intelligence to Iraq when mustard was used. But it also did nothing to assist Iran in its attempts to bring proof of illegal Iraqi chemical attacks to light. Nor did the administration inform the United Nations. The CIA determined that Iran had the capability to bomb the weapons assembly facilities, if only it could find them. The CIA believed it knew the locations.
Hard evidence of the Iraqi chemical attacks came to light in 1984. But that did little to deter Hussein from using the lethal agents, including in strikes against his own people. For as much as the CIA knew about Hussein’s use of chemical weapons, officials resisted providing Iraq with intelligence throughout much of the war. The Defense Department had proposed an intelligence-sharing program with the Iraqis in 1986. But according to Francona, it was nixed because the CIA and the State Department viewed Saddam Hussein as “anathema” and his officials as “thugs.”
The situation changed in 1987. CIA reconnaissance satellites picked up clear indications that the Iranians were concentrating large numbers of troops and equipment east of the city of Basrah, according to Francona, who was then serving with the Defense Intelligence Agency. What concerned DIA analysts the most was that the satellite imagery showed that the Iranians had discovered a gaping hole in the Iraqi lines southeast of Basrah. The seam had opened up at the junction between the Iraqi III Corps, deployed east of the city, and the Iraqi VII Corps, which was deployed to the southeast of the city in and around the hotly contested Fao Peninsula.
The satellites detected Iranian engineering and bridging units being secretly moved to deployment areas opposite the gap in the Iraqi lines, indicating that this was going to be where the main force of the annual Iranian spring offensive was going to fall, Francona said.
In late 1987, the DIA analysts in Francona’s shop in Washington wrote a Top Secret Codeword report partially entitled “At The Gates of Basrah,” warning that the Iranian 1988 spring offensive was going to be bigger than all previous spring offensives, and this offensive stood a very good chance of breaking through the Iraqi lines and capturing Basrah. The report warned that if Basrah fell, the Iraqi military would collapse and Iran would win the war.
President Reagan read the report and, according to Francona, wrote a note in the margin addressed to Secretary of Defense Frank C. Carlucci: “An Iranian victory is unacceptable.”
Subsequently, a decision was made at the top level of the U.S. government (almost certainly requiring the approval of the National Security Council and the CIA). The DIA was authorized to give the Iraqi intelligence services as much detailed information as was available about the deployments and movements of all Iranian combat units. That included satellite imagery and perhaps some sanitized electronic intelligence. There was a particular focus on the area east of the city of Basrah where the DIA was convinced the next big Iranian offensive would come. The agency also provided data on the locations of key Iranian logistics facilities, and the strength and capabilities of the Iranian air force and air defense system. Francona described much of the information as “targeting packages” suitable for use by the Iraqi air force to destroy these targets.
The sarin attacks then followed.
The nerve agent causes dizziness, respiratory distress, and muscle convulsions, and can lead to death. CIA analysts could not precisely determine the Iranian casualty figures because they lacked access to Iranian officials and documents. But the agency gauged the number of dead as somewhere between “hundreds” and “thousands” in each of the four cases where chemical weapons were used prior to a military offensive. According to the CIA, two-thirds of all chemical weapons ever used by Iraq during its war with Iran were fired or dropped in the last 18 months of the war.
By 1988, U.S. intelligence was flowing freely to Hussein’s military. That March, Iraq launched a nerve gas attack on the Kurdish village of Halabja in northern Iraq.
A month later, the Iraqis used aerial bombs and artillery shells filled with sarin against Iranian troop concentrations on the Fao Peninsula southeast of Basrah, helping the Iraqi forces win a major victory and recapture the entire peninsula. The success of the Fao Peninsula offensive also prevented the Iranians from launching their much-anticipated offensive to capture Basrah. According to Francona, Washington was very pleased with the result because the Iranians never got a chance to launch their offensive.
The level of insight into Iraq’s chemical weapons program stands in marked contrast to the flawed assessments, provided by the CIA and other intelligence agencies about Iraq’s program prior to the United States’ invasion in 2003. Back then, American intelligence had better access to the region and could send officials out to assess the damage.
Francona visited the Fao Peninsula shortly after it had been captured by the Iraqis. He found the battlefield littered with hundreds of used injectors once filled with atropine, the drug commonly used to treat sarin’s lethal effects. Francona scooped up a few of the injectors and brought them back to Baghdad — proof that the Iraqis had used sarin on the Fao Peninsula.
In the ensuing months, Francona reported, the Iraqis used sarin in massive quantities three more times in conjunction with massed artillery fire and smoke to disguise the use of nerve agents. Each offensive was hugely successful, in large part because of the increasingly sophisticated use of mass quantities of nerve agents. The last of these attacks, called the Blessed Ramadan Offensive, was launched by the Iraqis in April 1988 and involved the largest use of sarin nerve agent employed by the Iraqis to date. For a quarter-century, no chemical attack came close to the scale of Saddam’s unconventional assaults. Until, perhaps, the strikes last week outside of Damascus.
Thanks for these links CFS.
My simpleminded view on chemical weapons in Iraq:
1. UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter made a forceful and persuasive case that Iraq could no longer have any significant chemical weapon capacity in the months leading up to the 2003 US war on Iraq.
2. The US never was able to provide any convincing evidence that Saddam still had WMD in spite of having powerful motivation to do so.
3. There are still those who claim that Saddam DID have WMD, but was successful in spiriting them away, to Syria or elsewhere. So far I have not seen any conclusive evidence for this argument.
So, while there is always room for doubt, and we should always be open to reassessing our conclusions based on new evidence: being simpleminded, I still believe there was no significant WMD capability, and furthermore that, regardless of the WMD question, the US had other motives for the war.
Here is the chronology according to CNN:
November 8, 2002 – The UN Security Council passes Resolution 1441.
November 13, 2002 – Iraq delivers a letter to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, accepting the terms set forth in resolution 1441.
November 27, 2002 – Inspections resume in Iraq.
December 7, 2002 – Iraq submits a 12,000-page report on its WMD programs.
January 16, 2003 – Inspectors discover 12 chemical warheads, 11 of them empty, at the Ukhaider ammunition storage area.
January 20, 2003 – After two days of negotiation, Hans Blix, Mohamed ElBaradei, and Iraqi officials reach an agreement about Iraqi cooperation and concessions regarding the inspections.
February 5, 2003 – Secretary of State Colin Powell briefs the UN Security Council on inspections. He presents evidence that the United States says proves Iraq has misled inspectors and hid proscribed weapons and equipment.
February 14, 2003 – Blix and ElBaradei brief the UN Security Council. Blix reports that the inspectors have not yet found any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Blix also reports that Iraq is in violation of UN resolutions concerning its al Samoud 2 missile program.
February 19, 2003 – Inspectors visit the Ibn al Haytham factory northwest of Baghdad and tag 32 al Samoud II missiles.
February 27, 2003 – Iraq agrees to destroy the country’s al Samoud II missile stock. However, the letter doesn’t specify a date that the missile destruction will begin.
March 10, 2003 – It is revealed that Iraq possesses drone aircraft that could have been used to launch a chemical or biological attack against other countries. The plane has a wingspan of 24 feet five inches, which suggests that it could fly further than 150km/93 miles, which is the limit imposed by UN resolutions.
March 18, 2003 – Inspectors withdraw from Iraq.
March 20, 2003 – (local time) US and coalition forces begin military action against Iraq.
October 2, 2003 – David Kay, who heads the US search, reports to intelligence committees for both the House and Senate that the Iraq Survey Group has found no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Kay says he will need six to nine months to conclude his work.
January 28, 2004 – After retiring earlier in the month, David Kay tells the Senate Armed Services Committee that there should be an independent investigation into the flawed intelligence about Saddam Hussein’s weapons capability.
February 6, 2004 – President George W. Bush names a seven-member commission to investigate the nation’s intelligence operations, specifically to study the information about Iraq possessing weapons of mass destruction.
October 6, 2004 – The final Iraq Survey Group report is released. The report concludes that Saddam Hussein did not possess weapons of mass destruction.
March 2005 – The Special Advisor to the Director of the CIA issues addendums to the Iraq Survey Group Comprehensive Report after additional investigations and intelligence.
March 31, 2005 – The Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction reports that the intelligence community was “dead wrong” in its assessments of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction capabilities before the US invasion.
December 2005 – US inspectors end their search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
June 29, 2007 – The UN Security Council adopts resolution 1762, terminating the United Nations Monitoring Verification and Inspection Commission’s (UNMOVIC) mandate.
If you carefully read everything above there is a bit of room for doubt.
More on this subject form Professor Little this coming week, BC!
“Total Chaos” – Cyber Attack Feared As Multiple Cities Hit With Simultaneous Power Grid Failures
The U.S. power grid appears to have been hit with multiple power outages affecting San Francisco, New York and Los Angeles.
Interesting in the sense that I had to actually google this event rather than see it anyplace other that Zero Hedge.
The fact that I had to do that is concerting to me.
Not even on Drudge. I was very busy editing until 5 p.m. on Friday and was away from the news.
What do you made of the Markdtofuture?
Big Al, You obviously don’t read all your blogs, since I reported it yesterday, before this specific blog was posted this morning.
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On April 21, 2017 at 5:25 pm,
CFS says:
I just don’t believe the audacity of lies of main stream media.
Paris was not a terrorist attack. Yes it was,LYING MSM.
Electrical failures in San Fancisco, New York and Los Angeles is just aging infrastructure; nothing to see here. The odds of simultaneous failures by mere coincidence tell me you LIE, MSM.
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Paul Craig Roberts has come up with another brilliant article on his view of what is happening.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/04/19/oklahoma-city-bombing-22-years/
I find Al’s claim to need “proof” very strange. We make decisions all the time based on incomplete information just using facts and logic. Neither the facts nor the logic support the government’s claims that Assad was behind the chemical attack. Even the UN says it is inconclusive yet Al has staked his claim on an illogical conclusion that is not supported by any facts, only claims by the government.
I was in the Marines from 1964 until 1970 and in Vietnam from July of 1968 until March of 1970. During this period the draft dodgers and people protesting the war made claims and the US government made counter claims. After the dust settled and facts became obvious, 100% of what the draft dodgers said proved to be true and 100% of what the government claimed proved to be false.
I take 100% of what the government says with a giant grain of salt. They lied us into every war we have ever fought and today is no different.
Yesterday, I spent pretty much all morning and then from one p.m. until five p.m. editing and recording.
I talked with a friend in Sacramento a few minutes ago and he said that it was reported certainly in California.
I do try to keep up on this forum, Professor, but I do have some other time constraints. Sorry. Thanks for posting this yesterday.
My friend thinks that the events of yesterday were some “trials”. What do you think?
I know you work hard to produce this blog and all its content. We appreciate it very much.
I really don’t know about “trials” Could very well be.
(Basically because the Main Stream Media has suppressed reporting.)
Thus I just don’t know enough specifics of what broke, where, etc.
Big Al, there are imbedded links in the ZH article such as: A huge blackout probably caused by a fire at a PG&E substation swept through San Francisco on Friday, bringing everyday life to a virtual standstill as homes and businesses and courtrooms went dark, traffic lights stopped working, BART and Muni service slowed, and all the cable cars shut down.
McKinney: “…alluding to the fact that we supported different Islamist groups that were attempting to under mine Syrian government…”
An amazing admission by this warmonger.
People need to remember why he retired early before they throw boulders at him!
Trumpy’s flip flopping around more than a live fish out of water.
Now he’s letting dreamers off the hook. Who’s next?
This is a huge incentive for every poor person in the world to come here and have a kid.
Trump: ‘Dreamers’ should ‘rest easy’
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/329940-trump-dreamers-should-rest-easy
Apparently, Trump ain’t following Kenny’s advice…
Eddie,
I am the only guy in the dialysis center right now who has tears in his eyes. Know why? The ad with the little girl and Annaka.
You sure it wasn’t the song? 🙂 Ok, that add after it. Although, I will say Kim Carnes had quite a set of pipes back in the day.
Eddie, do you even know what you’re talking about?
Apparently not. Once again you get it wrong, although I will give you points for trying and for the nice Kenny Rogers song. That was funny. Well, kind of. Maybe you can try harder next time.
Anyone born in this country is a citizen (not a dreamer, well in the sense you use it) even if their parents are illegal aliens. Trump can’t do anything about that.
Dreamers are illegals who came to this country as kids and never left. You should have said, “This is a huge incentive for every poor person in the world to come here and bring their kids.”
Of course theoretically you are absolutely correct Jade. I have communicated quite a bit with Eddie and, believe me, you two are not on separate sides of the fence.
Yea well, Eddie one could come to the conclusion that we screwed up so bad in the past with our allowing lawbreaking to occur that now it is impossible to put the “toothpaste back in the tube” Does that make it right? Heck no! But reality is reality!
What about tooth powder……..do they even make tooth powder any more…..you can tell that the wife does the shopping in our household…. 🙂
Re: Segment 3
Answer is to get rid of fractured (fractional) reserve banking.
“Man is the servant of money.”
Some, yes. And maybe the servant of Chelsea Clinton. Will the Clinton’s ever go away?
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/please-god-stop-chelsea-clinton-from-whatever-she-is-doing
At this point in time, I have forgotten about them for the time being. Too much other serious stuff going on.
OFF TO BELLINGHAM WITH KATHY. BACK ON THE BLOG CLOSE TO THREE HOURS STARTING ABOUT 2 PM.
That may turn out to be part of the solution Eddie.
GET RID OF CENTRAL BANKING/FED/House of RED
Two sides to every story……. Well fine, as long as you understand it is a STORY. But when you pick one side of the STORY and by your actions cause the death of thousands and thousands of “beautiful babies” as well as hundreds of thousands of other people, then you have started another different story.
With great power comes great responsibility. The buck stops here and it’s not for directions.
As for Iraq, The Pentagon was doing one thing, The CIA was doing another, State was doing another and too often they were not on the same page but often not even in the same book. So giving categorical assurances about American policies or actions is a fairy tale and a poor one at that.
And we will not even start on the Libya fiasco and the fairy tales associated with that ongoing grim episode.
I agree that this is the past but my lament is that the past few presidencies seem to follow “past is prologue”. It’s possible (and I do hope) that Trump is on a steep learning curve but my hope declines not only day by day but minute by minute.
A link here that articulates my thinking.
http://fredoneverything.org/first-transgender-president-trump-becomes-hillary/
Fred is great. Why the hell can’t we have him as President?
And he makes my point about Trumpy flopping around like a live fish out of water better than I could.
LOL, Fred likes it in Mexico and isn’t into masochism.
He’s definitely not politically correct. 🙂
I am still not ready to agree with Fred. Maybe I am being too optimistic, but I certainly hope not!
LOL, great article and right on point.
“I agree that this is the past”
“The past didn’t go anywhere.”
~Utah Phillips
A candidate we could have all gotten behind?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C93_fsFVYAQf2FF.jpg:small
hehhehhehheh
John M, my point exactly. Who else could accomplish the problem of the “big picture”? Trump, I believe has the potential to do it. We will see. A very few years down the road there will either be a huge celebration at the Korelin household or a “crow barbecue” I am praying for the latter
Al, I agree that Trump has the potential. And the alternative (HRC) was infinitely worse. His election bought us some time and some hope. You are an optimist (much good to be said about optimism) but as I watch the evolution of the Trump presidency I worry (to put it mildly).
First, I saw all the Generals and I got a bit twitchy but figured maybe some “can do” will help and Trump can always say “you’re fired” if they stray from the Trump agenda.
Then all these Goldman people and their ilk came in and my twitch started to turn into a minor spasm, but I figured maybe they will help fix the problems since they had a good part in causing the problems. And Trump could always say they’re fired.
He’s a hard headed business man I figured. He’ll learn quickly and stay the course. Well, now I am very afraid that he is learning the wrong lessons from the circumstances and the people around him. Something really big has changed within the last couple of weeks.
I don’t know what has changed. It must be “uge”. But I’m coming to the point where if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it’s probably a duck.
You speak of “a few years down the road” but at the rate this is evolving, we are likely talking months.
I am wondering who is going to be saying the words “You’re fired.” Because if it is Trump getting fired and the sh*t still hits the fan as I figure it will then what man on a “whitewashed” horse will the people turn to and who will this person or group try to blame.
Trump has got to get a grip. He has some delusions of his own but some of the people around him have delusions that will put us into World War III. And this one will come home in ways we have NEVER experienced.
Sorry Al, I see “troubles” ahead and the person I thought could “maybe” be trusted to steer us through them seems to have gone over to the “dark side”.
This one’s from Charles Savoie at silverstealers.net, on Trump and his associates. It’s a bit of a jumble. But it serves to help one consider the people by whom he is surrounded and to whom he is beholden–he is a pipsqueak in comparison. The best hope he may offer, imo, is that he represents a faction that is better than those who have been dominant for several decades.
Another great article ………thanks……..
In regards to the level of debt at the government level, since many western governments are facing a similar crisis I will discuss with reference to the UK.
As always the level of debt alone in the economy isn’t an issue, its more the debt /income ratios especially when it becomes skewed. That ratio has slowly gone out of whack since 2008, its almost a guarantee that the debt cannot be paid back under normal circumstances, external forces are required…therefore we now adjust the ratio to focus on the main issue which I think is debt interest/income. Which is how servicable is the interest, for now we are ok based on statistics but to delay the inevitable of a fiat system the government has a number of interesting options available which can be utilised with the assistance from the bank of england.
A debt jubilee is a radical solution, but that could have unintended consequences so lets park that one aside for now.
Given the low interest rate environment, the govts can keep rates low issuing more and more debt (funded by corporations, individuals, or even the bank of england itself)….any higher rate debt that comes due will be refinanced at ultra low rates….. effectively if the BOE bought it, it would be a form of quantitative easing, but the governments could also implement a rule whereby all pensioners must own a small % of govt bonds forcing individuals to own some and effectively finance the refinancing of the debts. Whilst the interest rates remain very low, the inflation that creeps into the economy would effectively devalue the debt levels over time as is currently the case. If however the bank of england were to purchase all the new bonds issued at say zero rates…then the government ultimately would never need to pay them back as it could always be refinanced at zero rates, so we could keep the hocus pocus going and the general population wouldn’t really catch on as everything would be fine. Ideally this would need to be co-ordinated with other governments/central banks otherwise it could lead to political issues.
The UK government itself can then also start taxing primary residences to boost the income aspect re: Debt/income ratios. Government housing schemes, low interest rates, quantitative easing has led to a big rise in asset prices like housing. The UK government and BOE have essentially created paper wealth for homeowners so it could claw some of it back via a capital gains tax on a primary residence once sold or some form of a mansion/land value tax. The government could collect a tremendous amount of wealth this way. House price increases trap value in the asset and isn’t of benefit to the government or the economy unless they tax it.
The other solution is that the pensioners who worked for the government till about a decade ago have been on a defined benefit scheme i.e (final salary schemes) the government should consider undertaking a scaled partial default to claw some money back. Most the pensioners have their houses fully paid for (bought during the cheap years (when house price/income ratios were about 1/3 of what they are now)….most now receive excess money which they give to their kids/grandkids as a gift or to pay for a deposit on a flat/house propping up house prices….so for the most part it is excess, so I would suggest some form of a yearly partial default which would help restore the balances from that side of things. Effectively its a way to hit the older generation without penalising the young, who are really the backbone of the british economy.
As a side now The UK government should also print money and buy gold to prepare the eventual mess that is inevitable, but all of the above can put the chaos off for many many years perhaps decades before the day of reckoning. Also to survive a country just needs to be less bad then other countries….zimbabwe solely went through hyper inflation as it was the worst of all fiat systems and confidence was lost.
The central bankS also have tools to utilise negative interest rates etc….to help reduce debt burdens as well as banning cash to lock people into bank accounts, where a charge can be implemented to restoring debt/income balances.
Helicopter money is another option to use but it would need to be geared towards the lower income families as they have a higher marginal propensity to consume. So maybe crediting £x to families earning under £xk who have kids. Giving £x to a millionaire is meaningless they’d just save it, they wouldn’t spend more. So calculated helicopter money would induce the inflation the central banks and government require to inflate away some of the debt.
Everything above should be considered and balanced out finely so it can be executed effectively.
I agree with Doc 100% in segment 3. I couldn’t have said it better.
Hard to disagree with most of what Doc says or writes!
Slightly off topic but I think this is fantastic.
Note that I have often thought that legalized cannabis is just another version of Soma.
I am embarrassed to admit that I have not read “Brave New World”. I did however read 1984 and the novel formed much of my current thinking. To be specific this novel illustrated a very frightening possibility of a future where actions; thoughts; and, perceived reality can be totally controlled.
Three books I consider essential for anyone trying to understand current events:
1984, Orwell
Brave New World, Huxley
The Prince, Machiavelli
Add in “Hunger Games” on the light side and
“The Road the Serfdom” for effect.
Al,you say that the U.S. government is not evil.
Is tyranny evil?
The whole article is at the PCR site
If This Is Freedom and Democracy, What Is Tyranny?
Paul Craig Roberts
If truth be known, Americans are no more free than were Germans under Gestapo Germany. “Freedom and Democracy America” is the greatest lie in the world.
Countries sink into tyranny easily. Those born today don’t know the freedom of the past and are unaware of what has been taken away. Some American blacks might think that finally after a long civil rights struggle they have gained freedom. But the civil rights that they gained have been taken away from all of us by the “war on terror.” Today black Americans are gratuitously shot down in the streets by police in ways that are worse than in Jim Crow days.
American women might think that finally they have gained equality, and they have—the equality to be abused by police just like men. As John Whitehead reports, women are forced by police to strip naked, often in public, and have their viginas explored as part of a “drug search.” When I was a young man, society would not have tolerated any such intrusion on a woman. The officer and police chief would have been fired and if not prosecuted for rape, would have been beat into bloody pulps by the enraged men.
Tryanny was brought to Americans intentionally by their government. Perhaps it began in 1992 with the unaccountable use of police power against an American family at Ruby Ridge. Randy Weaver’s 12 or 13 year old son was shot in the back and murdered by federal marshalls. Then his wife was murdered with a shot through her throat while she stood at the door of her home holding a baby in her arms. There was no justification for this gratuitous violence against a peaceful American family, and the federal marshalls who murdered were not held accountable. The Congress, “the people’s representatives” held a hearing, and those responsible for murdering a family told the representatives that they had “to trust the police”.
A year later, 1993, the Clinton regime murdered, using poison gas as well as gun fire, more than 100 members of the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco, Texas.
Women and children comprised most of the victims of “freedom and democracy America.” The Branch Davidians had done nothing except be different. They were a threat to no one. But the Clinton criminal government knew that it could portray the Branch Davidians, as they were different, in unfavorable lights. They were said to be in possession of, and perhaps manufacturing, illegal machine guns. They were said to be having sex with underage girls in their collective.
When the Branch Davidian compound was attacked by a tank spewing chemical warfare and then burnt to the ground, insouciant Americans were told that justice had been done to child abusers. No one objected that the same “justice” had also been done to the allegedly abused children.
Again the “representatives of the people” held a hearing. The result was that the Clinton criminal regime and Janet Reno got approval for dealing effectively with those who violate gun laws.
Ruby Ridge and Waco established the precedents that the US government could murder large numbers of Americans, and at Waco some foreigners, without consequence. The “representatives of the people” accepted the executive branch’s lies in order to avoid having to hold the executive branch accountable for what were clearly without any doubt capital crimes against American citizens for which the federal perpetrators of these crimes should have been tried and executed.
These two instances established the precedent that the US government could murder US citizens at will.
The next step was to take away the constitutional and legal protections of citizens that are in the Bill of Rights, the amendments to the US Constitution, and are, or were, institutionalized in legal practices.
The false flag attack of September 11, 2001, was the instrument for deep-sixing the bill of rights. The George W. Bush regime made us “safe” by taking away our civil liberties. Habeas corpus, the foundation of liberty, was destroyed by the executive branch’s assertion that the President on his sole authority, the US Constitution notwithstanding, can detain US citizens indefinitely without evidence, without going before a court, without any accountability to law whatsoever.
The Obama regime not only endorsed this murder of the US Constitution, “American’s First Black President” even went further. Obama declared that he had the power to sit in his office and write down names of US citizens whom he could murder at his will without acountability.
Congress did not object. The Supreme Court did not object. The American media did not object. The law schools and bar associations did not object. The Republican Party did not object. The Democratic Party did not object. The American people did not object. Washington’s allies in Europe, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada did not object. The Christian churches did not object.
I objected, and a few others like me, such as John Whitehead.
9/11 clearly, without any doubt, destroyed American liberty. Even if you are so brainwashed as to believe an obviously false story of the event, even if you believe that a few Saudi Arabians without government or intelligence service support outwitted all 16 US intelligence agencies, the National Security Council, all intelligence agencies of Washington’s vassals abroad, outwitted Israel’s Mossad, US Air Traffic Control, caused US Airport Security to fail four times in one hour on the same day, and prevented for the first time in history the US Air Force from sending fighters to intercept off course airliners, the fact remains the same: the US government used 9/11 to destroy the constitutional protections of US liberty.
The raw, ugly, but true fact that “our” government has destroyed American liberty is the reason that everyone of us is subject to experiencing the abuses that John Whitehead describes below.
Who will be next? You? Me? Your Wife? Your Son? Your daughter? Your aged and infirm parents?
When it happens, it was the American people who permitted it.
I’ve pretty much concluded that we live under the tyranny of a satanic cult that is very far advanced in its machinations for global domination.
And I’m not even a particularly religious man. At least not yet. The kind of evil we are up against is enough to make one reconsider.
Highly recommended for anyone who considers themselves a Christian, and has voted for a Skull and Bones man:
https://www.henrymakow.com/what_is_communism.html
Can a Bonesman be a Christian? I doubt it.
Of course, Makow is a ways out there, and my liberal friend found things by which to be offended on this web-site, so be advised. I just recently came across it, and am still evaluating. Seems like a valuable source for those looking to get to the bottom of things.
I just read the first bit GH.
Reminded me right away of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef
“Goyim were born only to serve us.
Without that they have no place in the world.”
Even when these people blatantly and publicly tell people that,(just gimme the money,I dont care about governments) they still bow down and serve them.
Even sacrificing their own kids to them.
Reason doesnt work, figuring out how to get people to examine their beliefs might be the trick.
Personally I dont think thats possible.
Most people wake up when they’re in discomfort, not when they’re fat and happy. It’s starting. But I’m sure those in charge are many chess moves ahead. Their weaknesses–they don’t have the truth and they don’t have the numbers.
ANTONY SUTTON was a research Fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, from 1968 to 1973. He is a former economics professor at California State University Los Angeles. He was born in London in 1925 and educated at the universities of London, Gottingen and California with a D.Sc. degree from University of Southampton, England.
Authors Preface: America’s Secret Establishment, An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones
After 16 books and 25 years in basic research I thought I’d heard it all … the world was a confused mess, probably beyond understanding and certainly beyond salvation – and there was little I could do about it.
Back in 1968 my Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development was published by the Hoover Institution at Stanford University. In three substantial volumes I detailed how the West had built the Soviet Union. However, the work generated a seemingly insoluble puzzle – why have we done this? Why did we build the Soviet Union, while we also transferred technology to Hitler’s Germany? Why does Washington want to conceal these facts? Why have we boosted Soviet military power? And simultaneously boosted our own?
In subsequent books, the Wall Street series, I added more questions – but no answers. I had more or less arrived at the conclusion that there was no rational answer that could be proven.
Then a year or so ago I received an eight-inch batch of documents – nothing less than the membership lists of an American secret society. Glancing through the sheets it was more than obvious – this was no ordinary group. The names spelled Power, with a capital P. As I probed each individual a pattern emerged … and a formerly fuzzy world became crystal clear.
The book you will read here is a combined version of a series reporting on this research. Each volume builds on the previous volume in a logical step-by-step process.
These volumes will explain why the West built the Soviets and Hitler; why we go to war, to lose; why Wall Street loves Marxists and Nazis; why the kids can’t read; why the Churches have become propaganda founts; why historical facts are suppressed, why politicians lie and a hundred other whys.
This series is infinitely more important than the original Western Technology series on technological transfers. If I have a magnum opus, this is it.
ANTONY C. SUTTON
Phoenix, Arizona
July 30, 1983
Antony Sutton was controlled opposition.
These types will sometimes reveal almost everything, but will always direct away from the evil combination of Jew and WASP elites who work together to enslave their own.
The Jew faction now dominates, but as the Persian philosopher mused: “This too shall pass.”
Whether good folks understand this or not, we are tasked by destiny with ending their evil rule, and with instituting a culture which enables us to reach the stars.
Patience! This will take generations, if not centuries. Keep on keepin’ on!
There is no alternative. There is no honor in extinction. NONE !!!
Thanks for the comment, BDC. I’m just getting into looking at his stuff, so have no fixed opinion. But yes, whether controlled opposition, or unwilling to go all the way out of fear or whatever, many are unwilling to follow the implications of their own work all the way. Chomsky comes to mind.
GH: Antony Sutton and Carroll Quigley (controlled or not), along with Michael Collins Piper (1960-2015), will enlighten. A good one from Piper: http://www.christianovercomers.com/pdf_files/New_Babylon.pdf.
When I first became aware in my early years of the nature of the American political process, I mistakenly believed that it was a matter of “Democrat vs. Republican” and then later evolved to thinking that it was really a matter of “liberal vs. conservative.”
Eventually, I came to realize that those old labels never meant anything at all: that the power of money was what truly dictated political life in America and around the globe.
However, it took many years for me to realize that the real battle is actually between Good and Evil and ultimately I came to realize that those who are in command of The Money Power on our planet today — those who are pushing for a New World Order (a global plantation under their control) — represent that Evil.
Michael Collins Piper, The New Babylon
BDC, I have come to much the same conclusion–it all boils down to money and power, and the depth of the lies to which we have been subjected is mind-boggling.
I recently found digital copies of Quigley’s stuff at archive.org.
https://archive.org/details/CarrollQuigleyBookPackFullPDFScans
Thanks for the Piper link.
ditto……..GH
ditto on the money…..ditto on the evil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V6FBP2jnwU
Worth listening to
For those with an abundance of time, and a desire for a deeper understanding of the Korea situation, I have come across the following documentary on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ01SCq_Rss&list=PL3c_vwqKxPneoViQPywTVCp8RkKXuuKsi
Unfortunately the poster doesn’t give the basic info, and he posted the documentary in a pretty miserable form–filming it off his TV as he played the DVDs:
“F.N. H. 4 years ago
These videos, why do they appear like you’ve played them on a DVD player on TV, then used another video camera to record it for upload to Youtube?
mlovmo 4 years ago
Bingo! You get a cookie.
Not changing the video quality. Man up, everyone.”
Still, the reviews are positive. I’m just starting to watch, myself. My understanding is that this documentary was created by Bruce Cumings, and is titled ‘Korea The Unknown War’.
Raising Highway Speeding Tickets to 175% of Your Weekly Income
A word to the wise. Any American traveling to Europe, you are better off hiring a limo driver or call Uber than drive yourself. In Europe, they have speed cameras everywhere. If you are 1 KM over the speed limit in Switzerland, the camera goes off and you have a fine. It’s not like America where even on an interstate highway with a 65 mph limit, traffic typically moves at 80 mph and police will start to look at you over 80. Local municipalities are different. Some of them are so broke they make up stuff.
North Korea Arrests US Citizen, Threatens To Sink US Aircraft Carrier As Japan Deploys Warships
What was already a tense and deteriorating situation in North Korea, is getting increasingly chaotic by the hour.
Doc and Bob Moriarty are 100% correct. There is/was ZERO motive for Assad to use poisonous gas. Despite the propaganda we are fed to the contrary, Assad is not a “career dictator”. He was a London eye doctor before he reluctantly returned home to assume family responsibilities. On the other hand the motives for ISIS to accuse Assad are virtually unlimited. Do we even know for sure where the videos where unprotected responders are shown to be attending to supposed victims of sarin gas. Had sarin gas actually been present all the victims and all the unprotected responders would be dead. Is America the only country naive enough to believe ISIS or was the bombing of Syria just the Neocons following their own agenda, as usual.
In Segment 4, Col Jim McKinney sounds like an Establishment Propagandist and an apologist for the Neocons.
WHAT is going on………GOLD DOWN $19……..
dow futures up 200……….just a result of a poor showing LePen..alized
In this time of sudden disclosures and unexpected blatant truths, where ‘news’ is barely distinguishable from ‘fake news’, it takes the utmost courage for an ‘insider’ to come out with the truth based on real facts.
Ronald Bernard, one of the founders of ‘B of Joy’, is one of these courageous people who dared to tell his story in front of (DVM-TV), De Vrije Media’s camera. He unfolds a life story in which he got progressively deeper into the world of the big money, in which he – as he stated himself – had been warned up front that he had to be able to put his conscience in the proverbial freezer, and keep it there at all times.
Eventually this ended in his personal complete breakdown. Ronald does his story candidly and is forthright with his emotions to explain all that had preceded this breaking point. He clarifies the distorted way the world works, in which a small group of elites, numbering between 8000 to 8500 people, who rule the entire world and discloses their ‘religious incentives’ for doing so. “If only people really knew the ins and outs of the matter and realized what is really going on”. When you have seen this interview, you will know. Then automatically the question arises: ‘how are we going to fix this, when we no longer look away, but bundle our powers?’
http://cooperatiedevrijemedia.nl/real-big-money-revelations-by-an-insider-video/
Havnt read it so have no idea about it.
I just find it interesting there are so many stories of a certain # of people ruling the whole world.
I just read one on ZH,silver doc or sgt saying the same thing, only that article figured there are 20 people ruling the world.
My mother ..long gone believed there were a half dozen people ruling he world, so this story line has gone on a long time.
My guess, is the story refers to the Rothchilds and ilk taking the bank of England, (1815) rumor was after taking control of the bank they had 50% of he worlds wealth in…..not too darn long, if that was true, and they continued their accumulation, they would own almost everything today.
Regarding CFS’s comment on Jubilee. The difficulty is that debt cancellation results in currency cancellation due to the fact that the banknotes in your pocket and credits in your accounts are based on debt creation and would have to be expunged along with debt. Except for base metal coins in circulation there really isn’t any permanent official money supply and even the base metal slugs might be subject to recall. The only way society survives Jubilee is if there is a large supply of gold and silver and maybe base metal coins in circulation that are based on the equity of their metal instead of the debts of individuals, businesses or governments.
The rebellion against god and real money can have very real consequences for society and society has been set up for a very big fall.
Seg 2…….Finally…….Chris is SPOT ON…….with JUBILEE