Hour 2 – KER Politics
- Segment 1 – Jim and Big Al discuss the importance of always listening to the opinion of others with Michele Sullivan. Michele is the author of Chocolate Cake Marriage
- Segment 2 – Jim and I continue our discussion with author and well know speaker Michele Sullivan.
- Segment 3 – We discuss the events of last week in Hong Kong and potential future actions of Mainland China with Josh Phillip of The Epoch Times.
- Segment 4 – We move the discussion of China from the recent to disturbances in Hong Kong to the Chinese influence on worldwide economic issues.
Those scary cattle prods or stun prods are certainly designed to incapacitate without giving any chance of close combat !
I guess that is better than killing them!
I guess that I spoke too soon didn’t I Professor. We all make mistakes and I am certainly no exception in some of my thoughts.
“You can support our President, the President of the United States and still be a decent person”. Whoa, there! Jim, lad , that said more than I suspect you realized.
I believe that he was referring to Trump and disagreeing with many of his critics. What do you think,Professor?
I did not take it that way.
Sarcasm does not come over well without the ability to see facial expressions.
You are 100% accurate in our comment about sarcasm!
The following is why Tulsi Gabbard is naive about Middle East policy and why Trump was too hasty in bowing to pressure from the media to get out of Syria fast….
This story also ran as an op ed in The Washington Post.
It looks like the articles intention is more war.
Our mic created this isis garbage, the way to deal with it now is for the americans to get the h#ll outta the way.
They continue to support terrorists from Al-Tanf.
oops, moderate rebels.
Last thing we need is the general population hearing actual journalists reports from Vanessa Beeley, Eva Bartlett, Maram Susli or Abby Martin…to name a few.
Any chance their articles will be published in the National post?
I cannot disagree with the thoughts behind your comment, b.
CFS: Since when does the US have the right to try to overthrow the legally elected democratic leader of a country by sponsoring terrorists all on the behalf of another country?
The US paying and supplying ISIS terrorists against a sovereign nation is a bridge too far.
Anyone who believes the job of the US to fight wars for Israel is either a war criminal or a useful fool.
Syria is not the enemy of the US.
hmmm, we both posted at 9.06
I guess the choice is great minds think alike or feeble ones seldom differ.
I’ll go with the great minds one. 😉
b, I will admit that at times my thoughts can be feeble!
I know that both you and Bob have “great minds” even though I, at times, question some of your thoughts!
B:
Great minds run in the same gutter.
If you are referring to what I think you are referring, Thank you! I always believed that you have a great mind without a doubt!
I agree with your thoughts, Bob. My question is simply: “Is ISIS part of Syria”?
Al:
Your question may be the wrong question.
The terrorists in Syria, all of them, are fighting the legal and elected government on behalf and paid for by Israel and the US, Saudi Arabia and Turkey. The Neocons wrote about it in the Clean Break published in 1995. If you think about it, it’s identical to the attempt to overthrow Iran’s government. Israel and the US don’t have a better solution, they just want to destroy Syria and Iran. ISIS is the product of the incredibly stupidly run war in Iraq. If the US would obey it’s own laws in the form of the Symington Act and laws against torture and left Israel to fight their own wars, the Middle East would sort itself out in short order.
It’s all the so-called Christians and Zionists who believe “blessed be the war mongers” who are the problem. Wars solve nothing. Israel is quite happy to con the US into fighting their wars because they don’t have to donate the blood of their children and treasury, they think the US taxpayers donating their kids and money is just spiffy.
After WW II the war crimes trials concluded that wars of aggression were the ultimate war crime. I happen to agree. CFS believes that the Zionists do no wrong. Epstein is a perfect example of a religion that has turned into a cult of war criminals and murderers who know no limit to their evil. Maxwell has pretty much admitted she was the handler for Epstein for the Mossad and the CIA. He was evil and those who refuse to speak up are enablers of evil.
The Christians and Zionists who believe “blessed be the war mongers who are the problem. Regarding the Christians, I have to remind you and all our listeners and commentators that Christians are not 100% in that camp. But then again, you knew that I would say that, didn’t you?
OWL………he said…..”so called” so-called Christians and Zionists
It was Obama, not Trump that supplied arms to ISIS.
Secondly, managing a refugee camp well does not take war.
It takes money and resources and initially, military or civilian police.
I think Trump mishandled the Syrian war, which he did not start.
I do not have enough knowledge of the specifics to suggest a solution, but it is self-evident, I believe, that something different needs to be done and I do not see further war as any type of solution.
That was my criticism of Tulsi Gabbard also, withdraw at whatever cost, is not usually a solution.
e.g. the Marshall plan at the end of WWII, was a way of re-uniting/pacifying multiple nations after a time of 50 years of off and on conflict. It required thinking out of the box.
I have heard lots of criticisms about US wars causing millions of refugees and we must end invading countries; I have heard little by way of solutions, other than stop warring.
Inmy opinion just stopping war is not a complete solution.
I agree with you CFS, A further war we do not need. In this case I agree with Bob Moriarty.
cfs
You keep saying Obama supplied isis, thats true, but why do you continue to suggest Trump is not?
Its really very simple, Trump sells the weapons to Saudi and Saudi sends them along to isis, al quieda, Al-Nusra Front/Jabhat Fateh al-Sham/Hayat Tahrir al-Sham and all the other shamy whamy wing nuts.
I think its rather obvious he continues along the same path of fighting for Israel as his predecessors.
The only thing that makes sense is you believe saying it enuff will cause people to believe you.
I suppose thats true.
People seldom look for themselves.
So whats the reason? or is that it?
That is the third time you have made a similar state, b.
My answer is still the same.
As far as I know, Trump supplied to Saudi Arabia some anti-missile missiles and some fighter jets; both primarily DEFENSIVE armament.
I asked you last time, “How do you use an anti-missile missile to attack Houthis?
I admit a jet fighter can be used offensively, but it is not a very efficient method to attack ground troops.
As far as I am aware, the Saudis do not obtain small arms or any rounds of ammunition from the U.S.
CFS, here is what Google says about that: “The U.S. remains the world’s largest weapons exporter, a position it has held since the late 1990s. Our biggest customer? Saudi Arabia.
That business reality came to the forefront this week in President Donald Trump’s refusal to crack down on the kingdom whose royal rulers have been accused of murdering a Saudi-born, U.S.-based dissident journalist who disappeared after entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul.
The U.S. sold a total of $55.6 billion of weapons worldwide in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30 — up 33 percent from the previous fiscal year, and a near record. In 2017, the U.S. cleared some $18 billion in new Saudi arms deals.”
Here is a list of the weapons that America is selling the Saudis:
President Donald Trump made a really, really big deal out of his recent trip to Saudi Arabia, where he announced a $110 billion arms agreement. But the list of weapons to potentially to be sold—it’s not official until the State Department and Congress approves—was not exactly clear and lacking in details. Now we know how much money is being allocated for training, fighter jets, tankers and ships and projected delivery dates for many of these items.
Now, we have a better idea of what the White House wants to sell to the Kingdom, according to a document obtained by Defense News.
Some of the hardware includes 104,000 air-to-ground munitions at a projected cost of $4.46 billion, seven THAAD (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense) batteries worth $13.5 billion, and 180 howitzers to the tune of $1.5 billion.
The State Department has already approved sales for 26 AN/TPQ-53(V) Radar Systems, designed to pinpoint firing positions of rocket and mortar launchers, are worth $662 million. and a training program for the Royal Saudi Air Force worth $750 million. These sales are included in the $110 billion number.
Here are more of the items:
$13.5 billion for seven THAAD batteries, with an estimated delivery time of 2023-2026.
$4.46 billion for 104,000 air-to-ground munitions, divided amongst five types (GBU 31v3, GBU-10, GBU-12, GBU-31v1, GBU-38).
$6.65 billion for enhancements to Saudis’ Patriot anti-missile system, with a scope of work from 2018-2027.
$5.8 billion for three KC-130J and 20 C-130J new aircraft, along with sustainment through 2026. Those planes would start delivery in 2022.
$6.25 billion for an eight-year sustainment deal for Saudi Arabia’s fleet of F-15 fighters, with another $20 million for an F-15 C/D recapitalization program study.
$6 billion for four Lockheed Martin-built frigates, based on the company’s littoral combat ship design. That order falls under the Saudi Naval Expansion Program II (SNEP II) heading, with planned delivery in the 2025-2028 timeframe.
$18 billion for C4I System and integration, with no further details given on what that means, nor with a delivery date offered.
The most interesting items on the list are the seven THAAD batteries. You have likely heard about their deployment to South Korea, where they are positioned to defend against a missile attack from North Korea. The system is designed to intercept short, medium, and intermediate range ballistic missiles in their terminal phase. The Kingdom will certainly put THAAD to good use. Just a day before trump arrived in Riyahd, Houthi fighters launched a ballistic missile at the Saudi capital; it was successfully shot down with a Patriot.
Keep in mind that the Middle East has a history of seeing ballistic missiles fly, with pictures of Scuds littering the collective memory of many Middle Eastern wars on American television, and Tehran has been testing new ballistic missile systems, which may also concern Riyadh.
The Saudis will also get 14 MH-60R Seahawk helicopters worth $2 billion and 30 UH-60 rescue helicopters worth $1.8 billion. The MH-60Rs can deploy aboard a variety of vessels, including destroyers, fast combat support ships, aircraft carriers and cruisers. It can also be fitted with up to three Mark 50 or Mark 46 torpedoes for anti-submarine warfare.
Also listed on the document are two “Remote Sensing Satellites” estimated to cost $800 million and two satellite communications & Space Based Early Warning Systems that cost $4 billion. Space Based Early Warning Systems are used to detect incoming missiles weapons, particularly ICBMs. They can also be used for battlespace awareness, and technical intelligence missions.
Delivery dates on the items vary. The THAAD batteries, for example, won’t be shipped out until 2023. We still don’t know exactly when all of these items will be approved for sale, but the Kingdom will certain improve its military capabilities when everything is finalized.
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I agree b, that America’s relationship with Saudi Arabia is something that I don’t understand.
Just a quick google to see what Saudi has been supplied with, the Abrams tank is not on Als list.
Not exactly a defensive weapon.
Funny tho, those wonderful tanks are being shredded by the Houthis in Yeman.
Its there is cfs wants to look.US arms sold to Saudi Arabia and UAE end up in wrong hands
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/02/middleeast/yemen-lost-us-arms/
The US sold weapons to Saudi Arabia and the UAE. … the Saudi-led coalition is breaking the terms of its arms sales with the US, according to the Department of .
CFS will also find who Saudi supplies weapons to.
Not knowing is intentional.
CFS:
This quote from you is a perfect example of an overeducated fool.
“I admit a jet fighter can be used offensively, but it is not a very efficient method to attack ground troops.”
For the life of me I can’t remember seeing you in Vietnam but in the 125 missions I flew in the F-4B I can assure you with 100% confidence that you are utterly clueless every time you talk about war and weapons.
Fighter jets are remarkable weapons against ground troops. Take my word for it. Been there, done that.
Everyone knows very well that you have been there and done that. Everyone also knows that you are very smart an very competitive which are strong traits.
DING DING…….the Shadow govt…..supplied the weapons……
Understand who is the shadow govt……and it will tell you boyz the answer…..
You guys are on the WRONG TRACK……..
Fighting among the Sheeple , and side distraction is what they want….
shadow gov?
Maybe, but didnt we just recently have Trump saying there was no way he was going to end the contracts to Saudi?
Trump is working for Israel, is the deep state working for Israel too?
Maybe they are, I dunno.
Not saying that some of the info…is not correct…….
Look……all you have to decide……..is the US govt for the WE THE PEOPLE…..
or Self interest…….of our so called chosen leaders….
KISS..
Of course, most are acting the way they are acting because of their own self interest.
“Fighting among the Sheeple” has been accomplished very effectively!
Shadow Govt …….b………….is who stole the $21 Trillion….
sure is not the govt the sheeple think.
CFS:
There are times your willingness to debate the number of lawyers who can dance on the head of a pin is nothing short of remarkable. No matter who the titular head of the US is or was, the CMIC instigated a war against the legal head of Syria on behalf of Israel in 2012. Who cares who the chump is in the White House? The US started and fed the war and frankly got a lot of people killed for SFA.
And as to the stupidity of your comment about withdrawal, when you are raping someone, withdrawal is a great start.
Tulsi G knows a hundred times more about war than you do and I know a thousand times about war. You have a remarkable level of general stupidity about things you know nothing about but when you start pontificating about war, why don’t you leave talking about war to those who do know what they are talking about?
Al: Is this site turning into the CFS site?
Here is all you need to know………William Barr………..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LyxbwH9MqY
More to the story…..than Epstein…….Drugs for weapons……going way back…..
I did not listen to the entire podcast you linked above. Did this pod cast with these guys provide information for your comment? If so, i will listen to it in its entirety. Thanks
Yes,……..but, you will not get all the details…….just by listening to this one only….
see additional note below…
I assume that you mean “listen to all sides of every story” to get the complete picture!
Just listen to the Truth……., after awhile you figure out who knows what…. 🙂
Tell me what you know about these two guys and thank you.
Hello Owl…….
Came upon these fellows several months ago……while doing research.
Have been follow them daily, …..they have a 2 hr. research show daily.
Both are uncovering facts from WW2, to present connection of CIA, and shadow govt.
Not bunk, just fact…….They cover every conflict with fact, Bay of Pigs , Cuba, Viet Nam,
etc. …Covering the trail, of CIA involvement with the present administration….
How Kissinger was the start, why he was and is involved,,,,,Barr , Mueller., how they are involved,…..How Flynn is involved…..etc…..
follow…to following…..
Hi Jerry, I will definitely try and contact them.
Follow the bread crumbs……
Gerald Celente, kinda long but opinions about Trump and Epstien,deep state…….
The interviewer asks good questions.
I will listen because you linked it. Thanks
Gerald Celente is a critic, always a critic, not a problem-solver.
Most people are, because it is easy to complain and get people to agree with you.
One first must specify the problem.
Then understand its cause or cause.
And, then start suggesting possible solutions if you want to leave the world a better place than when you entered it.
Mr. Moriarty, Mr. Celente, many in this forum are content to criticize.
It is easy to criticize, but it is pretty pointless on route to making the world a better place.
As regards Mr. Celente’s proposed solution with “Blockchain democracy”, I got a good laugh. A great ideal solution, but practical, LOL.
How many homeless don’t even have electricity, let alone a computer?
Does he want to disenfranchise millions ?
How many in California can’t even read ?
Let’s start with real education in schools.
Remember there are 13 schools in Baltimore that don’t have a single student that is competent in math, do you think L.A. or San Francisco are that different?
Heck, much of the adult population is San Francisco is not even toilet-trained.
Great point, unfortunately, cfs!
Baltimore schools do not have air conditioning either……….
Why, because they stole the money……lol
Figure out who stole the money……call shadow govt., drugs for cash, cash for drugs., cash for arms….cash for players….
All schools have one plan…….keep the sheeple stupid…….Board of EDUCATION….ran by who…….
KISS
Pelosi,,,,,,,,just extended the family business to California…..think about it….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be5yKepPo1E
How the West was lost by Stefan Molyneux
Best part of the tape is……..14 min mark…….
Both do what they can to inform, what else are they supposed to do?
Hire a thousand ninjas and eliminate the entire mic,bankers etc in one night?
These people are so powerful they can kill a president in public without consequence, they can bring down towers in major cities killing thousands of people without consequence, they can drop bombs endlessly on innocent people or jail anyone they want and murder them in our highest security prisons without consequence.
Tell me, what would you have somebody actually do?
I feel that I am doing all that I can by being active on this Forum and providing informative guests.
Yes, your doing something Al.
But beyond that, what can be done?
The DOJ,FBI,CIA are all corrupt, the military is supposed to defend against domestic enemies, where are they?
The hope I have is in Tulsi, not because she knows anything about money creation, thats insignificant in comparison to getting the mic in check.
We are walking a nuclear war tightrope and the only american potential leader I see that recognizes it is Tulsi.
Putin sees it, warns the world regularly.
The second most important issue is our environment, which she wants to address.
Unfortunately, I believe people are too stupid to understand that and will nit pick about pointless issues instead of focusing on whats important.
This and the fact the media are on the side of the warmongers pretty much guarantees our wars and destruction will go on.
Good grief, we now have so much plastic in our environment it is falling like snow.
At this point, Mr.b I have to agree with you.
Be more practical.
try to point at the actual inconsistencies and at the people to blame.
The civil engineers have finally taught most people that planes dod not bring down the twin towers.
Now we need to ask “WHO GAVE THE ORDERS.”
Then we need to demand justice.
People, I believe, do have power to change things, without violence…..or even with violence as a last option, but not straight-on confrontational violence. Governments always have bigger weapons.
Thia applies also to Hong Kong.
People, en masse, have the power.
But they need knowledge and leadership. (Which is why Governments first go after dissenting leadership, to try to nip revolts in the bud.)
CFS, do you remember when I said, a few months back, that “Let’s not just complain but let’s also provide our ideas for solutions.
I think one possible solution is term limits for politicians, written into the Constitution.
So, I ask myself, “How do we get there ?
(Obviously politicians will fight tooth and nail in opposition.)
A Constitutional Convention ?
But when I bring up that possibility, despite now being only short of a few states voting in favor, I get totally shot down in this forum.
Politics discussed with a real people real world spin…
Special and thank you!
We certainly do our best, Larry. Thank you for the compliment my friend.
So what if an attempt is made to form another caliphate (which I have a doubt); I’m sure that Turkey, Syria, and Iraq could ultimately take care of the problem. We’re just looking for another excuse to stay in Syria and add to our 800 bases globally. We also are concerned about the “security” of the Persian Gulf and have asked nations globally to support that policy—guess what; only Israel and Great Britain have answered favorably; the rest of the world thumbed their noses. Just as liberty, freedom, and humanitarianism are buzzwords and excuses to act militarily, security is another buzzword to justify our never ending military adventures. If we stopped arming the middle east with an agreement with Russia to do the same these countries would think twice about warrigng against each other. As regards the “security” of the Persian Gulf, Russia is going about it the right way and has approached the U.N. to form a group of the countries surrounding the gulf and the gulf of Oman to solve the issue. Of course the U.S. really doesn’t want to solve the issue and will do all in their power to block the initiative.
I did not realize that Russia had approached the UN to help solve this problem. Thanks for the comment, Doc!
Russia has been providing solutions for years now.
Lets hope people start listening to them.
b, what I particularly enjoyed about talking with Michele was her point about listing effectively and that is why I asked her to be on the program.
Thanks Doc, I enjoyed our conversation earlier.
The doctrine of Islam IS the global caliphate..this is the forth Jihad in an almost uninterrupted series since the inception of the prophet Mohamed works of 1400 years ago….This work is being accomplished by Muslim brotherhood etc on the radical left of Islam…Those goals are unopposed by the over one billion so called moderate Muslims not involved with the violence etc….
Larry, I agree with you about the huge amount of support from “moderate Muslims”. It is kind of like, I am a moderate Catholic but when push comes to shove I pretty much believe the teachings.
Hi Jerry….Another Webb you might be interested in listing to.
Witney Webb from Chile, on the web surronding epstein.
The Jewish ? — Blackmailing ? —Pedo ? — Pimp ? & his Moll Maxwell.
This is a 1 hour, 45 minute podcast but well worth listening to , for anyone who has been following this story…..Here you go AL. put your headphones on & wrap your brain around this expose.
https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-a2j2h-bbb8b8
Please excuse the swearing at the begining , from the host its just his way.
Tony………thanks…….
George Webb…… connected the dots…….George Webb , has been talking about the
uncovering….for over two years…….you can go back to some of his old pod casts….
George, connected the dots..and has mentioned Whitney….with the same info as Whitney, not sure if they are related.
George is from Ohio….
Whitney…….does not want to open up a can of worms…….on 9/11….which is part of the whole show….
Whitney, is not even touching on the Kissinger connection….
Whitney is not talking how or why Richardson, is connected…..it is called uranium.
My preferred Webb……..would be George Webb…….at this moment …..
Get info to compare notes…………thanks again IRISH……..
Get to Great..
Funny………Whitney Webb…….is behind……..she starts in the 60’s, but has not connected the dot……just hear that on George Webb site, this morning….
hear….to heard……..
here ya go……..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LyxbwH9MqY
The Traitor Obama, Biden’s son and a Chinese connection….. PDF file
https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2019-08-14%20CEG%20to%20Treasury%20(AVIC%20CFIUS).pdf
The link does not work.
Neither of these pages would come up!
I don’t know what the problem is. However if I copy that exact line into my browser it works to produce the PDF file which is a 4 page letter.
However, the link does not connect in Keport.
Here is part of the letter:
The direct involvement of Mr. Hunter Biden and Mr. Heinz in the acquisition of
Henniges by the Chinese government creates a potential conflict of interest. Both are directly
related to high-ranking Obama administration officials. The Department of State, then under Mr.
Kerry’s leadership, is also a CFIUS member and played a direct role in the decision to approve
the Henniges transaction. The appearance of potential conflicts in this case is particularly
troubling given Mr. Biden’s and Mr. Heinz’s history of investing in and collaborating with
Chinese companies, including at least one posing significant national security concerns.
I am having some internet connectivity problems today also. Odd letters or word parts get dropped.
It’s like the internet is slower than my typing speed.
White husband, Black wife – 25% divorce rate
Asian husband, White wife – 40% divorce rate
Why don’t we study these 2 groups and see how they are doing less wrong?
Why the US is not buying China 5G, OIG report:
https://media.defense.gov/2019/Jul/30/2002164272/-1/-1/1/DODIG-2019-106.PDF
I find it incredible that Google, Facebook and Twitter would censor a site like Beyond the black, which talks mainly about space issues:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TzxPKGBChQ
usa watchdog part 1
Shipp………is way behind the curve……on BARR……..
at least he said…”.there must be something else going on”
Interesting comments…..on……….THE BLUE DRESS………and Kennedy
Not sure he got the red shoes correct…..jmo
On August 16, 2019 at 8:28 am,
OOTB Jerry says:
BEGINNING OF THE END OF the FED>>>>>>>>>>>>>>JMO>>>>>>>>>GAG ORDER>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-16/powell-issues-gag-order-fed-presidents-report
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On August 16, 2019 at 8:29 am,
OOTB Jerry says:
Joker Faces ……..have a LOT TO HIDE…………….
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On August 16, 2019 at 8:30 am,
OOTB Jerry says:
Maybe the CLUELESS SHEEPLE will WAKE UP………….
Do you still think Hillary should not be in jail ?
To whom is this comment addressed, CFS?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7364881/Chinese-security-forces-prepare-use-terrifying-giant-forks-Hong-Kong-protesters.html
These look scary !