KER Politics – Wed 11 Oct, 2017

Here is a bit of a different view on U.S. and Iranian relations from the President of the National Iranian American Council

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Al Korelin

Comments:
  1. On October 11, 2017 at 4:54 pm,
    JohnK says:

    This interview was something akin to dancing with an ugly woman. We all know the 900 pound Gorilla in the room is the Israeli lobby in Washington. We also know that this lobby will not be satisfied until we go to war and shed some more blood of America’s finest.

    Forget Iran.
    In the last 15 years more Americans died at home from Heroin overdose than did in all Middle Eastern conflicts combined.
    How about some domestic policy for a change!

  2. On October 11, 2017 at 5:55 pm,
    Chartster says:

    This pretty much “sums-up” the Isreal deception.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SylDemYaGeQ

    • On October 12, 2017 at 11:47 am,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      chartster……..glad you are still around………thanks………I would agree with you….

  3. On October 12, 2017 at 7:49 am,
    Silverdollar says:

    “Did he manage to institutionalize the necessity of diplomacy…”. Great question by your guest, speaking of Obama’s efforts. From the looks of where we are today with trump’s blustering about the Iranian nuclear agreement, unfortunately the answer is probably close to NO.
    Speaking of ‘the average American” who is notoriously ignorant of geography and history, Ben Franklin’s statement again comes to mind: “Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain and most do.”
    Our positions at present with Iran are too heavily influenced by the Israelis and too a lesser extent by the Saudis. The hardliner elements in Iranian society seem to have more say than their democratic elements. Sadly……I don’t see much improvement in our relations with that nation and it doesn’t bode well for us or them. JMO

    • On October 12, 2017 at 7:54 am,
      JohnK says:

      Here’s a quote from the Traitor President Obama. It speaks for itself.
      It’s my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we, as a Nation of warring people, conduct ourselves like the nations of Islam, where peace prevails – – – perhaps a state or period of mutual accord could exist between our governments …….”

      • On October 12, 2017 at 7:59 am,
        JohnK says:

        Here’s four reasons Obama and his Muslim Brothers can stick it where the sun don’t shine.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH-_9cwdLug

      • On October 12, 2017 at 8:11 am,
        Matthew says:

        I’m no fan of Obama but Trump’s intention to derail the Iran deal is wrong and foolish.

      • On October 12, 2017 at 3:11 pm,
        Big Al says:

        I would really like a source for that quote, JohnK

        • On October 12, 2017 at 3:57 pm,
          JohnK says:

          It was sent to me in an e-mail.I will try get the source.

          • On October 12, 2017 at 4:02 pm,
            JohnK says:

            Yes, he told us in advance what he planned to do. Few were listening.
            The following is a narrative taken from a 2008 Sunday morning televised “Meet The Press”. From Sunday’s 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, Televised “Meet the Press” THE THEN Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag.
            General Bill Gann’ USAF (ret.) asked Obama to explain WHY he doesn’t follow protocol when the National Anthem is played. The General stated to Obama that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171…
            During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Or, at the very least, “Stand and Face It”.
            Senator Obama replied :
            “As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides.” “There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression…” “The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all that sort of thing.”
            Obama continued: “The National Anthem should be ‘swapped’ for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like To Teach the World To Sing’. If that were our anthem, then, I might salute it. In my opinion, we should consider reinventing our National Anthem as well as ‘redesign’ our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love.It’s my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we, as a Nation of warring people, conduct ourselves like the nations of Islam, where peace prevails – – – perhaps a state or period of mutual accord could exist between our governments ….

          • On October 12, 2017 at 4:49 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            forget Obama……..Barry, santorie, pipe smoking, little moron……he is history, and good that he did not get a third term……………..

    • On October 12, 2017 at 3:10 pm,
      Big Al says:

      I would agree with you, Silberdollar

      • On October 12, 2017 at 4:45 pm,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        slurring your words …..Big Owl…………is it wine time……… 🙂

  4. On October 12, 2017 at 8:10 am,
    JohnK says:
  5. On October 12, 2017 at 8:58 am,
    GH says:

    Some figures that give perspective on gun related deaths from over at jsmineset.com:

    There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed.

    The U.S. Population is 324,059,091 as of June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.000000925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant! What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

    • 65% of those deaths are by suicide, which would never be prevented by gun laws.

    • 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified.

    • 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – better known as gun violence.

    • 3% are accidental discharge deaths.

    So technically, “gun violence” is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100. Still too many? Now lets look at how those deaths spanned across the nation.

    • 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago

    • 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore

    • 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit

    • 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)

    So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.

    This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

    Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equal, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.

    Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault are all done by criminals. It is ludicrous to think that criminals will obey laws. That is why they are called criminals.

    But what about other deaths each year?

    • 40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!

    • 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths.

    • 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide).

    Now it gets good:

    • 200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer walking in the worst areas of Chicago than you are when you are in a hospital!

    • 710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It’s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If the liberal loons and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total number of gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides ……………. Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions! So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns?

    • On October 12, 2017 at 9:03 am,
      GH says:

      He did get the % wrong: 30,000 / 324,000,000 = .0093%

      One can quibble somewhat with his treatment of the stats, but his argument remains solid.

      • On October 12, 2017 at 9:15 am,
        GH says:

        Assuming the base figures are correct…

        Of those 30,000, 2/3 are suicides, leaving 10,000.

        That’s leaves about 3.1 gun deaths per 100,000 people, per year, that we all might worry about as a personal risk.

        Most of those, I would argue, are people involved in shady dealings. I lived in DC for about 3 years, and there were about a dozen shootings within a 3 block radius of my house (not far from Seth Rich’s watering hole). But I never had a problem, because I wasn’t involved in anything, and I used common sense. Yes, some people are in the wrong place at the wrong time, but that would be the minority of the 10,000 cases, probably a small minority.

        So max, maybe about 1 person per 100,000 get killed by a gun out of bad luck.

        For comparison, somewhere between 47 and 94 per 100,000 are estimated to be killed by medical error every year.

        • On October 12, 2017 at 9:21 am,
          GH says:

          And surely even the most rabid ilLiberal doesn’t imagine that eliminating guns will eliminate murder. So how many of those 10,000 deaths would occur even if all guns were banned?

          • On October 12, 2017 at 9:25 am,
            GH says:

            Of course, many criminals would still have guns. It’s not inconceivable that gun related deaths could go UP if there were a ban.

            And then there’s 3D printers, which means anyone can make a gun. There is simply no way to keep guns out of the hands of those who want them badly enough.

          • On October 12, 2017 at 9:53 am,
            Matthew says:

            And where’s the hysteria and 24 hr coverage of the lives ruined by everyday drugs that were thought to be safe? It is crystal clear that the bosses on the left are all about control while they dupe half the population into thinking their only concern is your well-being.

            If we focus on actions rather than rhetoric, we can see that the left is fine with death and destruction just as long as the left benefits from it.

          • On October 12, 2017 at 9:54 am,
            Matthew says:

            For the record, most Republicans are RINO lefties and neocon lefties.

          • On October 12, 2017 at 11:49 am,
            GH says:

            “And where’s the hysteria and 24 hr coverage”

            Imagine if the news were to cover all the cases of children damaged by vaccines, with all the gory details.

    • On October 12, 2017 at 3:17 pm,
      Big Al says:

      I have printed out those stats, GH.

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