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September 25, 2017

A Divider, Not a Uniter, Trump Widens the Breach
By PETER BAKERSEPT. 24, 2017

President Trump boarding Air Force One at Morristown Municipal Airport in New Jersey on his way back to the White House on Sunday. Credit Tom Brenner/The New York Times
WASHINGTON — Over the course of just 17 hours this weekend, President Trump assailed John McCain, Chuck Schumer, Stephen Curry, the National Football League, Roger Goodell, Iran and Kim Jong-un — the “Little Rocket Man.” And that was on his day off.

While football players knelt, locked arms or stayed in their locker rooms during the national anthem in protest on Sunday, any notion that Mr. Trump may soften his edge, even under the discipline of a new chief of staff, seemed fanciful. While he has restrained himself for brief stretches, his penchant for punching eventually reasserts itself.

Never in modern times has an occupant of the Oval Office seemed to reject so thoroughly the nostrum that a president’s duty is to bring the country together. Relentlessly pugnacious, energized by a fight, unwilling to let any slight go unanswered, Mr. Trump has made himself America’s apostle of anger, its deacon of divisiveness.

His denunciation of what he called unpatriotic sports stars protesting racial injustice by not standing for the national anthem clearly cheered supporters at a rally in Huntsville, Ala., on Friday. For his admirers, his attacks on entitled elites can be bracing and invigorating, finally giving voice to grievances they consider long ignored. Whether by design or not, they also distract from other matters, in this case another looming legislative debacle as his health care bill faces defeat in the Senate.

In his brief career as president and a candidate for president, Mr. Trump has attacked virtually every major institution in American life: Congress, the courts, Democrats, Republicans, the news media, the Justice Department, Hollywood, the military, NATO, the intelligence agencies, the cast of “Hamilton,” the cast of “Saturday Night Live,” the pope and now professional sports. He has attacked the Trump administration itself, or at least selected parts of it (see Sessions, Jeff), and even the United States of America (“you think our country’s so innocent?”).

Trump Attacks Warriors’ Curry. LeBron James’s Retort: ‘U Bum.’ SEPT. 23, 2017

Stephen Curry, on a ‘Surreal’ Day, Confronts a Presidential Snub SEPT. 23, 2017

Trump Calls for Boycott if N.F.L. Doesn’t Crack Down on Anthem Protests SEPT. 24, 2017
“The Trump credo seems to be so many people to attack, so little time,” said Peter Wehner, a former strategic adviser to President George W. Bush and now a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.

Garry Wills, a historian who has studied other presidents, said, “No one else fires off omnidirectional personal insults in such fire-wheel fashion.” The exceptions seem to be President Vladimir V. Putin in Russia and white supremacists in Charlottesville, Va.

OPEN GRAPHIC
“I don’t think his intention is to be divisive,” said Christopher Ruddy, the chief executive of Newsmax Media and a friend of Mr. Trump’s. “He wants to be viewed as strong but also someone who speaks the truth as he sees it and not afraid what the establishment says about it. He enjoys a fight and a challenge, so that may play into some of this.

“My own view,” he added, “is that he should adapt Floyd Mayweather’s boxing style — hold most of his punches for big opportunities, and tire out your opponents for a win in later rounds.”

Intentional or not, many of his most divisive comments charge directly into one of the most delicate issues in American life, race, whether it be his attacks on illegal immigrants, his “both sides” equivocation after the racial violence in Charlottesville or now his blasts at African-American football and basketball stars like Mr. Curry, the Golden State Warriors player who said he did not want to visit the White House for a traditional champions ceremony.

Speaking with reporters before boarding Air Force One on Sunday, Mr. Trump insisted race was not the issue. “This has nothing to do with race,” he said. “I never said anything about race. This has nothing to do with race or anything else. This has to do with respect for our country and respect for our flag.”

To his supporters, Mr. Trump’s approach does not necessarily seem polarizing so much as animating. In an us-and-them world, he is speaking to a part of the country that has long felt ostracized by those who seem to have everything, whether it be Washington politicians or high-paid sports stars.

“These attacks sound divisive to the people outside that ‘us’ — and Trump’s ‘us’ is a lot smaller than most presidents’ — but not to those inside it,” said Nicole Hemmer, a scholar of conservatism and social movements at the University of Virginia’s Miller Center.

“There’s a larger politics of grievance at work,” she added, and “the base’s desire for Trump to be tough and combative” is one seen in other presidents, if less often and openly. Richard M. Nixon appealed to the “silent majority,” and Bill Clinton castigated an African-American rap star named Sister Souljah to reach out to disaffected white voters who had fled the Democratic Party.

Mr. Wehner, however, said Mr. Trump seemed to “draw a kind of psychic energy” from conflict. “We’ve never had a president who so relishes producing animosity and hate among Americans, and who does it so consistently, so gleefully and so intentionally,” he said. And when there are no obvious targets, he added, Mr. Trump goes in search of them. “He seems to have a psychological need to keep everyone around him on edge and at each other’s throats.”

Open appeals to division, while increasingly common on the campaign trail, have been rarer in the modern White House. Ronald Reagan presented a sunny optimistic view of America as a “shining city on a hill.” The first George Bush called for a “kinder, gentler” America. Mr. Clinton vowed to “repair the breach” of partisanship. The younger Mr. Bush promised to be a “uniter, not a divider.” Barack Obama declared that “we are not a collection of red states and blue states; we are the United States of America.”

None of them fully lived up to those ideals, and at times each of them appealed to division in the conduct of his presidency or campaigns. The elder Mr. Bush’s election was remembered for the racially charged debate over the furloughed murderer Willie Horton. The younger Mr. Bush’s critics complained that he impugned their patriotism for criticizing his national security policies, while Mr. Obama’s opponents complained that he regularly questioned their motives and talked down to them.

In 2015, Gallup found that the second Mr. Bush and Mr. Obama were the most polarizing presidents in modern times, as measured by the gap between how Republicans and Democrats saw them. At that point, Mr. Obama held six of the top 10 years of that polarization index and Mr. Bush the other four.

But neither Mr. Bush nor Mr. Obama overtly aspired to division on a routine basis. A Washington Post-ABC News poll found that 66 percent of Americans believe Mr. Trump has done more to divide the country than unite it; at their peaks, no more than 55 percent said that about Mr. Obama or Mr. Bush.

Mr. Trump seems unbothered by that and in that sense may be a president who suits his era better than his predecessors. He is a divisive president for a divisive time.

“We know previous presidents pursued political strategies that exploited racial divisions in our country,” said Ellen Fitzpatrick, a history professor at the University of New Hampshire. “We know Nixon had his enemies list. But the public whipping up of this sentiment in mass campaign-style rallies with the crass language Trump used in Huntsville has no precedent I am aware of.”

H. W. Brands, a biographer of Reagan and other presidents at the University of Texas at Austin, said other presidents were tactically divisive. Andrew Jackson pilloried the moneyed classes, while Theodore Roosevelt inveighed against the “malefactors of great wealth.” Franklin D. Roosevelt blamed the stock market crash on the “money changers” and said he welcomed their hatred of him.

“Trump’s divisiveness looks different,” Mr. Brands said. “It appears more impulsive and more a matter of simply stirring the pot. It makes sense from the perspective of one who has long sought to attract media attention. There doesn’t seem to be any larger purpose. I really can’t see what he hopes to win by taking on the N.F.L.”

Discussion
99 Comments
    CFS
    Sep 25, 2017 25:31 PM

    Peter Bakersept is an Anti-Trumper.

    as such he is extremely biased.

      Sep 25, 2017 25:53 PM

      But what about what he said?

        Sep 25, 2017 25:54 PM

        My concern and question to all of you is simply Trump’s method of communication.

          Sep 25, 2017 25:08 PM

          Everyone has their own style……unique in every way……..Remember God made us all different for a reason……God’s timing to put someone in office at this time?

            Sep 25, 2017 25:14 PM

            I agree with every part of your comment OOTB, except that I do not understand your last sentence.

            Sep 25, 2017 25:05 PM

            Thinking more of ……..was Trump the best person at the time of the election for the people,…… seems there were a lot of christians wanting trump, for the supreme court selection, based on what he said.

            Sep 25, 2017 25:13 PM

            As you know OOTB, Of the two candidates, I still think that Trump was the best.

            Sep 26, 2017 26:06 AM

            Are you suggesting that Hillary was better Al. For I was taught at school that the adjective good was followed by better and best., in which case to my mind Trump was the ONLY candidate!

      CFS
      Sep 25, 2017 25:57 PM

      ERROR.
      I read incorrectly the author of the piece who is Peter Baker of the New York Times.

      His fairly prolific twitter feed is:
      https://twitter.com/peterbakernyt?lang=en

      From which it may be gathered that Peter Baker is Pro-Obama and anti-Trump.

    CFS
    Sep 25, 2017 25:35 PM

    Obama did much more to divide the country along black-white lines than any other President, setting race relations back at least 50 years. Much of what we are now seeing is a consequence of Obama’s actions, not Trumps.

      Sep 25, 2017 25:59 PM

      I would agree with that statement………except the word “President”…..He Was a Fake President ……IMO……..until he uncovers his real birth certificate and opens his school records.,my mind is made up….period, end of conversation.

        Sep 25, 2017 25:15 PM

        What about the fact, OOTB, that if his mother was a citizen, he automatically is one too.

          Sep 25, 2017 25:39 PM

          there is a question ……concerning that one……

            Sep 25, 2017 25:41 PM

            If, she was …..produce the real birth certificate,….should not be a problem

            Sep 25, 2017 25:03 PM

            Cannot disagree Jerry, but to me it is now “water well past the bridge.”

            Sep 25, 2017 25:04 PM

            There are two questions here. The first comes under the term “under wedlock” and the second deals with the status of both the mother and the father.

            Sep 25, 2017 25:13 PM

            I would need to go back and find the tape which ……questioning her status…and the Kenyon father…..which supposedly she gave up her citizenship, based on the faith requirement of the Kenyon father , and question of double citizenship which was not allowed.

            Sep 25, 2017 25:16 PM

            That is an issue that I am not familiar with, Jerry. Let me know when you find something out.

            Sep 25, 2017 25:42 PM

            OOTB:

            You have a right to your own opinion but you do not have a right to your own facts. Obama’s mother was a US citizen. That makes him a natural born citizen regardless of where he was born.

            Sep 25, 2017 25:56 PM

            After doing a bit of research on this topic, I believe that Bob is correct.

            I would ask you to explain, Bob, how the concept of “born in holy wedlock” and the concept of “both parents” fits into this. I believe that both of these terms are specified in the pertinent law.

            Sep 26, 2017 26:28 AM

            Bobby, Prove that it was his mother…….show me the facts…….

            Sep 26, 2017 26:58 AM

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXJkc1Wionk……..I will start, by submitting the first question and doubt…..

            Sep 26, 2017 26:00 AM

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTBkr8PpzRg……this may prove your point….

            Sep 26, 2017 26:34 AM
      Sep 25, 2017 25:16 PM

      CFS…. I agree

        Sep 25, 2017 25:16 PM

        Daniel,

        See my comment above to OOTB.

    Sep 25, 2017 25:42 PM

    Pure unadulterated crap.

      Sep 25, 2017 25:56 PM

      I personally agree about Obama. I only raise the question, “could Trump make things better with more effective communication”? You have to admit that mine is a legitimate question.

      Remember I about not discussing issues but communication technique.

      Sep 25, 2017 25:57 PM

      please see my other comments here John K

    CFS
    Sep 25, 2017 25:52 PM

    Trump was in Huntsville on the stump for the replacement of Jeff Sessions.
    Here’s Trump’s full speech.
    With today’s anti-Trump press, one always has to go to the original source, rather than believe the media:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y8CysX2kn4

      Sep 25, 2017 25:11 PM

      Jeff “Recuse” Sessions……..still waiting……

        Sep 25, 2017 25:16 PM

        OOTB, I personally think that Session did the right thing. All things considered.

          Sep 25, 2017 25:20 PM

          I disagree, ……looking back it was a lousy decision……has not gained us one thing……Mueller is still corrupt….do the research…..Mueller, Comey…..same snake line.

            Sep 25, 2017 25:24 PM

            but, I always like to hear your thoughts…….. 🙂

            Sep 25, 2017 25:18 PM

            What doe Mueller and Comey have to do with Sessions? The investigation continues.

            Sep 25, 2017 25:44 PM

            Have you done any research on Mueller….or Comey……..check out where they were employed …..since 9/11

            Sep 25, 2017 25:02 PM

            I believe I know where they were both employed.

            Sep 25, 2017 25:14 PM

            You tell me…….. 🙂

    Sep 25, 2017 25:59 PM

    Valid point Professor.

    CFS
    Sep 25, 2017 25:11 PM

    I don’t know, but suspect Obama has a greater I. Q. than Trump. Without a doubt, Obama is a better orator. (Or had better speech writers.)

    Trump has a habit of going off written speeches more often than Obama did.
    (Obama did go off prompt at the start of his Presidency and with usually disastrous results when he did, but he learned quickly.)
    Trump’s speech was substantially impromptu at Huntsville, as can be seen.

      Sep 25, 2017 25:14 PM

      More like a snake charmer……..Obama, Barry, Santorium, Durham …..what the heck is his name…..

        Sep 25, 2017 25:17 PM

        Great thing about Trump, he talks to the minds of the eight grader education most have,… :)…… Remember you need to repeat things three times for the general public to get it.

          Sep 25, 2017 25:44 PM

          OOTB, there is such a thing as a smart snake charmer.

            Sep 25, 2017 25:19 PM

            Correction, I meant “no such thing”

            Sep 25, 2017 25:57 PM

            I would have to agree…….especially when they forget to de fang prior to performance.

      Sep 25, 2017 25:15 PM

      When you are the President of the United States, you have to cover you ass always, Professor. Very little margin of error in that position. He is not building a hotel now!

      Sep 25, 2017 25:17 PM

      Maybe CFS, but a a totally different personality.

      Sep 25, 2017 25:28 PM

      I read that Trump’s IQ is 155, higher than Bill, Hillary, and B.O.

        Sep 25, 2017 25:02 PM

        I was unaware of that and will go to Google. Not that I don’t trust you Bonzo.

    b
    Sep 25, 2017 25:37 PM

    This would be good to use so people forget about NKorea and Syria especially.

    Its unreal that the americans and Russians are poised to go to war with each other and nobody mentions it.

    Instead whats considered important is an athlete not visiting the white house.

      Sep 25, 2017 25:45 PM

      Could not agree with you more, b!

      GH
      Sep 26, 2017 26:53 AM

      Oh how our media loves to distract and deceive us from defending our own interest.

      Regardless of what the letter of the law is, in reality they’re a bunch of criminals and traitors.

    Sep 25, 2017 25:45 PM

    Trump is a Little Time Breeder fore Hope USA ! Marine Le Pen France ! Merkel Germany still a Wine white no Hope ! Brexit UK Hard Brexit Soft Brexit No Brexit ! Wake Up The New World Order ! Is in Total CONTROL !

      Sep 25, 2017 25:46 PM

      I totally don’t understand your point, Franky

        Sep 25, 2017 25:03 PM

        Order out of Chaos . It’s Coming !

          Sep 25, 2017 25:20 PM

          Yea Franky, but what kind of order?

            Sep 25, 2017 25:57 PM

            I Control Freak Electronic Prison ! Fore the people still living ! The Change off thinks is so BICK and so fundametel People can’t take ! And will obye ! And Much will flee in the Coming Virtual Reality white self killing consequences ! The Virtual reality will be the NEW ROMEN CIRCUS !!!!

            Sep 25, 2017 25:58 PM

            I really wish that you could be clearer in your comments, Franky

    PF
    Sep 25, 2017 25:57 PM

    You should all be aware that a lot of these people Trump is criticizing like Stephen Curry and Colin Kapaernik are Christian men. Most of the players on that Golden State Warriors team are Christian. That includes the coach, Steve Kerr, who is a vocal critic of Trump.

    Aside from the fact that he is pro-life, Trump doesn’t represent Judeo-Christian values. He is a selfish attention-seeker who wants to glorify himself and receive praise from the people.

      Sep 25, 2017 25:02 PM

      Thank you for that insight PF.

      Given that to be a Christian one has to follow the Lord’s teachings constantly, I would say that Trump doesn’t seem to fit into that category.

      God bless

        Sep 25, 2017 25:53 PM

        All have sinned and fallen short……..
        I do see where Steve Curry is expressing himself with being a christian,( I googled it)…..so , I will give him and the team a consideration , since, I did not know , since, I have stopped watching all National football, and baseball…( show time )

          Sep 25, 2017 25:00 PM

          I guess that I am not as strong as you OOTB! I enjoy college and NFL football and used to enjoy baseball until Seattle again fell out of any picture of being a contender.

            Sep 25, 2017 25:29 PM

            Man, I am as weak as they come………

            Sep 25, 2017 25:00 PM

            Okay Jerry, but I think that you are still in second place to me!

          Sep 25, 2017 25:32 PM

          No more NFL for me, except maybe the Cowboys as Jerry Jones came out against the kneeling. Hope the Astros don’t start kneeling or I’ll stop watching them too.

      Sep 25, 2017 25:48 PM

      Judeo Christian ……the term only started in 1950……

        Sep 25, 2017 25:01 PM

        Does it really matter when it originated, Jerry?

          Sep 25, 2017 25:16 PM

          Kind of does….if, we are not to be tricked …….remember the Jews have been set aside

            Sep 25, 2017 25:19 PM

            that is one of the reasons I asked you the other day concerning PAUL

            Sep 25, 2017 25:03 PM

            Maybe I missed your point as I have read the New Testament, but perhaps not as closely as I could have.

            Sep 26, 2017 26:22 AM

            Here are some beginning points…..read only from the KJV….not the niv.
            Romans 10:4
            Romans 10:13
            Romans 11:25
            Romans 16:25
            Romans 16:24
            2 Timothy 2:8
            2 Timothy 1:9
            Colossians 1:26
            Colossians 1:27
            Ephesians 3:2
            Ephesians 3:6
            Ephesians 3:7
            Ephesians 3:9**
            Ephesians 2:5
            Ephesians 2:9**
            Galatians 5:4**
            Galatians 1:11
            Galatians 1:16
            1 Corinthians 12:13

          Sep 25, 2017 25:18 PM

          Btw…….did you watch the tape I suggested you listen to …..talks about this issue.

    Sep 25, 2017 25:58 PM

    It’s in Trump’s nature. He is not going to change. He definitely is not “The Great Communicator”. There is a saying that “We stand on the shoulders of giants”. Well, sadly I think in terms of the leadership we see now, I would have to say “We stand on the shoulders of idiots (if not worse)”.

    Yes, Trump is getting screwed by the main stream media, the shadow government, the deep state, the democrats, the republicans, the congress, the senate and I expect that this will eventually include even the Girl Scouts given enough time. But does he have to help them so much? The picture of General Kelly during Trump’s UN speech with his hand over his face sums up my despair. Better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to speak up and remove all doubt. Too late now. Sorry, I’m becoming bitter.

    I’ve said that friends come and go but enemies accumulate. Trump’s core base is going to continue to shrink (He has this in common with Hillary). His base is pissed off and rightly so. But so are a lot of other people and going out of your way to make sure more are pissed off all the time is not going to make them ready to work together to get things better.

    At the level he is dealing at now means dealing with some very big egos (many of these people are adept at controlling this). Some that he is dealing with both domestically (some nasty people in the deep state) and internationally (here too) are going to nurse these insults. Does anybody even trust him to stick to a deal or even stay loyal to a supporter? Another saying comes to mind: “Lord, make my words tender and sweet, for tomorrow I may have to eat them”.

    There is a great deal that needs doing. Focus. Have a plan. Build, fix and repair before destroying it all just because you’re frustrated. I know there are many who are in the mood of “Just burn it all down” and “If you’re not with us, you’re against us”. But this is no way to run a railroad…… or a country. And that brings up another point: Who exactly is running this …… I don’t even know what to call it anymore?

    I fear that I see a policy of “Divide and Ruin” being played out. Those responsible (all of them, everywhere) for this policy should burn in Hell.

    Trump may be part of the solution it beats me as to how.

      Sep 25, 2017 25:10 PM

      John M,

      I have nothing to add to your comment except that it is very well thought out and, in my opinion very accurate.

        Sep 25, 2017 25:46 PM

        JohnM:

        You have summarized it far better than anyone could have. Hillary was far worse but he’s burning all his bridges and I personally find the twitter use by him offensive. It’s stupid.

          Sep 25, 2017 25:54 PM

          Well of course it is Robert. By the way, I appreciate your very positive comment out the American people which you sent me over the weekend. I think that we agree more than we disagree.

      GH
      Sep 26, 2017 26:59 AM

      Another excellent comment, JohnM

    Sep 25, 2017 25:01 PM

    Trump is being embattled by the mass media since before the election, what do you expect.Trump is trying to defend himself in Old Glory and the mantle of the founding fathers. His opposition is trying to align him with Lenin and The Bolshevists. The government is desperate to ally him with the forces of intolerance. The only way you can fight back is to become a super patriot. DT

    Sep 25, 2017 25:22 PM

    Nuggets for the eyes……….Novo………head up was given by “b”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0ygPXEi4Q8&feature=youtu.be&t=39m24s

    b
    Sep 25, 2017 25:25 PM

    PCR September 19, 2017

    This is a first. It trumps Adolf Hitler. The US has become the 4th Reich. It is doubtful that the world will survive the foreign policy of the United States of America.

    500k children dead in Iraq, we can expect 1 million children dead in Yeman

      Sep 25, 2017 25:36 PM

      Scary b, were those deaths caused by direct actions of the Americans?

        Sep 25, 2017 25:55 PM

        To add b, I know for a fact that McCaine supports the U.S. action and on the other side with non support is Al Korelin, Walter Jones and other notables!

    Sep 25, 2017 25:08 PM

    The liberal elites have one goal and that is to get people to conform. They want our society to become very conservative. They want to replace the fear of being a radical to the fear of being thought of as a radical. What will be the new fear for our society. Nobody wants to be branded a Bolshevist.

      GH
      Sep 26, 2017 26:10 AM

      Umm…

      Our elites are fomenting Cultural Marxism, the opposite of any true conservatism. They favor some ‘radicalism’, that serves their purpose of dividing and weakening those they wish to exploit. E.g. radicalism normalizing transgenderism,

      Yes they want conformity or, perhaps more accurately, passivity and complacency.

    Sep 25, 2017 25:18 PM

    A Republic if You Can Keep It ! Bay ?

      Sep 25, 2017 25:07 PM

      Notice that I posted your video which I found thought provoking after I did some research on Damon and his political and religious views.

        Sep 25, 2017 25:28 PM

        Yes AL ! GOD Helpe US !

    Sep 25, 2017 25:38 PM

    Al:
    I find it almost comical that some of the posters here find that the author of the article is biased! I read a lot of postings on this page and the vast majority are biased. So what……….we’re all biased towards different things depending on where you are from, your religion, your upbringing, your experiences, and on and on.
    As far as I’m concerned, trump doesn’t really care to build his ranks and bringing the country together isn’t his goal. May be impossible anyway. I think the country is exactly where it was when he was elected. Split down the middle. Those that supported him see him doing no harm…………those who opposed him, now oppose him vehemently.
    Can’t really conceive what might change in the future so I’m prepared to simply go one day at a time and shake my head, both at him and many of those who defend him……..

      Sep 25, 2017 25:59 PM

      Silverdollar, of course all opinions are biased. I simply ask folks to consider each and then see what they think. I realize that the New York Times is extremely biased, but I still found value in the article that I posted.

    Sep 25, 2017 25:54 PM

    Just over 2/3 of NFL players are black, so the weekend reaction to the President’s comments should not be unexpected. However, average Joe six-pack who works 50-60 hours a week just to make ends meet have a difficult time understanding the motivation of these elite athletes who are given incredible opportunities to make 7-8 figures annually.

    The president’s supporters and detractors haven’t really changed, they’ve just become more vocal and more caustic (mostly on the detractor side).

    On an historical note, on this date in 1957, nine black students entered the all-white Central High School in Little Rock, Arkansas under escort by the U.S. Army’s 101st Airborne Division. There is a strong tradition of racial integration and civil rights protection within the U.S. military, so it doesn’t really make sense for these athletes to protest during the national anthem of the nation and men & women that made it possible for them to be on the field in the first place.

      Sep 26, 2017 26:10 AM

      Anyway at least Anthony Wiener has been banged up… first baby steps on the way to full justice being served!?

    Sep 29, 2017 29:20 AM

    Did this actually happen. I heard Trump was asked if he would ever stop tweeting and he replied ” Maybe if the media starts telling the truth.”