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Round Table With Chris Temple and Doc

Cory
August 6, 2018

In a special editorial today I am joined by Chris Temple and Doc. We touch on a number of topics all outlining the relationship the US has with other countries around the world. The Iran sanctions and China/US relationship are addressed with the big picture of a changing political environment.

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93 Comments
    CFS
    Aug 06, 2018 06:31 AM

    Europe may well break up, primarily because Germany (Mainly West Germans) are beginning to realize that they are substantially subsidizing the rest of the EU; just as the British people have realized this. The problem is the over-paid entrenched bureaucracy is much in control and do not want to lose their gravy-train.

      Aug 06, 2018 06:49 PM

      Don’t worry, the word on the street is Greece, Italy, Romania, and Luxembourg are about to step up soon and do their part to help out Germany and France share the load…..

      Strike that, I just woke up from a nap it was just a silly dream….. Just like the EU.

    Aug 06, 2018 06:57 AM

    Chris’ comment that he’s happy to see the rebellion against the old, wealthy establishment world wide. I agree it is refreshing, although tumultuous and things could spiral out of anyone’s control……………….
    The main cause IMO is the terrible wealth disparity, not just in this country but around the world. That is going to change, one way or another. The few can’t have it all anymore!!!!

    Aug 06, 2018 06:15 AM

    Doc give us an update on gold?? No bounce and market is weak, we could be headed well under 1200 to 1280 or lower please your thoughts??

      Aug 06, 2018 06:32 PM

      Paul, 1200 is a strong support area and if that doesn’t hold then look at the possibility of 1140. Based on the weekly charts, it appears we’ll have a good part of August as a trial before we get a bounce. That doesn’t mean it goes straight down here but that we slowly bottom. The monthly chart would suggest that as well. I might add that I’m starting to add to my bullion positions for the first time in months. I hope that helps.

        Aug 06, 2018 06:27 PM

        $GCV18 – October Gold (Last:1211.70)
        August 6, 2018 – By Rick Ackerman

        “Shifting to the October contract yields a compelling downside target at 1197.70 that can replace a projected range of 1192.70-1201.10 given here earlier for the August futures. As always, I’ll recommend bottom-fishing this Hidden Pivot support aggressively only to subscribers who have made money being short on the way down. A rebound in the meantime to p=1235.00 would set up an enticing if belated ‘mechanical’ short, but we’d want to execute it via a ‘camouflage’ set-up to significantly reduce the initial, theoretical risk of nearly $1200 per contract.”

        https://www.rickackerman.com/?stock=530

          Aug 06, 2018 06:29 PM

          Gold’s Big Day, but Only in Iran
          Monday, August 6 – By Rick Ackerman

          “With renewed U.S. economic sanctions against Iran slated to take effect on Tuesday, Iranians were panicking to exchange rials for gold. The buying frenzy had no discernible effect on the dollar price of gold, which sold off moderately in U.S. markets. You’d have to be an old-timer to recall a day when gold’s price could be pushed one way or the other by geopolitical events. Nowadays, even financial mayhem in some troubled corner of the world appears to have no impact whatsoever on bullion. Has ‘flight to safety’ come to mean shifting one’s cash into Amazon shares? Sometimes it seems that way. Whereas T-Bonds and T-Notes have their ups and downs, AMZN charges relentlessly higher on most days, providing investors with the kind of returns that have made safety an afterthought. Interesting times, for sure, and not just a little bit wacky.”

          https://www.rickackerman.com/?stock=530

      CFS
      Aug 06, 2018 06:15 PM

      Left-wing garbage……they decide first a conclusion and then choose some facts to reach it. Chamberlain had no backbone; he was a socialist-leaning peacenick (even though he belonged to the conservative party), the last person to start trade wars. Besides Chamberlain was only Prime minister starting May 1937, long AFTER the depression had started.

        Aug 06, 2018 06:21 PM

        Trump is nothing like Chamberlain and Putin is no Hitler either.

        Aug 07, 2018 07:00 AM

        Peacenicks are sane, warmongers are not.

        What part of the bible said, “Blessed be the warmongers?”

        GH
        Aug 07, 2018 07:35 PM

        Lots of reasons to believe it was Jewish bankers &/or Zionists responsible for that war, as well as WW1, CFS. Deny it if you want, but if you can’t even consider the evidence in favor of that hypothesis your opinion is worth zilch.

        You might consider Menuhin’s “Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil”:

        https://archive.org/details/GerardMenuhinTellTheTruthAndShameTheDevil

        ‘It’s what you don’t know you don’t know that will get you,’ don’t you say? That’s certainly a relevant maxim for understanding the aforementioned Mafia’s Mass Media Ministry of Propaganda.

    Aug 06, 2018 06:40 AM

    Hi Doc, I just bought some USAS@2.54. How low do you think it will fall before the bottom is in? Thanks. Happy Canada Civic Day!

      Aug 06, 2018 06:35 PM

      BB, I’ve been watching USAS for some time hoping to take a healthy position in it. I believe we see $2.25 at which point I’ll probably begin purchasing. Ask me when it hits that area and I’ll tell you what I think then.

        Aug 06, 2018 06:41 PM

        Thanks, Doc. Will do. I wouldn’t mind that much if USAS does drop to 2.25 so I can double down as I think it could go to 50 when gold goes to 100 .

    b
    Aug 06, 2018 06:45 AM

    According to my historical charts, bounces came in july went to a low in aug then it was up and away until Dec/jan.
    No bounce in July this time and historically we move up from about the beginning of aug, well, were here.

    Aug 06, 2018 06:50 PM

    Interesting…….& please read the comments below the link.
    https://www.rt.com/news/435237-saudi-threaten-canada-terrorism/

      Aug 06, 2018 06:51 PM

      BTW. Has anybody heard from Jerry ?

        Aug 06, 2018 06:07 PM

        Mr. Big Al Korelin went looking for him but then unfortunately he fell ill. These are tough times at KER.

        Aug 06, 2018 06:50 PM

        HELLO EVERYONE………………..I AM BACK>>>>>>>>>>>>>
        Sorry to alarm anyone for my missing in action the last 6 weeks…….
        Been on VACATION……..from every thing………………..

        Aug 06, 2018 06:52 PM

        I completely shut off the world for 6 weeks………….
        Looks like nothing has changed………..The world still sucks……….

          Aug 06, 2018 06:55 PM

          Looks like the A holes are trying to burn down California…..Hope you are safe EBO>>>>>>

            Aug 06, 2018 06:43 PM

            The air has been smokey out where I am but fortunately I am in no direct danger from the fires.

            Aug 07, 2018 07:40 AM

            Good to hear you are safe…………

          Aug 06, 2018 06:48 PM

          Where did you go and what did you do?

            Aug 07, 2018 07:40 AM

            South Florida………thanks for asking……

        Aug 06, 2018 06:56 PM

        Tony ……………..thanks for the thoughts………..and you too EBO

          Aug 06, 2018 06:40 PM

          We thought something terrible had happened. Or at least I had as I can’t recall you going AWOL like that and plus me being a pessimist I tend to expect the worst.

            Aug 07, 2018 07:42 AM

            The only thing terrible ……was the price of silver and gold being jacked around by the screw ball bankers….

    Aug 06, 2018 06:20 PM

    Is it April the 1st ? or is someone taking the P..S out of us peace loving people.
    This murdering piece of “SCUM” just gets his second peace prize , instead of being hung by the neck.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-06/obama-gets-new-peace-prize-despite-hundreds-civilian-casualties-drone-strikes

      Aug 06, 2018 06:38 PM

      Interesting passage on that link above:

      “Obama was criticized harshly for pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq and creating a vacuum that was filled by ISIS. He has also been harshly condemned for his embrace of drone warfare. According to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, Obama killed nearly 1,000 civilians in more than 500 drone strikes during his presidency.”

      “There were ten times more air strikes in the covert war on terror during President Barack Obama’s presidency than under his predecessor, George W. Bush,” the Bureau report states. “Obama embraced the US drone programme, overseeing more strikes in his first year than Bush carried out during his entire presidency. A total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama’s two terms, compared to 57 strikes under Bush. Between 384 and 807 civilians were killed in those countries, according to reports logged by the Bureau.”

        Aug 06, 2018 06:40 PM

        The other peace prize he got before he had even done anything at all. At least that was more peaceful, than the sum total of actions looking back on his administration’s legacy.

      GH
      Aug 07, 2018 07:29 AM

      As bad as Trump’s separating illegal immigrant families from their children is, has he killed any of them yet?

      How many children did Obama and Hillary kill? Tens of thousands? Hundred of thousands?

      So why is the progressive [sic] community exponentially more outraged at Trump?

      Ask your libtard acquaintances, and enjoy the reaction.

    Aug 06, 2018 06:27 PM

    Hi Doc,
    Does that mean bull market in gold is over? Where do you think gold will be in next 2 years? Do you think gold will be range bound in coming years?

      Aug 06, 2018 06:03 PM

      Cali, I do not think the bull market is over—-I believe we’ve entered an extended period of consolidation for gold. Hard to say in 2 years but I will place odds that we will have taken out 1400 by then.

        Aug 06, 2018 06:03 PM

        I’ll be a blue nosed gopher if gold is not 1500 in 2 years!

    b
    Aug 06, 2018 06:37 PM

    @1300 people were pretty much certain we had bottomed and it was a bull for sure, now there’s talk of 1100s.

    Augs the historical low, we shall c if it still is.

    Long way to go for the miners to hit those juicy lows that once were tho.

    b
    Aug 06, 2018 06:42 PM

    Rick’s Pick for Tuesday

    Short-Term Outlook For Gold Still Glum
    Published Monday, August 6, 6:30 p.m. EDT
    Shifting to the October contract yields a compelling downside target at 1197.70 that can replace a projected range of 1192.70-1201.10 given here earlier for the August futures. As always, I’ll recommend bottom-fishing this Hidden Pivot support aggressively only to subscribers who have made money being short on the way down. A rebound in the meantime to p=1235.00 would set up an enticing if belated ‘mechanical’ short, but we’d want to execute it via a ‘camouflage’ set-up to significantly reduce the initial, theoretical risk of nearly $1200 per contract

    Sounds like Rick is thinking the same way spanky was.

      Aug 06, 2018 06:52 PM

      No Rick is using a specific methodology, logic, and math to arrive at his targets rationally. There is no end of the world, “circling the toilet” “going down for years and years” “heading to 0” nonsense like spanky’s daily alarmist rants.

      Let’s not put the two in the same sentence….

        Aug 06, 2018 06:29 PM

        Using the same coordinates for the Dec. contract.. the target = $1202.90 // p = $1240.55. Thanks Excel for all your post on pms..much appreciated!

          Aug 06, 2018 06:00 PM

          Thanks mj12. Always glad to share ideas. Cheers!

            Aug 06, 2018 06:11 PM

            Ira Epstein’s Metals #Video (8/2/2018)

            Technical Analysis, Gold, Silver, Copper, Platinum

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gVLdmM3BP8

            Aug 06, 2018 06:12 PM

            Rick Rule Talks Investment Opportunities: Good Value and Bad Ideas
            Stockhouse Editorial – 4 days ago

            “I think the industry prefers dumb money. So, the generalist investors are busy trying to lose money in blockchain and pot (because) they’ve been tired of losing money in mining for a while. That’ll change…It’s useful to note that over the last 12 months on the TSX and on the ASX, among the companies we (Sprott) follow, 60% of the equity cap contributions to the companies have been by major mining companies. So what you’re seeing is the return of the smart money and the exit of the dumb money.”

            http://www.stockhouse.com/news/newswire/2018/08/01/rick-rule-talks-investment-opportunities-good-value-and-bad-ideas

            Aug 06, 2018 06:12 PM

            Is A Monster Gold Rally Just Around The Corner? Cramer’s Charts Show Bottoms Are In

            Anna Golubova – Tuesday July 31, 2018

            “This chart shows you that the big-money speculators are pretty darned negative,” Cramer said. “And I think perhaps too negative on the yellow metal, which could be tinder for a big rally.”

            “Logically, the yellow metal should be doing much better than its current $1,231 an ounce level.”

            “The price of gold still hasn’t really reacted to the current trade war, or the exploding budget deficit — which a lot of you care about tremendously, of course — or even the recent uptick in inflation,” he continued. “With inflation on the rise and the government borrowing insanely high, you’d expect precious metals to become more popular on the Wall Street fashion show.”

            This is why Cramer describes this time as “the single best time of year to bet on gold.”

            http://www.kitco.com/news/2018-07-31/Is-A-Monster-Gold-Rally-Just-Around-The-Corner-Cramer-s-Charts-Show-Bottoms-Are-In.html#.W2MTGH055b0.facebook

        b
        Aug 06, 2018 06:37 PM

        ur mistaken ex, spanky never said gold to zero, nothing even close.

        it was actually similar to what Rick is sayin, spanky talked about shorting gold no?
        that jumps up in price were a good opportunity to lighten up.

        But he never spoke of gold to zero, maybe sarcastically, I missed it if he did.
        but over all, if we dont get some up movin he will have sounded prophetic.

        He did say to wake him when silver hits 18, so I would say he did figure PMs were headed up, not yet tho.

        We will see, aug is the month up begins, supposedly.

          Aug 06, 2018 06:53 PM

          b – It was far more dramatic than that. Here are just a few snipet of the daily onslaught from him, and it was far from prophetic:

          > On February 27, 2018 at 9:17 am,
          spanky says:

          “Silver is about to break down on the weekly and months charts. It will definitely be taking out the 2016 low by late March. The bloodbath begins today.”

          “Silver miners are headed back to new multi year lows too.”

          • On February 27, 2018 at 9:26 am,
          Matthew says:

          “Silver will take out 13.73 by late March?”

          • On February 27, 2018 at 9:27 am,
          spanky says:

          “Yes.”

          > On February 27, 2018 at 9:48 am,
          spanky says:

          “Silver is done. The monthly charts are wrecked. It will be basing out for another 10 years.”

          > On July 11, 2018 at 9:17 am,
          spanky says:

          “The implications for commodities is frankly dire.”

          “Say bye bye to the whole commodity complex. Conversely, the US stock market should rocket. Input costs going to 50 year lows folks!”

          • On October 26, 2017 at 6:57 pm,
          spanky says:

          “No. Extreme pessimism is good. When you are ready to jump off a building, I will know we are close to a bottom.”

          – The prophet spanky

            Aug 06, 2018 06:57 PM

            As for seasonality, there are no 2 years that are identical, but there are clear seasonal trends that simply make probabilistic setups for a rally or drop.

            To your point July to early August are a bottoming period, and mid August and September are typically quite bullish months for the PMs.

            > Here is the Gold 40 year Seasonality Chart from (1976-2015)

            [a long period to smooth out noise, so it is data and not just supposedly….]

            http://www.321gold.com/charts/seasonal_gold.html

            Aug 06, 2018 06:59 PM

            > Now look at 2017 and you’ll see a very similar pattern that played out with the rally out of Dec 2016 Tax Loss selling into the #Q1RUN in Jan/Feb, then the #PDACCurse in March weakness, then #SummerDoldrums with a low coming in late July, and then August into September rally. That is pretty clear #Seasonality.

            http://schrts.co/Ssv9Ds

            Aug 06, 2018 06:15 PM

            > 2018 – Same pattern of rally out of Dec 2017 tax loss post FOMC rate hike, into the #Q1Run in Jan/Feb, followed by PDAC/March weakness, and then we saw big time “Sell in May and go away” into low in July #SummerDoldrums….

            http://schrts.co/VRpXwK

            Now, it is admittedly pretty bleak in the market here in early August, and there is nothing bullish on the charts for Gold or the miners that we can look to over the last few months, and key support levels broke, as did the pattern of higher lows.

            So it’s rough and fugly, but again, to your point, August and September are typically more bullish for the metals, and a good short squeeze could be the ticket to cause that to happen. It will start when bears cash out their chips and start covering.

            People have been going on and on about the low sentiment readings, oversold chart indicators, and moving averages sloping down with momentum for weeks and weeks now. This is all true, but the market trend has been down, so these things go on longer than most expect.

            Again, there is no doubt it has been a bearish summer, but if there is a period which follows that is seasonally strong (like mid Aug through September), then it seems like we are entering the window in a week or two for a 6 week stronger period in the metals, where there are good odds for a tradable rally.

            Will the relief finally come? It may be a rather muted rally this year, due to the extreme bearishness, but I’m prepared to start adding to about a dozen positions in mining producers, developers, and explorers once we see a capitulation move down in metals over the next week or two. I’d expect a bounce out of that dive, where shorts finally start to cover and the rally upward begins to build some momentum. How much juice will it have? That will likely depend in some part to the global currency wars of the dollar, euro, yen, yuan, etc…..

            Until then, tread with caution….. then snap up the stocks like a crocodile…..

            b
            Aug 06, 2018 06:35 PM

            I think PMs have to turn up and stay up for awhile before we can say spanky is wrong.

            Im positioned for a rally, I hope we get one, the boredom is deafening.

            Aug 07, 2018 07:46 AM

            I agree things are boring, but b, seriously, spanky was convinced Silver was breaking to new lows below $13.73 in March of this year which was far from correct. In fact, despite the weaker year, it never broke the 2016 lows. Honestly, I can’t remember any of the targets he had working out, the black candle obsession he has isn’t based on anything sound as they are almost neutral, and his constant Ichimoku cloud business is as cloudy as his comments. He was dead wrong on Alexco and First Majestic and Endeavour over and over again, which would have been fine if he wasn’t so cocky about how sure of his calls he was.

            I also seriously doubt Silver will be basing for 10 more years…. but if that happens we’ll all tip our hat to spanky. Seriously though, there was very little value to the vast majority of his rants, his extreme language, over-the-top statements, and he chided us when we went in long last December and many Silver stocks like IPT, EXK, AG, or Gold stocks like TGZ, SGI, KNT, etc… surged for 6 months during his bearish moping. Hardly any of his posts had any tradable value or insights and were divorced from the reality of what was going on, no matter how many times we showed him definitively that was not what was happening, so gimme a break already about spanky being anything close to accurate or “right.”

            In contrast, we played the rallies, called in advance the Dec rally into Jan/Feb, the March weakness, April rally, and stated on here over an over again since the beginning of the year that there would be seasonal summer weakness from the sell in May and go away through a low in late July to early August. Now we’ve arrived and that is exactly what has played out. We’ll see how it goes, but as I mentioned above and have a number of times recently, mid Aug and into the month of September is a seasonally strong period of time for the metals, so if we are going to get relief from the bearish trend, I’d look to position on a big sell down even over the next week or two, and then ride the short-covering rally back up for a swing trade.

    Aug 06, 2018 06:09 PM

    Sole supplier puts #Cobalt (and EV) market at risk: IEA
    Valentina Ruiz Leotaud (08/06/18) #EVs #mbgtrends

    “The International Energy Agency released a report today where it states that having the Democratic Republic of #Congo as the supplier of almost 60 per cent of the global production of cobalt is a risky business.”

    “According to the IEA, the cobalt demand for EVs is expected to be over 25 times larger a decade from now if the world’s most developed economies comply with a promise they made last year at the Eighth Clean Energy Ministerial…”

    http://www.mining.com/sole-supplier-puts-cobalt-ev-market-risk-iea/

    Aug 07, 2018 07:24 AM

    Ex– any comments on latest from MXSG? News sounds good but like many others shares are cheap

      Aug 07, 2018 07:50 AM

      I actually wrote to them yesterday for some clarity, because the market needs some direction on Santa Elena. Glad to see them put out the news upate:

      (MXSG) Mexus provides plan for Santa Elena

      @nasdaq on August 6, 2018

      “The report written by Cesar gives a clear outline as to our plans for this property. A 43-101 report with a proven resource will give us a bankable reserve moving forward. We are speaking to multiple parties who have shown interest in helping with a drill program,” added Mexus CEO Paul Thompson.

      https://ceo.ca/@nasdaq/mexus-provides-plan-for-santa-elena

        Aug 07, 2018 07:51 AM

        Here is the full report they are referencing for Santa Elena (MXSG)

        http://mexusgoldus.com/wp-content/uploads/august-6th-2018-santa-elena.pdf

          Aug 07, 2018 07:55 AM

          “A preliminary core drilling program is planned this time with a Resource Estimate
          purpose of the major shear zone areas that resulted from the geologic mapping
          interpretation.”

          “The purpose of this report is to encourage an aggressive exploration stage that will
          be a short term positive valuation of the resources in the area and eventually a
          production stage in a no longer than a year time frame because of the outcropping structures.”

          “Vein production from select areas underground could be a simultaneous operation with small tonnage-and bonanza gold values.”

          Aug 07, 2018 07:04 AM

          Hi Ex – What do you know about the Atlin Gold Camp in BC that Brixton announced purchasing this morning?

            Aug 07, 2018 07:18 PM

            There are a few other companies exploring there, and some prior producing mines in past metals cycles. I’m more animated by their Hog Heaven property, although its tough to get permitted in Montana. Thorn in BC (golden triangle area) was Brixton’s Flagship just a few years ago, but they didn’t have the grade to make it an economic deposit. Then they moved on to Langis Silver and Cobalt, and hit some great grades but now they are spinning that project out into a new Co.

            Aug 07, 2018 07:22 PM

            Really, I’d like to see them focus on one project and make it the clear flagship, and quit jumping around so much. Now, if they decided to JV Atlin to another company , while they focus on Hog Heaven, and increasing the resources at Thorn, then that would be ideal.

            Aug 08, 2018 08:11 AM

            Thanks for the info Ex. I only have a small position at this point to more or less keep track of what they are doing. I think I will just keep watching for a while with this one.

    Tom
    Aug 07, 2018 07:21 AM

    long JAZZ

    b
    Aug 07, 2018 07:09 AM

    “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies,” Jefferson wrote. ” If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around(these banks) will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”

    Does anyone know of any evidence that Jefferson actually said this?

    If anyone knows its this place.

      GH
      Aug 07, 2018 07:41 PM

      I looked into it once, I think, but have forgotten what I found out, lol. Unfortunate that people take such liberties with quotations, and that others then run with them. Maybe blockchain could be used to create a verified quote database so we can stop wasting so much time trying to verify such things…

    Aug 07, 2018 07:36 PM

    b……..the second quote does not seem to go with Jefferson……
    Sounds like the second quote was more fitting to be made by someone else more recently, I think I remember reading where Jefferson was in favor of the banks.
    That was a very good question………JMHO

    b
    Aug 07, 2018 07:27 PM

    Well, I posted the quote on another blog….MY MISTAKE…as it turns out.
    I looked into since then and found nutin.
    So, I used salt with the crow.

    Good idea GH, I sure never thought of that application, I wonder how many are out there waiting to be recognized.

    Thx for responding guys.

    b
    Aug 07, 2018 07:28 PM

    O, good 2 have ya back Jerry.

      Aug 07, 2018 07:21 PM

      Thanks b………