KER Politics – Mon 14 May, 2018

Usury; our banking system; and, Mr. Kerry thanks again Mr. Howe.

Click download link to listen on this device: Download Show

Where’s the outrage over Kerry’s secret meetings on the Iran deal?

BY MARC A. THIESSEN Special to The Washington Post

WASHINGTON

Democrats routinely express outrage over claims of collusion with a foreign power to undermine our democracy. So where is the outrage over revelations that former secretary of state John Kerry held not one but two secret meetings with Iran’s foreign minister to strategize over how to undermine President Trump’s plans to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal?

An Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman confirmed the meetings after the Boston Globe broke the news, declaring, “We don’t see the U.S. just as Mr. Trump; the United States is not just the current ruling administration.” Think about what this means. Iran is a terrorist state responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Americans in Iraq, whose leaders hold rallies where thousands chant “Death to America!” Kerry was working with a sworn enemy of the United States to try to undermine the foreign policy of the elected president of the United States.

I thought we didn’t like Americans who colluded with our enemies.

Kerry’s meetings with Iran’s leaders were not isolated incidents, but part of a formal lobbying campaign that included phone calls with European Union leaders and meetings with the presidents of Germany and France in which, the Globe reports, he discussed “the details of sanctions and regional nuclear threats in both French and English.”

On Twitter, Trump suggested that Kerry might have violated the Logan Act, which says: “Any citizen of the United States … who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government … with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government … in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.” In fact, no one has been prosecuted under the Logan Act in more than 160 years, and most conservative legal scholars consider it unconstitutional.

Although what Kerry did was probably not illegal, it was deeply hypocritical. Recall that in 2015, when Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., and 46 other Republicans wrote to Iran’s leaders informing them of the Senate’s constitutional role in approving international agreements, Kerry was incensed. “My reaction to the letter was utter disbelief,” he said at the time. “To write leaders in the middle of a negotiation … is quite stunning … [and] ignores more than two centuries of precedent in the conduct of American foreign policy,” Kerry said, adding that he would never have interfered in that way “no matter what the issue and no matter who was president.”

What a difference three years make.

Cotton is a sitting United States senator. The Senate has a constitutional role in foreign policy. Kerry is a private citizen.

He has a constitutional role in nothing.

Kerry’s defenders compare him to Henry Kissinger and other former secretaries of state who regularly meet with world leaders.

“Secretary Kerry stays in touch with his former counterparts around the world, just like every previous Secretary of State,” a Kerry spokesman said. But Kissinger does not conduct rogue diplomacy. When he meets with foreign leaders, he usually coordinates with the White House, often carrying messages for the president, and then briefs administration officials afterward. Kerry did none of this.

This is not the first time Kerry has interfered in U.S. diplomacy as a private citizen. In 1970, he flew to Paris and met with the North Vietnamese while they were in the midst of negotiating the Paris Peace accords with Kissinger. Kerry admitted then that his actions were “on the borderline of private individuals negotiating.” What he did last month was not on the borderline.

Kerry would not have had to resort to rogue diplomacy if he had negotiated a better deal. The agreement he struck could not even muster the support of a simple majority in the Senate, much less the two-thirds majority needed to ratify a treaty. As Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb., correctly points out, the Obama administration “made a bad deal with Iran without support from Congress. … American foreign policy makes lasting progress when it is led by the President, approved by Congress, and presented honestly to the American people.” Kerry has no one to blame but himself for Trump’s decision to withdraw. And he certainly has no business colluding with America’s enemies against America’s president.

Marc A. Thiessen writes a weekly column for The Post on foreign and domestic policy and contributes to the PostPartisan blog.


Featuring:
Al KorelinTim Howe

Comments:
  1. On May 14, 2018 at 10:20 am,
    terra,laser says:

    I think the question of usury potentially has multiple parts: 1) is usury ethical and if so in what cases – between what people groups and types of transactions is usuary ethical (or not)? 2) in cases where usuary is ethical how can the corresponding interest rate be established by legitimate market forces?

    • On May 14, 2018 at 2:55 pm,
      Big Al says:

      Terra

      I would say that a very high (usurious) interest rate might be moral in the case of a great credit risk.

      • On May 14, 2018 at 3:05 pm,
        JohnK says:

        Actually Al, Higher rates encourage speculation rather than investment.
        Actually during the mortgage mess minorities were targeted because the banks new they could receive a higher rate.
        Also interesting enough during the 2008 fiasco the leading defaulter were women and the cause was medical bills.
        There is no morality in usury according to the Bible.

        • On May 14, 2018 at 3:10 pm,
          JohnK says:

          I will add that Military members were also targeted.
          To big to fail means nobody goes to jail.
          Fines are the cost of doing business.

        • On May 14, 2018 at 4:07 pm,
          terra,laser says:

          Is interesting that usury from one jew to another was forbidden – but not between jews and gentiles. To my knowledge, the jews are the only people group that have a different standard of usury between people within the tribe and those not in the tribe. One has to wonder if the early christians would have mirrored this principle and only assessed usury to non-christians, what would the world look like today. Probably would look very different.

          • On May 14, 2018 at 4:34 pm,
            Big Al says:

            It is my understanding that Muslims cannot engage in borrowing.

      • On May 14, 2018 at 3:59 pm,
        terra,laser says:

        I generally agree Al. One would think with some of all of our technological innovations (e.g. blockchain) – the ability to borrow and make loans could work better and be a more open market. Banks more of less have a monopoly (with the force of government backing them). With a central authority setting the core interest rates, small errors can cause global crashes as we have witnessed over the past centuries.

  2. On May 14, 2018 at 11:18 am,
    JohnK says:

    Mr.Korelin :

    I wish you the best with your wife.

    Usury goes much further than the credit card company’s.
    Your comment left me feeling much like I did when I received the letter saying a child
    molester was moving into my neighborhood.

    We as American’s have been fear mongered into believing that matters involving finances and banks are better left to someone else.
    You did nothing but re-enforce this with your comment “The only thing you can do”

    I know that I am the one who is not suppose to be here. I am one of many who with the aid of a computer have educated themselves about the bankers and the practice defined in the Bible as “USURY”
    Many think that divine wisdom established centuries ago does not apply to modern economics.
    I for one doesn’t.

    Proverbs 20:23
    The Lord detests double standards;
    He is not pleased by dishonest scales.

    • On May 14, 2018 at 3:43 pm,
      Big Al says:

      I was a bit simplistic in my comment perhaps. I personally stary aware from high interest rates simply by not borrowing at them.

      They could be left to “someone else because, the “someone else” is the entity loaning the money.

      Of course, I believe that divine wisdom established centuries ago should apply to modern economics. But then, The Ten Commandments should apply to all liffe

  3. On May 14, 2018 at 11:21 am,
    OOTB Jerry says:

    Falling into the trap of the money changers……..

    • On May 14, 2018 at 11:25 am,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      Proverbs 22:7
      “The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.”

      • On May 14, 2018 at 11:26 am,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        Romans 13:8-10 21st Century King James Version (KJ21)
        8 Owe no man anything, but to love one another, for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

        • On May 14, 2018 at 3:46 pm,
          Big Al says:

          I personally always try to live by that which is right from The Proclamation of the Kingdom..

    • On May 14, 2018 at 3:45 pm,
      Big Al says:

      Ament,OOTB

      • On May 14, 2018 at 3:47 pm,
        Big Al says:

        Of course I mean to say “Amen”

  4. On May 14, 2018 at 11:37 am,
    GH says:

    Good points all, Al.

    http://littleguyintheeye.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Bush-Kerry-skull-and-bones.jpg

    No one in a secret society should be able to hold public office.

    As for his current activities, in the context of the 2016 election and the political battle raging since the election, what is going on? A dispute between two factions of oligarchs? A puppet show for diversion and distraction?

    Separate topic, can anyone point to any top-notch analyses of the Iran deal? I’ve tended to be in favor, but would like to see both sides presented in a thorough, fact based way.

    • On May 14, 2018 at 3:48 pm,
      Big Al says:

      I believe that if you google it, you could read the original.

    • On May 14, 2018 at 3:50 pm,
      Big Al says:

      You point about “secret society” is well taken. But the again, is “Skull and Bones” really just another name for a club of sorts?

      • On May 15, 2018 at 3:24 am,
        GH says:

        If you’ve ever seen George Carlin’s skit, “It’s a club, and you and I ain’t in it!,” then I guess the term ‘club’ could apply. But it seems quite an understatement.

        Charlotte Iserbyt’s grandfather was skull and bones…father too, if I remember correctly.

        https://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_query=charlotte+iserbyt+skull+bones&search_sort=relevance&search_category=0&page=

        She is essential listening/reading for understanding what is wrong with education in the US as well, as she served, in an oppositional fashion, in the early days of the Dept. of Education, under Reagan.

      • On May 15, 2018 at 3:29 am,
        GH says:

        Antony Sutton, along the same lines.

        https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=anthony+sutton+skull+bones

        If you want to understand why many of us criticize the Bushes, understanding Skull and Bones does a lot to clear that up.

        (btw, yesterday I checked into the story that S&B, in the person of Prescott Bush and friends, robbed Geronimo’s grave. It’s a murky, but while it seems true they themselves told this story, it’s not clear they actually did it. But the thing needed to settle the issue has not been done–exhuming Geronimo’s remains at Fort Sill.)

  5. On May 14, 2018 at 11:38 am,
    OOTB Jerry says:
  6. On May 14, 2018 at 11:40 am,
    b says:

    Dont be so hard on the credit card companies at 20+%, they have expenses.
    Those payday loans are helpful to some people, they may not have anywhere else to go.

    Pawn shops only pay 5 cents on the dollar for items, is there a difference?

    I think people should simply accept there lot in life, besides, lifes not really a challenge until you have to sell blood,kidneys etc

    Maybe what we need is new laws concerning indentured service, such as a person works for someone for food and lodging for x number of years, food and lodging to be negotiated.
    A 1 kidney person might not command as much as a 2 kidney person.

    Indentured service might solve alot of issues. Just sayin.

    • On May 14, 2018 at 12:22 pm,
      GH says:

      Where I live the Colombian loansharks charge 20% per month!

      • On May 14, 2018 at 3:09 pm,
        b says:

        Could be the same in a few s.american countries.
        Ive heard that about Brazil.

        • On May 14, 2018 at 3:25 pm,
          JohnK says:

          The IMF is the head loan shark in Latin America.

          • On May 14, 2018 at 3:53 pm,
            Big Al says:

            I would guess that you probably don’t take advantage of their service.

          • On May 14, 2018 at 3:53 pm,
            Big Al says:

            I have never really thought about that, JohnK

          • On May 15, 2018 at 3:40 am,
            GH says:

            Here’s how it works, Al

            The World Bank hooks developing countries on debt by financing development projects that they know the country can’t afford.

            When the engineered default inevitably arrives, the IMF steps in and does what they call a ‘Structural Adjustment Plan’ (SAP), in which they do a good impression of squeezing blood from a turnip.

            Perkins, Confessions of an Economic Hitman
            https://archive.org/details/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hitman

            Chossudovsky, The Globalization of Poverty
            amazon.com/Globalization-Poverty-New-World-Order-ebook/dp/B009PA62OO/

            The IMF is one of the Bretton Woods institutions, along with the World Bank and GATT/WTO — instruments for prying open the world to the loving attentions of the Rothschilds & co.

            The chief US negotiator at the Bretton Woods conference, Harry Dexter White, was a communist.

            Yes, that’s right. The US point man for creating the current world monetary system, along with Keynes who was also odd, was a communist!!

          • On May 15, 2018 at 3:45 am,
            GH says:

            The genius of the racket:

            1- infrastructure projects that lead to default

            2 – structural adjustment program that among other things privatizes many natural resource projects, opening them to the highest international bidders

            3 – the infrastructure needed to extract the resources is already in place!

            Nifty.

            http://www.globalissues.org/article/3/structural-adjustment-a-major-cause-of-poverty

          • On May 15, 2018 at 4:08 am,
            GH says:

            Excellent point, JohnK, and exactly right.

            It looks like the IMF will be putting Argentina through the wringer again.

        • On May 15, 2018 at 3:51 am,
          GH says:

          b, I believe it is. And surely not only Colombians charge this rate. But as you can imagine, you need to be a bit feared to collect on interest like that, and they have that going for them.

          Nothing against Colombia–a lovely country, well worth visiting.

      • On May 14, 2018 at 3:52 pm,
        Big Al says:

        Interesting comment, b!

  7. On May 14, 2018 at 11:45 am,
    b says:

    Policy Analysis: Iran – The Washington Institute for Near East Policy
    http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/topic/iran

    No idea if this helps GH, the other day I googled “coldest tempeture” a friend of mine did too, google gave each of us a dif answer.

    I was thinkin maybe ur google didnt show you this.

    • On May 14, 2018 at 1:25 pm,
      GH says:

      I’m working through a list of a dozen or so. But I thought I’d check and see if anyone could steer me straight to a real gem.

      Here’s a list of Iran’s alleged state-sponsored terror from Israel-friendly Wikipedia:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state-sponsored_terrorism

      Even if all allegations are true, it doesn’t even amount to a hill of beans compared to the ZioAngloAmerican rampage.

    • On May 14, 2018 at 1:43 pm,
      GH says:

      Obama, the supposed Muslim Israel hater, was put into the presidency by Jews like the Pritzkers, and his nominations to the Supreme Court, three for three, were all Jews (which would have made the US Supreme Court 55% Jewish in a ~2% Jewish country).

      So why did he go against Israel and make the deal with Iran?

      My theory has been maybe because the time was not yet ripe for open conflict with Iran, so this was a way to stall it until Syria could be dealt with.

      The following quote from the Brookings Institute “Which Path to Persia” lends supports to that hypothesis, and futher suggests that it was a ploy to eventually paint the Iranians as intransigent in fulfilling their obligations.

      “…any military operation against Iran will likely be very unpopular around the world and require the proper international context—both to ensure the logistical support the operation would require and to minimize the blowback from it. The best way to minimize international opprobrium and maximize support (however, grudging or covert) is to strike only when there is a widespread conviction that the Iranians were given but then rejected a superb offer—one so good that only a regime determined to acquire nuclear weapons and acquire them for the wrong reasons would turn it down. Under those circumstances, the United States (or Israel) could portray its operations as taken in sorrow, not anger, and at least some in the international community would conclude that the Iranians “brought it on themselves” by refusing a very good deal.”

      https://journal-neo.org/2017/09/24/the-iran-nuclear-deal-leads-to-war-not-peace/

      • On May 14, 2018 at 3:14 pm,
        b says:

        Some people will believe it.
        People believe as they are told.
        At card tables for example I might say “I cant be bluffed. I call everything”
        The reasoning being that if just 1 person believes it your ahead by 1 person.
        It works.

    • On May 14, 2018 at 3:57 pm,
      Big Al says:

      thanks b, I just bookmarked that page

  8. On May 14, 2018 at 2:01 pm,
    JohnK says:

    John Kerry is another Political Snake. Ask yourself why do these people conduct themselves with total disregard for the Constitution and you will have to look no farther than 9/11.
    Before Mr Kerry’s appointment as Secretary of State he was one of the leading voices that was calling for a 9/11 investigation.Amazingly he became very quiet. I can’t say that I blame him as people that continually call for a legitimate investigation wined up dead.The question I wonder about John Kerry is what was he doing in Antarctica the day of the election?

    Every Politician in Washington is guilty of the 9/11 cover up.
    Those that say they can’t make an informed decision about 9/11 are just as bad as John Kerry and the rest of the snakes.

    Just for the record Mike Pompeo was not confirmed before he went to N.Korea. Last time I checked N. Korea was not our ally.
    The word for today is “Modern Constitutionalists” Those that decide what part of the Constitution they want to follow and when they want to do it.
    You and I, we’re just criminals

    • On May 14, 2018 at 3:32 pm,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      I have to agree with you on your statement on congress….and 9/11

      • On May 15, 2018 at 4:12 am,
        GH says:

        Another great comment, JohnK. Full agreement.

  9. On May 14, 2018 at 2:38 pm,
    irishtony says:

    I anthony mc dade , Hold the American ” Z bastards “100% responsible for whats happening in GAZA.
    https://www.rt.com/news/426617-gaza-protests-embassy-jerusalem/

  10. On May 14, 2018 at 2:55 pm,
    irishtony says:

    I think it’s fair to say , that Trump should be draged from the white house & hanged from the nearest tree , for betraying the American people , by becoming a pawn of the Zionest anti Christ club.

    • On May 14, 2018 at 4:02 pm,
      Big Al says:

      At this time, I completely disagree with you about President Trump.

    • On May 15, 2018 at 5:04 am,
      GH says:

      Thank you for making me look moderate, irishtony! 😉

  11. On May 14, 2018 at 3:33 pm,
    b says:

    I think we might have to accept the fact we serve Israel.

    • On May 14, 2018 at 3:36 pm,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      Every knee will bow,……..and it is not to Israel……..

      • On May 14, 2018 at 4:30 pm,
        Big Al says:

        Amen, OOTB!

        • On May 14, 2018 at 5:18 pm,
          terra,laser says:

          Amen X 2

    • On May 14, 2018 at 3:41 pm,
      JohnK says:

      No b, We do not serve Israel. Some of us are servants of God.
      We are the truth seekers.
      By the way, how are the pot stocks doing?

      • On May 14, 2018 at 4:30 pm,
        Big Al says:

        Yes, JohnK, we are servants of God

    • On May 14, 2018 at 4:29 pm,
      Big Al says:

      I don’t agree with that, b.

      • On May 14, 2018 at 5:49 pm,
        b says:

        I know you guys dont agree.

        Yet, the christian nation of “america” sure as heck serves Israel.
        I guess all the american vassals do too.

        “Christians United for Israel”,
        “Christians for israel”
        “Christians | Support Israel”
        “Christians for Israel Canada”
        “Christians for Israel International”

        (Dif web sites not posted)

        I dont think these christians mind their countries serving Israel.

        Hagee alone has 2.2million followers that state clearly they serve Israel.

        Hard to believe those listed christians dont understand they serve Israel.
        Especially when their country blatantly does.

        Personally, I think Israel should be boycotted, no boats or planes to or from etc.

        Ya thats gonna happen. lol

        John
        I havnt been into pot stocks for awhile now.
        canopy growth might do something here soon, they moving to the ny exchange…. or expanding to.

        • On May 14, 2018 at 5:55 pm,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          Matthew 7:21-23 New King James Version (NKJV)
          I Never Knew You
          21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness

          • On May 14, 2018 at 5:58 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Matthew 7:16-20 King James Version (KJV)
            16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

          • On May 14, 2018 at 6:01 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Hagee……is still running a 501c3……….Tax exempt organization, authorized by the good old USA……….

          • On May 14, 2018 at 6:02 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Mega Church , Mega Bucks…….check and see if his rolex still is running….lol

          • On May 14, 2018 at 7:21 pm,
            JohnK says:

            I’m still learning Jerry so I can’t really comment. I am really looking forward to learning The New Testament.

        • On May 14, 2018 at 6:03 pm,
          JohnK says:

          b:
          I had no idea what was really going on here in the U.S until I read the book Mr Temple suggested.
          Turns out the Zio Christians are ” Dispensationalists”
          They believe what is happening now is according to Scripture and the process started after WW2. They believe the events now will usher in the second coming of Christ.
          Israel gave Jerry Falwell a lear jet for starters.

          • On May 14, 2018 at 6:34 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Not every Christian, …that believes in dispensation of grace……is a ZioChristian…
            Hood winked, and hijacked………some might be, if they listen to TBN, and prosperity preachers…………..jmo

          • On May 14, 2018 at 7:26 pm,
            JohnK says:

            I’m still learning Jerry so I can’t really comment.I am really looking forward to learning The New Testament.
            I really liked the verse you posted from Galatians.
            There is neither Jew or Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female:for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
            Amen

          • On May 15, 2018 at 4:14 am,
            GH says:

            Which book is that, JohnK?

          • On May 15, 2018 at 4:30 am,
            GH says:

            I like that — ZioChristians. Easier to say than Christian Zionists, and more accurate too.

            A few leads on them (haven’t read/viewed all yet, working through them):

            Benjamin Netanyahu in his book, “A Place Among The nations: Israel and the World
            “, recognizes American William Eugene Blackstone (1841–1935) as one of the most
            outstanding examples of a Christian Zionist.

            http://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1055&context=pretrib_arch

          • On May 15, 2018 at 4:32 am,
            GH says:

            Merlin Miller, West Point grad (I know, that’s no guarantee of quality, but it means something):

            “The writing and promotion of “Scofield’s Reference Bible” was a massive effort to subvert true Christianity to serve Zionist/NWO interests, instead. Through subtle but false reinterpretations of the Bible, the evangelical Christian community has come to unquestionably support the Israeli “state” and perpetual war in the Middle-East, rather than the teachings of Jesus, the Prince of Peace.

            Throughout the 20th Century and with incredible support from the Rothchild controlled Oxford Press, various editions of Scofield’s Bible would actually create a new religion, Christian Zionism (Judeo-Christianity), altering words and meanings through deceptive footnotes.”

            https://politicalvelcraft.org/2016/03/29/christian-zionism-is-a-monumental-lie-and-illegal-racket/

          • On May 15, 2018 at 4:35 am,
            GH says:

            “Christian Zionism: The Tragedy & The Turning, Part I (Full 29 Min. Version)”

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv-CdTC-StQ

          • On May 15, 2018 at 4:38 am,
            GH says:


            The Jerusalem Declaration on Christian Zionism is a joint statement issued by a number of Palestinian Christian churches dated 22 August 2006. It rejects Christian Zionism, concluding that it is a “false teaching that corrupts the biblical message of love, justice, and reconciliation.”

            The signatories of the Declaration were Patriarch Michel Sabbah, then Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem (a Catholic), Archbishop Swerios Malki Mourad, of the Syriac Orthodox Archdiocese of Jerusalem, Bishop Riah Abu El-Assal, then Anglican Bishop in Jerusalem of the Episcopal Church in Jerusalem and the Middle East, and Bishop Munib Younan, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Jordan and the Holy Land.

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Declaration_on_Christian_Zionism

            The Jerusalem Declaration on Christian Zionism:


            Christian Zionism is a modern theological and political movement that embraces the most extreme ideological positions of Zionism, thereby becoming detrimental to a just peace within Palestine and Israel. The Christian Zionist programme provides a worldview where the Gospel is identified with the ideology of empire, colonialism and militarism. In its extreme form, it places an emphasis on apocalyptic events leading to the end of history rather than living Christ’s love and justice today.

            We categorically reject Christian Zionist doctrines as false teaching that corrupts the biblical message of love, justice and reconciliation.

            We further reject the contemporary alliance of Christian Zionist leaders and organizations with elements in the governments of Israel and the United States that are presently imposing their unilateral pre-emptive borders and domination over Palestine. This inevitably leads to unending cycles of violence that undermine the security of all peoples of the Middle East and the rest of the world.

            We reject the teachings of Christian Zionism that facilitate and support these policies as they advance racial exclusivity and perpetual war rather than the gospel of universal love, redemption and reconciliation taught by Jesus Christ. Rather than condemn the world to the doom of Armageddon we call upon everyone to liberate themselves from the ideologies of militarism and occupation. Instead, let them pursue the healing of the nations!

            We call upon Christians in Churches on every continent to pray for the Palestinian and Israeli people, both of whom are suffering as victims of occupation and militarism. These discriminative actions are turning Palestine into impoverished ghettos surrounded by exclusive Israeli settlements. The establishment of the illegal settlements and the construction of the Separation Wall on confiscated Palestinian land undermines the viability of a Palestinian state as well as peace and security in the entire region.

            We call upon all Churches that remain silent, to break their silence and speak for reconciliation with justice in the Holy Land.

            Therefore, we commit ourselves to the following principles as an alternative way:

            We affirm that all people are created in the image of God. In turn they are called to honor the dignity of every human being and to respect their inalienable rights.

            We affirm that Israelis and Palestinians are capable of living together within peace, justice and security.

            We affirm that Palestinians are one people, both Muslim and Christian. We reject all attempts to subvert and fragment their unity.

            We call upon all people to reject the narrow world view of Christian Zionism and other ideologies that privilege one people at the expense of others.

            We are committed to non-violent resistance as the most effective means to end the illegal occupation in order to attain a just and lasting peace.

            With urgency we warn that Christian Zionism and its alliances are justifying colonization, apartheid and empire-building.

            God demands that justice be done. No enduring peace, security or reconciliation is possible without the foundation of justice. The demands of justice will not disappear. The struggle for justice must be pursued diligently and persistently but non-violently.

            “What does the Lord require of you, to act justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.” (Micah 6:8)

            This is where we take our stand. We stand for justice. We can do no other. Justice alone guarantees a peace that will lead to reconciliation with a life of security and prosperity for all the peoples of our Land. By standing on the side of justice, we open ourselves to the work of peace – and working for peace makes us children of God.

            “God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.” (2 Cor 5:19)
            Riah Abu El-Assal
            Swerios Malki Mourad
            His Beatitude Michel Sabbah
            His Grace Bishop Dr. Munib Younan

            https://www.voltairenet.org/article144310.html

          • On May 15, 2018 at 4:43 am,
            GH says:

            My opinion in a nutshell:

            Ziochristians are a product of Zionist financing.

          • On May 15, 2018 at 4:45 am,
            JohnK says:

            The book was “Forcing Gods Hand” by Grace Halsell.

          • On May 15, 2018 at 4:55 am,
            GH says:

            Last one,

            “At least one in four American Christians surveyed recently by Christianity Today magazine said that they believe it is their biblical responsibility to support the nation of Israel. This view is known as Christian Zionism. The Pew Research Center put the figure at 63 per cent among white evangelicals.”

            I believe that about 80% of Americans consider themselves Christian, so if one in four is a Ziochristian, then that’s roughly 326,000,000 * .8 * .25 = 65 million Ziochristians, which, in my opinion, is a perversion of Christianity.

          • On May 15, 2018 at 4:58 am,
            GH says:

            White evangelicals, duped into the destruction of their own culture & religion.

          • On May 15, 2018 at 5:10 am,
            GH says:

            Thanks for the ref, JohnK.

            I saw the movie “The Rapture” in about 1994, which was when I first became aware of this doctrine.

            In 1996 I worked a temp job for about ten days with a born again Christian who subscribed to the Rapture doctrine.

            To me, it sounds like a death cult, anxiously awaiting the end of the world.

          • On May 15, 2018 at 5:10 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            John….If, you are learning the New Test……just a suggestion., remember Matthew , Mark, Luke and John, are written to the Jew, ..Jesus came for the Jews , and these writings, when reading should be taken with that in mind.
            Romans thur. Philemons is written to the Christians……which is the Dispensation of GRACE, which happened when the Jews, rejected Christ, and hung him on the cross.
            LAW and GRACE is the big difference.
            Acts…is a transition book going from Law to the Jew, to the Grace for ALL(gentile and Jew) Acts..breaks down the time periods…..After the Stoning of Stephen(a Jew)the separation begins concerning the setting aside of the jews which rejected Jesus (set aside for awhile), and the bringing in of the gentiles through grace, which is Paul’s message.

          • On May 15, 2018 at 5:11 am,
            GH says:

            oops, meant to say, “In 1996 I worked a temp job for about ten days with a born again Christian who subscribed to the Rapture doctrine. We had lots of time to talk while we worked, so he gave me the full scoop, first-person.”

          • On May 15, 2018 at 5:15 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            The first thing a christian has to be careful of is…….FALSE TEACHINGS…….

          • On May 15, 2018 at 5:20 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            1 Thessalonians 4…….read all first, then
            FOR IF WE BELIEVE …14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

            15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

            16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

            17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

            18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

          • On May 15, 2018 at 5:22 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Where the RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD……..IF, you Believe……and have FAITH,

          • On May 15, 2018 at 5:25 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Just remember………Your time here on EARTH, is temporary…….ETERNITY is FOR EVER,
            Your time on earth is like a snowflake on a river, gone in a flash.

          • On May 15, 2018 at 5:34 am,
            JohnK says:

            Which if you think about it; we as American tax payers give Israel foreign aid so in effect you and I bought Jerry Falwell a lear jet.

          • On May 15, 2018 at 5:39 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Christian Zionists have shown varying degrees of enthusiasm for implementing six basic political convictions that arise from their ultra-literal and fundamentalist theology:

            ___*******The belief that the Jews remain God’s chosen people******(NOT IN THIS TIME PERIOD)….This is the PROBLEM …) leads Christian Zionists to seek to bless Israel in material ways. However, this also invariably results in the uncritical endorsement of and justification for Israel’s racist and apartheid policies, in the media, among politicians and through solidarity tours to Israel.

          • On May 15, 2018 at 6:02 am,
            JohnK says:

            Thank-you Jerry for the New Testament guide.
            Thank-you G.H for your posts as well.

          • On May 15, 2018 at 6:42 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Iron sharpening Iron………. John……… 🙂

          • On May 15, 2018 at 7:10 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            2 Timothy 2:15 King James Version (KJV)
            15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

  12. On May 14, 2018 at 8:13 pm,
    b says:

    “[W]e don’t think the president of that regime is in control,” Assad told the paper, referring to Trump. “We all believe that the deep state, the real state, is in control, or is in control of every president, and that is nothing new. It has always been so in the United States, at least during the last 40 years, at least since Nixon, maybe before, but it’s becoming starker and starker, and the starkest case is Trump.”

    Russia insider

  13. On May 15, 2018 at 8:38 am,
    GH says:

    Natalie Portman, an example for Jews and Gentiles alike:

    https://original.antiwar.com/Reese_Erlich/2018/05/11/natalie-portman-boycotts-israeli-prize-right-wing-goes-ballistic/

    “While studying at Harvard, she became a research assistant for right-wing Zionist Alan Dershowitz. She directed and starred in a feature film presenting the Jewish side of the 1948 war that established the Israeli state.

    So Portman is an unlikely candidate for vilification by conservative Jews. Here’s what happened.

    Last November officials of the Genesis award, often referred to as Israel’s Nobel, announced that Portman had won this year’s prize. The award is partially funded by the prime minister’s office. In response Portman said, “I am proud of my Israeli roots and Jewish heritage. They are crucial parts of who I am.”

    Then in late April she refused to attend the Genesis award ceremony in Jerusalem. In an Instagram post, Portman wrote, “I chose not to attend because I did not want to appear as endorsing Benjamin Netanyahu, who was to be giving a speech at the ceremony.””

    • On May 15, 2018 at 9:07 am,
      GH says:

      One thing on which I agree with the Zionists: nationalism.

  14. On May 15, 2018 at 9:57 am,
    GH says:

    [Zionazis,] Killing Gaza, by Chris Hedges:

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49417.htm

    • On May 15, 2018 at 10:05 am,
      GH says:

      Killing Gaza

      Starting Tuesday, May 15, “Killing Gaza” can be seen at Vimeo On Demand:

      https://vimeo.com/ondemand/killinggaza

      “Cohen and Blumenthal, who is the author of the book “Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel,” one of the best accounts of modern Israel, began filming the documentary Aug. 15, 2014. Palestinian militias, armed with little more than light weapons, had just faced Israeli tanks, artillery, fighter jets, infantry units and missiles in a 51-day Israeli assault that left 2,314 Palestinians dead and 17,125 injured. Some 500,000 Palestinians were displaced and about 100,000 homes were destroyed or damaged. The 2014 assault, perhaps better described as a massacre, was one of eight massacres that Israel has carried out since 2004 against the 2 million Palestinians in Gaza, over half of whom are children. Israel, which refers to these periodic military assaults as “mowing the lawn,” seeks to make existence in Gaza so difficult that mere survival consumes most of the average Palestinian’s time, resources and energy.”

      ” “For 51 days, Israel bombarded Gaza with the full might of its artillery,” Blumenthal says. “According to the Israeli military’s estimates, 23,410 artillery shells and 2.9 million bullets were fired into Gaza during the war.”

      That’s one and a half bullets for every man, woman and child in the Gaza Strip.”

      “Israel intentionally targeted power plants, schools, medical clinics, apartment complexes, whole villages. Robert Piper, the United Nations Coordinator for Humanitarian Aid and Development Activities, said in 2017 that Gaza had “a long time ago” passed the “unlivability threshold.” Youth unemployment is at 60 percent. Suicide is epidemic. Traditional social structures and mores are fracturing, with divorce rising from 2 percent to 40 percent and girls and women increasingly being prostituted, something once seen only rarely in Gaza. Seventy percent of the 2 million Gazans survive on humanitarian aid packages of sugar, rice, milk and cooking oil. The U.N. estimates that 97 percent of Gaza’s water is contaminated. Israel’s destruction of Gaza’s sewage treatment plant means raw sewage is pumped into the sea, contaminating the beach, one of the very few respites for a trapped population. The Israelis did not even spare Gaza’s little zoo, slaughtering some 45 animals in the 2014 assault.”

      • On May 15, 2018 at 10:06 am,
        GH says:

        A little ‘over the top’?

        • On May 15, 2018 at 10:20 am,
          GH says:

          Max Blumenthal: “With the opening of the US embassy in Jerusalem and the American exit from the Iran deal, Netanyahu has achieved two of his biggest priorities under Trump. It is worth noting that Trump was also a beneficiary of donations from the same Likudnik billionaires ‒ Sheldon Adelson, Bernard Marcus, and Paul Singer ‒ that have supported Netanyahu’s political empire.”

          The main good thing I see about Trump, other than not being Hillary, is that he is such an over-the-top A-Hole that with any luck he will discredit Israel and many other things he supports.

          Trump is also an environmental disaster.

          https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/05/11/trump-is-a-disaster/

          • On May 15, 2018 at 12:03 pm,
            GH says:

            Actually, I’m not sure about ‘many’. I spend more time digging into history than following the daily circus.

            Trump’s defects, which I feared from the start, are his ties to Wall Street, Zionists, and the MIC.

          • On May 15, 2018 at 12:16 pm,
            GH says:

            I shouldn’t generalize to all Israelis, of course. What I mean to say is that Israel is a society with some very serious mental health issues. But then, so is the US.

      • On May 15, 2018 at 11:56 am,
        GH says:

        How many different opinions are there on the fact that they call it ‘mowing the lawn’, and what this indicates about Israelis?

  15. On May 15, 2018 at 9:58 am,
    BDC says:

    Usury is bad. Compound Interest is EVIL.

  16. On May 15, 2018 at 11:50 am,
    Chartster says:

    What if moving the embassy proves to be the right move?
    What if Israel just exists and doesn’t want more land?
    What if Palistine gets a life and stops wanting war?
    What if the Iranian people take back control of Iran?
    What if all the other M E countries want that?
    What if we actually do see peace and prosperity in the M E ?

    What if Trump is actually working hard to make all this happen?

    • On May 15, 2018 at 12:04 pm,
      GH says:

      I’ll hold out a faint hope. Why not?

      • On May 15, 2018 at 12:05 pm,
        GH says:

        But meanwhile, if it walks like a duck, I’ll call it a duck.

    • On May 15, 2018 at 1:39 pm,
      JohnK says:

      Chartster:
      1 in every 4 people in the world are Muslim. The Al-Aqsa Mosque (The Dome of the Rock)
      is exactly where the Third Temple must be built for the second coming of Jesus.
      Now tell me ezactly what President Trump’s solution for this is?

      • On May 15, 2018 at 3:48 pm,
        Chartster says:

        I don’t know, John.
        What do you think?

        • On May 15, 2018 at 4:07 pm,
          JohnK says:

          Chartster:
          I did not know this myself until yesterday.
          Life is complicated.I take things one day at a time .
          I thank God for every day.

        • On May 16, 2018 at 12:24 pm,
          GH says:

          It would appear Trump couldn’t care less. Jewish Supremacist Jared Kushner has his ear.

  17. On May 15, 2018 at 12:16 pm,
    Chartster says:

    ..right.., the duck walking around the draining swamp😉

  18. On May 15, 2018 at 2:01 pm,
    JohnK says:

    GH:
    I like Paul Craig Roberts but your latest post Mr Roberts is way off base.
    I have spent the better part of my Adult life in Alaska so I am commenting from a
    point of having “been there done that.”
    Alaska is not one big refuge,there are people that actually live there.
    I would like to ask Mr Roberts how much time he has spent in Alaska seeing he now is
    saying drilling for oil in the ANWR is a bad idea.
    Alaska runs on oil and oil is in it’s DNA. I always become very frustrated at people’s ignorance when it comes to Alaska.
    Over and over I hear how people care more about some barren piece of tundra and a Caribou herd more than they do about the people who actually live there.
    The unemployment rate is at 90% in most of rural Alaska. Substance abuse numbers are off the charts. These people deserve a chance to enjoy the economic prosperity God has endowed them with.

  19. On May 16, 2018 at 7:54 am,
    the co van says:

    Kerry was a traitor during the Vietnam War, his colors haven’t changed. Count on him to align himself with America’s enemies. He along with John McCain betrayed the MIA’s in the early 90’s during congressional hearings.
    Viet Vet

  20. On May 16, 2018 at 8:19 am,
    JohnK says:

    Along with John Kerry and John McCain you can throw in President Gerald Ford and President Jimmy Carter who pardoned the draft dodgers.I find it interesting that people have accepted living amongst draft dodgers and profess to have
    such disdain for those who have come into this Country illegally.
    Nothing but a bunch of hypocrites I tell ya.