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Dr. Harlan Ullman opines on one of the most important political events that occurred this year. And, it just happened this week.

Big Al
December 8, 2017

The President announces that America will construct it’s embassy to Israel in Jerusalem. Was this a prudent decision? No says Dr. Harlan Ullman, senior fellow at The Naval War College.

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    CFS
    Dec 08, 2017 08:43 AM

    I am not a Jew.
    First. It was Bill Clinton that first recognized Jerusalem.
    (As I have previously shown via the Embassy Act of 1995.)

    Second. Does anyone really think Israel will accept anything other than Jerusalem as its capital?

    So the choice is between stalemate or giving Jerusalem as capital for Israel.

    If you listened to Mr. Trump, he was very careful in not disallowing a capital for Palestine in East Jerusalem. He was very careful in not negating anything for Palestine.

      Dec 08, 2017 08:50 AM

      Thanks for bringing that up, Professor!

      Dec 08, 2017 08:47 PM

      CFS:

      Are you familiar with UN Resolution 242?

      According to all international law, when an aggressor starts a war, when it ends, they must vacate all occupied terrority. Jerusalem is occupied territory.

      Me thinks you protest way too much about not being Jewish. Your positions are 100% Mossad.

        CFS
        Dec 08, 2017 08:16 PM

        I probably have part of the collective guilty conscience that allowed Hitler’s atrocities, but said nothing.

          Dec 08, 2017 08:53 PM

          CFS:

          You are a hoot. You allow IDF atrocities and say nothing but don’t feel a thing of guilt. When a Zionist Judge concludes the IDF committed 34 different identifiable war crimes, you think it’s perfectly ok.

          And he was biased in favor of the IDF,

        Dec 08, 2017 08:58 PM

        Robert, The Nazi-Soviet pact was signed in August 1939. In Sept. the Nazis and Russians attacked Poland from the east and west. The Russians stole a large chunk of eastern Poland. When the war was over they never returned the land to Poland as UN resolution 242 requires. This was much more territory than is in all of Israel. Perhaps when the UN requires Russia to return the Polish land they stole in 1939 then they will take up jerusalem and Judea problem First things first.

          Dec 09, 2017 09:31 AM

          Bonzo:

          Have you ever heard of ex post facto laws? You can’t pass a law trying to change the past. UN Resolution 242 was passed in 1967 and had to do only with the illegal aggression of Israel in June of 1967. How on earth could you conclude it would apply to Russia for actions during WW II.

          It no more applies to Russia than it does to the US stealing land from the Indians.

    CFS
    Dec 08, 2017 08:49 AM

    Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995

    Long title: An act to provide for the relocation of the United States Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, and for other purposes.
    Acronyms (colloquial) JEA
    Enacted by the 104th United States Congress
    Effective November 8, 1995.
    Citations
    Public law 104–45
    Statutes at Large 109 Stat. 398
    Codification
    Acts amended None
    Titles amended None
    U.S.C. sections created None
    Legislative history
    Introduced in the Senate as S. 1322 by Bob Dole (R-KS) on October 13, 1995
    Committee consideration by Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, and House Committee on International Relations
    Passed the Senate on October 24, 1995 (93–5
    Roll call vote 496, via Senate.gov)
    Passed the House on October 24, 1995 (374–37
    Roll call vote 734, via Clerk.House.gov)
    Left unsigned by President Bill Clinton and became law on November 8, 1995

      Dec 08, 2017 08:51 AM

      And, thanks for this one Professor.

      Do consider events going on around the world today however!

    CFS
    Dec 08, 2017 08:52 AM

    All Presidents since Clinton have used Executive power to repeatedly suspend execution of the JEA every year.

    CFS
    Dec 08, 2017 08:56 AM

    I expect the Palestinians to be mightily P.O.d

    I did not make comments with regard to prudence of Trump’s action. Just stated facts.

    CFS
    Dec 08, 2017 08:08 AM

    Here are some facts and questions.

    It is a fact that the City of David (Jerusalem) was the historical capital of Judea.

    Judea was conquered several times by Romans, by Muslims, etc.

    Question:
    Did the Muslims make Jerusalem an important religious site because they wanted to eliminate Judaism, or Christianity or for other reasons?
    That site was a Christian and a Jewish religious site long before Mohammed was even born.

    Do you think that if Muslims were in charge of Jerusalem, they would permit Christians or Jews to ever hold religious ceremonies there?

      Dec 08, 2017 08:49 PM

      During the many centuries the Muslims did control Palestine, yes, they did allow both Christians and Jews to hold religious ceremonies and to have churches.

        CFS
        Dec 08, 2017 08:27 PM

        How many active Jewish temples or christian churches are there in Iran or Saudi Arabia, the two muslim powers?

          Dec 08, 2017 08:31 PM

          There used to be many jewish and Christian places of worship in Arabia before Mohammed. There are not any now, and anyone seen wearing a cross or David star will be arrested.

            Dec 08, 2017 08:36 PM

            You can’t even get into Arabia if you are jewish or if you are a Christian and have an Israeli stamp in your passport. Coke can’t sell in Arabia because they sell Coke in Israel. Pepsi is allowed to do business in Arabia because they don’t sell to Israel. At least that’s the way it was when I was in Arabia in 1978.

          Dec 08, 2017 08:57 PM

          CFS:

          You are really a hoot today. Israel wants the Jews living in Iran who worship freely to move to Israel and they refuse because Iran is their home and they are welcome there. Christianity is practiced as well but there aren’t many Christians as there are not in India or Thailand for that matter. Jews were welcome in Egypt until they started bombing libraries in the 1950s.

          And as far as I know, there are a whole lot more Muslim powers than two. Do you know something I don’t?

        CFS
        Dec 08, 2017 08:36 PM

        You forget, I’ve been to e.g. Bethlehem, which is in territory under the Palestinian authority. I actually know how “tolerance” is practised.

          Dec 09, 2017 09:33 AM

          CFS:
          Would the “tolerance” practiced in Bethlehem apply to the Jews spitting on priests there or does the Mossad you represent only consider intolerance something that only applies to Muslims?

    Dec 08, 2017 08:22 AM

    I get a kick out of people like Dr. Ullman that keep trying to make something out of nothing by saying how Trump is feeling the “noose” tightening. On what basis? Just because Mueller is trying to follow the money and hopes he can find something. Maybe he’ll get something to try to make something out of nothing again.. So far the only evidence of collusion with the Russians has been the Hillary camp and nothing has been done about that—-probably because the FBI (along with some of the CIA) had been politicized (along with the IRS I might add) by the democratic party. Of course none of the fellows under Mueller are neutral —they’re all fine people that believe in justice and putting their biases aside. NOT! I think we’ll ultimately get more out of the investigations carried on by congress then anything the dishonorable Mueller and his henchmen will accomplish. Mueller, his proteges, and Comey represent a lot of what’s wrong with our government today.

      CFS
      Dec 08, 2017 08:27 AM

      Amen, Doc.

      It worries me that the fourth estate is so politicized also.

        Dec 08, 2017 08:43 AM

        You got that right. I’m not worried since I’ve known that since my 30s—and I’m a lot older now. They could hide it back then but now it’s so obvious even a democratic lefty and partisan with their half-a-brain can realize it. Of course, admission of that fact is another matter. Our 4th estate is a propaganda mill for the government, the establishment, the democratic party, and the left. It’s been that way for years. The emergence of the internet and cable along with alternative media and news has uncovered the covert activity of the MSM into the overt monster it has always been. Trump sure has hastened that realization along with his calling out of “fake news” along with obvious consistent examples. Not quite as bad as the propaganda and misformation spewed by the 4th estate is the relevant information they don’t report.

      Dec 08, 2017 08:37 PM

      Doc, I’ll bet that Mueller and Comey will be in jail long before Trump.
      Ulmann is an idiot. Don’t invite this clown back.

      Dec 08, 2017 08:09 PM

      Great points Doc.

      Dec 08, 2017 08:51 PM

      I have posted some links……….for the discussion below……….

    Dec 08, 2017 08:32 AM

    I might add that I personally didn’t think Trump’s decision as regards Jerusalem was the right thing to do, however, I believe there’s more to this then just satisfying his base which is simplistic—It might keep a few Jews happy and evangelicals happy but most of his supporters could care less. We’ll see what comes out of it. Trump has been communicating with Abbas and I have a feeling that it might be leverage in the hope for a Mideast peace accord. CFS in his first post makes a good point about the care Trump put into his statement on this issue (which is unusual for Trump).

    Dec 08, 2017 08:01 PM

    Day will Bild the Temple !

      CFS
      Dec 08, 2017 08:55 PM

      Let me add one further fact.
      The recent excavations on the Temple mount have uncovered megalith block walls and structures which almost certainly pre-date Judaism. These megalith blocks probably date to an earlier, little examined earlier civilization (pre 10,000 CE) that was substantially wiped out about 11,500 years ago. This earlier civilization probably built the Egyptian Pyramids possibly developed first agriculture and may have given rise to the Atlantis myth/folklore.

    b
    Dec 08, 2017 08:28 PM

    I hope this idea of Trump being “sneaky intelligent” is true.
    Hard for me to see as he bent over backwards to kiss Israeli butt and presses for war.

    I cant help but believe hope is with Putin.

    I hope you guys are right tho.

      Dec 08, 2017 08:59 PM

      B; Putin is starting to look like the most stable leader the world has seen in years.

        Dec 08, 2017 08:27 PM

        Putin will not stay in power as long as Fidel or Elizabeth II.

          Dec 08, 2017 08:30 PM

          N.o question about that; in my view he has been very positive for the Russian people

            Dec 08, 2017 08:38 PM

            At least Putin has more sense than Merkel and the fools in Brussels who allow millions of muslims to invade Europe.

            b
            Dec 08, 2017 08:36 PM

            Altho a devout christian, Putin has no objection to any religion in Russia.

            What he really doesnt like is terrorism, he has tried tirelessly with varying degrees of success to get the west on board with that.

    Dec 08, 2017 08:41 PM

    “sneaky intelligent”? Now there is “Hope” unleashed! He can be called a lot of things for this move but intelligent isn’t one of them in my book. Sadly, all of the cost of this move will be borne by others.

    CFS
    Dec 08, 2017 08:00 PM

    Interestingly, the UK Government bought three locations in West Jerusalem back in the 1990s, suitable for Embassy buildings. I suspect they will sell one of these locations to provide funding for a British embassy.

    Dec 08, 2017 08:13 PM

    You have to be joking………………..Mueller’s right hand man….and Hilly’s server
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-08/muellers-right-hand-man-represented-hillary-clinton-it-staffer-who-installed-her-ill
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    On December 8, 2017 at 1:00 pm,
    OOTB Jerry says:
    Fox News host Tucker Carlson has obtained documents which reveal Aaron Zebley, considered to be Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s “right hand man,” defended Hillary Clinton IT staffer Justin Cooper – a Bill Clinton aide that installed the “private, illegal” server in the Clintons’ Chappaqua home described by Politico as “jerry-rigged.”
    Reply to this comment
    On December 8, 2017 at 1:02 pm,
    OOTB Jerry says:
    They should just arrest MUELLER NOW…………Where is the DOJ
    Reply to this comment
    On December 8, 2017 at 1:06 pm,
    OOTB Jerry says:
    Demote……..why does this guy even have a job…….
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-08/deep-state-drained-top-doj-official-demoted-after-working-fusion-gps-push-trump-disi
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    On December 8, 2017 at 1:11 pm,
    OOTB Jerry says:
    Fox News reported:
    Initially senior department officials could not provide the reason for Ohr’s demotion, but Fox News has learned that evidence collected by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI), chaired by Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., indicates that Ohr met during the 2016 campaign with Christopher Steele, the former British spy who authored the “dossier.”
    Later, a Justice Department official told Fox News: “It is unusual for anyone to wear two hats as he has done recently. This person is going to go back to a single focus—director of our organized crime and drug enforcement unit. As you know, combating transnational criminal organizations and drug trafficking is a top priority for the attorney general.”
    Additionally, House investigators have determined that Ohr met shortly after the election with Glenn Simpson, the founder of Fusion GPS – the opposition research firm that hired Steele to compile the dossier with funds supplied by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee.
    By that point, according to published reports, the dossier had been in the hands of the FBI, which exists under the aegis of DOJ, for some five months, and the surveillance on Carter Page, an adviser to the Trump campaign, had started more than two months prior.
    The DOJ, as well as Robert Mueller’s deep state led investigation, had previously covered up Ohr’s anti-Trump activities and would most likely have continued doing so if not for the reporting of James Rosen.
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      Dec 08, 2017 08:32 PM

      OOTB – Michael Berry had a whole expose on all of this on his radio show yesterday

      If you go to the 16 min 34 sec mark on this audio, you’ll here how insidious this whole investigative team is and insane it is that they are still working on anything. Talk about biased….

      https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-The-Michael-Berry-Show-27764850/

        Dec 08, 2017 08:33 PM

        Oh – It was the Dec 7th, 2017 show (2nd link from top at the 16 min 34 mark) Lasts about 10 minutes be he ties it all together nicely.

          Dec 08, 2017 08:35 PM
            Dec 08, 2017 08:39 PM

            The bigger dialogue on all of this is at the 36 minute mark. Just skip the first one and go straight to the 36 minute mark. You’ll enjoy it.

            Dec 08, 2017 08:45 PM

            At the 40 minute mark it gets into all the people snared up in the Fusion GPS nonsense

            Dec 08, 2017 08:45 PM

            Thanks……..I am going to do it now……..

            Dec 08, 2017 08:55 PM

            There are a lot of hoops to jump through………..this is a new trick for an old pony

            Dec 08, 2017 08:55 PM

            just do 36 – 44 mins. That is the meat of the story

            Dec 08, 2017 08:56 PM

            Just you just have to register once for I hear media… blah blah blah… but it only takes about 1 minute.

            Dec 08, 2017 08:17 PM

            Got it…………Terry Mcclib(sp)…..wrote the check for HILLY AND BILLY, because they were broke when they left off….
            I did not know who that was……after 20 yrs….it all comes out……..What a Hoot.
            Thanks for the link…………………I enjoyed it…………the CLAW

            Dec 08, 2017 08:22 PM

            I have been telling people for Years…to Figure out How BILLY AND HILLY amassed a fortune since they left the White House Broke……and suddenly they Had $135million Trust Fund within a couple of years…….All the pieces are falling into place.

            Dec 08, 2017 08:33 PM

            Yep, I caught that while driving around yesterday and thought it would line up well with what you were posting. Nothing is shocking anymore….

            b
            Dec 08, 2017 08:42 PM

            Stop complaining.
            They stole it fair and square.

            Dec 08, 2017 08:59 PM

            All we need to do now……..is link Owl’s friend ……with who he is associated with in the FELLOWSHIPS……. 🙂

    Dec 08, 2017 08:32 PM

    Here is one more ………concerning the Bank……please have him explain
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-05/trump-attorney-says-deutsche-bank-did-not-receive-subpoena-mueller

    Dec 08, 2017 08:31 PM
    Dec 08, 2017 08:03 PM

    I didn’t listen to this segment because Ullman ain’t my cup of tea. And what the guy says is too predictable ( in a Shillish way ). But the comments and links on this segment are rich. Thanks to all of you who comment!

    Dec 08, 2017 08:48 PM

    Is it just me or are you starting to become a leftist Big Al???