KER Politics – Fri 20 Jul, 2018

Will Israel simply let Egypt take Gaza back?

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Comments:
  1. On July 20, 2018 at 6:39 pm,
    CFS says:

    Mr Amernick is correct.
    Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations that want “Trans-Jordan and Israel land for a Palestinian state and NO Israel in existence.
    They will never accept less as long as they and their descendants live.

    Israel has a dilemma. Israel wants peace within defendable, secure borders.

    If they allow Egypt to take and rule the Gaza strip, there is a high probability that rockets will be smuggled in and fired at Israel again. This is a problem. OK, so the rockets are pretty cheap and pathetic tools for killing people, but they are a real pain for Israeli citizens. They are fired every couple of hours at night, occasionally cause significant damage and occasionally kill people, but they also stop a large number of people from getting a good night’s sleep. That cannot be allowed to occur indefinitely.

    So what choice does Israel have?

    There is no good choice. Israel would like two independent states: one Palestinian and one Israeli, but Hamas leaders will not agree to Israel’s existence in the Middle East, no matter what land they are allowed to live on. We have now had three generations of hatred indoctrinated into the “Palestinians”; passage of time has not and will not help.

    If Israel controls the Gaza strip they will be forever politically condemned by half the world. If Israel allows Palestinian rule or, I suspect, even Egyptian rule, then Israel will have to suffer rocket and other terrorist attacks.

    The original UN plan was for the Palestinian state to be what is now Jordan, but the Government of Jordan back in the late forties did not want militant Palestinians, and the militant Palestinians vowed never to accept the state of Israel.
    It is a stand-off with no simple solution.

    • On July 21, 2018 at 6:57 am,
      Robert Moriarty says:

      CFS:

      That is an utter distortion of reality. Israel has been stealing land for 70 years from the Arabs and is the sole barrier to peace. I know you don’t care about international law or the Geneva Convention but under international law and occupied people have an absolute right to resist.

      At the time of Israel unilaterally declaring independence, the Arabs owned and controlled the most land in Palestine. Israel will get peace when Israel learns that the course they are on can only end in their demise eventually.

    • On July 21, 2018 at 10:42 am,
      Big Al says:

      Thank you Professor, I agree completely.

  2. On July 20, 2018 at 7:44 pm,
    b says:

    Israel wants peace?

    Isnt that kinda like sayin the mic wants peace?
    or the Zionists want peace? how about the bankers want peace?

    I think the more accurate way to say it might be the Israelis want lulls to consolidate gains prior to further expanding.

    Gazas population exploded as the Israelis were committing genocide of the Arabs and thats where they ran to.

    It was under Egyptian rule until Israel expanded in 1967.

    Tell me cfs, would you simply roll over and say “well, ok, lets have peace” to the people that murdered your entire family? Or how about if they just shot your kids in the groin?

    The Jews sure dont seem like the forgiving kind.
    Why should the Arabs be?

    Genocide seems to be the way of the world.
    Nobody really gives a darn unless its happening to them.

    Only thing I can do about it is boycott Israel entirely.
    Expose their Talmudic ways on occasion.

    • On July 21, 2018 at 10:46 am,
      Big Al says:

      And you are certainly free to do just that, b!

      Thank God for the exchange of opinions among our family.

      You are all wonderful people and each and every one of us is certainly entitled to our personal opinions.

  3. On July 20, 2018 at 8:33 pm,
    b says:

    https://youtu.be/go7Y2DFaSDk

    Trumps not part of the deep state.
    https://youtu.be/go7Y2DFaSDk
    Get your papers people.

    • On July 21, 2018 at 10:49 am,
      Big Al says:

      It actually makes a bit of sense just like other forms of id made sense depending on the situation.

  4. On July 20, 2018 at 8:35 pm,
    b says:

    https://youtu.be/go7Y2DFaSDk

    Everyone has got to have their papers.
    Ya gotta luv national socialism.

    • On July 21, 2018 at 10:49 am,
      Big Al says:

      b,

      Do you have a voter registration card?

  5. On July 20, 2018 at 8:42 pm,
    Matthew says:

    Dr. Michael Scheuer: It’s All Coming Unraveled
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO9y-wmetLc

  6. On July 20, 2018 at 8:51 pm,
    CFS says:

    I realize Mr. Moriarty will disagree with my summation of the situation with his fear-mongering assertion of the Yinon Plan etc., but Zionists are not in control of Israel. They were voted out of power by democratic elections long ago. Their mouthpiece newspaper that printed the “Yinon Plan” has even ceased to exist, having died before half of Israelis currently living in Israel were born or migrated there.
    I know I haven’t spoken to lots of Israelis, and I don’t speak Hebrew or worship their God, but I have asked questions on my several visits to the country and looked citizens in the eyes while they talked with me. I firmly believe my summation above expresses the thoughts of the majority accurately. I believe the majority of Israelis could and would peacefully co-exist with a Palestinian state on their border. (Without wanting to grab more land.)

    Alas, I am equally convinced Palestinian leadership will not live side by side with Israel in peace. I say leadership, not Palestinian people simply because I have not been able to speak with a lot of ordinary Palestinians, and have to rely on published statements.

    • On July 20, 2018 at 9:30 pm,
      Matthew says:

      Zionists are not in control of Israel? CFS, you’re either too naive for words or testing material for a stand-up routine.

    • On July 21, 2018 at 7:02 am,
      Robert Moriarty says:

      CFS:

      And of course when the same plan was repeated in the “Clean Break” and the Project for a New Israeli (American) Century we should just ignore them putting in writing 36 years ago the plan they have been executing ever since because we are too stupid to both read and understand what we are reading. Right?

      So when international law calls for a return to the 1967 borders and Hamas agrees they could live with that we should just pretend they didn’t really mean it.

      People with 400 nukes have defensible borders anywhere they want. Israel has proven that.

    • On July 21, 2018 at 10:51 am,
      Big Al says:

      Another great comment from you, CFS!

  7. On July 20, 2018 at 8:57 pm,
    Matthew says:

    Rand Paul vs intellectual midget Wolf Blitzer…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAleWwkyXBA

  8. On July 20, 2018 at 9:12 pm,
    CFS says:

    As a person who cares about education, and informing people, permit me to summarize the most recent pole, taken in 2009 of Jewish Israeli Adults. (Israrli Burueau of Stistics)

    Question: How do Israeli Jewish Adults see themselves?
    Response:

    42% Secular
    25% Not very religious
    13% religious Jewish
    12% Orthodox Jewish
    8% ultra orthodox Jewish

    Clearly, Zionist wishes are a minority.

    • On July 20, 2018 at 9:19 pm,
      CFS says:

      According to the most recent Pew Pole, Jews make up 2.2% of the American population.

      Of American Jews:
      Jews make up 2.2 percent of the American population, a percentage that has held steady for the past two decades. The survey estimates there are 5.3 million Jewish adults as well as 1.3 million children being raised at least partly Jewish.

      The survey uses a wide definition of who is a Jew, a much-debated topic. The researchers included the 22 percent of Jews who describe themselves as having “no religion,” but who identify as Jewish because they have a Jewish parent or were raised Jewish, and feel Jewish by culture or ethnicity.

      However, the percentage of “Jews of no religion” has grown with each successive generation, peaking with the millennials (those born after 1980), of whom 32 percent say they have no religion.

    • On July 20, 2018 at 10:26 pm,
      GH says:
    • On July 21, 2018 at 7:04 am,
      Robert Moriarty says:

      CFS:

      You are now in Never-Never land. Zionism isn’t anything to do with religion and in fact there are far more Christian Zionists than Jewish Zionists.

      The people who founded Zionism were atheists.

      • On July 21, 2018 at 10:54 am,
        Big Al says:

        Bob,

        You have been in never never land for a long time and it has certainly made you a lot of money.

        • On July 22, 2018 at 1:06 am,
          Robert Moriarty says:

          Al:

          And how does my taking a stand on issues ever make me a lot of money? You should try it.

          You seriously believe that not taking a stand is a stand. It’s not.

          What Israel intends to do to Palestine and the world is in writing and cannot be debated on the basis of opinion.

          Do you seriously believe there are more Jewish Zionists than Christian Zionists?

          You have lost it. Utterly lost it.

    • On July 21, 2018 at 10:53 am,
      Big Al says:

      CFS,

      You are confusing the issue by utilizing facts!

  9. On July 20, 2018 at 9:53 pm,
    Matthew says:

    We must’ve entered the Twilight Zone, Piers Morgan is right about something…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNFOVkB6JjQ

  10. On July 21, 2018 at 5:32 am,
    BDC says:

    Most Jews of Israel, and their supporters around the world, particularly those running the USA, promote and enact the “Oded Yinon Plan”, which calls for the creation of “Eretz Yisroel” (Greater Israel, from the Euphrates to the Nile). This requires ‘Balkanization’ of the Levant – happening now – followed by its complete Jewish hegemonic takeover.

    These people are the most persistent sentient parasites in Nature. Their boundless patience and planning is finally being revealed widely because our internet bypasses their control of main stream media. They are now attempting to reign this in via “hate speech” laws etc.

    Another project of theirs is the retaking of ancient haunts in the Ukraine and southern Russia, as most of them are ancestors of the Khazarians that once ruled there. Ultimately, world domination is (((their))) goal.

  11. On July 21, 2018 at 7:07 am,
    Robert Moriarty says:

    BDC:

    You are thinking way too small. They don’t want to control Greater Israel, they want to control the world. As their Rabbis remind us on a regular basis Goyem exist to serve Jews. We are to be their slaves.

    • On July 21, 2018 at 7:56 am,
      BDC says:

      Yes (note my last sentence above). Some folks speculate ‘something’ (real) which subsumes Jew, Vatican, WASP and fellow traveler power blocks.

      Maybe Larouche is right, and the Queen asking permission to enter ‘The City’ is just a ruse. They tell of divergence in ‘white’ and ‘black’ nobility, e.g. of Guelph and Ghibillene factions.

  12. On July 21, 2018 at 11:07 am,
    Robert Moriarty says:

    BDC:

    Sorry I missed that and you are perfectly correct and called it right.

    It’s very funny to me that they say exactly what they intend to do and the useful idiots pretend they either didn’t say it or they didn’t mean it.

    They mean it.