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Hour 2 Politics

Cory
August 18, 2018

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  • Segment 5: Jeff Ferry Research Director of The Coalition for a Prosperous America provides a comprehensive lesson on international trade and the legitimate role of the United States.
  • Segment 6: We continue our lesson on tariffs given by CPA Director of Research Jeff Ferry.
  • Segment 7: Final class in international trade as it relates to our country from Jeff Ferry.
  • Segment 8: Big Al wraps up KER Politics with a summation of our purpose.

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54 Comments
    CFS
    Aug 18, 2018 18:30 AM

    Thanks, Big Al.

    Off Topic, but of information to all:

    A privacy group said in a letter sent to the Federal Trade Commission on Friday that Google has violated the terms of a 2011 settlement because of practices exposed in an Associated Press report this week.

    The Electronic Privacy Information Center said in the letter to the FTC that Google’s recording of time-stamped location data — even after users have turned off a setting called Location History — “clearly violates” the 2011 settlement.
    The center lobbied the FTC to take action on Google nearly a decade ago. That helped lead to the settlement in which Google agreed to a 20-year monitoring regime and vowed to not misrepresent the degree to which users have control over private data.
    Three days after the AP story was published Monday, Google altered a help page explanation but didn’t change its tracking.
    The AP investigation found that even with Location History turned off, Google stores user location when, for instance, the Google Maps app is opened, or when users conduct Google searches that aren’t related to location. Automated searches of the local weather on some Android phones also store the phone’s whereabouts.
    Critics say Google’s insistence on tracking its users’ locations stems from its drive to boost advertising revenue. It can charge advertisers more if they want to narrow ad delivery to people who’ve visited certain locations.

    CFS
    Aug 18, 2018 18:39 AM

    The problem with the progressives is their decisions tend to be based on emotions, not on the use of sound logic.

    I beg to differ in regard to Bill Clinton’s economic theory and actions.
    I would posit that this was imposed on him by the Republicans and Newt Gingrich.
    After his leaving office, the MSM touted Bill’s economic success and this is the image that has prevailed.

      Aug 18, 2018 18:47 AM

      So the question is why isn’t something done to stop this?

        CFS
        Aug 18, 2018 18:44 AM

        The progressives control the media.

        How many times is it said that Bill Clinton balanced the budget?

        The data show, however, that the national debt increased every year under Clinton.

          Aug 18, 2018 18:48 AM

          CFS:

          It isn’t the progressives who control the media. Rather you should be asking “Just who owns the media?”

            GH
            Aug 18, 2018 18:01 PM

            ‘ should be asking “Just who owns the media?” ‘

            Yes, but at this point we know that is highly unlikely to happen.

            Anyone with a clue can spot the intellectual dishonesty.

            Unfortunately, his bias coincides with Al’s, so he gets away with distorting reality.

            And we’re supposed to let it go un-corrected?

            GH
            Aug 18, 2018 18:03 PM

            Serious, responsible treatment of these issues may be found at the Unz Review.

            Al and CFS could learn a mountain from Ron Unz’s ‘American Pravda’ series.

            http://www.unz.com/topic/american-pravda/

            CFS
            Aug 18, 2018 18:42 PM
            Aug 20, 2018 20:30 AM

            CFS:

            If you don’t see the point of educating rigidity, why don’t you stop embracing rigidity?

            Your points without exception suggest that you are pulling coins from your pockets that have only one side.

            If you disagree with the media, it would certainly seem reasonable to ask yourself who owns and controls the narrative presented in that media. Instead you continue to put your head in the sand content to never waste even a single moment trying to think for yourself.

      Aug 18, 2018 18:50 AM

      CFS, I am going to start a new section on the site entitle “Off top but politically relevant posts. This will start this afternoon. From now on, please post “off topic but relevant political posts in this area”. Thank you. Your posts are valuable.

      Bob M. please do the same.

        GH
        Aug 18, 2018 18:43 AM

        A good idea, Al. It’s much easier to refrain from making inflammatory comments if one is not confronted by inflammatory comments from others.

        I do agree with Bob M’s comment about self-censorship. It may be better to have it out periodically in a proscribed fashion–we came up with sandBOXes so that the whole lawn doesn’t get covered with sand. On the other hand, I hammer away at the issue that I do because it goes WAY beyond the Middle East, and connects to pretty much everything important going on. When a tiny group controls the money and the mass media, ignoring that fact means ones’ commentary will be incomplete if not irrelevant.

        ———-

        As for the two topics of last weekend’s politics segment, they were both great comments. I meant to give feedback on both, but am traveling and can only nip in to KER occasionally.

        On ‘harassment’, how much of this is an issue for everyday Joe Blows, and how much of this is about sick places like Hollywood and the Finance sector where there are men with such disproportional clout they can get away with outrageous behavior? Your guest said it is a men’s issue and we need to police ourselves. Well, my circle of acquaintances, as far as I know, don’t engage in harassment, but I don’t know that we have any more influence on those who do than I have influence on all those who think War is the Answer.

        It’s not much of a stretch to connect my initial post last weekend back to the harassment issue. It is taken as a given today that female genital mutilation is awful. But somehow it’s okay to do it to males? If we want to talk about unhealthy attitudes to sexuality, is it so far-fetched to suggest ill attitudes might begin with trauma to male infants’ sexual organ??

        Anyway, that’s not so fun. Jason made the best comment on the topic at the end of the thread, and his observations match mine (also were made in DC). I work in a predominantly female field, and spoke with white, black, asian and latina women on the topic. All of them were fine with attention from strangers, as long as it was ‘well done’ and not intimidating. But from what I heard only black and latino men in DC were making comments like that, not white. So maybe any such overture by white men, by virtue of its unprecedented nature, is ‘creepy’ and intimidating? Something seems to have poisoned the well…radical feminism? Hmm…all arrows pointing in the same direction again.

        It’s mostly baby boomers on this site as far as I can tell. I doubt they can understand what it is like for genX or millenials who grew up post-feminism. I knew a lot of highly educated men in DC who opted for foreign women over American women.

        —————–

        Medical cannabis, I’ve posted these before, but I think they’re worth posting again:

        https://thesacredplant.com/

          GH
          Aug 18, 2018 18:48 AM

          C dificile, you’re probably aware of this, and it’s kinda gross, but is said to be effective in recalcitrant cases:

          https://duckduckgo.com/?q=c+difficile+fecal+transplant&t=ffab&ia=web

          Best of luck with it.

            Aug 18, 2018 18:09 PM

            I wish my best friend from grad school at Indiana had tried a fecal transplant. 2 years ago he went to an ER with a high fever. He got C difficile there and had round after round of antibiotics for a year and a half. His weight dropped from 200 to 130 and then he died. All his idiot doctors could think of was to try another round of antibiotics. They never tried a fecal implant or an IV of vitamin C.

            GH
            Aug 19, 2018 19:13 PM

            Bonzo,

            You and I are very much on the same page where health is concerned! Keep up the good advice.

            The healing powers of the vitamin C ought to be much more widely known and applied.

          GH
          Aug 18, 2018 18:52 AM

          Final thought on harassment: toxic female behavior may be more subtle than mens’, but it is no less harmful. How many men have been converted into emotional punching bags or indentured servants with little future by the bias in the courts that favors women?

          GH
          Aug 18, 2018 18:06 PM

          correction: “As for the two topics of last weekend’s politics segment, they were both great *topics*.”

          clarification: “all arrows pointing in the same direction”–Hollywood, Finance, Feminism–what tiny group dominates all of these?

    CFS
    Aug 18, 2018 18:53 AM

    With regard to Tariffs on food, many countries impose special tariffs in order to “preserve and maintain” viable home production of food, consider a necessity.

    Technically, at the end of WWII, Britain was also “bombed to smithereens”….remember the “blitz”.

      Aug 18, 2018 18:47 AM

      CFS:

      I do hope you were not a history professor because your version doesn’t match reality. German was bombed to smithereens but not Britain. I’m married to a Brit who remembers Care packages from New Zealand until she was ten years old. But that was because the war bankrupted the UK as wars always do. But England was not heavily bombed especially after 1941. London yes, but not the rest of the country. And bombing London probably cost Hitler the war.

        b
        Aug 18, 2018 18:32 AM

        It took more mistakes than just bombing British cities to cost Germany that war.

        Following Karl Dönitz thinking of building subs instead of the bismarck and tirpitz would have caused the loss of britain.

        He almost brought britain to its knees with only about 67 subs, imagine had he got the 300 he wanted.

        London wasnt the only city bombed tho

        Coventry. © IWM (H 5603) Coventry. …
        Birmingham. © IWM (ZZZ 8126C) Birmingham. …
        Bristol. © IWM (ZZZ 8127C) Bristol. …
        Southampton. © IWM (ZZZ 8205C) …
        Sheffield. © IWM (ZZZ 6908C) …
        Liverpool. © IWM (D 5984) …
        Manchester. © IWM (H 6318) …
        Cardiff. © IWM (HU 86176)

        There really was alot of not bombing military installations once the decision was made.

        Obviously a wrong move for germany as it turned out.

    AJ
    Aug 18, 2018 18:14 AM

    We’re to the Breaking Point:’ New Tariffs Sow Seeds of Fear Across America’s Heartland
    https://www.uschamber.com/series/above-the-fold/we-re-the-breaking-point-new-tariffs-sow-seeds-of-fear-across-america

    As always there will be winners and losers

      CFS
      Aug 18, 2018 18:27 AM

      AJ, In my belief that scare-monger report is just a hit-piece against Trump.

      Factually, China increased Soybean imports prior to US tariffs on steel, which caused a run-up in bean and oil prices.
      China has now temporarily slowed soya imports, but this is only a temporary phenomenon. Despite increased production in Brazil, there is a projected upcoming shortage in Soya and prices will pick up.

      Aug 18, 2018 18:58 AM

      AJ,
      I find it to be very interesting that the issue of tariffs has gotten to be so very controversial. I say this because, to me at least, it is pretty simply.

        Aug 18, 2018 18:43 AM

        Al:

        Tariffs are barriers to trade and as such always add drag to trade. By that, they decrease the total amount of trade so end up being negative. Canada charges the US dairy industry 200% tariffs on some products. That decreases US sales but supports dairy farmers in Canada who are afraid to compete. Consumers in Canada suffer equally with producers in the US.

        Trump is a bull in a china shop where every vase is filled with nitro but now and again even a blind squirrel finds an acorn. He thinks working out a deal with someone involves the use of a baseball bat but in the dairy tariffs, he is correct and Canada has an unfair advantage.

          GH
          Aug 18, 2018 18:58 AM

          In the abstract, I agree that it is a drag to trade.

          But why should an advanced country with labor and environmental protections allow a country without such protections to undercut them? Doesn’t this spark a race to the bottom?

            GH
            Aug 18, 2018 18:01 PM

            I tend to agree with Perot’s ‘giant sucking sound’…

    Aug 18, 2018 18:15 AM

    AJ:

    Considering who owns the Washington Post, just how accurate do you think anything they say about Trump is going to be?

    I personally think the man is a buffoon and is led around by his pecker but he was elected in an election that was hardly fair. Clinton and her gang stole the election from Sanders and tried to steal it from Trump and he still won.

    We survived Bush and he qualified as the village idiot. We survived Obama and he called his “wife” Michael and was at least a socialist.

    We cannot survive outright treason.

    Aug 18, 2018 18:03 AM

    Bob, are you saying that Trump’s actions fall into the category of “treason”.

    Please elaborate on this with examples. Remember I and all of us are here to learn.

    I would also like your opinion on the new “category” I am going to add on a daily basis entitled “Off topic but relevant political posts”

    Thanks

    Aug 18, 2018 18:37 AM

    Al:

    You are kidding, right?

    The FBI, DOJ, NSA, DNI, DNC and others have been trying to overthrow the democratically elected president of the United States since the election.

    John Brennan who lied to Congress has called Trump a traitor because he invited the leader of Russia to visit the United States.

    Somebody is committing treason. Gee, I wonder who it can be?

    I couldn’t stand George Bush. We are a similar age, we grew up in Texas, graduated in 1964. He’s six weeks older. I was a fighter pilot, he was a fighter pilot. but for all the similarity there are differences. He was snorting coke in Mexico while I was dodging bullets in the DMZ in a thousand hours of combat flying.

    But he was the president. If you don’t like a president, elect some other village idiot.

    We have outright treason going on but I am not sure inviting the president of another country to visit your country qualifies.

    Aug 18, 2018 18:28 PM

    Jeff Ferry was right on point regarding economics and trade. He not only talks the talk, he walks the walk. I hope CPA gains much support. This country needs an economic education advocate. I will certainly support CPA.

    This is a good article.
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/08/18/important-michael-pillsbury-china-has-new-respect-for-u-s-trade-strategy/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    Aug 18, 2018 18:20 PM

    Americans have huge poverty issues, the slums in all their big cities mirror Calcutta India. Big Al never addresses this issue because poverty doesn’t matter to people or countries that don’t care about humans. The American state is only concerned with dictating who gets what in their society and others. It has become a totalitarian regime. DT

    Aug 18, 2018 18:30 PM

    Regarding Israel, Uncle Sugar has ‘given’ the gooberment of Israel hundreds of billions of dollars over the years and continues to ‘give’ billions every year.

    Considering Uncle is in excess of $21 trillion in the hole and considering Uncle has over 100 trillion in unfunded liabilities and considering that Israel is not exactly a poor country, I wonder if anyone here can justify this outrage.

      Aug 18, 2018 18:32 PM

      My opinion is that the Amerocon Gooberment taking money from Americans and giving it to any foreign gooberment is absurd, obscene and nothing but theft. Gooberment is the biggest rip-off there is but not one in a million realize it.

    Aug 18, 2018 18:37 PM

    DT:
    You are perfectly correct. It’s what you get at end of empire. Everyone is plundering the state while they still can. It will end shortly.

    In the last 200 years neither the UK, nor Canada, nor Australia, nor New Zealand and until the 2016 election, have a situation where there was an absolute coup d’etat on the part of government agents to subvert the election process and elected president. This has been a first and once the unelected government tries to take over, the electoral process becomes meaningless. This isn’t just some vote stealing, this is stealing the presidency.

    Aug 18, 2018 18:53 PM

    Thousands of government and non government people are committing sedition in this country. Hundreds of people have committed treason. Some day ( I hope soon ) Americans will be having a serious discussion of the death penalty for treason. Do we hang em? Do we let them live at GITMO? It’s going to happen.

    The miletary tribunals will come, and it will be swift.
    (No moron lawyers getting in the way)

    Aug 18, 2018 18:16 PM

    Charster:

    Someone is going to give Donald the NDAA to read and he’s going to go, “Hmmm.”

    Stick a few of those clowns in one of the dog cages in Gitmo for a few days and we will have a quick “Come to Jesus” moment.

    A terrorist is anyone we say is a terrorist and you can kill them without any judicial oversight.

    “Hmm.”

      GH
      Aug 18, 2018 18:08 PM

      The criminals are in plain sight, and include much of the corporate mass media, the top financial, military industrial, and pharmaceutical corporations.

      We know who they are, and we will not forget.

        GH
        Aug 18, 2018 18:09 PM

        Forgot to mention Monsatan.

    Aug 18, 2018 18:27 PM

    I say, we do public hangings for the treasonous bastards. Do an international pay-per-view. Then use the money to pay off the national debt. That way the treasonous bastards go out doing something good (for once).

    GH
    Aug 18, 2018 18:27 PM

    Stange things afoot in the US.

    End of June I walked Seattle, from north of Pike Place Market to south of the stadium. What a horror show. A veritable celebration of diversity, anti-aesthetics, and vagrancy.

    ‘Progressives’ from around the country began to flock there some 20 years ago, and it’s no longer at all what it was. It seems the west coast has been taken. I’ve seen this happen in Latin America–demographic warfare combined with international leftist money taking over a country. Not pretty.

    In my hometown in the Rocky Mountain west, which I know intimately over the past 40+years, having returned fairly regularly, change was always slight and incremental. This time, 2.5 years since my last visit, a dramatic difference is notable.

    I suspect liberal activists are being sent to tip the elections this fall. Maybe it’s just paranoia–I’ve never been involved in the nuts and bolts of politics, so I can only imagine in general detail rather than specifics. But I can’t think of any other explanation for what I am seeing.

    I hope everyone will keep an eye out for this, and will get active in turning back the libtard zombie army.

      GH
      Aug 18, 2018 18:14 PM

      Actually, I phrased that badly.

      The libs are being far from tard zombies. They’re being crafty, and they have the initiative. It’s the general populace that is zombified. Most of my friends and family don’t want to even think about politics, let alone speak about it.

      As Matthew said recently, the problem is the peon mentality–passivity, resignation and defeatism is self-fulfilling.

    CFS
    Aug 18, 2018 18:46 PM

    Wishing everyone all the best,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqlwLLGIEAg

    CFS
    Aug 19, 2018 19:48 PM
      Aug 19, 2018 19:16 PM

      Where you going?

      GH
      Aug 19, 2018 19:46 PM

      While I am in full agreement with you, CFS, about the problem of Muslim/3rd world immigration to the west, you have a problem with this concept:

      “a proximate cause is immediately responsible for causing something observed, and ultimate cause is considered the underlying or real cause.”
      https://www.reference.com/science/ultimate-proximate-causes-bbbd90fd86f789f3

      Strange blind spot for a physicist.

    Aug 19, 2018 19:18 PM

    How long before you boys get chipped? When will our rulers demand it? Or when will it be required to get a job or open a checking account?

    Aug 19, 2018 19:20 PM
      Aug 19, 2018 19:21 PM
        Aug 19, 2018 19:22 PM

        What’s Jimbo say about all this?

        Stay another 17 years and flush another $4 trillion dollars down the toilet? Where’s that money going to come from? The Empire is past broke.

      Aug 20, 2018 20:17 AM

      Ebolan:

      There are people on this site that believe terrorists are born that way. But you have wars like Afghanistan where you may as well have a factory for making terrorists yet no one can really remember how they were any threat to the US.

      I think the lesson should be, if you don’t like terrorists, don’t manufacture them.