Ron Paul – Thu 11 Jan, 2018

Koreans Agree To Talk To Koreans…Nikki Haley Furious!

The North and South Koreans have moved closer to starting direct negotiations aimed at defusing the high tension levels on the peninsula. Instead of cheering an opening to diplomacy, however, US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley has warned that the US will not support such talks unless North Korea gives up its nuclear program first…


Comments:
  1. On January 11, 2018 at 10:23 am,
    Ebolan says:

    Of course Nikki is furious. Those pesky Rooskies meddled in the Binomo elections! This is serious stuff!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RgXL7byTF0&t=11m25s

  2. On January 11, 2018 at 10:34 am,
    b says:

    Maybe the Koreans can come to an agreement without U.S. support.

    I just found an interesting lecture, what zionism is, when it started its goals methods who is part who is resisting etc…..a few tidbits, such as the americans have been and are paying $1 million to fight in Syria.

    Why wouldnt they tell the american people, I thought they needed work.

    CFS, you might not like this one.

    https://youtu.be/KeN2emeL8dQ

    • On January 11, 2018 at 3:26 pm,
      GH says:

      Good stuff, b, keep em coming.

      Some think that condemning each individual act of Islamic terrorism somehow gets to the root of the problems facing America.

      But clearly, understanding Zionism and Cultural Marxism is incomparably more important, as these Jewish movements have incomparably more impact on Americans’ lives.

      • On January 11, 2018 at 3:59 pm,
        b says:

        Interesting how pcs fit together isnt it.

        He mentioned a prophecy, I wonder if the christians have the same one.
        It sounds familiar.

        Another note, he had Turkey right, until Putin exposed the american plan to get rid of Erdogan. lol

  3. On January 11, 2018 at 10:38 am,
    GH says:

    US desperate to maintain tensions in the Koreas.

    As long as Nikki Haley remains in her position, Trump has little credibility.

    What say the Trump believers? Maybe that she’s just a smokescreen to keep the Swamp confused? Possible, but then, mental gymnastics to rationalize anything are always possible.

  4. On January 11, 2018 at 10:43 am,
    GH says:

    Sanity from someone who understands foreign policy

    http://non-intervention.com/3095/president-trump-face-facts-only-non-intervention-can-make-america-great-again/

    “There is nothing sane that an American president can do to short-circuit the occurrence of these approaching disasters, so it is best that you get the easily solved problems of Ukraine, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan out of the way. Thereafter, Sir, prepare yourself to resist the intense pressure from Necons, Globalists, Israel-Firsters, Congress, the generals, and much of the media that will be loosed on you when the Islamists’ African campaign gathers pace and the usual war-mongering subjects in the United States slither out from under their rocks begin to clamor for a war to “liberate Africa”.”

    “When I last wrote to you and asked whether you had any idea of what the term “America First” means, I focused on the single issue of moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. I chose that issue because it seemed to me to betray your lack of knowledge about how many billions of dollars, thousands of lives, and the broad and steadily deepening international hatred that move and our overall relationship with Israel have cost the republic. You also seemed just as ignorant of what the yield on our investment in supporting Israel has been. Well, just FYI, it has yielded nothing but a reliably disloyal, domestic Jewish-American fifth column; a sophisticated Israeli intelligence network that suborns Americans to steal or sell secret U.S. military, industrial, and technological data for Israel’s use or for it to sell to our enemies; and a suborned Congress that really is overwhelmingly more responsive to Israel’s monetary and political demands than it is to the needs of, say, U.S. veterans, the nation’s infrastructure, or our malnourished children. There has never been a more historically accurate analysis of the always dreadful results of American interventionism – the polar opposite of America First – than that written about our unquestioning support for Israel by America’s second greatest diplomat, George F. Kennan. On 25 April 1978, Kennan wrote in his diary that the United States had built “a fateful tie to the Israelis from which we have, in contradistinction to the Israelis, everything to lose and nothing to gain.” (1)”

    • On January 11, 2018 at 10:44 am,
      GH says:

      “non-interventionism is a concept dearly beloved by non-elite Americans, working men and women who see no reason to spend their taxes and children’s lives on always fractious foreigners who hate the United States but love its money. Tax cuts are swell, Mr. President, but non-killed soldier-children are endlessly better. Those same people, Sir, also recall that you sold yourself to them as the champion of a non-interventionism, and can only believe that, to date, you have been close to an utter sham on that score. Words to the wise.”

  5. On January 11, 2018 at 10:49 am,
    GH says:

    Worth repeating to Trump and his stalwarts:

    “you sold yourself…as the champion of non-interventionism, [but we] can only believe that, to date, you have been close to an utter sham on that score.”

    Scheuer is a former CIA expert on the Middle East and Al Qaeda, for those who want to argue that Trump is somehow delivering on his non-interventionist campaign rhetoric.

  6. On January 11, 2018 at 11:19 am,
    b says:

    I thought the “make america great again” was great marketing, really allowed people to go into their own minds and recall a time in their lives they felt life was good.

    Who wouldnt vote for that?
    Heck even a neocon could dream of past glory.
    Excellent marketing.

    Trump is part of the 2 headed snake, a zionist, he literally stood at that wall with a beanie on his head, is it possible to pucker up more than that?

    • On January 11, 2018 at 1:24 pm,
      CFS says:

      Do you wear shorts going into a Muslim mosque?
      How about wearing shoes?
      Please understand politeness which has nothing to do with core beliefs, b.

      Ever seen women without covered shoulders in a mosque? Same reason.
      Heck, in many mosques women are not allowed to be with the men.

      • On January 11, 2018 at 2:33 pm,
        GH says:

        Why should all Presidents and nationally prominent politicians pay obeisance to Israel at the Wailing Wall? Why should ANY?

        Jewish Americans have been fanatical in their dedication to removing any trace of Christianity from public life in the US, but our Prez needs to go don a yarmulke and pay respects at the bogus Wailing Wall?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ

      • On January 11, 2018 at 2:34 pm,
        GH says:

        Russia-gate is a bad joke.

        Israel-gate is the real deal.

      • On January 11, 2018 at 3:25 pm,
        b says:

        I dont believe what Trump did was done from “polite”.

        • On January 11, 2018 at 3:30 pm,
          GH says:

          LOL

        • On January 11, 2018 at 4:50 pm,
          CFS says:

          Listen to Nikki Haley.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MurYjlDOP0Q

          Explain why almost 20% of the inhabitants of West Jerusalem are Palestinians that have entered from East Jerusalem and applied to be Israeli Citizens; a process that takes more than 3 years. (During which I am sure they are heavily investigated)

    • On January 11, 2018 at 1:27 pm,
      CFS says:

      And if you claim the wall is not a religious place. Think again, the sexes are separated there also.

      • On January 11, 2018 at 3:40 pm,
        GH says:

        It may be bogus and a religious place at the same time.

        Clearly it is religious to the Jews.

        But that does not mean it is actually a remnant of the temple. Brother Nathanael contends that it is a remnant of the Roman Fort Antonia.

        • On January 11, 2018 at 4:10 pm,
          b says:

          That guy is pretty good.
          He reminds me of the christian story, a couple good people in the city and god doesnt destroy it.
          Well, hes the guy.

          • On January 11, 2018 at 4:21 pm,
            GH says:

            As Al says, it’s good to listen to various perspectives, and Bro Nat certainly always delivers interesting grist for the mill.

        • On January 11, 2018 at 4:59 pm,
          CFS says:

          Sections of the wall clearly pre-date both the Romans and the entry of the Jews into Judea.
          The Megalithic foundations of the wall, I believe pre-date Noah’s flood, and date to a pre-diluvian civilization, wherein building with megalithic stones was typical.
          Archaeological studies have been made since the Israelis have been in Control of Jerusalem. I believe Solomon chose to build on an existing structure, which is not atypical of buildings in the Middle East.

          • On January 11, 2018 at 8:56 pm,
            GH says:

            Interesting, thanks for the info. Will have to follow up.

            I share your ideas regarding megalithic stones and ancient civilization.

          • On January 11, 2018 at 10:50 pm,
            CFS says:

            The Israelis have built some tunnels to explore the foundations of the Temple Mount.
            (Probably to prove Jewish origins.)
            They used to publish photos and stone type (sand stone, granite, etc,) of walld found.
            From the photos, given the size and composition of the building stones one could estimate weight. Stones of several tons were common, and from memory there were some associated with arches of up to 20 tons. When I say arch, that is not a roman arch, but two supporting stones and one large one spanning across the top.

  7. On January 11, 2018 at 11:25 am,
    AJ says:

    Former launch officers urge Congress to curb Trump’s nuclear powers
    http://thehill.com/policy/defense/368514-former-launch-officers-urge-congress-to-curb-trumps-nuclear-powers

  8. On January 11, 2018 at 11:36 am,
    Tom says:

    long RYI

  9. On January 11, 2018 at 3:03 pm,
    Dick Tracy says:

    The Americans are living in the past, they created this problem and it has been going on for 65 years. The Americans don’t want to solve another gigantic screw-up they have created. I just hope there is some intelligent life out there that will intervene in our affairs before we destroy ourselves with nuclear weapons and our civilization. DT

    • On January 11, 2018 at 3:33 pm,
      GH says:

      For those who did it, it wasn’t a screw up. It served their purposes perfectly, or they would have resolved the situation long ago. All it takes is for the US to stop threatening N Korea.

      • On January 11, 2018 at 3:41 pm,
        Dick Tracy says:

        GH, I don’t think that it solved their purposes perfectly, how can you say that when the proliferation of nuclear weapons is caused by rogue states now threatening our civilization because they themselves are threatened. DT

        • On January 11, 2018 at 4:05 pm,
          GH says:

          I think you need to think more deviously, DT.

          These aren’t normal, healthy, sane people driving our policy toward Korea, and they never have been–by General Le May’s own account, the USA killed 20% of the populace of N Korea. Imagine the trauma of the remaining 4 out of 5.

          Maybe peace isn’t the objective?

          Maybe smoldering hotspots like N Korea serve the purposes of the MIC?

          Maybe for those of a certain mindset (no matter if they are wrong or right), it is essential for America’s security to project military force into Asia, which requires problem spots like N Korea?

          Maybe the financiers who finance all this military activity, and undoubtedly influence most politicians, are only thinking about the Benjamins?

          Think about it DT.

          The narrative they have told us for decades now is that the N Korean leaders are loco. So loco that if the US weren’t holding regular military maneuvers off their coast, they would attack some neighbor, because…..well, because they’re CRAZY.

          This is a tale told for children, reliant upon our not understanding the history of the 1950s war.

          The Kims are clearly about self preservation. They’re not interested in getting Husseined or Gadhafied. If we left them alone, the Koreans would work out their differences and there would be no problem. But we don’t. So clearly ‘we’ don’t want the problem to go away.

          Yes, big picture maybe this threatens those provoking tensions as well. Or maybe it’s all just a scripted act and they know very well there’s no real risk. Have you noticed how every once in a while, as if on cue, Kim makes some ridiculous statements that are hugely amplified by the mass media? Circus distraction/manipulation.

          In any case, some personality types prefer to go for broke, damn the risks. E.g. psychopathic megalomaniacs, who are surely over-represented in our power structure.

          • On January 11, 2018 at 4:18 pm,
            GH says:

            BTW, my understanding of the history is that there was a sellout faction allied with the Japanese that the US wanted to run Korea. Japan and Korea don’t exactly have a harmonious historic relationship, so the northerners were having none of it.

            This whole festering mess is caused by American intervention, the obvious motive of which is to have a beachhead to project military power into Asia.

            I am interested in hearing other versions/theories.

          • On January 11, 2018 at 4:27 pm,
            GH says:

            Other beachheads, at least historically: Indonesia (where the US sanctioned mass slaughter by the dictators it supported), the Philippines (where the US caused the death of maybe 600,000 in one of our first Imperial wars), Taiwan, Japan.

          • On January 11, 2018 at 4:33 pm,
            GH says:

            A couple more points of history indicating the US wants the problem to continue to fester:

            1) The Korean War has never officially ended, as there has been no peace treaty.

            2) The US and N Korea reached an agreement to de-escalate the tensions back in the 1990s. N Korea held up its end of the deal for years. The US didn’t. So the N Koreans eventually didn’t either.

    • On January 11, 2018 at 5:02 pm,
      CFS says:

      If you are talking about Israel, DT, it was created by the United Nations, Sure with US persuasion.

      • On January 11, 2018 at 5:18 pm,
        Dick Tracy says:

        CFS, I don’t think you listen or read these posts, where did I talk about Israel. The lights are on but nobody’s at home. DT

        • On January 11, 2018 at 11:00 pm,
          CFS says:

          You wrote:
          “The Americans are living in the past, they created this problem and it has been going on for 65 years. The Americans don’t want to solve another gigantic screw-up they have created. I just hope there is some intelligent life out there that will intervene in our affairs before we destroy ourselves with nuclear weapons and our civilization. DT”

          Only after I made my comment was it clear it was referring to Korea. (We had been talking also about Israel, and posts do not always post in close proximity, as you know.

  10. On January 11, 2018 at 4:39 pm,
    GH says:

    Korea info from the past year or so.

    Paste into wordpad, ms word, etc. and do a find replace:

    XXXXX replace with http://
    YYYYY replace with https://

    XXXXXdailycaller.com/2017/04/14/a-war-with-north-korea/
    XXXXXgawker.com/a-lot-of-smart-people-think-north-korea-didnt-hack-sony-1672899940
    XXXXXnews.antiwar.com/2017/08/18/north-korea-sees-planned-us-south-korea-wargames-as-catastrophe/
    XXXXXnypost.com/2014/12/30/new-evidence-sony-hack-was-inside-job-cyber-experts/
    XXXXXoriginal.antiwar.com/daniel-mcadams/2017/09/17/nikki-haley-meltdown-assad-must-go-war-north-korea/
    XXXXXoriginal.antiwar.com/justin/2017/04/18/who-really-started-the-korean-war-2/
    XXXXXoriginal.antiwar.com/peter_van_buren/2017/10/26/madmen-north-korea-war/
    XXXXXoriginal.antiwar.com/robert-koehler/2017/08/16/north-korea-hate-us/
    XXXXXstephenlendman.org/2017/10/jimmy-carter-explains-north-korean-leaders-told/
    XXXXXwww.globalresearch.ca/articles/WIL204B.html
    XXXXXwww.globalresearch.ca/north-korea-their-health-system-sucks-do-they-have-schools-and-hospitals-in-america-weve-got-medicare/5604293
    XXXXXwww.globalresearch.ca/north-korea-threatens-america-theyre-coming-theyre-going-to-blow-us-up/5579397
    XXXXXwww.globalresearch.ca/washington-rejects-diplomacy-with-dprk-is-trump-contemplating-korean-war-2-0/5579006
    XXXXXwww.independent.co.uk/voices/north-korea-missile-test-us-1994-agreed-framework-pyongyang-programme-kim-jong-un-donald-trump-a7876446.html
    XXXXXwww.informationclearinghouse.info/article34497.htm?utm_source=ICH%3A+US+Racket+at+Root+of+Korea+Conflict&utm_campaign=FIRST&utm_medium=email
    XXXXXwww.kereport.com/2017/04/17/big-al-discusses-tenuous-situation-north-korea-grant-williams-real-tv/
    XXXXXwww.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/05/03/n-korean-crisis-really/
    XXXXXwww.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO1Nov2016.php
    XXXXXwww.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-11/china-threatens-bomb-north-koreas-nuclear-facilities-if-it-crosses-beijings-bottom-l
    XXXXXwww.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-13/north-korea-blasts-evil-un-sanctions-vows-expand-nuclear-program
    XXXXXwww.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-28/beijing-orders-all-north-korean-businesses-close
    YYYYYconsortiumnews.com/2017/09/04/how-regime-change-wars-led-to-korea-crisis/
    YYYYYen.wikiquote.org/wiki/Korean_War
    YYYYYskeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/38395/did-general-curtis-lemay-say-that-20-of-the-north-korean-population-was-killed
    YYYYYsputniknews.com/columnists/201703191051744237-cunningham-us-tillerson-china-korea/
    YYYYYsputniknews.com/columnists/201708111056391183-is-north-korea-showing-emperor-is-naked/
    YYYYYtheintercept.com/2017/05/03/why-do-north-koreans-hate-us-one-reason-they-remember-the-korean-war/
    YYYYYtheintercept.com/2017/09/05/north-korea-says-it-might-negotiate-on-nuclear-weapons-but-the-washington-post-isnt-reporting-that/
    YYYYYwww.amazon.com/Origins-Korean-War-Vol-Liberation/dp/B01N8Q79WB/ref=la_B000APKD7K_1_12?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1492953990&sr=1-12
    YYYYYwww.counterpunch.org/2017/09/08/why-trump-wont-start-a-war-with-north-korea/
    YYYYYwww.globalresearch.ca/jimmy-carter-brands-us-oligarchy-urges-trump-to-sign-north-korea-peace-treaty/5609009
    YYYYYwww.globalresearch.ca/un-security-council-resolution-2375-on-north-korea-preparation-for-war/5609257
    YYYYYwww.infowars.com/who-gave-north-korea-nukes-in-the-first-place/
    YYYYYwww.theburningplatform.com/2017/04/18/the-historic-and-factual-basis-of-n-koreas-hatred-of-the-us/
    YYYYYwww.thenation.com/article/diplomacy-with-north-korea-has-worked-before-and-can-work-again/
    YYYYYwww.wired.com/2014/12/evidence-of-north-korea-hack-is-thin/
    YYYYYwww.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ01SCq_Rss&list=PL3c_vwqKxPneoViQPywTVCp8RkKXuuKsi

    • On January 11, 2018 at 4:58 pm,
      Ebolan says:

      Hah! Very clever GH…you found a way to by-pass that single link per post limit.

      I asked Mr. Big Al years ago to fix that. Luckily, I don’t tend to have many posts with more than one link.

  11. On January 11, 2018 at 4:55 pm,
    Ebolan says:

    Alright boyz, put away those pink pussie hats…they’re racist dont ya know…and you might offend a transgender….

    Pink pussyhats: The reason feminists are ditching them
    https://www.freep.com/story/news/2018/01/10/pink-pussyhats-feminists-hats-womens-march/1013630001/

    • On January 11, 2018 at 4:56 pm,
      Ebolan says:

      And looks like Trump set the Dems hair on fire with this one….

      http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article194100584.html

      You gotta admit, these are entertaining times….

      • On January 11, 2018 at 5:04 pm,
        Ebolan says:

        I confess that I just love to see the reaction when Trump says stuff like that. It is hilarious. Loved the look on Jeb’s face as Trump called him “low energy” and even worse. And in the debates when he was calling Clinton Crooked Hillary. The seething look on her face was priceless.

        I loved Bush, too, for stuff like this…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF48IghIN7c

        Of course, Bammy wasn’t bad with his 57 states https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

        • On January 11, 2018 at 5:05 pm,
          Ebolan says:

          I confess that I just love to see the reaction when Trump says stuff like that. It is hilarious. Loved the look on Jeb’s face as Trump called him “low energy” and even worse. And in the debates when he was calling Clinton Crooked Hillary. The seething look on her face was priceless.

          I loved Bush, too, for stuff like this…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF48IghIN7c

      • On January 11, 2018 at 5:07 pm,
        Ebolan says:

        I confess that I just love to see the reaction when Trump says stuff like that. It is hilarious. Loved the look on Jeb’s face as Trump called him “low energy” and even worse. And in the debates when he was calling Clinton Crooked Hillary. The seething look on her face was priceless.

        I loved Bush, too, for stuff like this…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF48IghIN7c

  12. On January 11, 2018 at 5:08 pm,
    Ebolan says:

    You got to find a way to laugh at the Empire…

  13. On January 11, 2018 at 11:11 pm,
    CFS says:

    Stefan Molyneux makes comments about racism and religion:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-DOE17qZOM