Weekend Show – Sat 19 May, 2018

Hour 2 – KER Politics – Europe vs USA

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  • Segment 5: Lets look at the violence in the Middle East realistically say Big Al and Jim McKinney.
  • Segment 6: How will the current relationship between Europe and the U.S. affect investors. Larry Amernick opines.
  • Segment 7: Chris Temple raises some meaningful concerns resulting from the current actions of some if not most of the current European leaders.
  • Segment 8: We continue our discussion of potential effects from Europe for investors.

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  1. On May 19, 2018 at 4:20 am,
    irishtony says:

    YIPEEEEE….I’m first in on this thread….Skeeta beat me to it on the other one, sod it.
    Today in the UK there are two big YAWNS taking place…That weading & A football final.
    I’m bored, think i will go & count slugs in the garden.You lot have a great weekend.

    • On May 19, 2018 at 4:23 am,
      irishtony says:

      Sorry..weding, or is it wedding……oh who cares.

      • On May 19, 2018 at 4:58 am,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        I am sure you were looking forward to, just weeding the garden…….. 🙂

        • On May 19, 2018 at 9:08 am,
          Big Al says:

          That’s now my game OOTB!

        • On May 19, 2018 at 2:11 pm,
          Ebolan says:

          His time is much better spent in the garden. And if you can’t have a garden you could always go with sprouts. Today I started some mung beans and flax seeds, plus some alfalfa, red clover, broccoli and red mustard seeds. So in about 6 to 12 days I will have some good eats plus sprouts are super foods when it comes to nutrients.

          • On May 19, 2018 at 2:30 pm,
            Ebolan says:

            Oops…yellow mustard seeds and red radish, not to be confused with Martha Radish. 🙂

          • On May 19, 2018 at 4:59 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Ebo……….you are blooming with information…….. 🙂

          • On May 19, 2018 at 9:11 pm,
            Ebolan says:

            I tell you Jerry, you really ought to try sprouting. It’s so brain dead easy even I can do it and I can’t even grow weeds!

            I started out with it just because I like to try to grow things although I have a black thumb but when I read about the nutrient content of sprouts I upped it a notch. I must have tried 30 different kinds of sprouts the last few years and most grow quickly and easily, although I do got to admit to feeling guilty about eating the little fellows. 🙂

          • On May 20, 2018 at 6:21 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            We did sprouts about 20 yrs. ago……..My wife still does the plant thing……Growing up on a small farm, ..I was close to nature, and reallyl hated picking beans and corn in the summer, plus the whole idea of hoeing the garden, while I wanted to play, soured my spirit on gardening……..Now, I do like your idea of sprouting, on a small plot, …… 🙂

          • On May 20, 2018 at 7:07 am,
            bonzo barzini says:

            Broccoli is a super food, but broccoli sprouts are 30 time more nutricious.

      • On May 19, 2018 at 9:01 am,
        Ebolan says:

        Hah, we go the better on that, IT! Now, you Brits get to pay for the housing, feeding, etc. of Megan Markle. You picked up one more migrant welfare recipient. Congratulations.

        • On May 19, 2018 at 9:09 am,
          Big Al says:

          What an interesting statement, Eddy!

        • On May 19, 2018 at 10:52 am,
          irishtony says:

          Ebolan………Nice one….HaHa.

      • On May 19, 2018 at 9:07 am,
        Big Al says:

        I watched a movie about the couple and they are certainly interesting people. She is very unique and Harry is the same.

        • On May 19, 2018 at 9:28 am,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          I think he married a momma………she is 39 , and he is 32…….and she did say she would not serve him………lol

          • On May 19, 2018 at 9:46 pm,
            Big Al says:

            Pretty good looking mama!

    • On May 19, 2018 at 9:05 am,
      Big Al says:

      Congratulations, Mr. Irish.

      Count slugs? Oh well.

      I have some interesting thoughts about the wedding. Tradition is an important thing and England has a lot of it. English and Irish people also have a lot of class Take yourself for example and let’s consider Mr. Churchill. Look at English and yes of course, Irish literature. Some of the best in the world.

  2. On May 19, 2018 at 7:18 am,
    Nigel says:

    I think the problem with Israel/the Palestinians is neither side will give an inch so there is no solution. On the one hand I believe Israel must stop building settlements on occupied land which is clearly inflammatory and on the other hand the Palestinians desperately need to get a government that can negotiate with a true will to end this mess. I doubt either will happen. I also just read that Iraq has just elected a government (under the influence of Moqtada Sadr – although he can’t be prime minister) which is anti US and also anti Iran, so who knows how that will turn out. Basically, this ME mess isn’t going to go away and I don’t think foreign powers’ interventions make it any better. Finally, if I hear anything more on the ‘wedding’ I will join Irish counting slugs – or maybe snails in the garden

    • On May 19, 2018 at 9:11 am,
      Big Al says:

      Thank you for your comment, Nigel. Your thoughts are mine exactly!

      So, is anyone in England excited about the weddings other than the participants

      • On May 19, 2018 at 9:52 pm,
        Big Al says:

        Nigel,

        Can your recommend any books telling the Palestinian side of the story? One perhaps that you have read

  3. On May 19, 2018 at 7:23 am,
    lpr says:

    I can barely keep up with all the topics that come up on this site!…..Thank you Al…..I am here but more or less following due to time constraints….

    • On May 19, 2018 at 9:12 am,
      Big Al says:

      Your thoughts are always welcome lpr.

      Thank you.

  4. On May 19, 2018 at 7:26 am,
    lpr says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6tuQoXhOPQ

    Possibly the worlds most powerful Imam who wants to totally reform Islam theocracy and make it a peaceful religion…I hope he is not a lip service enlisted other view working for the Muslim brotherhood

  5. On May 19, 2018 at 7:54 am,
    GH says:

    On Israel/Palestine, it seems to me that Al & his guests, versus commenters, are largely just talking past each other.

    Israel a democracy? Implying that Arabs/Palestinians in Israel have the same rights as Jews?

    https://forward.com/news/israel/335292/48-of-israeli-jews-back-expulsion-or-transfer-of-arabs-new-pew-survey-says/

    • On May 19, 2018 at 8:46 am,
      GH says:

      http://www.ameu.org/Current-Issue/Current-Issue/2018-Volume-51/Apartheid-Israel.aspx

      Jonathan Cooke is one of the better Israel commenters that I have come across.

      • On May 19, 2018 at 9:10 am,
        GH says:

        Why there are few Christians left in the holy town of Bethlehem

        https://www.jonathan-cook.net/2017-12-25/christians-left-bethlehem/

        “The town now has access to little more than a tenth of its original territory, with homes cut off from farmland, water sources and historic landmarks. A host of ever-expanding Jewish settlements around Bethlehem have been gorging on the rich pickings of their imprisoned neighbours.

        Bethlehem’s despondency was heightened this month by the decision of US President Donald Trump to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. That declaration has sparked repeated clashes between Bethlehem’s youth and Israeli occupation forces.

        Traditionally, the fates of these cities, the two primary destinations for pilgrims, were intimately tied. Before the construction of the wall, they were only a short drive apart. Now Jerusalem is almost unreachable for Bethlehem’s inhabitants, while Bethlehem itself has become an increasingly unappealing prospect for most outsiders.

        Today, Bethlehem’s Christians make up only 13 per cent of its population and more than three-quarters blame Israel’s blockade for the exodus.

        In the only way they could, Bethlehem’s church leaders exacted a small revenge for Mr Trump’s Jerusalem declaration. They closed their doors to Mike Pence, the US vice-president and a pious Christian evangelical.”

        • On May 19, 2018 at 9:21 am,
          Big Al says:

          GH, I am starting to feel that I should seriously rethink my comments about all of the Middle East because I have never been there as seen things for myself.

          Your comment has made me stop and think that I need to get stories from the “other side” i.e. people who have actually been there.

          • On May 19, 2018 at 10:10 am,
            GH says:

            I haven’t been there myself either, Al. And while I think that can be very useful, it doesn’t necessarily help. The key, for me, is finding the rare information source that is honest, fact-based, and provides a contradiction-free narrative.

            I lived in Caracas, Venezuela for nine months, and left just as confused as when I arrived, in spite of my efforts to understand. ‘Liars on all sides’ was about the extent of my insight.

            I do think it is useful for all of us to periodically step back from our own views and try on a different perspective. I find your and Jim’s views useful in that regard, as they force me to go back and do more investigation.

            I am not against a nation for Jews. But boy have they bungled it.

          • On May 19, 2018 at 11:06 am,
            GH says:

            With regard to the theme of #fakenews, I would like to expand further on my above sentence:

            The key, for me, is finding the rare information source that is honest, fact-based, and provides a contradiction-free narrative…free of both internal contradictions and external ones. I.e., the details of the story all fit together, and they link up to my understanding of the larger world without a hitch.

            Context is paramount.

            What is the nature of knowledge? How do we know what we know? A few analogies:

            A ‘fact’ is like the tip of an iceberg, with a mass of underlying supporting facts that lead to it. Or the top of a pyramid.

            A 3D web of interdependent ‘facts’ that make up our reality is a better analogy, but harder to visualize.

            Or, say our understanding of reality is a knit sweater, and a ‘fake fact’ is a loose thread. If you pull on it (investigate), how much of the sweater will come unraveled and have to be remade? Many prefer not to pull the loose thread, and rather live with the resulting cognitive dissonance.

            I emphasize a contradiction-free narrative because, being scientifically trained, I understand how difficult certainty is. If it is elusive in the sciences, it is very much more so in politics. For many incidents of key importance, evidence is lacking and may always be lacking.

            But when one has sufficient CONTEXT, one may begin to construct various hypotheses to explain the apparent facts at hand; in my experience, with sufficient context, the number of possible narratives rapidly shrinks, and one can get a pretty good sense of the likely truth.

            The importance of context explains why American (and, I believe, European) youth are being educated to be increasingly ignorant of their own history. The less context they have, the more malleable, both as individuals and as a culture.

            Likewise, mass media provides insufficient context for readers/viewers to understand controversial topics, and typically balances any accurate information with a counter opinion that leaves one confused, with no memorable conclusion to draw, and bored of the matter–exactly what oligarchs want, an apathetic and disengaged populace.

            “The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.”
            ~George Orwell

        • On May 19, 2018 at 1:11 pm,
          CFS says:

          The above statements are not true regarding Bethlehem having been controlled by jews, and jews building settlements and taking the best farmland. LIES,
          If farmland used by Jews looks better than land used by arabs, it is simply because the Jews work hard, desalinate sea water and most of the arab “farmers” are either lazy or underfunded.
          When you consider that aid to Palestine was funnelled by Arafat to his own extravagance and for katusa rockets and arms, you will understand WHY the arab land is not very good.
          The Jews INVEST money (aid); the arabs have not.

          God’s greatest joke is, of course, the
          ‘promised land” is some of the crappiest land on earth.

          I have been to Bethlehem several times.
          Travelling along the coast, 30/40 years ago there was little difference between Israel and Palestine land. Today, you can easily see the difference what a number of decades of hard work has made.

      • On May 19, 2018 at 9:17 am,
        Big Al says:

        As soon as I finish going over all the comments you can be sure I will go to each of these links. Thanks

        • On May 19, 2018 at 12:40 pm,
          GH says:

          I’ve been focusing on much more regarding Israel and world Jewry than just the Palestine issue, and I admit that I still have a lot to learn about the detailed history.

          It’s so key to find good sources of info. I’ll probably pick this book up on my next visit to the US, in order to get a source that hopefully I can trust to give a fair account of the bad side of the Palestinians behavior, and where Israeli Jews are in the right.

          https://ahtribune.com/world/north-africa-south-west-asia/palestine/2209-zionist-vision-big-lies.html

          Overall, obviously, my sympathy is with the Palestinians, because nothing justifies the state of affairs that I have following for about 17 years now. But few things are black and white.

          I’m curious if, with sufficient understanding of the history, a reasonable solution could be found. One to which the rest of the world, if not Jews and Palestinians, could agree.

          How about this as a starting point for reasonable negotiations for a secure nation where Jews can live in peace (wherever that might eventually be negotiated to be)?

          1. A truth and reconciliation process–not just for the Palestine issue, but for at least the last couple centuries while the Rothschilds and associates have orchestrated wars, assassinations, financial manias and crashes, and a criminal global fiat currency system. Also for the war of cultural subversion that they have waged on Europe and the US.

          2) Dismantling of the fradulent global fiat currency cartel.

          3) Dismantling of the mass media cartel.

          4) Oaths of loyalty to country of citizenship; if first loyalty is to another country, citizenship should not be granted. Oaths taken in vain to be severely punished. Certainly no dual citizens in government positions.

    • On May 19, 2018 at 9:12 am,
      b says:

      Your right GH.

      I wonder if anyone actually bothers looking at the history of the creation of Israel?
      Other than Bob.

      The 70th anniversary of Deir Yassin just happened….no mention, I didnt see it on the news.
      No flags at half mast, no ceremony,no remembrance.

      There are hundreds of other Palestinian villages destroyed by Israel.
      That includes every man woman and child.

      Those that support Israel dont feel its worth even bothering to mention, but ya gotta wonder if the Arabs remember their families.

      I wonder if those memories have something to do with the Palestinian people being upset with Israel.

      Is it possible we find no solution unless we see justice?

      With so many christians supporting this genocide I cant see how any justice will ever come about.

      The only solution might be everyone that remembers dying off.

      Im boycotting Israel, its all I can do.

      Good grief, they just wounded over 2000 people, women and kids too and murdered over 60.
      Its the 60 that were “misses”, the Israelis have a shoot to wound policy, they aim for the groin.
      The theory is it hurts their economy.

      • On May 19, 2018 at 9:24 am,
        Big Al says:

        b, my comment to GH is true. I will be looking an listening to more of the other side.

      • On May 19, 2018 at 1:22 pm,
        CFS says:

        Did you see the Arabs throwing Molotov cocktails at the Israeli defense forces?

        What, on earth do you expect an Israeli soldier to do at that kind of provocation?

        BBC heavily censors Palestinian attacks. I have not been in the US, but I assume most are not seeing the full truth.

        Did you see wine bottles full of gasoline with lit rags being swung on strings to give then extra range? It was shown on AL Jazeera. Was it shown in the US?

        (And you wonder why the Jews control arms and explosives from going into Palestinian controlled territory? Give me a break!

        • On May 19, 2018 at 2:08 pm,
          GH says:

          How many IDF personnel have been injured since this latest round of ‘lawn mowing’ began, CFS?

          I believe the # on the Palestinian side is now something like 6000 injured, 60 shot.

          • On May 19, 2018 at 11:09 pm,
            CFS says:

            I would be the first to agree that Israeli soldiers are better armed and hold better ground than Palestinian terrorist idiots.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 10:16 am,
            CFS says:

            GH,
            Even Hamas admits that 63 out of 62 killed last week were Hamas member or Islamic Jihad members.
            You think this is just ordinary civilians killed without any provocation…..you are simply ignorant of the actual facts.
            I’m sorry, but US media distorts the truth by omission of film of provocations.

            Face it, the IDF is mostly composed of younger adults, well armed with accurate rifles, with permission to fire single shots if they feel the border may be penetrated or if they (soldiers) feel threatened.
            You seriously think they won’t fire if they see Molotov cocktails being thrown or rocks being slingshot at them. If I saw the velocity of those rocks coming in from slings, I would certainly open fire. (Especially, if I knew the opposition was limited in its capability to fire rounds back. Sorry but that’s human nature, I believe.)
            The one-sided excessive kill and wound rate, in my opinion, reflects the stupidity of the Palestinians; not the aggressive intent of most Israeli defense forces.
            Have you ever being involved in war, GH, or armed conflicts in which your life is at risk?
            There is a desire, resulting from fear/own life preservation, to fire first, rather than be killed yourself……That is simply human nature.
            Even if you are well-trained and told to limit your live fire, that is just the way it is.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 10:17 am,
            CFS says:

            oops, I meant 53 out of 62.

            My mis-type

    • On May 19, 2018 at 9:14 am,
      Big Al says:

      GH, I thought that Jim’s comment was a little strange but, remember rather than being critical I listen.

    • On May 19, 2018 at 10:37 am,
      Ebolan says:

      To be truthful, GH, ‘ve tuned it out. I’ve listened to hours of MckKinney interviews so I know his point of view and I can hear very similar ones on the MSM.

    • On May 19, 2018 at 10:05 pm,
      Big Al says:

      Thanks GH, I am not surprised in the least bit by the results of this survey.

      I suppose that one could construe that we are just talking past each other. I look at it this way, I give my viewpoint and simply listen to them.

      I am close to being ready to totally leave this topic, for a number of reasons.

      First of all, I have never been to Israel so I really have no business discussing this subjct;
      Secondly; most of the people who I rely on for information of either Jews or reporters. One will be grossly influenced by his/her heritage and the other usually by his/her employer;
      Thirdly; I have found that this is an emotional issue which no person seems to look at objectively.

      Are the Israelis actions over the top in some instances? You bet they are. Now, my opinion is based on simple logic and living as best as I can by the “Good Book”

      Unfortunately, I have never witnessed, in person, the events leading up to what appear to be atrocities.

      That is being completely honest which is not something that every person opining on this

  6. On May 19, 2018 at 8:21 am,
    GH says:

    As for Zionist influence in the US, one can float limitless facts past people, but if they refuse to challenge the facts while continuing to hold views in contradiction of said facts…where does intellectual honesty and the integrity of debate fit in?

    • On May 19, 2018 at 8:49 am,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      Good Point…….

    • On May 19, 2018 at 12:52 pm,
      Big Al says:

      It doesn’t seem to fit in GH.

  7. On May 19, 2018 at 8:37 am,
    GH says:

    Another fact, confirmed by Jewish scripture as well as the statements of many rabbis from centuries ago to present day, is that Jewish Supremacism is fundamental to their religious outlook.

    Al wonders why the Palestinians would do something so stupid as what they are doing, to go get shot.

    Can you not recognize desperation, Al? Do you think desperation like that can be faked? Or based on making a mountain out of a mole hill?

    You and Jim act as if Hamas is somehow driving the protestors to do what they are doing. I’m wondering if you two would have condemned Ghandi’s tactics as well.

    You might not believe that Jewish rabbis are serious when they tell us about Jewish superiority to all gentiles, but Palestinians have little reason to doubt it. When your oppressor says that your soul is closer in nature to that of an animal than it is to that of a Jew, what hope do you have that in time they will come around to reason and negotiate a just deal?

    I would guess that Palestinians are risking life and limb to appeal to the conscience of the world, because they know they have no hope with the large majority of Israelis.

    Thank God for Jews of high moral integrity, like Max Blumenthal and Dan Cohen:

    On May 15, 2018 at 10:05 am,
    GH says:

    Killing Gaza
    informationclearinghouse.info/49417.htm

    Starting Tuesday, May 15, “Killing Gaza” can be seen at Vimeo On Demand:

    https://vimeo.com/ondemand/killinggaza

    “Cohen and Blumenthal, who is the author of the book “Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel,” one of the best accounts of modern Israel, began filming the documentary Aug. 15, 2014. Palestinian militias, armed with little more than light weapons, had just faced Israeli tanks, artillery, fighter jets, infantry units and missiles in a 51-day Israeli assault that left 2,314 Palestinians dead and 17,125 injured. Some 500,000 Palestinians were displaced and about 100,000 homes were destroyed or damaged. The 2014 assault, perhaps better described as a massacre, was one of eight massacres that Israel has carried out since 2004 against the 2 million Palestinians in Gaza, over half of whom are children. Israel, which refers to these periodic military assaults as “mowing the lawn,” seeks to make existence in Gaza so difficult that mere survival consumes most of the average Palestinian’s time, resources and energy.”

    ” “For 51 days, Israel bombarded Gaza with the full might of its artillery,” Blumenthal says. “According to the Israeli military’s estimates, 23,410 artillery shells and 2.9 million bullets were fired into Gaza during the war.”

    That’s one and a half bullets for every man, woman and child in the Gaza Strip.”

    “Israel intentionally targeted power plants, schools, medical clinics, apartment complexes, whole villages. Robert Piper, the United Nations Coordinator for Humanitarian Aid and Development Activities, said in 2017 that Gaza had “a long time ago” passed the “unlivability threshold.” Youth unemployment is at 60 percent. Suicide is epidemic. Traditional social structures and mores are fracturing, with divorce rising from 2 percent to 40 percent and girls and women increasingly being prostituted, something once seen only rarely in Gaza. Seventy percent of the 2 million Gazans survive on humanitarian aid packages of sugar, rice, milk and cooking oil. The U.N. estimates that 97 percent of Gaza’s water is contaminated. Israel’s destruction of Gaza’s sewage treatment plant means raw sewage is pumped into the sea, contaminating the beach, one of the very few respites for a trapped population. The Israelis did not even spare Gaza’s little zoo, slaughtering some 45 animals in the 2014 assault.”

    • On May 19, 2018 at 1:44 pm,
      CFS says:

      KIs it true that Israel intentionally targeted power plants, schools, medical clinics, etc?

      Or is it true that Hezbollah fires its rockets from schools, civilian areas, etc, so that it can claim that Israel targets schools civilians, etc.

      I can only say, from personal experience and observation, that if no rockets are fired into Israel, then Israel does not tend to fire back.
      I do not speak the Jewish language, so do not watch Israeli TV.
      I usually only watch english language AL Jazeera and listen to BBC radio, or use the internet to gain information.

      • On May 20, 2018 at 3:18 pm,
        Robert Moriarty says:

        CFS:

        It must be very hard to get your talking points from the Mossad if you don’t speak the language. Is your handler English speaking?

        Anyone with a moral compass who can both read and understand English has more than sufficient opportunity to figure out who is the victim.

        The score for last Tuesday was 64 dead, 1500 wounded for one side, no wounded or killed for the other. Now just which is the victim and which is the oppressor?

    • On May 19, 2018 at 2:32 pm,
      GH says:

      Wow. Regarding the above-described 2014 attack on Gaza:

      “Only 6% of the entire Jewish public sees the IDF as having used too much firepower during the operation. The rest of those with an opinion on the matter are almost evenly split between 48% who regard the use of firepower as appropriate and 45% who think the IDF made too little use of it.”

      https://lobelog.com/israeli-democracy-evaporates-while-gaza-burns/

      CFS – The above article provides a narrative that offers a sharp contrast to your comment. The author:

      Mitchell Plitnick is former vice president of the Foundation for Middle East Peace. He is the former director of the US Office of B’Tselem: The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories, and was previously the director of education and policy for Jewish Voice for Peace. He is a widely published and respected policy analyst. Born in New York City, raised an Orthodox Jew and educated in Yeshiva, Mitchell grew up in an extremist environment that passionately supported the radical Israeli settler movement. His writing has appeared in the Jordan Times, Israel Insider, UN Observer, Middle East Report, Global Dialogue, San Francisco Chronicle, Die Blaetter Fuer Deutsche Und Internationale Politik, Outlook, and in a regular column for a time in Tikkun Magazine. He has been interviewed by various outlets including PBS News Hour, the O’Reilly Factor and CNBC Asia. Plitnick graduated with honors from UC Berkeley in Middle Eastern Studies and wrote his thesis on Israeli and Jewish historiography and earned his Masters Degree from the University of Maryland, College Park’s School of Public Policy.

      GH — Jews like Blumenthal and Cohen, Plitnick and Pappe are the ones who could lead their people to a positive future. But the bankster’s mass media minions will never give them the megaphone.

      • On May 19, 2018 at 2:35 pm,
        GH says:

        Plitnick on the 2014 conflict:

        “The escalation to this conflict was caused by Israel’s attempt to shatter the Palestinian unity government. The war probably went further than Netanyahu — who is not adventurous by nature and tends to be more reluctant about engaging in large-scale military actions than most of his predecessors — really wanted. But this war did not start because Hamas increased its rocket fire. Nor did it begin with the goal of eradicating infiltration tunnels.”

      • On May 19, 2018 at 2:42 pm,
        GH says:

        Oh, and by the way CFS, yes, Rupert Murdoch is Jewish.

        http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/05/Murdoch2.html

      • On May 19, 2018 at 3:17 pm,
        GH says:

        Another hopeful one on Israel, and young Jews who could lead in a new, positive direction.

        https://www.jonathan-cook.net/2017-06-26/young-jews-us-turn-tide-israel/

      • On May 19, 2018 at 6:25 pm,
        CFS says:

        I’m not an expert in Israeli-Palestine conflict. I am simply an observer, who has visited many countries over a long period of time. I don’t particularly like or trust Jews or Arabs with whom I have done business.
        I realize people in this forum believe me to be anti-arab and pro-jew, but I simply observe and comment on what I see and have seen, after getting as much input as possible.
        I see the actual facts distorted by opinion all the time by both sides.

        I understand why the “Palestinians” are pissed at Israelis.
        But I also understand what the Israelis feel they have to do to keep a homeland.

        When I see comments which I believe to be incorrect, via omission of actual facts, I simply make a comment to include the omitted facts.

        • On May 19, 2018 at 9:23 pm,
          CFS says:

          Even Hamas admits that 53 of the 62 killed at the Gaza border this week were either members of Hamas or Islamic Jihad.

          https://www.theepochtimes.com/53-terrorists-ided-among-62-people-killed-on-gaza-border_2526839.html

          It seems to me that indicates the Israeli soldiers are NOT randomly killing civilian Palestinians.
          What I don’t understand is how the TRUE facts are simply suppressed by CNN, C-Span and most of the US media. Or for that matter, Why does the media mostly choose to lie by omission.

          • On May 19, 2018 at 10:22 pm,
            Big Al says:

            That is what it does and a person must realize it.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 3:19 pm,
            Robert Moriarty says:

            CFS:

            Can you spell “DISINFORMATION?”

  8. On May 19, 2018 at 9:05 am,
    Ebolan says:

    Chris was right on when he said this country is run by criminals.

    And the Imperial Senate overwhelmingly defeated this:

    https://www.paul.senate.gov/news/dr-rand-paul-introduces-%E2%80%98penny-plan-balanced-budget%E2%80%99

    Ask yourself, if the Republoclowns can’t pass a plan to very gradually balance the budget (over a decade) when it has the House, Senate and Imperial Presidency and at a time when the gooberment is taking in record tax receipts when will it ever balance the budget? And mind you, we of course are not talking about paying down a penny of the debt!

    • On May 19, 2018 at 9:22 am,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      What was his first clue………. 🙂

      • On May 19, 2018 at 9:24 am,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        I am not a crook………by Nixon…….should have been his first clue…… 🙂

        • On May 19, 2018 at 9:29 am,
          Ebolan says:

          They are all crooks…the gooberment has no intention of paying down a penny of the debt.

          • On May 19, 2018 at 5:01 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            You are 100% correct…..EBO………..it is not in their game plan.

  9. On May 19, 2018 at 10:01 am,
    b says:

    I dont think its run by criminals.

    I think the country is run by Zionists.

    Zionist decisions go thru the Jews,Talmudic Jews to be precise.

    Enough christians choose to serve, so the Talmudics can make up the laws as they go along.
    (is talmudics a word that wont get antisemitic shouted at it?)

    Thats not criminal, its the same thing as King Henry, whatever he decided was the law, he couldnt break the law.

    The thing that confuses people is how the country operates, it cant be run with a person sitting on a throne, people wouldnt accept that, they prefer stages or process as in a decision going thru an american institution that is full of people with dual citizenships.
    american/Israeli.

    After that filter process the decisions are acceptable, but not before.

    Alot of people find this constitution confusing as well, as in it exists.

    Things would go much smoother if people simply accepted their subservience.

    People might object to blatantly pointing out our subservience, but look at Netenyahoos speech in congress, just how many standing ovations did he get?

    Those are the people chosen to lead the nation showing just how subservient we are and if anyone disagrees?

    Please point to me a church or athletic or scientific or any organization that objected.
    Did anyone even hold a sign outside?

    We are more than happy to have our leaders show how servile we are and to whom.

    Honestly, I wonder about the sumerian records and the dna work sometimes.
    Goyim ment to serve could be true.

    • On May 19, 2018 at 10:31 am,
      GH says:

      I’m sure that Talmudists want gentile awareness of the Talmud to be as minimal as possible. So yes, I fully expect they will tar those who expose it as ‘anti-Semites’.

      What other religious book talks about with what age of child it is acceptable to have sex?

      Muslims and Christians, especially white Christians, are mocked, belittled, and smeared constantly in the mass media. So it certainly should be acceptable to have a fact-based conversation on the Talmud. In fact, it is essential.

      • On May 19, 2018 at 11:02 am,
        b says:

        Didnt you say that the other day? or am I having a dejavu moment?

        I agree 100%, but I think there is just too much christian support to ever bring about an honust discussion.

        • On May 19, 2018 at 11:16 am,
          GH says:

          I don’t think so…though it could be an amnesiac moment…

        • On May 19, 2018 at 12:15 pm,
          GH says:

          I did post some remarks on the Talmud last weekend in response to KfK. There were three highly worthwhile pdfs from Benjamin Freedman, Facts are Facts, parts i, ii, iii.

      • On May 19, 2018 at 5:10 pm,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        If, Christians are being smeared by MSN…….you know as a Christian you are on the right track………Evil detest righteousness ………

  10. On May 19, 2018 at 10:15 am,
    Kevin from Kanada says:

    There has never been an indigenous people called Palestinians. They have no native language. There has never been a country called Palestine. People need to understand this. This is not a statement that justifies killing, by either side. It just needs to be understood. Getting to the root of the issue needs to acknowledge this…..Also an understanding of Daniel Chapter 9, and Luke 21…..just sayin’.

    • On May 19, 2018 at 10:24 am,
      GH says:

      There were people in Palestine who have roots there going back many centuries. You are playing word games to obscure this reality.

      Your approach is disingenuous and not worthy of respect, KoK.

      • On May 19, 2018 at 10:25 am,
        GH says:

        oops, KfK I meant to type.

      • On May 19, 2018 at 10:44 am,
        b says:

        That might be a case of using a religious book to justify blaming the victim.

        Same thing was done during the time of american slavery.

      • On May 19, 2018 at 9:54 pm,
        Kevin from Kanada says:

        Interesting that you go back only centuries, not millennia?

        • On May 20, 2018 at 8:15 am,
          GH says:

          Kevin, I defend Christians and Christianity regularly on this website, but no one is under an obligation to recognize the Christians’ book as their own law.

          If you want to somehow use God’s will as a justification for what Israel is doing, bark up another tree. I view Christian Zionism as a perversion of the faith, doing the work of Satan by supporting Pharisaic Talmudists that pretend to be something they are not.

          I don’t recognize the validity of their 1900+ year-old claim. Much of the world has changed hands over that time frame. Terrible precedent to start dredging up ancient history as if it confers present-day land claims.

          I don’t recognize that the large majority of Jews have any historic, genetic connection to Palestine.

          And I believe that many of the Palestinians who the ‘Jews’ have displaced have deeper roots on the land than the Hebraics ever did, who only occupied it for a matter of centuries, two millenia and more ago.

          I’ve offered backing for all the above assertions multiple times before. You’ve talked about being fact-based, but only offer innuendo.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 11:07 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Luke 21:24
            “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.”

          • On May 20, 2018 at 12:32 pm,
            Kevin from Kanada says:

            Job 11:2 “Shall a multitude of words go unanswered, And a talkative man be acquitted?
            Job 11:3 “Shall your boasts silence men? And shall you scoff and none rebuke?

            GH you offer up a lot of words, but they are framed within your own, arbitrary, time frame. Seems you are selective in your “evidence”.

            What I’ve maintained in my comments have not been to justify killing, in spite of the “innuendo” you attribute to me. I’m not a Christian Zionist, as you seem to be wont to suggest. In fact, you have no clue as to my background or beliefs.

            What I am saying is that history seems to support an Israeli claim to the land, far before anything claimed by a made up(for political reasons) race of people. The suffering of the Arabic peoples in Samaria and Judea, as well as Gaza, is tragic in that their so called “Arabic brethren” are using them as political canon fodder, and self inflicted by going along with this way of life. It is well documented that they have taught generations of children to hate.

            There is no consistency in your line of thinking…except that you seem to have an axe to grind against Israel.

            Gen_12:3 And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.”

            This has not been superseded.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 2:21 pm,
            GH says:

            And I, in turn, would say the same–your selection of time frame is arbitrary.

            I called your comments innuendo because you implied things but did not speak clearly.

            ‘Seem to want to suggest’? Had I wanted to call you one, I would have. I stated, clearly, my objection to an ideology related to our exchange.

            Your ‘background or beliefs’? What is this garbage? I did not speculate about your background or beliefs. I made a series of statements about MY beliefs about the matter at hand.

            I do have an ax to grind against Israel. They are shooting Palestinians like fish in a barrel. They take $4 billion from American taxpayers every year. They have dragged us into constant war, against our own interests, for 30 years. They wield inappropriate power over the US political system through groups like AIPAC. They have committed an act of war against the US (USS Liberty) against the US, never acknowledged. They are the worst perpetrators of espionage against the US. All facts. Any American patriot should have an axe to grind against Israel.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 2:25 pm,
            Big Al says:

            GH, I want to learn more about your beliefs regarding Israel. Please suggest a book for me to read.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 2:38 pm,
            GH says:

            There is no shortage of cogent Christian commentary arguing that the ‘I will bless those who bless you’ verse is being misused by supporters of the state of Israel.

            https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/judaica/judaism-or-pharisaism/

          • On May 20, 2018 at 2:55 pm,
            GH says:

            Hmm…much of it is gleaned from thousands of articles. So, for instance, I have ten links bookmarked for articles and audio/video on the USS Liberty. Good sources lead to more good sources. So from there, one learns, say, about the Lavon affair, or what happened between Israeli Zionists and Iraqi Zionists, or the 1953 trial of Rudolf Kastner for helping Nazis ship Jews to Auschwitz in exchange for the lives of a relatively few chosen Zionists.

            I don’t know of a single book that covers so much ground…But the following two would make a very good start, imo.

            http://www.conspiracyschool.com/sites/default/files/resources/William%20Engdahl%20-%20A%20Century%20of%20War.pdf

          • On May 20, 2018 at 3:03 pm,
            GH says:

            And Gerard Menuhin’s ‘Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil’.

            https://archive.org/details/MenuhinGerardTellTheTruthAndShameTheDevilHolohoax

            I wish whoever uploaded the book had not put ‘holohoax’ in the title, as it detracts from the message. Menuhin is of Jewish background, and his intelligence and integrity show in this book.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 3:05 pm,
            GH says:

            James Perloff offers quite an education here:

            https://jamesperloff.com/

          • On May 20, 2018 at 3:23 pm,
            GH says:

            If I search my bookmarks library for the two search terms, Israel & Spy, I get the following:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1-_mpskz0A&feature=related

            newsweek.com/2014/05/16/israel-wont-stop-spying-us-249757.html

            independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-accuses-israel-of-alarming-even-terrifying-levels-of-spying-9341264.html

            theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-spy-who-loves-us/

          • On May 20, 2018 at 3:25 pm,
            Kevin from Kanada says:

            You seem to be a little touchy, there, GH. Israel hasn’t been pulling the US Gubmint into any wars they haven’t wanted to wage….going all the way back to the American-Spanish war….a little before Israel’s time. I think. But you have a better handle on time frames than I do, so please correct me if I’m wrong. You should give Richard Maybury a read.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 3:54 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Kevin……..I see where you are going, and I would have to agree with…..
            “It is relevant, “”On May 20, 2018 at 11:07 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:
            Luke 21:24
            “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.”

          • On May 20, 2018 at 3:56 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            sorry for the double post……..subject matter went in wrong spot

        • On May 20, 2018 at 9:44 am,
          OOTB Jerry says:

          “”Rightly dividing the word” …….I think both scripture passages mentioned …..Luke is directed to the Jews, and Danial is prophecy of the Jews, were given to the Jews., and not part of the dispensation period we are in presently, ……because there is neither…jew nor greek(gentile)…as quoted in the KJV.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 9:46 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            All scripture is for our edification, but , not all scripture is direct to us………

          • On May 20, 2018 at 3:19 pm,
            Kevin from Kanada says:

            Actually, OOTB, the one fits into the other. Old Testament prophets were given to see the mountain tops of prophecy, Luke 21 fits into the valley between the 69th and 70th weeks of Daniel’s prophecy….and it is COMPLETELY relevant to today’s dispensation. It explains the dominance of the Gentile Will being imposed on Israel. There is more to say on this subject, but this is neither the time, or place.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 3:55 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            n May 20, 2018 at 3:54 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:
            Kevin……..I see where you are going, and I would have to agree with…..
            “It is relevant, “”On May 20, 2018 at 11:07 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:
            Luke 21:24
            “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.”

          • On May 20, 2018 at 4:04 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Kevin……..BTW…….thanks for the reply……

          • On May 20, 2018 at 4:12 pm,
            Kevin from Kanada says:

            The nagging question I have is whether or not the current iteration of Israel fulfills the OT prophets message concerning Jehovah’s regathering of Israel to the land. When that happens, there will be righteousness and peace. Something we definitely are NOT seeing.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 4:50 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            False peace …….and the Anti Christ has to appear……
            IF, we start talking about that, then I would suggest scripture quotation..
            3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God……..2 Thessalonians 2

          • On May 20, 2018 at 4:52 pm,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            I am thinking, that this might be better to take this up at another time…..JMO

          • On May 20, 2018 at 6:36 pm,
            Kevin from Kanada says:

            No thanks required, OOTB, happy to do it. I agree, another time, another place, perhaps. Just name when and where, I’ll be there, happily.

    • On May 19, 2018 at 11:42 am,
      GH says:

      You may find this interesting, Kevin. Israeli Jew, Ilan Pappe on

      The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine:

      https://archive.org/details/TheEthnicCleansingOfPalestinePappeIlan

      • On May 19, 2018 at 7:47 pm,
        b says:

        it is GH, thx

      • On May 19, 2018 at 9:56 pm,
        Kevin from Kanada says:

        This Pappe fellow has an interesting, if not disputed and/or refuted perspective. Definitely political!

        • On May 20, 2018 at 7:38 am,
          b says:

          Ethnic cleansing, genocide, is political.

          I guess thats one way to look at it.

        • On May 20, 2018 at 8:55 am,
          the co van says:

          The author is a radical leftest and supported the Khmer Rouge for years.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 3:18 pm,
            GH says:

            Source on Khmer Rouge allegation?

    • On May 20, 2018 at 3:21 pm,
      Robert Moriarty says:

      KFK:

      And there is no country called Israel. Countries have borders. Israel has none.

      • On May 20, 2018 at 6:37 pm,
        Kevin from Kanada says:

        I don’t quite agree with this, Robert, but would welcome an opportunity to discuss it.

        • On May 20, 2018 at 9:58 pm,
          Robert Moriarty says:

          KFK:

          Don’t be absurd, you either agree or you don’t. If you are capable of drawing borders for Israel even agreed to by Israel, you are the only person in the world who can. The borders change daily depending on how much more land they steal today.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 11:09 pm,
            Kevin from Kanada says:

            Robert: I can email you a picture of me standing on the Israeli side of the Egypt/Israeli border, if you like. I even got shouted at by the guard in the tower between the gated entrance/exit points. Seems pretty much like it was a border to me.

            Oh, and should I mention that I had to present my passport going into and out of “Palestinian” controlled Bethlehem? Seemed like a border of sorts there, too.

            Just sayin’.

          • On May 21, 2018 at 8:48 am,
            Robert Moriarty says:

            KFK:

            Another view on the “border”

            https://lobelog.com/the-myth-of-the-gaza-border/

      • On May 20, 2018 at 8:55 pm,
        CFS says:

        I would like to see you try to walk across the “no border” from Gaza into Israel.

  11. On May 19, 2018 at 10:20 am,
    GH says:

    Is there a more important issue than immigration in the US? I doubt it.

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/slipping-backwards-on-immigration-get-on-it-mr-president/

    Does Trump really care? Or is he just throwing a bone to his voters, while he continues to serve the CMIC, Zionists, and Wall Street?

  12. On May 19, 2018 at 10:56 am,
    Markedtofuture says:

    play this clip with the audio on.

    If you think of the word “Brainstorm” you will hear Brainstorm.
    If you think of the words “Green Needle” you will hear Green Needle.

    We are officially in the matrix and I have no idea what is going on

    Click below link….

    https://twitter.com/LiquidHbox/status/997176012113838080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F

    • On May 19, 2018 at 11:23 am,
      GH says:

      Extremely cool.

      The audio equivalent of one of those drawings that can be seen in multiple ways. I’ve never come across this before.

      This one concerns me more:

      https://www.wired.com/2008/07/the-microwave-s/

    • On May 19, 2018 at 2:26 pm,
      Ebolan says:

      Dang, I heard KE Report and Big Al Korelin.

  13. On May 19, 2018 at 12:37 pm,
    the co van says:

    What’s the matter with those crazy Jews? They should have opened the gates and allowed all those peaceful Palestinians into Israel. Especially Hezbella. Then they could have had a picnic and sang peace hymns then everyone could have gotten along forever. Never mind the arabs are pledged to kill all the Jews, teach all that in their school curriculums to indoctrinate their children. If the Jews would just model their country on the neighboring Arab countries, then we would have peace. I’m wondering how many adults are on this site. churchill said,”Islam is the greatest retrograde force in the history of the world.” WIthout a strong army, the Jews would all be dead.” I take the Arabs at their word. That’s what the Arabs say they want to do.

    • On May 20, 2018 at 3:25 pm,
      Robert Moriarty says:

      TCV:

      You might want to do a little more work in your research. Hamas controls Gaza, not Hezbella (SP)

      And when the Zionists scream “Death to the Arabs” what exactly are they saying? Or when government officials comment they have more than enough bullets for all of Gaza, what are they suggesting?

      The Zionists have never ever been the victims.

  14. On May 19, 2018 at 2:26 pm,
    Ebolan says:
  15. On May 19, 2018 at 3:43 pm,
    jhpace1 says:

    So many of these comments are with “in their lifetime” only views. They need to realize this Israel-other conflict is thousands, not decades, of years old.

    Israel has never “assimilated” or “conformed”. This is the reason revolts against Babylon, Greece/Turkey, and Babylon have always resulted in genocide against Israelis. God chose them for their stubbornness, calling them “stiff-necked”. Well, they are stiff-necked now, but not always in good ways.

    After the Roman Dispora in 1948 Israel became a nation again, but determining who is and is not a Jew by their family history is difficult. And like every other nation on Earth, you will always have those non-spiritual people who seek power by any means necessary. So Israel’s leaders can be non-spiritual. The other Arab nations of the world, those who count themselves as Ishmael’s children and Esau’s children and not Israel have the propaganda-through-generations hatred towards Israel in any form, and that continues today. Add the false cult of Islam on top and you have the modern-day visceral reactions.

    Jesus Christ is going to have to come back in power, because that is the only thing the world understands today!

    The “Palestinians” are multi-generational Jordanian and Egyptian squatters, not Jews. Is Israel being too harsh on them with quarantine? No other nation will take these squatters – they are too politically expedient where they are as “natives”. Palestinians also help out other Islamic, anti-Israel forces with smuggling of weapons and attrition attacks. They call the 70-year anniversary of Israel ‘Nakba’ day as an insult.

    Not to say the rulers of Israel are free of mistakes and overtures. Militant feminism has ruined their country, just as it has ruined the court system of America, England, Europe, etc. Messianic Jews are discriminated against, as well as any rabbi who speaks out against any of the government’s actions.

    But Israel is not “going away”. You can argue the rulers of Israel are not real Jews but come from non-Jew populations and just call themselves Jews, you can say “Zionism” means the covert rule and depopulation control of the rest of the world, you can say Luciferianism is behind Israel’s successes – it doesn’t matter. Israel is not going to dissolve itself and be remade as “real” Israel, at least not until Jesus Christ comes back. We all in the world have to live with Israel just like every other nation in the world, and dance with their leadership just like any other human rulers.

    One fact is for certain – God chose Israel a long time ago to be an example to the rest of the world, and He is keeping His eyes and hand on it.

    • On May 19, 2018 at 9:34 pm,
      CFS says:

      jhpace1, I guess I did not realize Israel has existed for more than 70 years!

      I do find it most interesting that, your God, in his munificence, chose for Israel, not a highly productive land and climate, but a land of rocks and desert, lacking in water for the most part.

    • On May 20, 2018 at 10:34 am,
      GH says:

      I agree jhpace1, Israel is not ‘going away’.

      That doesn’t mean we have to deal with them on their terms.

    • On May 20, 2018 at 3:27 pm,
      Robert Moriarty says:

      jhpace1:

      I’m not a student of the bible like many here but I can’t seem to find that quote in the bible about “Blessed be the Warmongers.” Can you help me?

      • On May 20, 2018 at 5:50 pm,
        jhpace1 says:

        Oh, I dunno, start with 2 Kings 13:10-18 (Elisha and the three arrows), then go to Zechariah 12:1-9 (Jerusalem saved through violence against their enemies), then read Revelation 2:26-27 with Zechariah 14:16-19 and Psalms 2:1-12 (ruling with an iron scepter), and The Battle-hymn of the Republic (Isaiah 63:1-6), a Christian song sung in churches in America for the past century.

        And Jesus Christ is called “The Prince of Peace”.

  16. On May 19, 2018 at 8:13 pm,
    Chartster says:

    The brown shirts were right back in the 1940s, just like Hamas is right today, right?
    ..yeah, right..)

    Some people never learn..

  17. On May 19, 2018 at 8:35 pm,
    b says:

    Jews As God’s ‘Chosen People’ Is A Myth

    https://youtu.be/Cxz_pFpkNkg

    Brother Nathanael

    • On May 19, 2018 at 10:31 pm,
      Big Al says:

      I don’t pay a lot of attention to Brother Nathanael. I believe that he is more o a comedian.

      Regarding the term “chosen people”, as a practicing Christian I believe that any person who acknowledges Jesus is a chosen person.

      • On May 20, 2018 at 3:29 pm,
        Robert Moriarty says:

        Al:

        There are times you astound me. The Zionists do not acknowledge Jesus. Actually there are many video clips including Sarah Silverstein saying she would kill him again. But for certain they believe they are chosen and you are not. Actually you and I qualify as donkey or dogs to be used as slaves.

        • On May 20, 2018 at 5:30 pm,
          b says:

          Bob, they do acknowledge Jesus, they think he is being boiled for eternity in human excrement.
          Ah yes, and his mother was a whore.

          Horrible Blasphemy of Jesus, Gittin 57a . Says Jesus ( see footnote #4) is being boiled in “hot excrement.”

          Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus’ mother was a whore: “She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters.” Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b it is stated that in the “uncensored” text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, “Miriam the hairdresser,” had sex with many men.

          Thats one of the points that flabbergasts me so much, how the heck can christians actually want to serve people that believe that?

          • On May 20, 2018 at 5:47 pm,
            b says:

            Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.

            Sanhedrin 54b . A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

            Sanhedrin 55b .A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years “and a day” old).

            Yebamoth 59b . A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest.
            A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

            How can these people be considered sane?
            Maybe having sex with a demon is a benefit for a rabbis wife?

            I used to think moslems were nuts with their reward of virgins never being touched by a man or genie.

        • On May 20, 2018 at 5:53 pm,
          jhpace1 says:

          Remember, Jesus taught against the Babylonian Talmud that the Pharisees had added onto the Torah and the prophets. Jesus never quoted the Talmud as the Scripture He fulfilled, but only the original books.

          • On May 21, 2018 at 10:52 am,
            b says:

            Your right jhpace

            So why do christians support the jewish talmud worshippers?

            Why do they send their children to die for them?

            Knowing that all thats required for evil to win, is for good people to sit back and do nothing, why do christians not say a word in opposition to them?

    • On May 20, 2018 at 6:25 am,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      Rightly dividing the word, …will keep everyone out of this verbal conflict…….

      • On May 20, 2018 at 11:08 am,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        Luke 21:24
        “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.”

  18. On May 19, 2018 at 8:38 pm,
    b says:

    He makes a neat comment about being told in the 1950s of the thousands dying in labor camps.
    And somehow the number reached millions.

    Course the 6 number came from the undisputed number used at the Nuremberg trials.
    Guess it took awhile to catch on.

    • On May 19, 2018 at 9:55 pm,
      b says:

      The Myth Of The Chosen People
      https://youtu.be/SLPH4YslYD8
      Brother Nathanael

      Both vids are about 4 mins.

    • On May 19, 2018 at 10:29 pm,
      Big Al says:

      b, where specifically did the six million number originate?

      • On May 19, 2018 at 11:20 pm,
        CFS says:

        I believe there were about 9 million jews living in Europe in 1939 and about 3 million in 1945.

        Between 5 and 6 million died in the five years of WWII.
        https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10008193

        Not all killed by Axis powers.

        • On May 20, 2018 at 3:41 pm,
          Robert Moriarty says:

          CFS;

          You cannot come up with any documentation showing those numbers. According to the 1938 Jewish World book there were about 13 million Jews in the world and in 1946 there were about 12.5 million. There are no numbers anywhere that add up to 6 million and certainly the Jewish World Book numbers should be valid.

      • On May 20, 2018 at 6:27 am,
        b says:

        History & Scriptural Origin of the Six Million Number
        By John “Birdman” Bryant

        Birdman Bryant: History & Origin of the Six Million Number
        http://www.thebirdman.org/…/Jews-History&ScripturalOriginOfThe6MillionNumber.html

        I posted this before, the 6 number was last used at the Nuremberg trials, it was not disputed and stuck.

        The “comedian” brother Nathaneal in the 2nd vid I posted, talks about, as a child of Jewish parents, recalls the discussion of, thousands dying in labor camps.
        That was in the 1950s.

        The 1945 number of 6 million was the third time it was used, I believe 1902 was the first time and then 1909? I think.
        I would have to read it again.

        It surprises me you feel B Nathanael is a comedian, he figures as, what I thought, most christians do, a “salvation thru christ” etc.

        Not that it really matters Al, but if you actually have an interest in Israel, topics like the 6 million #, their history etc I would think you would read a few things.
        Other than the bible, for example (as this is a show of economics and investing)
        the only thing the bible has is a reference to money changers, usery.

        It far from has the story of banking positioning itself and its influence on our world.

        • On May 20, 2018 at 8:26 am,
          GH says:

          The first time or three I came across Bro Nat, I also discounted him because of his on-screen persona and presentation.

          But his words, while chosen to entertain as well as inform, are far from frivolous or vapid. He deals with dead serious topics, and tells truth like few dare to do.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 8:39 am,
            b says:

            Thats why I like him.

            I dont really “follow” him, but on occasion he talks about something Im interested in for one reason or another.

      • On May 20, 2018 at 6:27 am,
        OOTB Jerry says:

        The number does not matter,,,,,,,,,only that it happened……..

        • On May 20, 2018 at 6:37 am,
          b says:

          Jews got killed.
          ok, why would they have more meaning than the rest of the 50-80 million people killed?

          Check the vids I posted, the Jews are not any more “special” than anyone else.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 8:36 am,
            GH says:

            Ten instances of newspapers talking about 6 million with regard to Jews, 1915-1938

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtAnuXl5VZY

            Everyone acts as if to question that we have the whole truth and nothing but the truth regarding the killing of Jews in WW2 is tantamount to firing the ovens back up.

            What a crock of crap.

            Jews will become subject to the same scrutiny and standards as the rest of humanity. Having looked substantially into their history, I can understand why this has them messing their drawers, because they have a LOT to answer for.

            Why are Jews still trying to shame the entire world for the ‘Holocaust’ and still initiating new reparations processes 70+ years later, but covering up the 20th century genocides for which Jews were the intellectual authors–the Bolshevik genocide and the Armenian genocide?

          • On May 20, 2018 at 8:46 am,
            b says:

            lol, how about the one they’re doin now?

          • On May 20, 2018 at 9:33 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            The bottom line,……….is the Shadow govt, CIA,……needs to make money…..via these conflicts…….this is a simple way to keep people confused on an issue….

          • On May 20, 2018 at 10:29 am,
            GH says:

            Good point, b.

            Like I say, a LOT to answer for.

      • On May 20, 2018 at 6:31 am,
        b says:

        Jewish prophecies in the Torah require that 6 million Jews must “vanish” before the state of Israel can be formed.

        Regarding the ‘six million’ number you should know the following: In the Hebrew text of the Torah prophesies, one can read “you shall return”. In the text the letter “V” or “VAU” is absent, as Hebrew does not have any numbers; the letter V stands for the number 6. Ben Weintraub, a religious scientist, learned from rabbis that the meaning of the missing letter means the number is ‘6 million’. The prophesy then reads: You will return, but with 6 million less

        On page 482 of the article on ‘Antisemitism’ in the the 10th Edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica (1902) is found the words: “While there are in Russia and Rumania six millions of Jews who are being systematically degraded…”

        In the American Hebrew Magazine of October 31, 1919, there appeared an article entitled “The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop!” By Martin H Glynn, former governor of the state of New York. This article begins, “From across the sea, six million men and women call to us for help …”

    • On May 20, 2018 at 3:33 pm,
      Robert Moriarty says:

      B:

      The 6 million figure is part of Jewish tradition that holds that the Jews could not go back to Jerusalem until 6 million suffered or were murdered. The figure was used over 250 times before WW II started. It’s just pure chance that the Germans killed exactly 6 million to fulfill the tradition. Not 6,000,001 or 5,999,999 but exactly 6 million. To believe or suggest they made it up is now a crime in several countries.

      • On May 20, 2018 at 4:17 pm,
        Temple says:

        There’s no business like Shoah business, like no business I know. . .

      • On May 20, 2018 at 5:05 pm,
        b says:

        I can see the number used 250 times, it does come from “Torah prophesies” which was supposedly written about 1300 bc.

        So lottsa time to spread the word.

        How could anyone possibly doubt the #?

  19. On May 19, 2018 at 9:08 pm,
    Ebolan says:

    1 trillion dollars wasted “rebuilding” Afghanistan, yet the great nation builder McKinney wants more of your tax dollars spent there. Instead, listen to the great Ben Swann tell it like it is and remember, government is the greatest rip-off there is and shysters like McKinney will make sure that doesn’t change.

    http://truthinmedia.com/reality-check-millions-wasted-rebuilding-afghanistan/

    • On May 19, 2018 at 10:00 pm,
      Ebolan says:

      And meanwhile, the roads in this country are falling apart. Where I live we had big tax increases last year to fix the roads. Now we are told they are not enough so are sales tax must be raised. Meanwhile over a trillion dollars has been wasted in the last 17 years “re-building” Afghanistan and yet people like Trump and McKinney demand more. If that doesn’t make your blood boil I don’t know what will.

      • On May 19, 2018 at 10:20 pm,
        Big Al says:

        Eddy, our infrastructure is clearly sub par!

        • On May 19, 2018 at 10:36 pm,
          Ebolan says:

          Where I live there is no way to avoid damaging your vehicle by driving on the roads because the gooberment has let them fall apart. After big tax increases last year not a single inch of road has been repaired. Now they are demanding a sales tax increase.

          Meanwhile a trillion down the toilet for Afghanistan and our corrupt nation over 21 trillion in debt.

          Anyone who won’t call for a revolution is simply brain dead.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 9:27 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            The Shadow Govt….thur the CIA, and the Corrupt congressmen have stolen the money, real simple.

    • On May 19, 2018 at 10:24 pm,
      Big Al says:

      I may not agree with Jim always, but I would not call him a shyster.

      • On May 19, 2018 at 11:12 pm,
        Ebolan says:

        After over 17 years of this insanity, anyone who advocates spending another hard earned tax dollar in Afghanistan is a shyster in my book. McKinney and his ilk are literally taking food off my table and that’s got to stop!

        • On May 20, 2018 at 8:41 am,
          GH says:

          Yep. If he wants to go fight his crusade on his own dime, that’s his choice.

          I’m sick as hell of people like him commandeering my wallet to do things I consider utterly unethical.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 8:42 am,
            GH says:

            I’d still like to hear from McKinney how it is he figures he is defending the Constitution by violating it.

          • On May 20, 2018 at 9:21 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            Ditto GH………

          • On May 20, 2018 at 9:24 am,
            OOTB Jerry says:

            McKinney needs to listen to the X CIA , Shipp and get a revelation …….as to what he does not know, but, thinks he does…….Or maybe , he is part of the paid for secret govt….that is paid under the table………just saying.

    • On May 20, 2018 at 9:20 am,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      McKinney needs a lesson on his covert govt……….

  20. On May 20, 2018 at 10:40 am,
    Chartster says:

    Although the MIC has been controlled by foreign entities for over 100 years, that paradigm is changing. There are many many military men and women fighting hard to take back control of Amercan sovereignty. I believe Jim McKinney is one of those good men.

    I hope he will explain what has taken place in the unseen war that has been going on, once the military tribunals start and the arrests of the corrupt starts.
    I know this for sure: McKinney know a helluva lot more than he says, and a helluva lot more than most of us non-military folks. After all, he was giving Admiral Rogers intelligence briefings.

    I hope Jim McKinney continues to comment here.

    • On May 20, 2018 at 11:11 am,
      OOTB Jerry says:

      That is a good point……..I will take that into consideration………..

    • On May 20, 2018 at 11:43 am,
      Ebolan says:

      So McKinney is playing 4D chess, too?

  21. On May 20, 2018 at 11:54 am,
    Chartster says:

    No, you just don’t know which end is up. That’s all.

    • On May 20, 2018 at 1:05 pm,
      Ebolan says:

      So this country just continues to dump tens of billions down the crapper there every year with no end in site while the roads and every thing else in this country goes to Hell and this country drowns in debt.

      Yeah, I don’t know which end is up and you and McKinney are brilliant. That 4D chess is just over my head.

    • On May 20, 2018 at 1:10 pm,
      Ebolan says:

      You really are disgusting. Yeah, the war is a disaster when the Demonrats were running things but now it’s OK because it’s Trump and he’s playing 4D chess. What an idiot you are.

      • On May 20, 2018 at 9:19 pm,
        Chartster says:

        You can’t get past your jaded ideoligy, can you? If you can’t see that Trump is bringing world peace, you should unplug from the moronic pundits and take a fresh look at things. Start with knowing the last 70 years of history.
        Good Luck!

    • On May 20, 2018 at 1:17 pm,
      Ebolan says:
  22. On May 20, 2018 at 11:56 am,
    GH says:

    I believe Jim McKinney believes he is fighting the good fight.

    And no doubt he is privy to lots of info most of us aren’t.

    But then, so was Colin Powell.

    I was not convinced we needed to go into Afghanistan 17 years ago, nor have I been convinced by any of the string of wars since then. What benefit have we gained? What evils have we prevented? The costs have been vast, in lives and America’s debt debacle. Not to mention the police state and cultural decline at home that accompanies imperial overreach.

    When I hear Jim talk, I don’t really hear anything that promises to change the disastrous course we’re on. I hear canards, like Israel being a beacon of freedom and democracy.

    • On May 20, 2018 at 1:08 pm,
      Ebolan says:

      It’s simple,GH. It’s all a scam, GH. McKinney has been a part of the MIC one way or another all his adult life. He’s just another scammer. Anyone who buys his bullshit and thinks we need to spend tens of billions of dollars there every year and shed more American blood there is a brain dead sheeple.

  23. On May 21, 2018 at 1:35 am,
    Markedtofuture says:

    Did Obama Use the FBI the Same as Nixon Used His Own People to Spy on Opposition?

    While Robert Mueller was not in charge of the FBI after 2013, the new revelations that the FBI was spying on members in the Trump Campaign are very alarming. This is revealing just how deep the FBI has been trying to overthrow Trump. The integrity of the entire Justice Department is really called into question. Where Nixon’s staff went into Watergate, Nixon never directed them but got caught up in trying to cover up the event. Here we have the FBI doing what the Watergate operatives did directly. This is the ultimate abuse of power.

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/did-obama-use-the-fbi-the-same-as-nixon-used-his-own-people-to-spy-on-opposition/

  24. On May 21, 2018 at 5:53 am,
    OOTB Jerry says:

    Anybody following Q,…..Corsi is a plant……..so they say………interesting info out yesterday.