Big Al and Jim McKinney recap where we are this afternoon vis a vis the FISA Memo
I completely agree with your final sentence Profesor!
Likewise there were some corrupt partisans within the DoJ, the IRS and the State Department.
Well of course, Professor.
I will attempt to how the FBI Counterintelligence Division and DOJ National Security Division were weaponized. This outline is the full story of what House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes is currently working to expose. This outline exposes what I believe is by far the biggest political scandal in U.S. history. It may also show how one man’s action likely saved our constitutional Republic.
That man is Admiral Mike Rogers.
To understand the larger FISA 702(16)(17) issues in 2016 it is important to focus on the fact that information tends to be compartmented, basically on a need to know basis.
Intelligence information is housed by compartments within the larger intelligence community network. Each intelligence unit holds intelligence unique to that compartment and task. The FBI Counterintelligence unit holds the intelligence information specific to their task or assignment; the DOJ National Security Division would hold their own compartmented intelligence; again, specific to their task and objectives. So also for the DOJ, DoD (Pentagon), State Dept., or CIA.
This compartmentalization was substantial blamed for the failure to stop 911; at least the 911 Commission thought so.
This led to the creation of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, ODNI. The 911 commission recommended the office to serve as a hub able to ensure intelligence sharing; that is – to make sure that intelligence was not intentionally withheld from other compartments when needed.
In 2016 the DNI for President Obama was James Clapper.
The DNI is a political appointment, a cabinet member, of the President. If the executive branch, the President, wanted to weaponize intelligence as a political tool, he/she would have control over such weaponization as an outcome of their political appointees within the: FBI (Comey, McCabe), DOJ (Lynch/Yates), CIA (Brennan), DNI (Clapper), or DoD (Ash Carter), etc.
This is what appears to have happened.
(How many years have I pounded away in this forum criticizing Obama as a traitor?)
(I will give a full outline in the sections that follow, but need to cover political structure first.)
CFS:
I hate to say it but I’m going to sorta agree with you. You are utterly correct about Mike Rogers being a hero by actually abiding by his oath of office. He recognized the problem and took action.
Will it save the constitutional Republic? I have grave doubts. The US has crossed the Rubicon and a military takeover is highly likely. Entrophy is taking over and things are getting more and more chaotic. Eventually the general surrounding Trump will determine the US needs tribunals and a lot of people tossed in the slammer.
Oversight into the compartmented intelligence of the U.S. falls to a very select group of Congress-critters, known as the Intelligence Gang of Eight.
The Gang of Eight contains:
Four Democrats and Four Republicans (four minority party and four majority party.)
Four from the House and Four from the Senate.
The Gang-of-Eight can, if they choose, interact with the intelligence product with the same level of security clearance as the compartment being reviewed.
NOTE: Only these eight members can interact with the intelligence product in this way. This theoretically ensures their ability to conduct oversight.
It is necessary to understand the difference between the House Intelligence Committee, the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Gang of Eight. Only two members from the House Intelligence Committee (chair and minority), and two members of the Senate Intelligence Committee (chair and vice-chair) are participants. The other four are Speaker of the House, minority leader of House, Leader of Senate and Minority leader of Senate. The latter four are not part of any other intelligence committee.
Now to the historical outline of what happened…..
On March 20th 2017 congressional testimony, James Comey was asked why the FBI Director did not inform congressional oversight about the counterintelligence operation that began in July 2016.
FBI Director Comey said he did not tell congressional oversight he was investigating presidential candidate Donald Trump because he claimed the Director of Counterintelligence suggested he not do so. N.B.
https://youtu.be/HlXXZQgh72Y
Notice how Comey doesn’t use FBI Counterintelligence Director WH “Bill” Priestap’s actual name, but refers to his position and title. Again, watch the first three minutes:
It is clear thatFBI Director James Comey was caught entirely off guard by that first three minutes of that questioning. He simply didn’t anticipate it.
Oversight protocol requires the FBI Director to tell the congressional intelligence “Gang of Eight” of any counterintelligence operations. The Go8 has oversight into these operations at the highest level of classification. Comey never told the Go8 as soon as he should have.
Clearly, based on what we have learned since March 2017, and what has surfaced recently, we can all see why the FBI would want to keep it hidden that they were running a counterintelligence operation AGAINST A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.
After all, as FBI Agent Peter Strzok said it in his text messages, it was an “insurance policy”.
REMINDER – FBI Agent Strzok in text to FBI Attorney Page:
“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office that there’s no way he gets elected – but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk. It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”
If we have military tribunals and the death penalty eventually it will feed on itself. Many of the people murdered but the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia were the members who supported Pol Pot. And during the French Revolution and Russian Revolution, they started by whacking the royalty and ended up killing each other.
One of the reasons I believe that surveillance might have been going on for all Republican candidates and on Trump much earlier than has been detailed so far is a blocking of oversight by the Inspector General by Sally Yates as early as July 2015.
https://www.ignet.gov/sites/default/files/files/OLC%20IG%20Act%20Opinion%20-%207-20-15%20.pdf
The Office of Inspector General. Michael Horowitz, requested oversight over the DOJ National Security Division and it was Sally Yates who responded with a lengthy 58-page legal explanation saying, essentially, ‘nope – not allowed.
Thus the stage is set for weaponization of intelligence.
Note that the Steele dossier was referred for criminal prosecution:
There is no published record of any investigation or prosecution yet.
(and details of the referral other than the above pdf are classified.)
The referral at issue suggests that Steele may have provided false statements to the FBI — the same violation of section 1001 of the federal penal code to which Michael Flynn and George Papadopoulos have pled guilty in the Mueller investigation.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455248/christopher-steele-criminal-referral-appropriate
nce 2010, Steele, a former British intelligence officer who now runs Orbis Business Intelligence Ltd., a private investigative firm in London, has apparently had a contractual relationship with Fusion GPS, a private U.S.-based research firm. Fusion is run by former Wall Street Journal reporters Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch. According to what Steele has represented to a court in Britain (where he is being sued for libel over the dossier), it was in the context of this longstanding arrangement that Fusion, in the spring of 2016, retained Steele to compile the dossier. Fusion had been commissioned by the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee to produce this anti-Trump opposition research.
According to Steele, he began compiling the dossier in June 2016. In late July or early August, he began feeding the FBI the information contained in the reports. Not coincidentally, this occurred shortly after hacked DNC emails began being published on July 22, 2016, just a few days before the Democratic National Convention (which took place July 25–28).
We should address some apparent misunderstanding about how the FBI works with informants. Most of the time, the bureau receives information from people who (a) volunteer it, (b) are compelled by subpoena to provide it, or (c) are criminal suspects who become informants in exchange for leniency (hoping either not to be charged or to be sentenced lightly). In extraordinary cases involving great potential risk to life or to national security, the FBI pays for information — or at least holds out the possibility of paying for it if the informant satisfies various conditions.
Note that apparently the FBI did not place a Non Disclosure Agreement on Steele, for information he gave to them.
At present, it appears that the FBI negotiated with Steele about possibly paying him (if he could corroborate his allegations), but ultimately Steele was not paid (very likely because he couldn’t). Regardless, unless the FBI took information from Steele on the condition that he neither take money from any contractor nor disclose the same information to third parties, Steele would have been free to collect income and disclose information as he pleased. Criminal culpability would be an issue only if Steele lied to the FBI about what he was doing. (Whether the government could have better managed its relationship with Steele is a separate question.)
Mr. Big Al Korelin and all of you people,
Here is a must listen to interview. Mr. Big Al Korelin, you ought to get Ray McGovern on your show. He really has many shocking facts people need to know about.
https://tomwoods.com/ep-1087-the-truth-about-the-fisa-memo-with-ex-cia-analyst-ray-mcgovern/
Ray McGovern has the gist correct, but makes a few technically incorrect statements.
The Steele Dossier was NOT paid for by the FBI, because Steele was not in the hire of the FBI at that point in time when they received the dossier.
McGovern is also factually incorrect about McCabe’s retirement, according to my understanding. Yes he is absent from the FBI, but does not retire until march; he is using vacation time. (But he has gone into hiding, so he cannot be subpoenaed.)
Please understand, it also appears that the Office of the Inspector General is also investigating improprieties of FBI and NSA unmasking.
Letter of Carter Page, the Subject of FISA Warrants:
https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/carter_page_hpsci_hearing_transcript_nov_2_2017.pdf
Tracy Beanz on Carter:
Why Carter Page Was Worth Watching
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/03/carter-page-nunes-memo-216934
Sept 16, 2016 text from Liza Page about Strzok needing to prep FBI clearly implicates Obama in the spying on Trump illegality.
oops. sorry on youtube repost.
Will there be riots in the northern cities when Obongo is taken off in chains to federal prison?
I just bought shares in a Canadian company founded in 1880. Always wanted it in my collection.
What makes you think true justice will be obtained?
Does Kenya or the Maldives or wherever he last was seen have extradition treaties for USA Treason offenders?
Besides, can a Kenyan or Indonesian citizen be legally convicted of treason against the US?
Why not? They were champing at the bit to try it on an Australian by the name of Assange. It’s the extradition that will keep the Clinton’s and Obama’s safe from their just dues. They’ve already transferred their money to banks outside US jurisdiction and bought properties in countries with no extradition with the US.
Make no mistake, Obama was the origin of much of the corrupt behavior, not Hillary.
She inherited and will be blamed for the corruption under Obama.
If the PDBs are ever released we will find out the truth.
(PDB are President’s Daily Briefings) Please note that the name is slightly a misnomer because the PDBs are accessed by more than just the President.)
Secondly it is not the whole of the FBI that is to blame, but a specific few in position of power.